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Gender Neutral Spanich, etc.

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Odibex Grallspice:

--- Quote from: altered on May 04, 2020, 02:47:36 am ---I would, but I canít. I promised not to shit my pants until after I leave this state. And this is something that can only be responded to with shat pants.

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would it help if I shat 'em? :sad:

chaotic neutral observer:

--- Quote from: Odibex Grallspice on May 04, 2020, 10:45:07 am ---I call the person who delivers my dark web drugs as a "carrier", rather than what I did when I was younger, a "mailman".

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Oh, that's what you were talking about?  I thought you were starting in on moaning about how no-one is supposed to use "he" or "she" anymore.  Wasn't that Jordan Peterson's schtick?

Frankly, replacing a couple dozen nouns with gender-neutral equivalents simply doesn't strike me as all that significant.  Language changes all the time, and this particular class of changes do not reduce the expressivity of English (ordurous mire of an all-assimilating language that it is), so I don't think it's worth making a fuss about.  Address people in a fashion that seems polite to them, and don't sweat the details.

If you honestly want to know how (or if) this phenomenon affects Spanich speakers, maybe you should look for a forum that specializes in cultural linguistics, rather than an obscure religious cult.


--- Quote ---I can't be arsed to retrain my language processing.. thing.

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I'm prone to snap judgments, so I may have to eat my words later?  But I don't think I'm going to like you.

Doktor Howl:

--- Quote from: Odibex Grallspice on May 04, 2020, 10:45:07 am ---
--- Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on May 03, 2020, 03:04:35 pm ---I don't believe that's actually a thing, although sometimes right-wing morons bring it up as an example of how they're being oppressed.

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if you're not aware about it you're a step behind the right-wing morons who at least know of it. I call the person who delivers my dark web drugs as a "carrier", rather than what I did when I was younger, a "mailman". that makes sense to me. on the other hand I'm not going to say "humankind" instead of "mankind" becasue that's not a word

I have a PDF here from NOVA Southeastern University, which advises me to refer to "the common man" as "the average person" or "ordinary people". this kind of thing to me seems technically legit, but I can't be arsed to retrain my language processing.. thing. there's plenty folks who think language has a big role on how we perceive reality, and on the articulation of our societies. a William Burroughs referred to "Language is a virus", and.. even disregarding this perspective, I think it foolish to poo poo the role language plays in a peoples. that said, I, personally, think trying to change what a word means is a most inefficient means of effecting change (for insistence, insisting "racism" means "institutional" or "systemic" racism).

it may not be a top-of-mind, hot button, guaranteed-validation-generating issue, but it's most certainly a thing, one that the right's mocking of doesn't make nonextant. and yes I am new here in that I can view things anew, without the accumulated toxin-baises of someone who has been loitering about the various stratum for some time now. none of this has anything to do with my comment.

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UNNNG

rong:
i'm seeing latinx substituted for latina or latino lately.  Seems relevant.

i would think since inanimate objects are unable to formulate opinions about their own identity, one has not choice but to assume their gender.  The inanimate object not only lacks the sentience to disagree, but it can't even have an opinion about it in the first place.

however, i must admit, it is a little odd to me to confer gender to an inanimate object in the first place.  Although if you think in terms of hermetic principles, maybe you believe that every single thing must be either male or female?  if you believed every single thing is either male or female, most items would probably seem more one or the other.  for example a pencil vs a bowl?? 

I wonder - it would be funny if the gender of pants is male, but the gender for pockets is female. . . are hands female or male depending on the owner?  are sexual morays also conferred on inanimate objects?  is it gay to rub two pencils together??

LMNO:

--- Quote from: rong on May 04, 2020, 03:21:14 pm --- is it gay to rub two pencils together??

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Yes, but not for the reasons you think.

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