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Started by QuestionsTheSoil, April 19, 2023, 03:50:07 PM

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Fallenkezef

Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 07:14:42 AM
THAT'S what you're referencing?

So you're saying you're not being a misogynist because you're using the dismissive catchphrase of a man in a dress when addressing a trans woman?

Great job. Top work. No notes.

I find it's a little more polite than "go fuck yourself".
Engage the enemy more closely

Scribbly

I had an existential crisis and all I got was this stupid gender.

Fallenkezef

Engage the enemy more closely

Scribbly

You were given a choice, dumbass.

Being extremely charitable you used a poor analogy and were called on it. If you'd held your hands up then and there maybe some people would have thought "Eh, this guy acts like he's just been kicked in the head by a horse but he's just a moron, not malicious." Not everyone, admittedly. Some of us have reasons to discard anyone who even looks like they might be dogwhistling. Combined with your post history and the fact you still haven't addressed that, well, I'd definitely be giving you the side-eye for a good long time even if you hadn't carried on.

"Go fuck yourself" was a chance for you to go back, read what you just said, realise the sheer extent of your ignorance, how fucking insulting it is, and reevaluate just what you want your time in this community to look like.

You made your choice. You doubled down. After all, it's not you that's incapable of communicating like a human being. It's everyone ELSE who is just being MEAN and RUDE! And surely, there's not a single thing poor, bleeding heart FK did to deserve rudeness. Why, I'm just clutching my pearls.

You want to talk about perception? You want to know why everyone just seems to call you a fascist?

Well fuck, buddy, there might just be some clues buried in this thread right here. Who can say?
I had an existential crisis and all I got was this stupid gender.

Fallenkezef

Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 07:14:42 AM
THAT'S what you're referencing?

So you're saying you're not being a misogynist because you're using the dismissive catchphrase of a man in a dress when addressing a trans woman?

Great job. Top work. No notes.

Lets drill down into this hypocrisy shall we? Dismissing a "man in a dress"? That's a REALLY insulting way to describe drag don't you think?

Considering it was a "man in a dress" that started the stonewall riots. Considering the fact that Florida recently passed the death penalty for child abuse convictions and will now try to use that legislation to threaten and harass homosexual (and straight) people who dress in drag and conduct story time readings. But that's ok apparently as a "man in a dress" is somehow misogynistic.

Lets look at the "man in a dress" who's catchphrase I love so much shall we? Brendan O'Carroll is a massive supporter of the LGBT+ community. He's used the show to support gay rights and the to campaign for the legalisation of gay marriage in Ireland.

Great Job. Top Work. No Notes.
Engage the enemy more closely

Fallenkezef

Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 09:07:50 AM
You were given a choice, dumbass.

Being extremely charitable you used a poor analogy and were called on it. If you'd held your hands up then and there maybe some people would have thought "Eh, this guy acts like he's just been kicked in the head by a horse but he's just a moron, not malicious." Not everyone, admittedly. Some of us have reasons to discard anyone who even looks like they might be dogwhistling. Combined with your post history and the fact you still haven't addressed that, well, I'd definitely be giving you the side-eye for a good long time even if you hadn't carried on.

"Go fuck yourself" was a chance for you to go back, read what you just said, realise the sheer extent of your ignorance, how fucking insulting it is, and reevaluate just what you want your time in this community to look like.

You made your choice. You doubled down. After all, it's not you that's incapable of communicating like a human being. It's everyone ELSE who is just being MEAN and RUDE! And surely, there's not a single thing poor, bleeding heart FK did to deserve rudeness. Why, I'm just clutching my pearls.

You want to talk about perception? You want to know why everyone just seems to call you a fascist?

Well fuck, buddy, there might just be some clues buried in this thread right here. Who can say?

Aye, who can say?
Engage the enemy more closely

Scribbly

Quote from: Fallenkezef on May 04, 2023, 09:12:08 AM
Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 07:14:42 AM
THAT'S what you're referencing?

So you're saying you're not being a misogynist because you're using the dismissive catchphrase of a man in a dress when addressing a trans woman?

Great job. Top work. No notes.

Lets drill down into this hypocrisy shall we? Dismissing a "man in a dress"? That's a REALLY insulting way to describe drag don't you think?

Considering it was a "man in a dress" that started the stonewall riots. Considering the fact that Florida recently passed the death penalty for child abuse convictions and will now try to use that legislation to threaten and harass homosexual (and straight) people who dress in drag and conduct story time readings. But that's ok apparently as a "man in a dress" is somehow misogynistic.

Lets look at the "man in a dress" who's catchphrase I love so much shall we? Brendan O'Carroll is a massive supporter of the LGBT+ community. He's used the show to support gay rights and the to campaign for the legalisation of gay marriage in Ireland.

Great Job. Top Work. No Notes.

Once again: Go fuck yourself.
I had an existential crisis and all I got was this stupid gender.

Fallenkezef

Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: Fallenkezef on May 04, 2023, 09:12:08 AM
Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 07:14:42 AM
THAT'S what you're referencing?

So you're saying you're not being a misogynist because you're using the dismissive catchphrase of a man in a dress when addressing a trans woman?

Great job. Top work. No notes.

Lets drill down into this hypocrisy shall we? Dismissing a "man in a dress"? That's a REALLY insulting way to describe drag don't you think?

Considering it was a "man in a dress" that started the stonewall riots. Considering the fact that Florida recently passed the death penalty for child abuse convictions and will now try to use that legislation to threaten and harass homosexual (and straight) people who dress in drag and conduct story time readings. But that's ok apparently as a "man in a dress" is somehow misogynistic.

Lets look at the "man in a dress" who's catchphrase I love so much shall we? Brendan O'Carroll is a massive supporter of the LGBT+ community. He's used the show to support gay rights and the to campaign for the legalisation of gay marriage in Ireland.

Great Job. Top Work. No Notes.

Once again: Go fuck yourself.

That's nice dear

Seems folks can't deal with dissonance in the echo chamber. Allot of broken mirrors around here it would appear.
Engage the enemy more closely

Faust

#38
Please dont let this stop the shitting on this moron but:

I wont hear ill of Brendan O'Carroll, I don't like Mrs browns boys but that character cannot be reduced to the cliched joke of a man in a dress.
Agnes brown is an incredibly accurate portrayal of an Irish Mammy, and both his portrayal and Angelica Houstons (yes its THAT agnes brown) elicit aspects of the character in interesting ways
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Faust

Quote from: Fallenkezef on May 04, 2023, 09:31:48 AM
Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: Fallenkezef on May 04, 2023, 09:12:08 AM
Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 07:14:42 AM
THAT'S what you're referencing?

So you're saying you're not being a misogynist because you're using the dismissive catchphrase of a man in a dress when addressing a trans woman?

Great job. Top work. No notes.

Lets drill down into this hypocrisy shall we? Dismissing a "man in a dress"? That's a REALLY insulting way to describe drag don't you think?

Considering it was a "man in a dress" that started the stonewall riots. Considering the fact that Florida recently passed the death penalty for child abuse convictions and will now try to use that legislation to threaten and harass homosexual (and straight) people who dress in drag and conduct story time readings. But that's ok apparently as a "man in a dress" is somehow misogynistic.

Lets look at the "man in a dress" who's catchphrase I love so much shall we? Brendan O'Carroll is a massive supporter of the LGBT+ community. He's used the show to support gay rights and the to campaign for the legalisation of gay marriage in Ireland.

Great Job. Top Work. No Notes.

Once again: Go fuck yourself.

That's nice dear

Seems folks can't deal with dissonance in the echo chamber. Allot of broken mirrors around here it would appear.

Instead of irritating people who don't want to interact with you, have you considered swallowing rat poison
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Fallenkezef

Quote from: Faust on May 04, 2023, 09:40:05 AM
Quote from: Fallenkezef on May 04, 2023, 09:31:48 AM
Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: Fallenkezef on May 04, 2023, 09:12:08 AM
Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 07:14:42 AM
THAT'S what you're referencing?

So you're saying you're not being a misogynist because you're using the dismissive catchphrase of a man in a dress when addressing a trans woman?

Great job. Top work. No notes.

Lets drill down into this hypocrisy shall we? Dismissing a "man in a dress"? That's a REALLY insulting way to describe drag don't you think?

Considering it was a "man in a dress" that started the stonewall riots. Considering the fact that Florida recently passed the death penalty for child abuse convictions and will now try to use that legislation to threaten and harass homosexual (and straight) people who dress in drag and conduct story time readings. But that's ok apparently as a "man in a dress" is somehow misogynistic.

Lets look at the "man in a dress" who's catchphrase I love so much shall we? Brendan O'Carroll is a massive supporter of the LGBT+ community. He's used the show to support gay rights and the to campaign for the legalisation of gay marriage in Ireland.

Great Job. Top Work. No Notes.

Once again: Go fuck yourself.

That's nice dear

Seems folks can't deal with dissonance in the echo chamber. Allot of broken mirrors around here it would appear.

Instead of irritating people who don't want to interact with you, have you considered swallowing rat poison

No, does it come in multiple flavours?
Engage the enemy more closely

Faust

Give it a try and you could report back, or dont
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Scribbly

Quote from: Faust on May 04, 2023, 09:39:02 AM
Please dont let this stop the shitting on this moron but:

I wont hear ill of Brendan O'Carroll, I don't like Mrs browns boys but that character cannot be reduced to the cliched joke of a man in a dress.
Agnes brown is an incredibly accurate portrayal of an Irish Mammy, and both his portrayal and Angelica Houstons (yes its THAT agnes brown) elicit aspects of the character in interesting ways

Not throwing any shade at O'Carroll.

Just think it's very interesting that FK chose that character in this particular context.

It's almost like everything he says has some kind of unfortunate subtext to it. What a strange coincidence.

Just going to leave this here for no particular reason.

Quote from: SartreNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
I had an existential crisis and all I got was this stupid gender.

Fallenkezef

Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Faust on May 04, 2023, 09:39:02 AM
Please dont let this stop the shitting on this moron but:

I wont hear ill of Brendan O'Carroll, I don't like Mrs browns boys but that character cannot be reduced to the cliched joke of a man in a dress.
Agnes brown is an incredibly accurate portrayal of an Irish Mammy, and both his portrayal and Angelica Houstons (yes its THAT agnes brown) elicit aspects of the character in interesting ways

Not throwing any shade at O'Carroll.

Just think it's very interesting that FK chose that character in this particular context.

It's almost like everything he says has some kind of unfortunate subtext to it. What a strange coincidence.

Just going to leave this here for no particular reason.

Quote from: SartreNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

That's a fun little game

"We do not know what we want and yet we are responsible for what we are - that is the fact."
Engage the enemy more closely

Faust

Quote from: Scribbly on May 04, 2023, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Faust on May 04, 2023, 09:39:02 AM
Please dont let this stop the shitting on this moron but:

I wont hear ill of Brendan O'Carroll, I don't like Mrs browns boys but that character cannot be reduced to the cliched joke of a man in a dress.
Agnes brown is an incredibly accurate portrayal of an Irish Mammy, and both his portrayal and Angelica Houstons (yes its THAT agnes brown) elicit aspects of the character in interesting ways

Not throwing any shade at O'Carroll.

Just think it's very interesting that FK chose that character in this particular context.

It's almost like everything he says has some kind of unfortunate subtext to it. What a strange coincidence.

Just going to leave this here for no particular reason.

Quote from: SartreNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

You are right, literally everything he says has the overtone. That subtle circumspect approach to bigotry is such a peevish thing
Sleepless nights at the chateau