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Started by Chelagoras The Boulder, June 26, 2017, 05:00:45 AM

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chaotic neutral observer

My belief is that if you want to learn a practical martial art, you should study the stuff they teach to the modern military.

Quote from: altered on January 26, 2021, 07:08:05 PM
I would rather recommend A: trying to find a shooting club and B: trying to learn krav maga.

Yup.  (Krav Maga was developed for the Israeli military, so it qualifies.)
Desine fata deum flecti sperare precando.

chaotic neutral observer

Quote from: Galerson on January 26, 2021, 06:24:10 PM
I'm learning about judo which has its own philosophy. Jū yoku gō o seisueir means softness controls hardness, yoku zen'yō means maximum efficiency, minimum effort, and jita kyōei means mutual welfare and benefit. I'm just a beginner, a white belt, so I really don't understand very much yet. But things are so violent now I want to learn self-defense.

As I understand it, judo's origin is jiu jitsu.  More specifically, it's a wimped-down version so that civilians could practice a martial art without hurting themselves.

I wouldn't think it would be a good place to start if self-defense is your object.

Desine fata deum flecti sperare precando.

Galerson

It's hard learning martial arts right now because of COVID-19. Most of the schools are closed. But there's judo classes online, and I'm getting help from someone I'm exposed to anyway.

altered

It is. Judo is about half of it, and for a long time (until the 1970s, I believe?) it was considered a school of judo. But the focus is entirely different: judo is defensive and meant to disarm attackers armed with knives at best. It's a grappling art with no striking at all. Attempting to survive a real world life-or-death situation involving a gun with pure judo is a lot less of a gamble than with krav maga, in the sense that krav maga gives you a chance and judo will ensure you get shot because you cannot redirect the kinetic energy of bullets with your body without injury.

(After you disarm someone, if they are alone and you have backup at hand or coming soon, judo can be useful to restrain them -- but that's a different scenario entirely.)

Honestly, even krav maga isn't great in the current environment, but I have been informed that it would be a bad look to say leftists should be as armed as the insurgents gearing up to murder them. With that restriction, krav maga at least gives you some chance of survival, and gives you a /very/ good chance of breaking something the other guy would rather you hadn't broken.
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Cain

Do research however. After some PR campaigns, a lot of places bill themselves as Krav Maga but are not.

If it's not full contact, full resistance training, don't do it. Anything that offers full contact and full resistance will be better for teaching you to take and throw a punch than nothing at all, no matter what it's labelled.

altered

Quote from: Cain on January 27, 2021, 01:08:28 AM
Do research however. After some PR campaigns, a lot of places bill themselves as Krav Maga but are not.

If it's not full contact, full resistance training, don't do it. Anything that offers full contact and full resistance will be better for teaching you to take and throw a punch than nothing at all, no matter what it's labelled.

Facts.
"I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me."

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.

Galerson

Thanks for the advice. When COVID-19 doesn't have everything shut down, I might look into that. I guess knowing the basics of judo will help.

But really, doesn't Krav Maga sound like Russian supporters of Donald Trump?  :lulz:

Chelagoras The Boulder

Quote from: Cain on January 27, 2021, 01:08:28 AM
Do research however. After some PR campaigns, a lot of places bill themselves as Krav Maga but are not.

If it's not full contact, full resistance training, don't do it. Anything that offers full contact and full resistance will be better for teaching you to take and throw a punch than nothing at all, no matter what it's labelled.
Yeah Krav maga classes tend to range from, "WE ARE PREPARING FOR FULL GUERRILLA COMBAT" to "Hey, did you guys know you can kick a dude in the balls? Wild."
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Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on January 30, 2021, 03:38:11 PM
Yeah Krav maga classes tend to range from, "WE ARE PREPARING FOR FULL GUERRILLA COMBAT" to "Hey, did you guys know you can kick a dude in the balls? Wild."

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LaVey is a shitbag, and he's at least somewhat responsible for the close association of Satanists and fascists these days (OONA and so forth). Go look his statements about the Nazis up. Dude isn't worth your time or anyone else's.
"I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me."

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.

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