General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread

[tyrannosaurus vex]

Well, maybe now that the GOP has passed their horrific tax plan, they'll start wondering whether keeping Trump around is more political risk than it's worth.

LOL jk

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[Cain]

Now they'll be emboldened to come up with even more stupid shit to push through Congress while the President is "learning the ropes" (aka admitting crimes on Twitter).

I believe there's at least one more vote the tax plan has to go through before becoming law though, right?

[tyrannosaurus vex]

Now they'll be emboldened to come up with even more stupid shit to push through Congress while the President is "learning the ropes" (aka admitting crimes on Twitter).

I believe there's at least one more vote the tax plan has to go through before becoming law though, right?

It goes back the House, which means it's as good as passed. The only hope we have that it fails at this point is that some of the TEA Party representatives decide the Senate version doesn't fuck enough poor black people and refuse to support it. But that won't happen because the base is already gung-ho for the "Republican Tax Plan" and will support anything that can be labeled that. The base would support universal income and free healthcare for everyone as long as the people pushing it insulted Obama's mother at the press conference.

[Doktor Howl]

The hope is that the house will want to put their dick in it, which means it goes back to the senate again.  This can go on for years.

[Cain]

Maybe they'll come up with more illegible writing to put in the margins?

[tyrannosaurus vex]

I almost think the whole thing is just smoke and mirrors to keep support for Congress from completely collapsing and dragging the GOP's coalition down with it. They're parading around like they just solved world hunger or something (well, not that, since they'd never admit to doing that) despite the fact that the bill is still mired in parliamentary procedures. They've already pleased their base by portraying the Senate bill's success as something that matters, and if the bill does eventually die, they'll let it do so quietly and let their voters keep on thinking something was done.

[Bu🤠ns]

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/04/trump-white-house-weighing-plans-for-private-spies-to-counter-deep-state-enemies/

The Trump administration is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering "deep state" enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Trump's presidency.
The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration's political agenda.
"Pompeo can't trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him," said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. "It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books," this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community.

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[Cain]

Mueller has Trump's personal banking records.  Deutsche Bank were served with a subpoena to hand them over.

[Doktor Howl]

Mueller has Trump's personal banking records.  Deutsche Bank were served with a subpoena to hand them over.

woooooooooooo    and


ETA HOW DO WE NOT HAVE AN EMOTE FOR SCHADENFREUDE?  OFF TO FIX THAT.

[Doktor Howl]

Can someone shrink that?

[Junkenstein]

Mueller has Trump's personal banking records.  Deutsche Bank were served with a subpoena to hand them over.

I am currently crying with laughter.

Remember this fucker had loans from over 150 banks at one point prior to one of his bankruptcies. Banks have long memories and I'm sure more than a few will be delighted to turn the knife.

Half a goat says it's HSBC that does so for added laughs.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/04/trump-white-house-weighing-plans-for-private-spies-to-counter-deep-state-enemies/

The Trump administration is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering "deep state" enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Trump's presidency.
The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration's political agenda.
"Pompeo can't trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him," said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. "It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books," this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community.

Wow, I think such a plan might potentially count as treason in and of itself, irrespective of the seperate treason of having russia meddle in the election

[tyrannosaurus vex]

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/04/trump-white-house-weighing-plans-for-private-spies-to-counter-deep-state-enemies/

The Trump administration is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering "deep state" enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Trump's presidency.
The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration's political agenda.
"Pompeo can't trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him," said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. "It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books," this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community.

Wow, I think such a plan might potentially count as treason in and of itself, irrespective of the seperate treason of having russia meddle in the election

The thing about "treason" and "obstruction of justice" is that they're only crimes if someone is willing and able to prosecute them. The only people in the country right now who can hold Trump accountable to anything is Congress, and if you think they're going to derail this gravy train over a few little high crimes and misdemeanors, you're sadly mistaken. Besides the obvious legislative benefits to having Trump in office, there's the fact that 2/3 of their base will rebel in the next election if they so much as lift a finger in that direction. Trump is here to stay until at least 2019, and then only if Democrats manage to sweep both the House and Senate, which they won't, thanks to all the gerrymandering and voter suppression. We're in this for the long haul.

[Cain]

US presidents relying on private intelligence networks not only isn't new, this involves some of the same damn people as one of the previous times.

All they need is to talk to the Saudis about funding the venture and they call call it the Sarfari Club 2.0.

On the plus side, at least its not the LaRouches.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

Something needs to be done about Saudi Arabia. If ever there was a country that deserved to be completely wiped off the map and replaced with a gaping hole into the earth's mantle it's them.