Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

[Junkenstein]

Im not a Trump voter, Im voting for Jill Stein, Im a Trump SUPPORTER. I support him because he is going to win.

Dude, come on. You''re smarter than this.

A vote for Jill Stein is an indirect vote for Trump. And if there are enough protest votes it will help her build a base for the next election and hopefully be on the major ticket before she passes prime-GILF years.

Seriously man, I KNOW you're smarter than this. What's up?

Upon what are you basing that assumption?   

He's written a few decent pieces here in the past that indicated a level of "getting it".

I'm not writing him off yet, it may be a bad batch of meth or something.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Im not a Trump voter, Im voting for Jill Stein, Im a Trump SUPPORTER. I support him because he is going to win.

Dude, come on. You''re smarter than this.

A vote for Jill Stein is an indirect vote for Trump. And if there are enough protest votes it will help her build a base for the next election and hopefully be on the major ticket before she passes prime-GILF years.

Seriously man, I KNOW you're smarter than this. What's up?

Upon what are you basing that assumption?   

He's written a few decent pieces here in the past that indicated a level of "getting it".

I'm not writing him off yet, it may be a bad batch of meth or something.

Yeah, but this election is bringing out the BEST in people. 

[The Wizard Joseph]

Sure, the politics got dirty. Hillary is more of that and I REALLY don't agree with her ideologically in many personal ways. SO WHAT?? This is the hand as it played out and frankly I'm fine with that on her competency and grit alone, ideology be damned.

But you see I just explained why a very large portion of the country would rather take a chance on Trump than elect someone who has played a very very large role in selling them out. Or do you want a primer on the effects of NAFTA on the working class too?

Trump is not "taking a chance". I know that must be a bit hard for you to swallow what with all of that Alt-right enlightenment pouring out of your mouth.

Voting for Trump is outright folly "smart guy".

Thought you were voting Stein hoping for a backlash that your side of the fringe could ride into real influence. I guess that's worth the "risk" to you. I'm betting that you're smart enough to have figured it's not you personally that stands to lose much to a Trump presidency anyway. It's all THOSE OTHER PEOPLE. That's acceptable right? Why that won't hurt you at all!

I don't know who you are, and I don't care. All I see is a sad fool lying about what he's really expecting to gain from this, either to us or yourself.

[Junkenstein]

Yeah, but this election is bringing out the BEST in people. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdkM_eSYXdw

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Sure, the politics got dirty. Hillary is more of that and I REALLY don't agree with her ideologically in many personal ways. SO WHAT?? This is the hand as it played out and frankly I'm fine with that on her competency and grit alone, ideology be damned.

But you see I just explained why a very large portion of the country would rather take a chance on Trump than elect someone who has played a very very large role in selling them out. Or do you want a primer on the effects of NAFTA on the working class too?

Trump is not "taking a chance". I know that must be a bit hard for you to swallow what with all of that Alt-right enlightenment pouring out of your mouth.

Voting for Trump is outright folly "smart guy".

Yes, you have stated these things and then implied that I am a bad/stupid person for not believing them, but why? What are the apocalyptic consequences of Trump that clearly I am too Alt-Right brainwashed to see?

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Sure, the politics got dirty. Hillary is more of that and I REALLY don't agree with her ideologically in many personal ways. SO WHAT?? This is the hand as it played out and frankly I'm fine with that on her competency and grit alone, ideology be damned.

But you see I just explained why a very large portion of the country would rather take a chance on Trump than elect someone who has played a very very large role in selling them out. Or do you want a primer on the effects of NAFTA on the working class too?

Trump is not "taking a chance". I know that must be a bit hard for you to swallow what with all of that Alt-right enlightenment pouring out of your mouth.

Voting for Trump is outright folly "smart guy".

Yes, you have stated these things and then implied that I am a bad/stupid person for not believing them, but why? What are the apocalyptic consequences of Trump that clearly I am too Alt-Right brainwashed to see?

More importantly, what are the apocalyptic consequences of Trump that are so great half of America should vote for someone who has fucked them every time theyve been in power and promises nothing but more of the same?

[The Wizard Joseph]

Sure, the politics got dirty. Hillary is more of that and I REALLY don't agree with her ideologically in many personal ways. SO WHAT?? This is the hand as it played out and frankly I'm fine with that on her competency and grit alone, ideology be damned.

But you see I just explained why a very large portion of the country would rather take a chance on Trump than elect someone who has played a very very large role in selling them out. Or do you want a primer on the effects of NAFTA on the working class too?

Trump is not "taking a chance". I know that must be a bit hard for you to swallow what with all of that Alt-right enlightenment pouring out of your mouth.

Voting for Trump is outright folly "smart guy".

Yes, you have stated these things and then implied that I am a bad/stupid person for not believing them, but why? What are the apocalyptic consequences of Trump that clearly I am too Alt-Right brainwashed to see?

Well those questions are mighty pointed! Allow me to be blunt.

If you can't figure out why explicitly supporting an unqualified fool for president might give me the impression that a person was stupid... well we don't have much to discuss. But I don't think you're stupid, not really. I think you're cowardly and pernicious. Clearly the stupidity defense isn't actually the case here, and so that's where I'm at in light of your alleged enlightenment.

As for the second, it's not about anything "apocalyptic". It doesn't have to be. He's not worthy. As for your brainwashing... meh. Seen worse, the guys foaming at the mouth about the subject of the apocalypse on the Alt-Right for example. Shall we dive in and take a look at the kooky bits under all those hoods?

Ah... but why? That nice reasonable veneer might crack more. Fuck... once you admit to supporting Trump there's no floor....


DO YOU BELIEVE?? LIKE REALLY BELIEVE???

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Sure, the politics got dirty. Hillary is more of that and I REALLY don't agree with her ideologically in many personal ways. SO WHAT?? This is the hand as it played out and frankly I'm fine with that on her competency and grit alone, ideology be damned.

But you see I just explained why a very large portion of the country would rather take a chance on Trump than elect someone who has played a very very large role in selling them out. Or do you want a primer on the effects of NAFTA on the working class too?

Trump is not "taking a chance". I know that must be a bit hard for you to swallow what with all of that Alt-right enlightenment pouring out of your mouth.

Voting for Trump is outright folly "smart guy".

Yes, you have stated these things and then implied that I am a bad/stupid person for not believing them, but why? What are the apocalyptic consequences of Trump that clearly I am too Alt-Right brainwashed to see?

Well those questions are mighty pointed! Allow me to be blunt.

If you can't figure out why explicitly supporting an unqualified fool for president might give me the impression that a person was stupid... well we don't have much to discuss. But I don't think you're stupid, not really. I think you're cowardly and pernicious. Clearly the stupidity defense isn't actually the case here, and so that's where I'm at in light of your alleged enlightenment.

As for the second, it's not about anything "apocalyptic". It doesn't have to be. He's not worthy. As for your brainwashing... meh. Seen worse, the guys foaming at the mouth about the subject of the apocalypse on the Alt-Right for example. Shall we dive in and take a look at the kooky bits under all those hoods?

Ah... but why? That nice reasonable veneer might crack more. Fuck... once you admit to supporting Trump there's no floor....


DO YOU BELIEVE?? LIKE REALLY BELIEVE???

So the basic gist Ive gotten from all this is you think Trump is "unqualified." And you think any of our previous leaders or Hillary Clinton are? What do you actually think is going to happen when Trump is sworn in? He is going to be unqualified in X area leading to Y? What is it?

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

A Trump presidency is frightening because the guy is a blustering moron who is almost guaranteed to alienate our allies in some serious ways. A Trump presidency is frightening because the economic plan he has put forward would cause serious damage to our fragile economy. A Trump presidency is frightening in the ways that it parallels the Brexit vote, in that his campaign has already stirred up some crazy racist, xenophobic bullshit that is resulting in innocent people being harassed and injured. A Trump presidency is frightening because he chose "funerals for fetuses" Pence as his running mate.

[Junkenstein]

Foreign affairs and NATO leading to numerous cluster fucks worldwide.

Unless his stance changes which it probably has in the past 10 mins. Twice.


There's also the crazy lies which I really wouldn't like to see get more attention.


For clarity, I'm no fan of Clinton either but you can at least see a degree of rationality in her policies. And, you know, she has policies not just rhetoric. There's simply no real argument about which is the more qualified candidate.

Just wait your turn, the clooney campaign next cycle will cause everyone (45ish% of everyone anyway) to shout for the "qualified" republicans chapo/west.

[Junkenstein]

A Trump presidency is frightening because the guy is a blustering moron who is almost guaranteed to alienate our allies in some serious ways. A Trump presidency is frightening because the economic plan he has put forward would cause serious damage to our fragile economy. A Trump presidency is frightening in the ways that it parallels the Brexit vote, in that his campaign has already stirred up some crazy racist, xenophobic bullshit that is resulting in innocent people being harassed and injured. A Trump presidency is frightening because he chose "funerals for fetuses" Pence as his running mate.

My dear accomplice,

Could you please replicate this for clinton? I smell a social experiment in the works for you social media users.

[The Wizard Joseph]

Sure, the politics got dirty. Hillary is more of that and I REALLY don't agree with her ideologically in many personal ways. SO WHAT?? This is the hand as it played out and frankly I'm fine with that on her competency and grit alone, ideology be damned.

But you see I just explained why a very large portion of the country would rather take a chance on Trump than elect someone who has played a very very large role in selling them out. Or do you want a primer on the effects of NAFTA on the working class too?

Trump is not "taking a chance". I know that must be a bit hard for you to swallow what with all of that Alt-right enlightenment pouring out of your mouth.

Voting for Trump is outright folly "smart guy".

Yes, you have stated these things and then implied that I am a bad/stupid person for not believing them, but why? What are the apocalyptic consequences of Trump that clearly I am too Alt-Right brainwashed to see?

Well those questions are mighty pointed! Allow me to be blunt.

If you can't figure out why explicitly supporting an unqualified fool for president might give me the impression that a person was stupid... well we don't have much to discuss. But I don't think you're stupid, not really. I think you're cowardly and pernicious. Clearly the stupidity defense isn't actually the case here, and so that's where I'm at in light of your alleged enlightenment.

As for the second, it's not about anything "apocalyptic". It doesn't have to be. He's not worthy. As for your brainwashing... meh. Seen worse, the guys foaming at the mouth about the subject of the apocalypse on the Alt-Right for example. Shall we dive in and take a look at the kooky bits under all those hoods?

Ah... but why? That nice reasonable veneer might crack more. Fuck... once you admit to supporting Trump there's no floor....


DO YOU BELIEVE?? LIKE REALLY BELIEVE???

So the basic gist Ive gotten from all this is you think Trump is "unqualified." And you think any of our previous leaders or Hillary Clinton are? What do you actually think is going to happen when Trump is sworn in? He is going to be unqualified in X area leading to Y? What is it?

I already answered both of your questions like a trooper once. No more freebies until you answer my question. How far did the rabbit hole go for ya bruh?

Bonus question: Did the folks you may have met there seem like... sane and fit to run things?

[The Wizard Joseph]

A Trump presidency is frightening because the guy is a blustering moron who is almost guaranteed to alienate our allies in some serious ways. A Trump presidency is frightening because the economic plan he has put forward would cause serious damage to our fragile economy. A Trump presidency is frightening in the ways that it parallels the Brexit vote, in that his campaign has already stirred up some crazy racist, xenophobic bullshit that is resulting in innocent people being harassed and injured. A Trump presidency is frightening because he chose "funerals for fetuses" Pence as his running mate.

My dear accomplice,

Could you please replicate this for clinton? I smell a social experiment in the works for you social media users.

The Truth has a funny effect on politics. Well put Q.G.

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

A Trump presidency is frightening because the guy is a blustering moron who is almost guaranteed to alienate our allies in some serious ways. A Trump presidency is frightening because the economic plan he has put forward would cause serious damage to our fragile economy. A Trump presidency is frightening in the ways that it parallels the Brexit vote, in that his campaign has already stirred up some crazy racist, xenophobic bullshit that is resulting in innocent people being harassed and injured. A Trump presidency is frightening because he chose "funerals for fetuses" Pence as his running mate.

My dear accomplice,

Could you please replicate this for clinton? I smell a social experiment in the works for you social media users.

Like, listing all the scary things about a Clinton administration? I do not feel the white searing heat of hatred for her, so it'd be harder.

[Junkenstein]

Please try regardless. No actual truth required, it's not like there's been much of that in this whole debacle anyway.

My thinking is that you can basically present two attack ads next to each other, full of truth or lies for either or both and you'll see, shall we say, certain types, focus on issues not even raised.