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Its been a while since I made fun of terrible things on tumblr....

Started by Cain, October 02, 2014, 11:59:09 AM

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Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Raz Tech on October 03, 2014, 03:02:32 AM
Quote from: a somewhat wiser Joe. on October 03, 2014, 02:07:24 AM
About the waiter one.. doesn't the root homo mean 'same' not man? As in homogeneous? Homo Sapien meaning thinker that is the same?

I think it meaning "same" is a derivative from one language, while he was referring to the genus type of homo, derived from Latin.

Homo- (combination form of homos) for same is from the Greek, homo for male human is from Latin, which also implies that the alleged server got it wrong, too: homo-sexual is not man-sexual, it's same-sexual.

I'm sorry. :)
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Faust on October 03, 2014, 04:32:01 PM
It's great being able to reduce anyone you disagree with down to

https://www.tumblr.com/search/human+trash

or a huge

https://www.tumblr.com/search/shitlord/recent#

It's almost like dehumanizing someone in order to dismiss their arguments is a form of intellectual laziness.

Almost.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cain

Quote from: Faust on October 03, 2014, 04:32:01 PM
It's great being able to reduce anyone you disagree with down to

https://www.tumblr.com/search/human+trash

or a huge

https://www.tumblr.com/search/shitlord/recent#

I'm constantly amazed that people still use shitlord unironically.  I mean, I had a hard time taking it seriously when I was 8 years old and in the playground, let alone twenty years later.

Faust

Quote from: Doktor Skinsaw on October 03, 2014, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 03, 2014, 04:32:01 PM
It's great being able to reduce anyone you disagree with down to

https://www.tumblr.com/search/human+trash

or a huge

https://www.tumblr.com/search/shitlord/recent#

It's almost like dehumanizing someone in order to dismiss their arguments is a form of intellectual laziness.

Almost.
In a case by case basis it could be intellectual laziness, or frustration. Individually it's probably something that can be worked through.

On a memetic collective scale it is a wall, devoid of meaning, impenetrable and composed entirely of screaming.

It really shows how important it is that everyone does their part to establish a dialogue for change on an individual level, and how resorting to childish namecalling or dehumanisation even if just once off, fuels something larger and monstrous.
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Quote from: Raz Tech on October 03, 2014, 03:02:32 AM
Quote from: a somewhat wiser Joe. on October 03, 2014, 02:07:24 AM
About the waiter one.. doesn't the root homo mean 'same' not man? As in homogeneous? Homo Sapien meaning thinker that is the same?

I think it meaning "same" is a derivative from one language, while he was referring to the genus type of homo, derived from Latin.
I think homeo means 'same' though I can't be arsed to look it up. Homo means man though, Homo Sapiens is 'thinking man' and Homo Erectus is 'straight-up man'
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Cain

Homo means same in Greek and human in Latin.  Homosexual is derived from the Greek and homo sapiens is derived from the Latin.

Therefore the made up tumblr story of bravery isn't even factually correct, because in this context it doesn't mean human.

Dildo Argentino

Homosexual is from the Greek and Latin...

"Homosexual" is a barbarously hybrid word, and I claim no responsibility for it. It is, however, convenient, and now widely used. "Homogenic" has been suggested as a substitute. [H. Havelock Ellis, "Studies in Psychology," 1897]
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Cain

Which is why I said "derived from" and not "directly from".  Do you honestly think I'm too retarded to realise that "sex" is, in fact, a Latin word?  However, the homo- prefix, which defines the entire meaning of the word, is Greek.

I didn't actually want to have a linguistics discussion, because it's pedantic and uninteresting.  But well done.  You showed everyone just how smart you are, or something.

LMNO

Dodo, in the future, please begin those sorts of posts with "Actually..."

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Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cain on October 03, 2014, 06:55:57 PM
Which is why I said "derived from" and not "directly from".  Do you honestly think I'm too retarded to realise that "sex" is, in fact, a Latin word?  However, the homo- prefix, which defines the entire meaning of the word, is Greek.

I didn't actually want to have a linguistics discussion, because it's pedantic and uninteresting.  But well done.  You showed everyone just how smart you are, or something.

Sex is an AMERICAN word.  Like "America" itself.
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The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Cain on October 03, 2014, 06:55:57 PM

I didn't actually want to have a linguistics discussion, because it's pedantic and uninteresting.  But well done.  You showed everyone just how smart you are, or something.

Thank you sir. I learned something. I did not know it had roots in both languages.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Faust on October 03, 2014, 05:22:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Skinsaw on October 03, 2014, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 03, 2014, 04:32:01 PM
It's great being able to reduce anyone you disagree with down to

https://www.tumblr.com/search/human+trash

or a huge

https://www.tumblr.com/search/shitlord/recent#

It's almost like dehumanizing someone in order to dismiss their arguments is a form of intellectual laziness.

Almost.
In a case by case basis it could be intellectual laziness, or frustration. Individually it's probably something that can be worked through.

On a memetic collective scale it is a wall, devoid of meaning, impenetrable and composed entirely of screaming.

It really shows how important it is that everyone does their part to establish a dialogue for change on an individual level, and how resorting to childish namecalling or dehumanisation even if just once off, fuels something larger and monstrous.

Yes. I'm tired or I would write a more articulate and explanatory agreement.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 03, 2014, 07:14:55 PM
Dodo, in the future, please begin those sorts of posts with "Actually..."

:mittens:

I think it's important to remember that in Dodo, we are dealing with the actual smartest user of the board; a person who knows American English better than those for whom it is their native tongue. He may not be a trained linguist or etymologist, but his years of experience translating technical documents gives him knowledge much deeper and broader than anyone who has studied English or, certainly, merely grown up speaking it.

Therefore, we should not argue with his corrections, however condescending, but instead, bow our heads before his wisdom.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."