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Re: Impotent Rant in F (for "futility") Minor
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2020, 10:11:18 pm »
I am also unconvinced that the accelerationists are any different than the MAGA freaks.  They both wish to cause harm to the very few humans I don't hate, and therefore I hate them and will cause them harm at any possible opportunity.  And I don't care why.

You're right insofaras harm would befall the wrong people either way, but whereas for the MAGA freaks, the harm is the ultimate goal and therefore will be encouraged and they will personally engage in worsening it and wielding the State as a weapon to enforce it, the accelerationists see the harm as both inevitable and already an extant reality and are likely to personally engage in mitigating it on a peer-to-peer level and disrupting the State's ability to enforce it.

You yourself are an accelerationist in that respect, judging by your stated position that what we're seeing now is "the rattle of pebbles preceding the landslide that we are smack in the path of." It isn't a matter of whether we can avoid catastrophe, but how long we can put it off. Whether the full force of the disaster befalls the people you know personally or their children is immaterial.
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Re: Impotent Rant in F (for "futility") Minor
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2020, 10:23:31 pm »
For my part
I prefer
Mitigation
over some silly
Acceleration
of the oncoming
inevitable
calamity.
Why rush things?
There is no gain
in playing that game.
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Re: Impotent Rant in F (for "futility") Minor
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2020, 10:37:42 pm »
For my part
I prefer
Mitigation
over some silly
Acceleration
of the oncoming
inevitable
calamity.
Why rush things?
There is no gain
in playing that game.

It's a character flaw. I also always read the last page of the book first.
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Re: Impotent Rant in F (for "futility") Minor
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2020, 11:06:43 pm »
I am also unconvinced that the accelerationists are any different than the MAGA freaks.  They both wish to cause harm to the very few humans I don't hate, and therefore I hate them and will cause them harm at any possible opportunity.  And I don't care why.

You're right insofaras harm would befall the wrong people either way, but whereas for the MAGA freaks, the harm is the ultimate goal and therefore will be encouraged and they will personally engage in worsening it and wielding the State as a weapon to enforce it, the accelerationists see the harm as both inevitable and already an extant reality and are likely to personally engage in mitigating it on a peer-to-peer level and disrupting the State's ability to enforce it.

You yourself are an accelerationist in that respect, judging by your stated position that what we're seeing now is "the rattle of pebbles preceding the landslide that we are smack in the path of." It isn't a matter of whether we can avoid catastrophe, but how long we can put it off. Whether the full force of the disaster befalls the people you know personally or their children is immaterial.

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Re: Impotent Rant in F (for "futility") Minor
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2020, 11:25:34 pm »
Accelerationism is a fucking stupid idea for a reason I haven’t seen mentioned:

There is no time for mitigation of the damage if you see the ceiling is caving in slowly, so you cut the fucking center beam.

Mitigation requires planning and forethought. Acceleration says “fuck that, the roof is going down anyway so let’s just get it over with” before you have a chance to move people out of the way.

That’s fucking stupid. I do not respect it.

In the roof collapse analogy, I’m blind and have busted legs. If no one helps me get out it’s quite likely over. I’m lucky: I can hear what’s going on and crawl short distances if I have to. Others do not have these luxuries.

Accelerationism speaks in the same language that gives us “acceptable losses”. The same language that acts like some human lives are worth more or less than others. Accelerationism is eugenics and social Darwinism in action even if not in intent, because it is “shoot them all and let God sort it out.” It is burning the village to save it.

Don’t be an accelerationist.
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Re: Impotent Rant in F (for "futility") Minor
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2020, 11:42:55 pm »
Accelerationism is a fucking stupid idea for a reason I haven’t seen mentioned:

There is no time for mitigation of the damage if you see the ceiling is caving in slowly, so you cut the fucking center beam.

Mitigation requires planning and forethought. Acceleration says “fuck that, the roof is going down anyway so let’s just get it over with” before you have a chance to move people out of the way.

That’s fucking stupid. I do not respect it.

In the roof collapse analogy, I’m blind and have busted legs. If no one helps me get out it’s quite likely over. I’m lucky: I can hear what’s going on and crawl short distances if I have to. Others do not have these luxuries.

Accelerationism speaks in the same language that gives us “acceptable losses”. The same language that acts like some human lives are worth more or less than others. Accelerationism is eugenics and social Darwinism in action even if not in intent, because it is “shoot them all and let God sort it out.” It is burning the village to save it.

Don’t be an accelerationist.

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Re: Impotent Rant in F (for "futility") Minor
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2020, 11:48:58 pm »
Accelerationism is a fucking stupid idea for a reason I haven’t seen mentioned:

There is no time for mitigation of the damage if you see the ceiling is caving in slowly, so you cut the fucking center beam.

Mitigation requires planning and forethought. Acceleration says “fuck that, the roof is going down anyway so let’s just get it over with” before you have a chance to move people out of the way.

That’s fucking stupid. I do not respect it.

In the roof collapse analogy, I’m blind and have busted legs. If no one helps me get out it’s quite likely over. I’m lucky: I can hear what’s going on and crawl short distances if I have to. Others do not have these luxuries.

Accelerationism speaks in the same language that gives us “acceptable losses”. The same language that acts like some human lives are worth more or less than others. Accelerationism is eugenics and social Darwinism in action even if not in intent, because it is “shoot them all and let God sort it out.” It is burning the village to save it.

Don’t be an accelerationist.

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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2020, 12:38:49 am »
Indeed. Accelerationlism as a philosophy is designed to inflict maximal damage, in order to bring down the state entirely. Damage mitigation would be against the point of the whole thing.

Trust me, I've watched the accelerationist/XRW networking over the past two years.

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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2020, 12:46:29 am »
If you add a wheel and a handbrake to an accelerationist you can make them do donuts.
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2020, 01:09:02 am »
If you add a wheel and a handbrake to an accelerationist you can make them do donuts.

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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2020, 01:12:03 am »
Indeed. Accelerationlism as a philosophy is designed to inflict maximal damage, in order to bring down the state entirely. Damage mitigation would be against the point of the whole thing.

Trust me, I've watched the accelerationist/XRW networking over the past two years.

If you haven't already somewhere i would love a thread dedicated to your knowledge and analysis. I don't want to waste my time actually reading Land or digging for other shit in the pigpen, but a synopsis with searchable terms and concepts would do wonders for my ability to ridicule and satirize.
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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2020, 01:15:40 am »
I do love that Biden doesn't get a trial or anything on the rape accusation.

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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2020, 01:21:11 am »
I mean, that worked well during the George Takei thing.

And the timing is exquisite, and the left has a REALLY bad habit of falling for this shit.

Everyone should now kill themselves and fuck the body.  Kthx.
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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2020, 01:41:25 am »
I mean, that worked well during the George Takei thing.

And the timing is exquisite, and the left has a REALLY bad habit of falling for this shit.

Everyone should now kill themselves and fuck the body.  Kthx.

Are you speaking to a particular person or about... ? I'm a little confused about the context. I know that the Idea equivocating Trump and Biden as accused rapists and "basically the same" in other negative terms is rampant, like pretty much everywhere I've seen on social media. It's REALLY unfortunate, and ill timed. I have for some time suspected that provocateurs are promoting such divisive perspectives, but have no evidence beyond the virulence and vitrol spreading like wildfire and thinking someone must be setting the fires and fanning the flame... but frankly I don't think such is necessary to get to where things are.
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Re: Impotent Rant in F (for "futility") Minor
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2020, 01:50:08 am »
I mean, that worked well during the George Takei thing.

And the timing is exquisite, and the left has a REALLY bad habit of falling for this shit.

Everyone should now kill themselves and fuck the body.  Kthx.

Are you speaking to a particular person or about... ? I'm a little confused about the context. I know that the Idea equivocating Trump and Biden as accused rapists and "basically the same" in other negative terms is rampant, like pretty much everywhere I've seen on social media. It's REALLY unfortunate, and ill timed. I have for some time suspected that provocateurs are promoting such divisive perspectives, but have no evidence beyond the virulence and vitrol spreading like wildfire and thinking someone must be setting the fires and fanning the flame... but frankly I don't think such is necessary to get to where things are.

Biden has been accused of raping a staffer decades ago.

The left has elected to hang him without a trial.

This is why Trump will be president for life and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their short, miserable lives.
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