A challenge for all Bush-Haters

[Rev Thwack]

I'm on day 35 of my weekend now. Still not sure how long this one is going to last for, but I'm enjoying it so far.

[Hoshiko]

I LOVE the weekday weekend. You don't have to beat the shopping rush on Saturday, the movie rush on friday night, the overcrowdedness of covienence store bathrooms... You can go to the DMV or the Governor's Office or the Swedish Fish factory tour. You want to go sledding? No kids in the park so you don't have to knock them all down!

The world is quiet and your oyster when you wake up to a Monday morning weekend. *


* Statement void in Utah where they have family home evenings on Monday and don't actually, you know, stay at home.

[Wishfarple]

* Statement void in Utah where they have family home evenings on Monday and don't actually, you know, stay at home.

Say what?  Is this some Mormon thing again?

[Horab Fibslager]

Of course, that means when the rest of his friends have the day off, horab has to work...



But that shouldn't pose a problem, as horab obviously must not have any friends...

it's sad but true. cept for those people, and that guy and that chick a dn those other people and...

the mormons have declared monday alien sex day, when you must sweet alien love to teh alien high lord of the planet neptune, who is not an ordinary man wearing a rubber mask.

[IAmNotAnonymous]

the mormons have declared monday alien sex day, when you must sweet alien love to teh alien high lord of the planet neptune, who is not an ordinary man wearing a rubber mask.

Who's going to notice the rubber mask when there's the Magic Sheet of Joseph Smith between them?

[Hoshiko]

Family home evening is when you're all supposed to stay home and play board games and have cocoa and put on plays for each other, except that almost everybody goes out to a movie or to eat now instead. Monday evenings are busy in Utah.

And who needs the magic sheet when you have garments to get through?

[Voice of Truth]

"Nevertheless, here's why I had a problem with your OP VoT. It's not because of your "political beliefs", it's because of the unspoken assumption that you are going to agree 100% with G.W. before he even opens his mouth to speak, and you also assume that we're so far in denial that we won't or can't listen with an open mind. You felt the need to defend him before he even spoke, in other words. Pretty presumptuous. Myself, I wouldn't state ahead of time that I agree with something someone's going to say ever, and I sure as hell wouldn't put myself in a position to defend it before I know what "it" is going to be. Not even if that person is Jesus H. Christ. For all you know he could have started reading verbatim from Mein Kampf. (insert joke here)"

This is just it.  I DON'T agree with everything Bush has done.  Again, as I had said, it became obvious that civilized debate was not working here so I do it with some of the Discordians elsewhere.  I simply chose not to do it HERE.  That being said, I feel Bush is spending at levels that many Democrats have never attempted and I don't like it.  I believe gay marriage is a states' rights issue and DON'T support a federal amendment.  I also DON'T support giving workers' permits to immigrants here illegally, as Bush does.  The fact is the NeoCon label is ignorant and stupid.  Other than that, I AM a conservative, not because I choose to follow the party line, but because 95% of the time when an issue comes up I draw my own conclusions and the Republicans either are on my side of the issue or are far close to it than the Dems/libs.  I have no problem being a member of the conservative "team" or whatever.  That DOES NOT mean that every single thing they say I agree with, but I'm rational enough to figure out which party my beliefs are closest too.  I'm not big on social programs, I like a strong military, I am for free markets/capitalism, I believe that America IS the reason that nations around the world are increasingly becoming free societies and that it IS our job to promote it (even though this is more Truman doctrine than a Republican thing, persay).  I believe we need to both protect the environment and be sensible to business in the process.  I believe less tax, for ALL people is good.  I believe decriminalization of most drugs is the right thing to do because the war on drugs is going no where.  I believe the war on poverty is just as big of a joke.  I believe that yes, Reagan was the catalyst for the end of the Cold war.

Just for the record, guys, I'm sure you'll have things to say about this list, but I'm not going to start debating these issues.  I will continue to do that over at the Messiah Forum.  I'm just trying to explain why I don't tow the party line on every last issue, but I am for all intensive purposes a conservative and far to the right.  I don't think calling myself one means I blindly follow my party.  It means I've analyzed the issues and that's where I fall.  I'm also an accounting/management major.  It's hard to be a business major and then support liberal business policies for me.  Anyway, that crap about me "defending him" before he ever spoke was inaccurate.  I was simply encouraging people to watch the speech.  That's all.  No big deal.

I do get a little tired of the people that talk shit about America all the time and how it's so awful here, but oh well.  That's what freedom of speech is all about.  I just think it's funny that this is still the country most foreigners want to come to, but that's another debate.  For real, if you think you know me so well head on over to the other forum and we can debate the issues all day long, my friend.

As to the attacks, I got what I deserved for posting conservative thoughts on this bastion of opposing thought.  I've learned my lesson.  From now on I'll stick to pictures of dudes with mullets and references to penis size.

[Hoshiko]

Fair enough. I'm sure we agree on more issues than you think.

I haven't read any of your other posts on the boards. I came blind into this thread and saw someone associating themselves with GW's speech before the thing ever happened and presuming that us "libs and dems" wouldn't care to take the time to see or hear such a thing ourselves. He's a wartime president stating the things he's looking to accomplish in the next 4 years. What made you think those interested in politics wouldn't want to hear that, unless you were suffering from some sort of "us or them" mentality about discordians?

Anyway, the point is I am challenging you to surprise me and actually give Bush your ear for under 20 minutes of your day tomorrow and see what the guy has to say about where he intends to lead us in the next four years. I doubt many of you will, but prove me wrong. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's those who will only listen to their own point of view.

Well, many of us did, and many of us don't need you to remind us to brush our teeth either.  :P  

Again, as I had said, it became obvious that civilized debate was not working here so I do it with some of the Discordians elsewhere. I simply chose not to do it HERE.

And I saw your post here, not there. Hence my post.

I do get a little tired of the people that talk shit about America all the time

Maybe they're not all talking shit about "America". Maybe some of them are questioning policies they believe are unfair and have a good reason to do so. Maybe they're patriots who don't equate government with country. Maybe they're foreigners who of course would want to live here (why wouldn't they? Our way is the only way worth living after all.) Maybe they're messing with people such as yourself.

As to the attacks, I got what I deserved for posting conservative thoughts on this bastion of opposing thought.

I'm glad you think for yourself. Have a cookie.

[Horab Fibslager]

i'm horab fibslager and i'm here to talk shit about america. america is a no good nazi pigfucking purplehead illegitmate stepchild who's obviously been hit not only by an ugly stick but a mack truck as well. thank you and goodnight.

[agent compassion]

::eats horab's brain::

::gets extremely high::

[Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell]

i'm horab fibslager and i'm here to talk shit about america. america is a no good nazi pigfucking purplehead illegitmate stepchild who's obviously been hit not only by an ugly stick but a mack truck as well. thank you and goodnight.

Oh God, I agree.

I hope you're not being sarcastic.

[Voice of Truth]

Thanks guys.  I was counting on that.   I also thought if you ate brains you were a zombie.  So does that mean that zombies get high when they get a hold of some good brains.  If you aren't already a zombie and you eat the brains, do you then become a zombie, or better yet a zombie that is high?  I just need some clarification going forward on this one... :

[EraPassing]

No, you don't have to be a zombie to eat brains.
I chomp on Rog's head all the time, and not one zombie bone in my body.
To be fair, though, Rog's head is incredibly yummy.

[B_M_W]

::Steals Rog's head from Era::

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNnnnnnnumy!

[agent compassion]

I also thought if you ate brains you were a zombie. So does that mean that zombies get high when they get a hold of some good brains. If you aren't already a zombie and you eat the brains, do you then become a zombie, or better yet a zombie that is high? I just need some clarification going forward on this one... Question

I'm definitely not a zombie. I was just wondering what would happen if I ate Horab's brain. I'm still coming down.