Soccer moms can blow me.

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note: taken from some other forum, the sentiments are shared and copy/pasting took less time than typing out a rant that would've been almost exactly the same.


Did you know that there is a growing threat to society and the world as we know it? A group so dangerous that it threatens not only the rights given to us by the constitution but also the livelihood of our children? This cataclysmic force is the infamous soccer mom. Her attempts to avoid the responsibilities of parenthood have threatened everything that we as Americans, NO!, as humans, have sought so long to preserve.

Soccer moms have resorted to drastic measures to control their children while avoiding the simple solution, discipline. Moms who fail to discipline their child reinforce the child,Äôs negative behavior. In a recent visit to the park, I noticed a child knock down another child and take his toy. When his mother was confronted, she refused to believe it. ,ÄúNot my son! He,Äôs a perfect little angel.,Äù Later, when he did something similar directly in her view, she maintained her illusion, ,ÄúHe,Äôs to Na?Øve. He doesn,Äôt know what he,Äôs doing.,Äù The child then came up to his mother, ,ÄúMommy, can I have some ice cream?,Äù ,ÄúIt,Äôs too close to dinner, you,Äôll spoil your appetite.,Äù ,ÄúBut daddy would get me ice cream.,Äù ,Äúwell, I guess we can stop at Baskin Robbins on the way home.,Äù Soccer moms who let their child always get their way leave them ill prepared to deal with the harsh realities of the world around them later in life. In the real world, you won,Äôt always get what you want, and you,Äôll be able to deal with it better if you have experience from your childhood.

Mothers have tried to find an ,Äúeasy way,Äù to control their children. The son of one of my neighboring soccer moms, eight year old Nathan, takes three doses of ,ÄúVitamin R,Äù everyday, one before each meal. Ritalin is used to control the supposed attention deficit hyperactivity disorder which is characterized as a short attention span. Soccer moms are relieved to discover that their child has ADHD because it gives them an excuse for their child,Äôs poor grades in school and terrible behavior. I often find myself wondering, could it be that ADHD is really just CTD, childlike tendency disorder? Symptoms are pretty much the same, near constant running and skipping, spontaneous bursts of song and shouting, poor impulse control with regard to sugared snacks. These moms use ADHD to avoid responsibility, ,Äúoh my son knocked over that fragile clock? Im soo sorry, I cant seem to control him ever since he was diagnosed with ADHD.,Äù A class action suit has been brought against the manufacturers of Ritalin. The charge? They conspired with the American Psychiatric Association in order to make the definition of ADHD so broad that it could be applied to almost anyone. Moms buy into the hype because they are ready to listen to anyone who will tell them that ,ÄúPoor parenting is not to blame, OH NO!, the child just has a physical ailment, Isn,Äôt that a relief?,Äù

Another place soccer moms have turned to for advice on how to raise their kids is the television, as members of what I have deemed ,ÄúOprah,Äôs army,Äù. One of Oprah,Äôs minions, Dr. Phil, has a philosophy show watched by millions of mothers each day. They just follow his generic advice and raise robots, and no the good kind of robots with laser cannons that destroy,Ķ Er,Ķ save the world, but conformist robots with no personalities. I believe that every child is unique. What works for one child may not be the best solution for another. Mothers need to realize that they should encourage individuality in their children, not stifle it.

Soccer moms have a responsibility to raise their child to be a functioning member of our society. They need to realize that there is no easy way to raise a child, and it will require a little pain along the way, for the child and the parent. Thank you.

[agent compassion]

RAH!  

[Hoshiko]

Warning: This post full of gross generalizations.

I was always under the impression that the moms taking their kids to soccer and to the doctor and to fill their prescriptions actually gave a damn in some small way and were therefore good parents.

Unlike the mothers slapping their kids in the Walmart for "dicipline", or those who leave their kids at home alone while they go out and party, or those who set unrealistic expectations that their kids will never, ever reach. Even those parents sometimes have wonderful, well-adjusted kids. It's a crap shoot.

Adults are spoiled now-a-days, not because they got ice cream before dinner, but because there's the tendency to blame any abberation in their childhood for their fuck-ups later on. At what point do you stop blaming your childhood for your problems in life and society? No one has a perfect childhood.

Ritalin is very much over-used. So are anti-depressants and cough syrups and potato chips. There are no flawless parents, only adequate ones. Those sometimes have serial killers for children. It's easy to judge other's choices. Let's go after the crackheads and the child abusers before we sacrifice the soccer moms, eh?

In closing,  

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.

Hoshiko, who had above-average parents but a rough childhood.

P.S. I've seen one Dr. Phil show in my entire life. It was about mothers who had children on ritalin, the over-diagnosis of ADHD, and why and how they should try behavior modification (aka dicipline) first. What an evil man.

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Soccer Mom is the general term for mothers who spend all their time trying to get people like Howard Stern taken off the air so he can't damage their kds psyche, instead of teaching them right from wrong themselves. They're the reason bullshit organizations like the FCC exist.

Watch out ladies, it's the first amendment! stand your ground, maybe it'll go away.


further more, they're also the reason that discipline is frowned upon. no kid is going to behave if you just give them a time out. kids learn how to behave when they're given a reason to do so. but now, we're more content to give them drugs and leave it at that. 30 years from now, the entire nation is going to filled with pussies who think children should be alowed kill the family cat.

prove it to your kids that you love them, beat their asses when the do something wrong.


ADHD? ADHD my ass. theres no such thing as ADHD, it's just a way for drug companies to make money off of normal child behavior.



and the soccer moms buy into it all. like I said before, Soccer moms suck.

[Cain]

I once knew a kid who was "hyperactive".  His parents gave him a TV rather than spend the money on the drugs.  Kept me up until 3am during the exam season, not a good thing to do.  

Back on topic, there does seem to be a culture of letting the state do everything for you.  My mum is a school teacher and she has some horror stories, kids coming in with no idea of manners is just one of the examples I can think of, another being a parent who signed her kids up to all the afterschool clubs as soon as they started there, simply because she wanted them out of her hair more (she was unemployed btw, perfectly able of picking them up too).

[Hoshiko]

Now you're just trolling. My parents never "beat my ass". If they had I would've probably rebelled like crazy and burned my little golden books.

Instead I am the well-adjusted specimen you see before you.

Uh...

I'm saying, we live in an easy society. Of course we're mostly weenies. It has nothing to do with "soccer moms", which I've always heard used as a term for SUV-driving-making-dinner-by-7-and-have-10,000-errands-to run-before-then-and-I-live-for-my-kids-and-the-neighbor's-approval-and-have-no-interests-of-my-own-mom. The FCC has nothing to do with it, that's a symptom of a puritanical christian country and it's views on what everybody should be entertained by. The fact that these moms support such a thing is their own damn business, even if they're only doing it because everybody else in the PTA is.

Did your mom not buy you that Lite Brite you wanted? Is that what this is all about?

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I'm trolling my own topic, yeah...that makes sense.


These people who don't spank their children are full of crap. spanking a kid will get the idea through their head that they shouldn't do that. sitting them down in a chair and telling them why they shouldn't do that wont. my parents spanked me, and it didn't take me very long to not do that anymore.

now I see that your definition of soccer mom is wrong, please refer to this.
Soccer Mom: n
A usually white, middle-classed woman. She drives an SUV. Her kids are her "little angels" and are more important than anything or anyone else in the world and deserve to play game demos or do anything else more than everyone. She doesn't let her "little angels" watch TV with "naughty words" such as crap, pussywillow, and pants. Her kids aren't allowed to go on the internet because it's all about sex, raping little children, buying useless crap, and getting scammed. She strictly enforces the ESRB ratings systems; by that I mean makes up her own: EC = 10 and under, E = 11 and up, T and above = "Not in my house" (Movies: PG and under = Only movies you can see). Anything that doesn't say they're Christian is automatically Satanic; this includes 99.998% of music. Her children participate in as many after-school activities as possible and are usually at day camp during the summer.

Soccer moms are usually seen screaming at people, getting into car accidents, and breaking copies of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City and refusing to pay for them.

or an alternate definition which is just as adequate.

Soccer Mom: n
A middle-aged upper middle class woman (ussually white)and lives in the suburbs who devotes her life to her childeren. She carpools, drives them to soccer and little leauge, volenteers at their school, does snack days, and play dates. Most of them end up driving their childeren away by not letting them express their selves and immediatley putting down anything that they find important. They are usually Christian and this can be shown around their house, in most of the cases I have found the childeren end up being atheist. They drive in their mini vans and suburbans with their fancy coffee's and cell phones.

and I think the fact that I had to look up what a lite-bright was should awnser your last question.

[Bob the Mediocre]

My parents never spanked me, and I turned out appalingly normal. I think the rant you copied had a few good points though, but now I need to get to class. Be back.

[Wishfarple]

Soccer moms can blow me.

Mmmm . . . yes, please!

[DJRubberducky]

Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.

But one of many reasons I won't.

[Hoshiko]

You might have been trolling with your topic, stranger things have happened.

But it doesn't matter anyway.

Your second definition is practically the same as my own, although you seem to think that every single soccer mom is christian and hates dicipline. Not true, there are soccer moms who dicipline and push their kids harder than necessary. Remember that the point of being a soccer mom is to raise kids who reflect well on you, because they're only an extension of you anyway.

People who don't spank their kids aren't full of crap, they're perfectly capable of raising a child with limits. I think it's lovely how you want everyone to spank their kids no matter what. Besides, there are soccer moms who spank and their kids are still misbehaved.

What works for one child may not be the best solution for another. Mothers need to realize that they should encourage individuality in their children, not stifle it.

By spanking the hell out of them. That'll teach them to find their individuality by making mistakes!

I don't love soccer moms, and I think they're a misguided group as a whole. But I've seen some really, really apathetic parents who treat their dogs better than their kids. I fail to see how being a christian mom concerned with words like "crap" is worse than this.

There are bigger threats to society. As a whole, soccer moms are bland in almost every aspect, but not really that bad.

[Cain]

I thought the spanking kids thing was a Maddox quote?

[Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell]

Spanking kids is not cool. If you think it is, I'd like to randomly go up to you and beat the shit out of you just because I disprove of your behaviour, and see how you like it. How about instead of treating your kids like property, you treat them like the human beings they are?

But that rant does have some good points. "ADHD" is fucking bullshit, and a disturbing trend. Pretty soon we'll be diagnosed with "Rebellious Attitude Syndrome" or "Non-Conformity Disorder", etc. Maybe children would calm down if they weren't getting intoxicated on sugar three meals a day? It'd be like corporations made heroin not only accessible but ubiquitous (not that I,Äòd complain) and parents complaining about their kids being emaciated and how they're vomiting all the time as they pour milk on their ,ÄúSkaggios,Äù for them. Not to say that ADD and ADHD don,Äôt exist, but using the term so liberally cheapens it for people that actually suffer from the disorder.

I agree with Water-Soluble Goldfish.  The FCC has little to do with the sport of soccer or any sexist stereotypes that are derivative of it, but is rather Greyfaces trying to for their archaic ethics on the rest of us with little regard for our civil liberties.

[Zurtok Khan]

I tend to agree with Hos =)

Well, except on the point that ADHD doesn't exist.  I think it does, but only in about .5% of the people diagnosed with it.  Certainly not in the amazing large amount of children who are said to have it.

Having gone to highschool in Utah (gag), I've seen alot of what Hos is talking about, but also what Goldy is talking about.  Most parents seem to either be unbelievably controling here or don't care enough about their children, just how their children make them look.

Example:  My friend Kat (in her senior year of HS) has mentally abusive parents.  They'd never hit her of course.  What would the neighbors say?  They like to tell her how she is bad because she doesn't like going to church (Goddess, I hate mormons...most of the time), and argues with them about it.  The like to do all sorts of nasty things to control her.  Not that they work very well when she has friends like me.  Her mom is pretty much what you'd call a soccer mom, wants her kids to be invovled in 18 million things at school, and absolutely *everything* that goes on at church.  Because if you're not involved at church...well you're going striaght to hell.  I scare Kat's parents because I'm not *gasp* mormon.  They think I'm a satanist.  Of course, I like Satan, but he's not really my thing.

Example 2: My friend Abbey.  Abbey's parents control everything she does.  She's 19 now, but she can't choose to go on a night out, she has to ask her mother automatically, then she has to beg to be able to do something, extend curfew because you want to go see a movie?  I think not!  Abbey even had to fight with her parents to be in (perfectly respectable) school plays when we were in HS.  Abbey's mom is the oppisite of a Soccer mom.  She hates her children doing anything.  Anything at all.  

Well I don't remember what my point was.  I geuss just that from my experiance here in the Moral Abyss, few parents (like mine, thank goddess), get it right.  Most are either too afraid to let their children do what they want, or to disapline them.  I fear the day when my generation takes over politics.  That'll be scary.

Goldy, dear, I do think that spanking children can be a useful thing, in the right situation.  My neice (she's 3) needs a spanking every once in awhile.  Just 2 or 3 swift taps on the behind usually puts her in line.  But we need to do it maybe 1 a month, usually not even that often.  It is a useful punishment.

Mostly I think you need a good balence of freedom and restrictions.  And it should definately be age appropriate.  Telling a 14 year old to be home at 10pm is cool, but telling a 17 year old that is bullshit.

Wow, I've typed alot.  I'm sorry I made you read my bullshit.

[DJRubberducky]

Goldy, dear, I do think that spanking children can be a useful thing, in the right situation.

I think it's sad that Labrador Retrievers are often compared to toddlers in terms of intellectual capacity, and it's only socially acceptable to use corporal discipline on one and not the other.

I don't believe in swatting them for every little thing, but you can bet your paddled ass that if I were to breed, and my podlings attempted to leave my side and run into the street, they would learn that doing so is immediately unpleasant on several levels.