Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

[The Wizard Joseph]

If I lose the election is rigged, if I win its a fair open and transparent process.

Add to this most of the conservative, old time religious support for Israel in middle America electing the MOST dangerous of their options as regards Israel TWICE, into candidacy and now presidency. This time it really IS blood in their cup, but no good lord's. Just a taster for now really. Mostly they're just happy to see it so "overflowing with victory" once more.

Unawares many of the brides were sold... for bloody lamp oil money.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

"Professional protesters". 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Apocalypse aside the next 4 years of presidential soundbites are going to be hilarious on a scale the Dubya presidency could only dream of. Dude aint a bit slow like Bush was, he's like stroke-damage retarded 

[Junkenstein]

Apocalypse aside the next 4 years of presidential soundbites are going to be hilarious on a scale the Dubya presidency could only dream of. Dude aint a bit slow like Bush was, he's like stroke-damage retarded 

The concession speeches seem to agree. It's got the same tone as saying that the obviously pissed guy is cool to drive so give him the keys.

The big fear now should be he does something stupid (inevitable) that warrants impeachmentor has a stroke (how would you tell) or dies (possible bases on age ) and then you're dealing with president pence. 

[P3nT4gR4m]

I don't follow the political soap opera closely enough to even know who the fuck pence is but trump as a front man comes across as a stammering fuckhead who can't seem to follow a train of thought for more than two or three words of a sentence. Then there's that tape-loop thing he does where he just keeps repeating the same non-sequitur until everyone gets fed up listening and claps.

I'm reminded of the stories of Cesar appointing a horse as consul. Yeah, I know that never actually happened but with Trump? Shit, man, all bets are off. I feel a bit bad that America is about to sink like a led zep and probably take most of western civilisation with it but, lets face it, that was always going to happen anyway. At least with Trump, it'll be funny as fuck.

[Salty]

Apocalypse aside the next 4 years of presidential soundbites are going to be hilarious on a scale the Dubya presidency could only dream of. Dude aint a bit slow like Bush was, he's like stroke-damage retarded 

The concession speeches seem to agree. It's got the same tone as saying that the obviously pissed guy is cool to drive so give him the keys.

The big fear now should be he does something stupid (inevitable) that warrants impeachmentor has a stroke (how would you tell) or dies (possible bases on age ) and then you're dealing with president pence.

While I fear Pence, I would trust him with nuclear codes any day of the week, compared with Trump.

Which, is a sad, sorry state of affairs all by itself.

[P3nT4gR4m]

If you honestly think it's possible for the POTUS to launch a nuke, you're way too caught up in the whole dog and pony show. If and when the nukes go off it'll be because some script kiddie from lulzsec gets butthurt over a flame war or else some early warning system glitches and shows icbms inbound from russia

[Salty]

If you honestly think it's possible for the POTUS to launch a nuke, you're way too caught up in the whole dog and pony show. If and when the nukes go off it'll be because some script kiddie from lulzsec gets butthurt over a flame war or else some early warning system glitches and shows icbms inbound from russia

He's not going to just wake up and hit the big red button or anything.
The finer point that I was making is that Trump is rash and unpredictable and giving him the last say as commander of the largest, nuclear armed military in the world is not a great idea.

Why does the POTUS have the codes? Because he gets the final say as when to use them.

[Junkenstein]

I don't follow the political soap opera closely enough to even know who the fuck pence is but trump as a front man comes across as a stammering fuckhead who can't seem to follow a train of thought for more than two or three words of a sentence. Then there's that tape-loop thing he does where he just keeps repeating the same non-sequitur until everyone gets fed up listening and claps.

I'm reminded of the stories of Cesar appointing a horse as consul. Yeah, I know that never actually happened but with Trump? Shit, man, all bets are off. I feel a bit bad that America is about to sink like a led zep and probably take most of western civilisation with it but, lets face it, that was always going to happen anyway. At least with Trump, it'll be funny as fuck.

Pence is the actually batshit crazy born again VP.

And trump-talk is a sad reflection on attention spans. You listen to his jabbering for any length of time and it's just striking how it's never relevant and just 3/4 words repeated.

example:

Q: Let me ask you about women voters — why should they vote for you?

A: Because I'm very much into the whole thing of helping people and helping women.
Women's health uh issues are such a big thing to me and so important
and you know I have many women that work for me
I was one of the first persons uh people in the construction industry in New York
to put women in charge of projects,
I mean I have it even today,
and I have many women at high positions. I
you know I've gotten a lot of credit for that,
I mean I have so many women working for me
and so many women in high positions working for me
and I've gotten great credit for it.

I've dealt with more coherent drunks. This is a quote at random but I'll guarantee any other would be similar. Seriously though, it makes you think that some people's attention span and recollection is literally down to believing anything they're told three times.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Aye, that's exactly what I'm talking about. To the best of my knowledge I've never heard him say anything that communicated actual information.

[Junkenstein]

Aye, that's exactly what I'm talking about. To the best of my knowledge I've never heard him say anything that communicated actual information.

A meeting of Boris, Pence and trump is likely to actually result in less information than you began with. All three are fantasists so a meeting about Syria will mean Turkey to one, Iraq to another and China to the third. It'd be a shitty comedy if it wasn't quite likey.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I actually like Boris. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a cunt and I'd prolly throw him a housebrick if he was drowning and brag about it after. I just mean he's an entertaining fuck with it. Given that your choices are pretty much all wankers, I prefer the entertaining wankers over the dull, pedantic fucks.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

http://boingboing.net/2016/11/11/hitlers-only-kidding-about.html

Cory Doctorow rarely disappoints. 

"Several reliable, well-informed sources confirmed the idea that Hitler's anti-Semitism was not so genuine or violent as it sounded, and that he was merely using anti-Semitic propaganda as a bait to catch masses of followers and keep them aroused, enthusiastic, and in line for the time when his organization is perfected and sufficiently powerful to be employed effectively for political purposes."

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I am LOL that Canada is dropping visa requirements for Mexicans.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-mexico-visa-requirement-trump-1.3845957

The federal government is preparing for a potential surge in Mexican migrants coming to Canada after Donald Trump's election victory, CBC News has learned.

Sources confirm high level meetings took place this week with officials at Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada and in other departments.

The news comes as Canada prepares to loosen rules for Mexicans to enter the country by lifting a visa requirement on Dec. 1. That restriction has been in place since 2009.

Talks on a plan to cope with a possible spike in asylum-seekers have been ongoing for some time, but were accelerated this week after Trump's surprise win.

[Junkenstein]

Seems logical. Can't imagine that the current administration will bother much about deporting to the correct country when any country will do.