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Started by Anonymous, January 20, 2005, 12:33:58 AM

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Bella

#660
February 26, 2005, 04:03:41 PM
This is the kind of stuff that makes me so ashamed of us.
just like in a dream
you'll open your mouth to scream
and you won't make a sound

you can't believe your eyes
you can't believe your ears
you can't believe your friends
you can't believe you're here

agent compassion

#661
February 26, 2005, 06:01:15 PM
"No one who wants to be President should be allowed to run for the job." - I forgot who said it.

'I'll take you out for a meal with Mr. and Mrs. Pain, order up some violent quiche. Do you want some?' - ++++++ Moon

The Good Reverend Roger

#662
February 26, 2005, 06:02:41 PM
Quote from: Pope T.Mangrove xviiWas this the famous terror plot that was uncovered in NY?
(Lackawanna?....did i spell that right?)

The terror plot which was splashed all over the news complete with big Bushy speech about how they're winning?

The same terror plot that was found to be non-existent and the people found innocent and let go without so much as a murmur?

Just checking.

We've had hundreds of terror related arrests in the UK. Only 4 convictions, those relating to things like possession of illegal literature rather than any actual plots and ZERO al-qaeda. That's right. ZIP. NADA. Not a sausage.

Just saying.

STOP HATING FREEDOM!
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" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Malaul

#663
February 26, 2005, 06:35:32 PM
yeah
ya spelled it right
I live lik 30 minutes from tehre
that was an interesting story
heard about it everywhere
then












silence
Coito ergo sum
O! Plus! Perge! Aio! Hui! Hem!
"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy,the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named Bush, Dick, and Colon.  --Comedian Chris Rock

The Good Reverend Roger

#664
February 26, 2005, 06:38:36 PM
Quote from: Malaulyeah
ya spelled it right
I live lik 30 minutes from tehre
that was an interesting story
heard about it everywhere
then












silence


Similar to many, many triumphant cries of "We found WMDs!" on the news...followed by...silence (as the "anthrax" turned out to be flour, tide detergent, etc).
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mangrove

#665
February 26, 2005, 11:27:30 PM
Glad I spelled the place correctly....not that anyone gives a damn about spelling on this forum.

There was another major arrest/stony silence event that I heard about, around about the same time as the NY fiasco. Chicago? Detroit?

If there is any justice, the BBC series 'The Power Of Nightmares' will be shown in the US or come out on DVD and you can see the <ahem> evidence these poor schmucks were arrested on. If you can get to see this, it's very good. I doubt if it'll do anything other than confirm what you already know, but it is a good 3 hours of 'omg how stupid are we?' tv.

oops...sorry...got all political there....quick, someone channel Bill Hicks to do some dick jokes and dig me out of the comedy blackhole I've dug for myself.....
What makes it so? Making it so is what makes it so.

Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell

#666
February 27, 2005, 12:02:26 AM
Quote from: agent compassion"No one who wants to be President should be allowed to run for the job." - I forgot who said it.

I think it was Bokonon but I'm not sure.
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Voice of Truth

#667
February 28, 2005, 11:00:23 PM
"In the fall of 2002 Arar, a Canadian citizen, suddenly found himself caught up in the CRUEL MOCKERY OF JUSTICE THAT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAS SUBSTITUTED FOR THE RULE OF LAW in the post-Sept. 11 world. "

You know, I just thought I'd say this was awesome.  This from a news article you bust out and then over in the Messiah forums you say my news article is bs because of the sources.  No bias in this one though, right. :roll:

Awesome stuff there, Gnimbley.  As for the Saudi guy, it's a developing story so I don't see how you or anyone else can rush to judgment without knowing all the facts, but then again you guys do that in reference to the Bush administration all the time so why should I be surprised...
Such pain I feel for not being a Discordian...

Cain

#668
February 28, 2005, 11:02:21 PM
Welcome back to the thread that just can't die!

The Good Reverend Roger

#669
February 28, 2005, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Voice of Truth"In the fall of 2002 Arar, a Canadian citizen, suddenly found himself caught up in the CRUEL MOCKERY OF JUSTICE THAT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAS SUBSTITUTED FOR THE RULE OF LAW in the post-Sept. 11 world. "

You know, I just thought I'd say this was awesome.  This from a news article you bust out and then over in the Messiah forums you say my news article is bs because of the sources.  No bias in this one though, right. :roll:

Awesome stuff there, Gnimbley.  As for the Saudi guy, it's a developing story so I don't see how you or anyone else can rush to judgment without knowing all the facts, but then again you guys do that in reference to the Bush administration all the time so why should I be surprised...

He's Syrian.  He was deported to Syria, despite the fact that he was a Canadian citizen.

Why do you try so hard to defend the undefendable?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

gnimbley

#670
February 28, 2005, 11:58:58 PM
I'm just doing my duty as an anti-American! Bringing balance to the
world!

Guess you didn't bother to read the two articles from
Newsweek or glance at the Google News link.

Quote one sentence and your enemy collapses, gasping for breath
due to the onslaught of devasting conservative logic.

Okay, now change the subject. Go on. You know you want to.
Or is it now time to deploy that devasting "you guys misuderstood
what I said" or the ever popular "You are all so biased it is a wonder
why I even bother."

BTW, I didn't say this article was unbiased. Also, I didn't say your
Fox News article was biased because of its sources. I said that the Fox
article did not prove your point because it did not contain a balanced
examination of the issue nor did it seem to contain any independent
verification of the assertions made by the parties quoted. (It
contained no journalism, I think was my specific charge.) You presented
this one sided argument as proof.

I did not assert that the events cited by Fox never happened or that the
people were incorrectly quoted. What I challenged was the logic of the
proof that you presented. You used circular reasoning to prove your argument:
Syria is a bad country Why: because the people calling Syria a bad country
are calling it a bad country. In philosophy they call this a tautology,
I believe, and it is a common fallacy. Ranks you there with appeal to
authority for abuse.

Another fallacy is to attempt to win an argument by failing to address the
other party's argument, instead setting up a straw man to knock down.
I argued that you did not prove your point and you countered that I said
the article was biased and proved you were right by demonstrating that
I quoted from a biased article myself, thereby changing the focus of the
argument from what you originally asserted to something completely
different. Congratulations. You are now a politician. Rape and pillage
at leisure.

Voice of Truth

#671
March 01, 2005, 12:03:02 AM
"did not contain a balanced examination of the issue "

Call me crazy, Gnimbley, but this DOES sound like a charge of bias to me.  And no I didn't read the other two articles yet.  I am a busy man what with stealing from work to post on these forums and all and links to articles always annoy me so I check out maybe one or two and that's it.  Shit, man...
Such pain I feel for not being a Discordian...

gnimbley

#672
March 01, 2005, 12:12:12 AM
Quote from: Voice of Truth"did not contain a balanced examination of the issue "

Call me crazy, Gnimbley, but this DOES sound like a charge of bias to me.  And no I didn't read the other two articles yet.  I am a busy man what with stealing from work to post on these forums and all and links to articles always annoy me so I check out maybe one or two and that's it.  Shit, man...


DAMN IT VoT. CAN'T YOU READ? THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION!


Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I feel better now I really do.

But what do you do with people who can not carry on a rational
argument? Damn, BIAS WAS NOT THE ISSUE. The issue
was proof. Did the article PROVE your assertion? No. Bias
was IRRELEVANT!

I think I need to get some wine. Excuse me. I may be back tonight.
I may not.

Horab Fibslager

#673
March 01, 2005, 12:40:06 AM
Quote from: gnimbley
Quote from: Voice of Truth"did not contain a balanced examination of the issue "

Call me crazy, Gnimbley, but this DOES sound like a charge of bias to me.  And no I didn't read the other two articles yet.  I am a busy man what with stealing from work to post on these forums and all and links to articles always annoy me so I check out maybe one or two and that's it.  Shit, man...


DAMN IT VoT. CAN'T YOU READ? THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION!


Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I feel better now I really do.

But what do you do with people who can not carry on a rational
argument? Damn, BIAS WAS NOT THE ISSUE. The issue
was proof. Did the article PROVE your assertion? No. Bias
was IRRELEVANT!

I think I need to get some wine. Excuse me. I may be back tonight.
I may not.

gnimbly is ina bad mood. my proof:

Quotelatest reports when analyzed and quanitified, seem to probaly indicate that he may, probaly, or at least soemwhatlikely be pissed. we also think based on a wide array of assumptions and half guesses, that ioawa may be constructing and manufacturign avian flu, by which it will usuarup the godly office of best chicken in the univrse. or such.
Hell is other people.

chaosgraves:agentoferis

#674
March 01, 2005, 11:45:43 AM
VoT's not staying to topic?
imagine that.
Constitution?!?!? Isn't that a D&D stat.
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