the Bowling thread

[rong]

i think maybe it is not really bowling that you enjoy

but, i didn't mean to jack this thread and our little portion seems to be turning into a different debate.

I don't think you're qualified to tell other people what they do or don't find enjoyable. I don't think anyone is. If you want to explore what other people find enjoyable, and how, how much, and why they find them enjoyable, that would make a pretty decent thread, IMO. You might find that people have very different perspectives from one another when it comes to enjoyable activities.

hey, I said maybe

I think, maybe, it's possible that some (but certainly not all) people believe they enjoy bowling, when what they actually enjoy is bowling with friends

personally, I enjoy bowling. I have gone bowling by myself.  I love the way it sounds.  I love trying to analyze the oil pattern.  Should I speed up my throw?  Slow it down?  more hook?  Maybe move over a couple boards?  Maybe move over an arrow and re-calibrate?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

i think maybe it is not really bowling that you enjoy

but, i didn't mean to jack this thread and our little portion seems to be turning into a different debate.

I don't think you're qualified to tell other people what they do or don't find enjoyable. I don't think anyone is. If you want to explore what other people find enjoyable, and how, how much, and why they find them enjoyable, that would make a pretty decent thread, IMO. You might find that people have very different perspectives from one another when it comes to enjoyable activities.

hey, I said maybe

I think, maybe, it's possible that some (but certainly not all) people believe they enjoy bowling, when what they actually enjoy is bowling with friends

personally, I enjoy bowling. I have gone bowling by myself.  I love the way it sounds.  I love trying to analyze the oil pattern.  Should I speed up my throw?  Slow it down?  more hook?  Maybe move over a couple boards?  Maybe move over an arrow and re-calibrate?

I'm sure that for some people, the enjoyable part is being social with people they like, or just being social, period. Personally, I enjoy bowling as a game, but not as a social activity particularly (because it gets in the way of having conversations, which is my preferred social activity), just not enough to seek it out as a pastime when I have limited time and many other things I enjoy more.

Do you have things that you enjoy when you happen to do them, but not as much as other things that you prefer to do when you have free time?

[rong]

Free time?  What's that?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Free time?  What's that?

As a full-college student with four children, I might well say the same thing. Which might also explain why I don't have time to care about bowling (or any number of pleasant pastime activities) enough to get any better at it.

[rong]

you don't care enough about bowling to get better at it, but you do care about it?

i think that was what sparked it all, right?  i said i couldn't think of anything that i enjoyed that i didn't care about.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

you don't care enough about bowling to get better at it, but you do care about it?

i think that was what sparked it all, right?  i said i couldn't think of anything that i enjoyed that i didn't care about.

I am not sure what the communication barrier is, here.

I enjoy bowling when I bowl, but I don't actually think about it almost ever, so it would be inaccurate to say that I care about it, because that would imply fucks given, and in fact I give no fucks. Why would I?

I enjoy a tremendous amount of things that I don't think about when I'm not reminded of them. Have you ever gone roller skating, birdwatching, rafting, ice skating, trout fishing, to an arcade, a casino, an amusement park, a shooting range, played Bingo, played poker, played pool, played tennis, gotten day drunk, ridden off-road vehicles, or done ANYTHING that you enjoyed at the time and yet never really thought about making time to do more of? Shit, there are so many things that I've done and enjoyed and wished that I wish I had more time to do. But I don't. And I have enough to do that I care about, that I honestly can't say that I care about most of the things I don't have time to do.

So you really care about all the things you have ever enjoyed? And make time to do them all? Are there just not very many things that you enjoy?

[rong]

maybe the word care means something different to you than it means to me?

i was going with care means "to feel interest in something"   (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/care )

now, that doesn't mean that everything i enjoy is at the forefront of my attention at all times.  but, i'm pretty sure i maintain some level of interest in all things that i enjoy.

ironically, i find myself enjoying this discussion less and less and therefore, caring about it less and less.

would you be interested in arguing about the meaning of semantics instead?

[LMNO]

Wow. Dildoes.

This thread STARTED this way.



Less glib answer if requested.

[rong]

yes please

[LMNO]

yes please

Response between 8:00 am and 4:00 pm EST.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

maybe the word care means something different to you than it means to me?

i was going with care means "to feel interest in something"   (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/care )

now, that doesn't mean that everything i enjoy is at the forefront of my attention at all times.  but, i'm pretty sure i maintain some level of interest in all things that i enjoy.

ironically, i find myself enjoying this discussion less and less and therefore, caring about it less and less.

would you be interested in arguing about the meaning of semantics instead?

No, because arguing semantics is dildoes, as LMNO may have pointed out already.

I feel interest in a great many things in the moment, and promptly cease to think about them when that moment is over.

I am actually rather easy to please, and find most things I do enjoyable or at least interesting. That doesn't mean I maintain interest in them when I'm done doing them. People can vary in this respect. Personally, I can't imagine maintaining sustained interest in everything I've enjoyed, that would be countless thousands of things. Life is fun.

I mainly replied to this topic because I encouraged you to make it, so I felt a bit of obligation to try to carry it on. I'm interested in what LMNO has to add to it, because as of right now it seems to be mostly you wanting to argue about why other people's experience of life isn't exactly like yours.

[hooplala]

maybe the word care means something different to you than it means to me?

i was going with care means "to feel interest in something"   (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/care )

now, that doesn't mean that everything i enjoy is at the forefront of my attention at all times.  but, i'm pretty sure i maintain some level of interest in all things that i enjoy.

ironically, i find myself enjoying this discussion less and less and therefore, caring about it less and less.

would you be interested in arguing about the meaning of semantics instead?

Rong, you are using "care" as a verb in this thread. Most others seem to be using it as a noun.

That may be part of the disconnect.

[LMNO]

Dildo The First: The original quote in this thread was in response to a non-sequitur judgement about a false dichotomy between two uses of the word "nerd", one being a derogatory, "out-group" social stigma, and the other being an ironic, "in-group" status marker.  The response itself was a further (self-identified) derailing of the topic, and was one of vague pseudo-sphynx-like truthiness (Colbert definition).

Dildo The Second: An additional false dichotomy was presented when you drew a strict line between enjoying a physical action in isolation versus enjoying a physical action in a social group.

Dildo The Third: The concept of "enjoyment" was assigned a binary position, implying that one either completely enjoyed the physical action, or they didn't; and that one completely enjoyed the social group, or didn't.  There was no room given for varied levels of enjoyment, in various contexts.

Dildo The Fourth: Semantically parsing the word "care", and again taking an extreme binary position that seems to equate caring about something with obsessing over something.

Dildo The Fifth: This post.  It's condescending and fairly pointless, but written at your request, and will doubtlessly generate more posts in this thread, which has been clearly shown to be dildoes.

[Doktor Howl]

I'd just like to point out that I call bowling "the sport of the great unwashed", because I'm better than people.

[Demolition Squid]

Dildo The First: The original quote in this thread was in response to a non-sequitur judgement about a false dichotomy between two uses of the word "nerd", one being a derogatory, "out-group" social stigma, and the other being an ironic, "in-group" status marker.  The response itself was a further (self-identified) derailing of the topic, and was one of vague pseudo-sphynx-like truthiness (Colbert definition).

Dildo The Second: An additional false dichotomy was presented when you drew a strict line between enjoying a physical action in isolation versus enjoying a physical action in a social group.

Dildo The Third: The concept of "enjoyment" was assigned a binary position, implying that one either completely enjoyed the physical action, or they didn't; and that one completely enjoyed the social group, or didn't.  There was no room given for varied levels of enjoyment, in various contexts.

Dildo The Fourth: Semantically parsing the word "care", and again taking an extreme binary position that seems to equate caring about something with obsessing over something.

Dildo The Fifth: This post.  It's condescending and fairly pointless, but written at your request, and will doubtlessly generate more posts in this thread, which has been clearly shown to be dildoes.