Aya

[Doktor Howl]

Number of scientific books and/or articles Holist has read about perception: 0. I'd put money on it.

He doesn't want to get snared by the cult, maybe?

It's dangerous knowing too much about that kind of thing. Just like meddling around with viruses.

Yeah, where they just throw random shit at it.

[Doktor Howl]

No, it's because I have no intention of communicating with you beyond insults.

Oki doke.

Bookmarking this for the next time you whimper.

[Doktor Howl]

The science cult is the demon that will kill us all.

Not the overuse of carbon resources that scientific inquiry taught us about. Just science. Itself.

In the first line, you talk about the science cult. In the second one, science. Not the same.

The science cult, you say?  Tell me more.

No.

Why not?  Are you afraid of waking up at night with your house surrounded in guys wearing lab coats?

"INTEGRATE X/e^3 dx or DIE!" they yell.

Hell's Physicists.

[Dildo Argentino]

No, it's because I have no intention of communicating with you beyond insults.

Oki doke.

Bookmarking this for the next time you whimper.

Good.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

No, it's because I have no intention of communicating with you beyond insults.

Oki doke.

Bookmarking this for the next time you whimper.

It's not like it's anything new, given that that's how he's been "communicating" with almost everyone here since day one.

[Doktor Howl]

No, it's because I have no intention of communicating with you beyond insults.

Oki doke.

Bookmarking this for the next time you whimper.

It's not like it's anything new, given that that's how he's been "communicating" with almost everyone here since day one.

I know.  It's just that he also tends to snivel about how he's treated.

I wonder why even bothers coming here.  Everyone hates him.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Number of scientific books and/or articles Holist has read about perception: 0. I'd put money on it.

He doesn't want to get snared by the cult, maybe?

It's dangerous knowing too much about that kind of thing. Just like meddling around with viruses.

Yeah, where they just throw random shit at it.

Well, you know. Scientists. Bunch of brainwashed know-nothings with their "empiricism", mucking about with forces beyond their ken.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

No, it's because I have no intention of communicating with you beyond insults.

Oki doke.

Bookmarking this for the next time you whimper.

It's not like it's anything new, given that that's how he's been "communicating" with almost everyone here since day one.

I know.  It's just that he also tends to snivel about how he's treated.

I wonder why even bothers coming here.  Everyone hates him.

He seems to be under the impression that there are people here who like him. Maybe he got a supportive PM from RWHN. Or Babs. 

[Doktor Howl]

No, it's because I have no intention of communicating with you beyond insults.

Oki doke.

Bookmarking this for the next time you whimper.

It's not like it's anything new, given that that's how he's been "communicating" with almost everyone here since day one.

I know.  It's just that he also tends to snivel about how he's treated.

I wonder why even bothers coming here.  Everyone hates him.

He seems to be under the impression that there are people here who like him. Maybe he got a supportive PM from RWHN. Or Babs. 

I'm betting RWHN.  Babs was a sick fuck, but RWHN is a bitter & hateful misogynist.

[LMNO]

This whole thing about whether the physical universe exists or not is pissing me off.

It comes down to one thing: replication.  If I do action X in context Y it results in Z.

If Roger does action X in context Y it results in Z.
If Nigel does action X in context Y it results in Z.
If Hoopla does action X in context Y it results in Z.
If you do action X in context Y it results in Z.

If one proposes that everything on the opposite side of our eyeballs is an illusion, then it turns out that proposed illusion has demonstrable rules, and those rules are true for everyone.  And those rules have an effect on our bodies, and those effects are the same on every body.  So the proposed illusion has exactly the same characteristics as an objective external universe. 

So, to call that an Illusion is inserting a meaningless term into our understanding of these effects. It can be easily removed without changing the nature of the effects, nor the observed rules.

Unless, unless... your claim is that the proposed Illusion is mutable, and is open to subjective change.  IS that what you're saying?

[Doktor Howl]

This whole thing about whether the physical universe exists or not is pissing me off.

It comes down to one things: replication.  If I do action X in context Y it results in Z.

If Roger does action X in context Y it results in Z.
If Nigel does action X in context Y it results in Z.
If Hoopla does action X in context Y it results in Z.
If you do action X in context Y it results in Z.

If one proposes that everything on the opposite side of our eyeballs is an illusion, then it turns out that proposed illusion has demonstrable rules, and those rules are true for everyone.  And those rules have an effect on our bodies, and those effects are the same on every body.  So the proposed illusion has exactly the same characteristics as an objective external universe. 

So, to call that an Illusion is inserting a meaningless term into our understanding of these effects. It can be easily removed without changing the nature of the effects, nor the observed rules.

Unless, unless... your claim is that the proposed Illusion is mutable, and is open to subjective change.  IS that what you're saying?

He's saying "Math is hard."   

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

This whole thing about whether the physical universe exists or not is pissing me off.

It comes down to one things: replication.  If I do action X in context Y it results in Z.

If Roger does action X in context Y it results in Z.
If Nigel does action X in context Y it results in Z.
If Hoopla does action X in context Y it results in Z.
If you do action X in context Y it results in Z.

If one proposes that everything on the opposite side of our eyeballs is an illusion, then it turns out that proposed illusion has demonstrable rules, and those rules are true for everyone.  And those rules have an effect on our bodies, and those effects are the same on every body.  So the proposed illusion has exactly the same characteristics as an objective external universe. 

So, to call that an Illusion is inserting a meaningless term into our understanding of these effects. It can be easily removed without changing the nature of the effects, nor the observed rules.

Unless, unless... your claim is that the proposed Illusion is mutable, and is open to subjective change.  IS that what you're saying?

He's saying "Math is hard."   

It's a lot easier if you can just take a lot of drugs and pretend that there are no rules, yanno?

[LMNO]

"What really happened to the Malaysian airliner is that everyone on the plane collectively stopped believing in covalent bonding."

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

Unless, unless... your claim is that the proposed Illusion is mutable, and is open to subjective change.  IS that what you're saying?

[LMNO]

We can solve for it algebraically.

"In the Illusionary Universe: The Illusion of Force equals the Illusion of Mass times the Illusion of Acceleration."

IU: I(f) = I(m)*I(a)

IU: I(f) = I(m)*I(a)
I     I        I      I

IU: I(f) = I(m)*I(a)
I     I        I      I

U: f=m*a