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Started by EK WAFFLR, August 10, 2015, 03:37:20 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

That shit'll put hair on your chest, Bearman. And that's a terrifying thought.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Nast

I'm sort of in a situation where I'm at the end of my rope with a friendship. The other person is dense, inattentive, and weirdly dismissive of my feelings (saying things like "You're just depressed because you want to be", forgetting my birthday after I tell him repeatedly when it is, etc.)

The crazymaking part is that when I bring up issues, he says thinks our relationship is fine and he sees no problems. It makes me feel like I'm just being a shrill, emotionally demanding harpy.

I don't know, it seems like women have these great, emotionally-connected relationships in which they can confide in one another and support each other...and what do men have? Gah.

"If I owned Goodwill, no charity worker would feel safe.  I would sit in my office behind a massive pile of cocaine, racking my pistol's slide every time the cleaning lady came near.  Auditors, I'd just shoot."

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Nast on October 02, 2015, 07:56:08 PM
I'm sort of in a situation where I'm at the end of my rope with a friendship. The other person is dense, inattentive, and weirdly dismissive of my feelings (saying things like "You're just depressed because you want to be", forgetting my birthday after I tell him repeatedly when it is, etc.)

The crazymaking part is that when I bring up issues, he says thinks our relationship is fine and he sees no problems. It makes me feel like I'm just being a shrill, emotionally demanding harpy.

I don't know, it seems like women have these great, emotionally-connected relationships in which they can confide in one another and support each other...and what do men have? Gah.

Time for a friend break-up. I'm sorry Nast, that really sucks. You deserve supportive loving friendships.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Nast

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Quote from: Nast on October 02, 2015, 07:56:08 PM
I'm sort of in a situation where I'm at the end of my rope with a friendship. The other person is dense, inattentive, and weirdly dismissive of my feelings (saying things like "You're just depressed because you want to be", forgetting my birthday after I tell him repeatedly when it is, etc.)

The crazymaking part is that when I bring up issues, he says thinks our relationship is fine and he sees no problems. It makes me feel like I'm just being a shrill, emotionally demanding harpy.

I don't know, it seems like women have these great, emotionally-connected relationships in which they can confide in one another and support each other...and what do men have? Gah.

Time for a friend break-up. I'm sorry Nast, that really sucks. You deserve supportive loving friendships.

Thanks Nigel. In a way, knowing when it's time to break up with a friend is harder than knowing when it's time to break up in a romantic relationship.
"If I owned Goodwill, no charity worker would feel safe.  I would sit in my office behind a massive pile of cocaine, racking my pistol's slide every time the cleaning lady came near.  Auditors, I'd just shoot."

LMNO

Now the next issue:  Do you confront and break up, or do you fade?

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO on October 02, 2015, 08:31:05 PM
Now the next issue:  Do you confront and break up, or do you fade?

Confront.  Fading is cruel.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nast on October 02, 2015, 07:56:08 PM
I'm sort of in a situation where I'm at the end of my rope with a friendship. The other person is dense, inattentive, and weirdly dismissive of my feelings (saying things like "You're just depressed because you want to be", forgetting my birthday after I tell him repeatedly when it is, etc.)

The crazymaking part is that when I bring up issues, he says thinks our relationship is fine and he sees no problems. It makes me feel like I'm just being a shrill, emotionally demanding harpy.

I don't know, it seems like women have these great, emotionally-connected relationships in which they can confide in one another and support each other...and what do men have? Gah.

It could very possibly be that your friend is simply too self-absorbed to be capable of a relationship.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Nast

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 08:36:13 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 02, 2015, 08:31:05 PM
Now the next issue:  Do you confront and break up, or do you fade?

Confront.  Fading is cruel.

Agreed. Also, I'm of the belief that leaving things unsaid is also bad for your own health.
"If I owned Goodwill, no charity worker would feel safe.  I would sit in my office behind a massive pile of cocaine, racking my pistol's slide every time the cleaning lady came near.  Auditors, I'd just shoot."

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nast on October 02, 2015, 08:44:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 08:36:13 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 02, 2015, 08:31:05 PM
Now the next issue:  Do you confront and break up, or do you fade?

Confront.  Fading is cruel.

Agreed. Also, I'm of the belief that leaving things unsaid is also bad for your own health.

Kalera's Principle:  You cannot brutalize people without brutalizing yourself.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: Nast on October 02, 2015, 08:44:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 08:36:13 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 02, 2015, 08:31:05 PM
Now the next issue:  Do you confront and break up, or do you fade?

Confront.  Fading is cruel.

Agreed. Also, I'm of the belief that leaving things unsaid is also bad for your own health.

Kalera's Principle:  You cannot brutalize people without brutalizing yourself.

:)
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 08:36:13 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 02, 2015, 08:31:05 PM
Now the next issue:  Do you confront and break up, or do you fade?

Confront.  Fading is cruel.

I agree with this unless it is a case where the person is an emotionally dangerous drama whore.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I am, for the PD record, supercrazydiculously in love with Alty. Like, why did he ever even live in Alaska when he was clearly meant to be here making me stupid happy?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 03, 2015, 05:24:52 AM
I am, for the PD record, supercrazydiculously in love with Alty. Like, why did he ever even live in Alaska when he was clearly meant to be here making me stupid happy?

That one pic with his left eye held open reminded me of Robot Chicken.

You: Mad Scientist
Alty: Robot Alty

Sounds like a hit!
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

The Good Reverend Roger

#853
So, an interbutts hero has challenged me to a fight in January, when he will fly in to Phoenix from Methville, MN, to visit his sister.

I have agreed to meet him out back of the Meetrack.  As the challenged party, I claimed the choice of weapons, and elected to use crowbars.  And stipulated that the loser gets handed over to the perverts.

He suddenly wants rules.   :lulz:

It's like kids just aren't serious about having a good time anymore.  I feel ripped off.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 03, 2015, 06:28:14 AM
So, an interbutts hero has challenged me to a fight in January, when he will fly in to Phoenix from Methville, MN, to visit his sister.

I have agreed to meet him out back of the Meetrack.  As the challenged party, I claimed the choice of weapons, and elected to use crowbars.  And stipulated that the loser gets handed over to the perverts.

He suddenly wants rules.   :lulz:

It's like kids just aren't serious about having a good time anymore.  I feel ripped off.
:lulz:
You gave him rules! He offered you challenge. You rightfully set honorable terms. His only remaining out is to claim incompetence with a crowbar and choose an honorable second to take his place. He would still have to be there and get his from the perverts of course.

I'm thinking this guy's never really issued challenge before. Ours is a benighted age full of fools and noobs indeed.  :cry:

There's a whole Wizard Tale in my head about this stuff. The Wizard's first "real job" is as a courier for Baron Samedi. He and Mama Brigid had a bad brake up in the 70s. Samedi regrets this and wants to send a letter to her, but all messengers so far have returned... very dead or even deader. After the Wizard FINALLY manages an audience with Brigid she refuses to accept the letter. She is a Fey and just a bit more than crazy about the formalities.  He then formally challenges her honor on behalf of the Baron and is set to fight her second, who happens to be her current boyfriend/bodyguard to the death in a bare handed cage fight.

I'll get it all down in text eventually, but the terms and details of a duel are everything!

You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl