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Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« on: May 27, 2016, 05:27:41 pm »
Going to the silly rainbow parade, gonna flyer the shit out of all the pretty people. I have the set of pope cards from last year, but I want to include some stuff like the Strange Times pamphlets. I think the Notes on an Inconvenient Universe may be too dark for the mood, but maybe some of the other stuff from Holy Nonsense is okay? Maybe there are some essays on Saturday Night that would work and be okay for distribution? Maybe someone gets inspired and writes a new thing in the next week!

Toss out any ideas here. I'll generate print and online versions of anything and everything and hand out as much as my budget allows.
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2016, 11:43:08 pm »
I'm down, but not too sure what I can do. I have a partial piece I wrote last night about an interpretation of some of Jesus'  teachings in Matthew that could indicate an argument for gender, and by extension sexual orientation, rights from with the context of "Christanity". I can post what I have so far, but I want to refine the argument some before publication. I'll post it ITT if you like. I don't really intend to open a thread here @pd for it, kinda sharply off topic.

What's the time frame are you figuring on? Is it 1 week?
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2016, 11:48:04 pm »
I'm down, but not too sure what I can do. I have a partial piece I wrote last night about an interpretation of some of Jesus'  teachings in Matthew that could indicate an argument for gender, and by extension sexual orientation, rights from with the context of "Christanity". I can post what I have so far, but I want to refine the argument some before publication. I'll post it ITT if you like. I don't really intend to open a thread here @pd for it, kinda sharply off topic.

What's the time frame are you figuring on? Is it 1 week?

2 weeks, although getting stuff done earlier means more time for formatting/printing/tweaking
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2016, 12:09:24 am »
Also, to be clear, I'm not looking for stuff that's super on the nose for LGBT stuff, just want to get the tone right. More "get your weird on everywhere" and less horrormirth.
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2016, 01:37:45 am »
Ok. I'm not so sure about my write up then. I could reformat it to perhaps seem "Discordian" in style, but it's rather precisely "on the nose" in that sense either way.

I'll post it in the bar. I'm kinda looking for more general feedback anyway, and there's no point filling this thread with such.

I could quite possibly finish On the Secret Genesis of Eris in that time if I commit. Do you think that could be of interest on your project?
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2016, 01:58:37 am »
You know? I don't think there's a specifically queer-positive Discordian tract or pamphlet.


Hmmm. Certainly not for '16 Pride, but this could be fertile ground. Brainstorming is needed.

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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2016, 06:38:36 am »
Wasn't there a piece on big gay cowboys?

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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2016, 07:01:02 am »
You know? I don't think there's a specifically queer-positive Discordian tract or pamphlet.


Hmmm. Certainly not for '16 Pride, but this could be fertile ground. Brainstorming is needed.

Agreed.

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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2016, 02:46:42 am »
You know? I don't think there's a specifically queer-positive Discordian tract or pamphlet.

I think that's because this is the one place where it really doesn't matter.

Not saying we can't or shouldn't, just saying it's never really come up.
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2016, 04:09:09 am »
I really love that. It's just... Never been an issue.

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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2016, 05:49:49 am »
I really love that. It's just... Never been an issue.

Might be a first in recorded western civ, come to think of it. Huh
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2016, 05:55:59 am »
There has, of course, been the bog-standard number of people who come in, flaunting whatever things they think make them baaaaad people (Aini comes to mind).  But nobody CARES, and they get all bent out of shape.

So my question here is, what kind of "Gay-friendly" stuff do we want?  I have some ideas, based on things I've written in the past about other things, I suppose.

My first one would be the "Remember, for some fucking reason, THEY are afraid of US" thing.
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2016, 03:33:04 pm »
I remember when the Caitlyn Jenner transition news broke last year. There was an upswing in all manner of related strife, but also folks started to "come out" or begin to actually seek transition in considerable numbers and with new, unheard of boldness. I remember only 1 voice calling for a creative push among the Discordians I had interactions with on FB at the time. One. Single. Discordian.

There was a resulting flutter of conversation from the cabal whose FB he contacted. It became painfully apparent to the folks paying attention that despite all its "counter-culture" Discordianism remains remarkably CIS-male in active membership. Never even got a pamphlet out. Times moved on, election shit set in.
Window closed. I'm still "FB friends" with this person and respect them quite a bit, but not seen much lately.

I'm not bringing it up to poop on anyone, just reporting how it went to look at. I think that if a real effort to expand and recruit in "minorities" overall is made, then the whole of Discordian Society will benefit immensely as those folks actually within a given situation or sub-culture are best fit to speak to it, and will once Eris gets her fingers in.

I guess I'm saying that the question seems not so much "what does "Discordia" have to say to the community", but rather "how shall we bring elements of the community to it?" What would they then say to "their own"? The first action of expansion is to gather, then order, then push, push HARD, repeat.
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2016, 05:41:22 pm »
There has, of course, been the bog-standard number of people who come in, flaunting whatever things they think make them baaaaad people (Aini comes to mind).  But nobody CARES, and they get all bent out of shape.

So my question here is, what kind of "Gay-friendly" stuff do we want?  I have some ideas, based on things I've written in the past about other things, I suppose.

My first one would be the "Remember, for some fucking reason, THEY are afraid of US" thing.

THEY are afraid of US is a good place to start IMO. Free All Over The Place WITHOUT PERMISSION I think is another. Cain's Hearts and Minds is really close to on the mark, but it's focused on O:MF to a slightly distracting degree. Maybe something along the lines of "Welcome to the Front Lines"?


In the formatting/printing department, I churned out a ton of existing stuff (posted most of the booklets yesterday, ran off a bunch of The Strange Times too). I'm also trying out a new format (for me) I'm referring to as multifold: full sheet design on one side, back has a half sheet and two quarters, it's folded up such that the two quarters are visible when you hand it out, then unfolds to reveal the half, then the full. I'm also doing doublesided half sheets of some of the one pagers (Systems vs The System, Letter to the Cabbages, Chasing Green Butterflies, Guerrilla Surrealism). I can post those in the propaganda depository if there's interest?
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Re: Soliciting Works/Ideas for Pride
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2016, 07:10:06 pm »
Please do!