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DRUGS
« on: July 02, 2019, 05:33:31 am »
Modest Proposal: Drugs are a tool of The Machine, and ergo, Rich White Guys in Suits(tm), to scam money from the poor.

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Re: DRUGS
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2019, 12:29:42 pm »
Kind of hard to argue with that when the opioid epidemic is being directly fueled by the medical industry and taxed by the gov.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2019, 12:52:36 pm »

Depending on what definition of "drugs" you utilize, your argument can be strong or situated in wackjob territory.
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Re: DRUGS
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2019, 01:00:37 pm »
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Re: DRUGS
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2019, 01:20:00 pm »
Kind of hard to argue with that when the opioid epidemic is being directly fueled by the medical industry and taxed by the gov.

Right?


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Re: DRUGS
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2019, 01:24:05 pm »

Depending on what definition of "drugs" you utilize, your argument can be strong or situated in wackjob territory.

Whatever definition you want. The power balance is the rich get richer while the poor get poorer.

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2019, 01:48:16 pm »

Depending on what definition of "drugs" you utilize, your argument can be strong or situated in wackjob territory.

Whatever definition you want. The power balance is the rich get richer while the poor get poorer.

Ok, so surgery anesthesia, heart medication, anti-psychotics and anti-biotics = BAD?
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Re: DRUGS
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2019, 06:34:55 pm »
Drugs are good. I believe every molecule has the right to exist. If someone can trick you to OD on potatoes without suffering major consequenses  for taking too much immorality you MAY have deserved it.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2019, 07:22:03 pm »
I believe every molecule has the right to exist.

(RS)-Propan-2-yl methylphosphonofluoridate.

Sarin.
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2019, 08:30:49 pm »
Sarin.
Even prions have NOAEL, our biology is just noninclusive.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2019, 08:56:31 pm »
Sarin.
Even prions have NOAEL, our biology is just noninclusive.
Sarin is a synthetic molecule, which is used in chemical warfare.  It does not appear to occur in nature, nor does it appear to have any use other than killing people horribly.

Do you believe that this molecule, Sarin, has a right to exist?
"When I say 'engineering', I have unreasonable expectations.  It must - as you know - look good in PADS AND give you plenty of help ducking and weaving in meetings.  But it must also, at some distant point in time, function.  If it does not, then you must accept that you are not in fact an engineer but instead an MBA.  Hang your head in SHAME, sinner!"

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Re: DRUGS
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2019, 01:02:15 am »
Sarin.
Even prions have NOAEL, our biology is just noninclusive.
Sarin is a synthetic molecule, which is used in chemical warfare.  It does not appear to occur in nature, nor does it appear to have any use other than killing people horribly.

Do you believe that this molecule, Sarin, has a right to exist?

It's just gunpowder that people get squeamish about.
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2019, 03:27:03 am »
Sarin.
Even prions have NOAEL, our biology is just noninclusive.
Sarin is a synthetic molecule, which is used in chemical warfare.  It does not appear to occur in nature, nor does it appear to have any use other than killing people horribly.

Do you believe that this molecule, Sarin, has a right to exist?
Well at least Sarin knows what they want to do when they grow up.
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2019, 04:37:51 am »
Well at least Sarin knows what they want to do when they grow up.
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Well, that was lame.  By being noncommittal, you've left me with reason to believe that you condone the production of chemical weapons.

There were at least five different responses you could have gone with:

1.  Admitting your statement that "every molecule has the right to exist" may have not been entirely correct.
2.  Declaring that sarin does, in fact, have a right to exist, and that it is our moral obligation to produce it.
3.  Accusing me of taking your sentence out of context, and then restating your post in a form that wasn't easily dismissed.  I'd be annoyed by this one, but I likely wouldn't belabor the point.
4.  Replying with something off-topic, funny, clever, and/or outrageously stupid.
"When I say 'engineering', I have unreasonable expectations.  It must - as you know - look good in PADS AND give you plenty of help ducking and weaving in meetings.  But it must also, at some distant point in time, function.  If it does not, then you must accept that you are not in fact an engineer but instead an MBA.  Hang your head in SHAME, sinner!"

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Re: DRUGS
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2019, 09:10:58 am »
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Why would I want to fit into your frame of valid answers? I bet you have already built heurestics to counter each of the 4 options you presented. That discussion would've been terminally boring, as we've both wandered down that path.

Anyways, what makes Sarin dangerous is that they are kept locked in containers and they become angry and never evolve into less harmful substances. Saying Sarin is bad is like saying strong interaction is bad because it can kill people.

I'm not sure what you are arguing, but you are wrong and you smell.
Very painful to get rid of, why even bother.