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Read the Illuminatus! trilogy

Started by Cain, February 21, 2005, 03:13:50 PM

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LMNO

My interpretation of horab:

"evil" because it gives things away too easily.  Instead of going to the encyclopedia (or online, these days),a nd having to actually figure it out yourself, they more-or-less spoon feed you.

But that's just my interpretation.

hooplala

I don't know that I fully agree with you . . . the appendixes are not exactly light reading, and they don't really tell you a lot that wasn't already explained somewhere in the story.

I guess as I see it, Illuminatus is the encyclopedia, you just need to weed out the important shit from the farce . . . or maybe the farce is the important shit . . . or maybe the important shit is farce . . . or maybe its all important . . . or maybe its all farce.

I don't know what I'm going on about anymore.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

hooplala

and, at any rate, I think 'evil' is pushing it.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

LMNO

Eh, I think you just need to hang around Horab some more.


Anyway, it was just my interpretation.


PS - In Illuminatus!, nothing is true.


There is no conspiracy anywhere

Horab Fibslager

Quote from: Christ Raw V, KSCand, at any rate, I think 'evil' is pushing it.

no, no, it's definitely pulling it, but in any case, it's evil because it seemed like the thign to say at the time. tho el's interpretaton while reasonably falacious, is altogether sensiible and comes tot eh mark.

i foudn the entire book to be very light reading, including the appendices.

mind you, i could never get past the first page or 3 of the hobbit.


when you don't knwo what you are on about aymore, you are striking deep into the heart of the Mysteree.


also, in Illimunatus! everything is true.

teh janitor at your local high school is in charge of north america
Hell is other people.

LMNO

Quote from: Ignotum per Ignotius
Quote from: LMNOTo me, Leviathan was the weakest of it.  The cut-up dream sequences/acid trips/deprogramming, the "we are all in a book" bit, the lists
hmm...i would like to dissagrea with u here, the lists and ramblings and choppy senes all made sence where it was, i mean, what else could be put in its place. even on its own the what the seemingly incoherentness of it made quita bit of sence if u ask me.

in regards to the validity of trueth to the story. perhaps this questioning and ambiguaty is inderectly connected to what the book talks about the information/missinformation/half trueths/half lies/ trueths/ lies/ both truth and lies. to which the sectreat society discussed is said to practice in order to get those whome are looking into the subject confuzed and all turned around, and keeping party members on a short leash on what the societys true agenda is. thus mind games of a sort


1. I understood why it was there, and the purpose it served, and before you ask, yes, I understood the dream/trip logic of it.  It's just when I got the third page of band names, I couldn't help skimming a bit.

2. The whole "nothing/everything is true" bit I, and others, occasionally do is a meta-joke, of sorts.  We get it, we're just teasing each other/the random lurker.

hooplala

But everything IS true - and nothing is true . . . that's the best part about the "satire".

Every book is fiction, even text books.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Horab Fibslager

maybe. but not always and sometimes or never always.
Hell is other people.

hooplala

Oh, ALWAYS - except when it's never.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Horab Fibslager

sorry, only on saturdays that lie on the 4th of the month in odd numbered years which are also not prime.
Hell is other people.

Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy

Quote from: Mr. Fibslagersorry, only on saturdays that lie on the 4th of the month in odd numbered years which are also not prime.
Okaaayyy, I am a math geek and that made my head hurt, or at least it made my brain go

Horab Fibslager

Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: Mr. Fibslagersorry, only on saturdays that lie on the 4th of the month in odd numbered years which are also not prime.
Okaaayyy, I am a math geek and that made my head hurt, or at least it made my brain go


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Hell is other people.

Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy

Freddy:
Daphne and I will enter through the exit there, Velma, you exit through the entrance there

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