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Started by The Wizard Joseph, February 29, 2020, 03:39:29 PM

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Juana

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The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: cigarki spiritual on April 16, 2020, 06:55:12 PM
I've found this website to be really interesting - it allows comparing the curves of diferent countries. The curve for Bulgaria has been quite strange in comparison to our neighbours so I'm currently trying to get to the bottom of why that is the case. Might spend the next couple of days comparing the curves of different countries and taking into account various factors such as tuberculosis vaccine (currently the theory of why ex soviet states are getting hit less hard), press freedom and overall type of regime (to see to what extent the data just reflects strategies of obfuscation by governments) and everything else I can think of, so that I can get a better idea of what the actual situation is. Probably best done with a neural network, but I don't know where to start with one so good old Social Science bachelor's methods are the best I have.

https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/

I'm very interested in the website. The graphic is clear and shows the US WAY out in the lead... lucky US.

I'm unsure of the effectiveness of TB vaccine because TB is bacterial and this is a retrovirus, but but I hope so, somehow.

THe Chinese used straight up gestapo tactics testing folks for even a mild fever and putting them, and the whole household, into quarantine concentration camp "hospitals". Then they check their social networkdata on you and test everyone you may have interacted with. I can't even be mad at them, even as I watched vid of building doors getting welded shut consigning folks to a nasty death in the name of containment. I do not TRUST China's numbers, nor Russia's, nor really the US. South Korea is what I look to as a model of responsible reporting and action right now.
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The Wizard Joseph

Just a note that altered pointed out to me that I have been misusing the word retrovirus. This coronavirus is an RNA envelope virus and I was well aware of that, but I mistook Retovirus to mean all RNA viruses, but it is a specific sort of RNA virus and coronaviruses are not in that family. My bad.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2020, 11:58:10 PM
I'm very interested in the website. The graphic is clear and shows the US WAY out in the lead... lucky US.

*snip*

Not even an also ran, mate. Per capita we're more than double your paltry efforts :argh!:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 17, 2020, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2020, 11:58:10 PM
I'm very interested in the website. The graphic is clear and shows the US WAY out in the lead... lucky US.

*snip*

Not even an also ran, mate. Per capita we're more than double your paltry efforts :argh!:

Look you wanna talk numbers? You wanna talk numbers and you want them to be right numbers. I've seen them. I've seen the big numbers. The not so big numbers. Some of it is amazing. These numbers are doing incredible thinks while I think them. Sometimes. you gotta sometimes put the not-so good numbers to the side. You just got to do better. But who has the time right? So you take the numbers you can trust from not the fake media,because they're not honest. You don't get the numbers there. You just give them to the people. People will know. People understand numbers better, I think, than the media and even, let's be honest, some medical people.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 17, 2020, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 17, 2020, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2020, 11:58:10 PM
I'm very interested in the website. The graphic is clear and shows the US WAY out in the lead... lucky US.

*snip*

Not even an also ran, mate. Per capita we're more than double your paltry efforts :argh!:

Look you wanna talk numbers? You wanna talk numbers and you want them to be right numbers. I've seen them. I've seen the big numbers. The not so big numbers. Some of it is amazing. These numbers are doing incredible thinks while I think them. Sometimes. you gotta sometimes put the not-so good numbers to the side. You just got to do better. But who has the time right? So you take the numbers you can trust from not the fake media,because they're not honest. You don't get the numbers there. You just give them to the people. People will know. People understand numbers better, I think, than the media and even, let's be honest, some medical people.


:spit:

Wait, you're the donald's speech writer? Whose side you on?  :argh!:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 17, 2020, 09:44:51 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 17, 2020, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 17, 2020, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2020, 11:58:10 PM
I'm very interested in the website. The graphic is clear and shows the US WAY out in the lead... lucky US.

*snip*

Not even an also ran, mate. Per capita we're more than double your paltry efforts :argh!:

Look you wanna talk numbers? You wanna talk numbers and you want them to be right numbers. I've seen them. I've seen the big numbers. The not so big numbers. Some of it is amazing. These numbers are doing incredible thinks while I think them. Sometimes. you gotta sometimes put the not-so good numbers to the side. You just got to do better. But who has the time right? So you take the numbers you can trust from not the fake media,because they're not honest. You don't get the numbers there. You just give them to the people. People will know. People understand numbers better, I think, than the media and even, let's be honest, some medical people.


:spit:

Wait, you're the donald's speech writer? Whose side you on?  :argh!:

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Let's just say that Donnie can't afford me, but I could probably replace half of his speech writers and political "advisors" and nobody would notice. I've been working on imitating him for years in secret, mostly because nobody wants to hear me imitate his linguistic "fist". People on the right tend to think I'm mocking their messiah, or just absorb and parrot it. People on the left tend to rage quit VERY quickly. I just couldn't help myself this time.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

P3nT4gR4m

If you're pissing off the left and the right, I call that "The Sweet Spot"

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 17, 2020, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 17, 2020, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2020, 11:58:10 PM
I'm very interested in the website. The graphic is clear and shows the US WAY out in the lead... lucky US.

*snip*

Not even an also ran, mate. Per capita we're more than double your paltry efforts :argh!:

Look you wanna talk numbers? You wanna talk numbers and you want them to be right numbers. I've seen them. I've seen the big numbers. The not so big numbers. Some of it is amazing. These numbers are doing incredible thinks while I think them. Sometimes. you gotta sometimes put the not-so good numbers to the side. You just got to do better. But who has the time right? So you take the numbers you can trust from not the fake media,because they're not honest. You don't get the numbers there. You just give them to the people. People will know. People understand numbers better, I think, than the media and even, let's be honest, some medical people.

:mittens:

People are talking about this.
Molon Lube

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 18, 2020, 12:31:46 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 17, 2020, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 17, 2020, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2020, 11:58:10 PM
I'm very interested in the website. The graphic is clear and shows the US WAY out in the lead... lucky US.

*snip*

Not even an also ran, mate. Per capita we're more than double your paltry efforts :argh!:

Look you wanna talk numbers? You wanna talk numbers and you want them to be right numbers. I've seen them. I've seen the big numbers. The not so big numbers. Some of it is amazing. These numbers are doing incredible thinks while I think them. Sometimes. you gotta sometimes put the not-so good numbers to the side. You just got to do better. But who has the time right? So you take the numbers you can trust from not the fake media,because they're not honest. You don't get the numbers there. You just give them to the people. People will know. People understand numbers better, I think, than the media and even, let's be honest, some medical people.

:mittens:

People are talking about this.

:lol: Aw shit my cover is blown! Goddamnit when will I learn to KYFMS?
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Doktor Howl

Molon Lube

Cramulus

Here's some interesting data. It's a US-State-by-State breakdown of how fast the virus is spreading.

https://rt.live/

draw your own conclusions  :p

Juana

I'd want to see data wrt which states are really ramping up testing - I know my county has been doing a bunch more tho our death count is holding steady at 7 (for about a 2% mortality rate) over the last three days or so.
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Suu

Yes, the Florida beaches are open. But those pictures and videos you see of it being loaded with people? Stock images. From Getty Images.

I live in Atlantic Beach, just north of Jacksonville Beach. Those crowds don't exist. Nobody I know between all three beaches has seen them, and the same image of the "walking dead" so to speak on the beach, was also used for LA County. The more I look at it, the more it looks like sagebrush in the background. That's not Jax Beach, Jax Beach has high rises and parking lots. That's a SoCal beach, from whenever the fuck it was taken.

The fucking Sunshine Laws have given the world the gift of entertainment, but I guess when Florida Man doesn't actually provide, the media has to get clicks somehow.

I'll go out there on Tuesday when I'm in the town center for therapy, and take a look for myself.
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I'm also guessing that most of the major newstations's camera people are actually practicing social distancing, if they're even working at all, and probably didn't want to go to what sounded like Infection Beach.