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Chaos is fluffy white clouds and pink bunnies and shit.

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, March 07, 2005, 11:03:14 PM

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The Meringue

Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: Slapdash & CavalierAnd that had nothing to do with the wortm either.

Nor did it have anything to do with the flies.

Hey, sometimes you gotta scoop your own eyes out and fuck your own mind, even if you can't afford a dildo and have to use a broom handle.

Finklestein!

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

We were involved in a heated discussion about the deleterious effects of ass jacking whilst on crack.
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"

Guido Finucci

Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCWe were involved in a heated discussion about the deleterious effects of ass jacking whilst on crack.

You freeze your arse and scrape the layer of ice off it to make stronger arse.... while on crack?

That is fucked up, right there.

The MEringue

Quote from: Slapdash & Cavalier
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCWe were involved in a heated discussion about the deleterious effects of ass jacking whilst on crack.

You freeze your arse and scrape the layer of ice off it to make stronger arse.... while on crack?

That is fucked up, right there.

Plastic surgery the way it should be, painful and convoluted!  :lol:

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

Quote from: The MEringue
Quote from: Slapdash & Cavalier
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCWe were involved in a heated discussion about the deleterious effects of ass jacking whilst on crack.

You freeze your arse and scrape the layer of ice off it to make stronger arse.... while on crack?

That is fucked up, right there.

Plastic surgery the way it should be, painful and convoluted!  :lol:

No. That's too crass for what we do to puppies man. Sheesh. Keep it down! There are kids around here!
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"

Ghost In The Machine

Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerEris loves us all and wants to teach us macrame.  Eris is really nice and didn't destroy a whole civilization because she got snubbed and you can't prove anything so stop saying that.

Eris wants us all to be nice to each other and she shoot rainbows out of her forehead and pisses pure patchouli.  She is amothering type, and is always willing to share her stash.  She wouldn't hurt a fly, because Bad Things aren't REAL chaos.

So there.

Chaos is very rarely beneficial, in the grand scheme of things.

Especially as implimented by humans.  Usually it results in war, genocide, and mass starvation.  The Hutu/Tutsi conflict is a good example of this, as is Bosnia.  The recent history of Iraq is an even better example.

East Coast Hustle

that all depends on what you consider beneficial.

eradicating the Tutsis = probably not beneficial

eradicating the entire population of the balkans = probably long overdue

8)
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Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerEris loves us all and wants to teach us macrame.  Eris is really nice and didn't destroy a whole civilization because she got snubbed and you can't prove anything so stop saying that.

Eris wants us all to be nice to each other and she shoot rainbows out of her forehead and pisses pure patchouli.  She is amothering type, and is always willing to share her stash.  She wouldn't hurt a fly, because Bad Things aren't REAL chaos.

So there.

Chaos is very rarely beneficial, in the grand scheme of things.

Especially as implimented by humans.  Usually it results in war, genocide, and mass starvation.  The Hutu/Tutsi conflict is a good example of this, as is Bosnia.  The recent history of Iraq is an even better example.

Chaos doesn't cause genocides. People who want State or Social Order and Power cause genocides....and wars, and all that. We just blame chaos so we can pass the buck and live off of the very people our politicians and corporate bosses are fucking over and murdering. (That's the american way and america pwns the world.)
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"

Horab Fibslager

chaos is a amthematical abstract describign the whole of creation from an outside point of view.
Hell is other people.

Ghost In The Machine

Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerEris loves us all and wants to teach us macrame.  Eris is really nice and didn't destroy a whole civilization because she got snubbed and you can't prove anything so stop saying that.

Eris wants us all to be nice to each other and she shoot rainbows out of her forehead and pisses pure patchouli.  She is amothering type, and is always willing to share her stash.  She wouldn't hurt a fly, because Bad Things aren't REAL chaos.

So there.

Chaos is very rarely beneficial, in the grand scheme of things.

Especially as implimented by humans.  Usually it results in war, genocide, and mass starvation.  The Hutu/Tutsi conflict is a good example of this, as is Bosnia.  The recent history of Iraq is an even better example.

Chaos doesn't cause genocides. People who want State or Social Order and Power cause genocides....and wars, and all that. We just blame chaos so we can pass the buck and live off of the very people our politicians and corporate bosses are fucking over and murdering. (That's the american way and america pwns the world.)

Incorrect.  The Hutu/Tutsi genocide occured during a breakdown of law.

The world != America.

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerEris loves us all and wants to teach us macrame.  Eris is really nice and didn't destroy a whole civilization because she got snubbed and you can't prove anything so stop saying that.

Eris wants us all to be nice to each other and she shoot rainbows out of her forehead and pisses pure patchouli.  She is amothering type, and is always willing to share her stash.  She wouldn't hurt a fly, because Bad Things aren't REAL chaos.

So there.

Chaos is very rarely beneficial, in the grand scheme of things.

Especially as implimented by humans.  Usually it results in war, genocide, and mass starvation.  The Hutu/Tutsi conflict is a good example of this, as is Bosnia.  The recent history of Iraq is an even better example.

Chaos doesn't cause genocides. People who want State or Social Order and Power cause genocides....and wars, and all that. We just blame chaos so we can pass the buck and live off of the very people our politicians and corporate bosses are fucking over and murdering. (That's the american way and america pwns the world.)

Incorrect.  The Hutu/Tutsi genocide occured during a breakdown of law.

The world != America.

No it didn't. I was in Kigali when that shit started. There was a war between rebels and the gov't, but the shit didn't hit the fan until the gov't decided to broadcast via radio to all the war refugees that they should kill the Tutsis. A group called the Interahamwe then went around and armed all refugees with machetes and knives and other implements and they went up to everyone asking for their passbooks. (In Rwanda everyone had to carry a passbook which describes your racial background.) If the passbook said "Tutsi" they took you out to the highway and hacked you up.

The violence didn't stop until the rebels finally ousted the gov't and shot up all those idiot Interahamwe scumbags. You should see the spectacle of men armed with machetes trying to defend themselves against machine gun fire and mortars. The assholes deserved it either way.
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"

Ghost In The Machine

Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerEris loves us all and wants to teach us macrame.  Eris is really nice and didn't destroy a whole civilization because she got snubbed and you can't prove anything so stop saying that.

Eris wants us all to be nice to each other and she shoot rainbows out of her forehead and pisses pure patchouli.  She is amothering type, and is always willing to share her stash.  She wouldn't hurt a fly, because Bad Things aren't REAL chaos.

So there.

Chaos is very rarely beneficial, in the grand scheme of things.

Especially as implimented by humans.  Usually it results in war, genocide, and mass starvation.  The Hutu/Tutsi conflict is a good example of this, as is Bosnia.  The recent history of Iraq is an even better example.

Chaos doesn't cause genocides. People who want State or Social Order and Power cause genocides....and wars, and all that. We just blame chaos so we can pass the buck and live off of the very people our politicians and corporate bosses are fucking over and murdering. (That's the american way and america pwns the world.)

Incorrect.  The Hutu/Tutsi genocide occured during a breakdown of law.

The world != America.

No it didn't. I was in Kigali when that shit started. There was a war between rebels and the gov't, but the shit didn't hit the fan until the gov't decided to broadcast via radio to all the war refugees that they should kill the Tutsis. A group called the Interahamwe then went around and armed all refugees with machetes and knives and other implements and they went up to everyone asking for their passbooks. (In Rwanda everyone had to carry a passbook which describes your racial background.) If the passbook said "Tutsi" they took you out to the highway and hacked you up.

The violence didn't stop until the rebels finally ousted the gov't and shot up all those idiot Interahamwe scumbags. You should see the spectacle of men armed with machetes trying to defend themselves against machine gun fire and mortars. The assholes deserved it either way.

You call that law?  No, that was one or two idiots that made a very, very bad decision.

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

BTW- most of Rwanda's neighbors have the same racial makeup...Tutsi/Hutu and have the same sort of problems. Every few years some group of Hutus decides to kill some more Tutsis. It's almost a predictable cycle.
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"

Ghost In The Machine

Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCBTW- most of Rwanda's neighbors have the same racial makeup...Tutsi/Hutu and have the same sort of problems. Every few years some group of Hutus decides to kill some more Tutsis. It's almost a predictable cycle.

Doesn't make it lawful.  

Chaos doesn't have to be unpredictable, at contradictory as that may sound.

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCBTW- most of Rwanda's neighbors have the same racial makeup...Tutsi/Hutu and have the same sort of problems. Every few years some group of Hutus decides to kill some more Tutsis. It's almost a predictable cycle.

Doesn't make it lawful.  

Chaos doesn't have to be unpredictable, at contradictory as that may sound.

These are usually supported by local gov't and authorities, unless the Tutsis are in charge. (Which is probably why the Tutsis like to try to stay in charge....they get tired of being killed on, you know.) But, actually, Rwanda in '94 was quite peaceful. You heard reports about the fighting and you saw refugees in the streets, but it was very orderly....unless you account for the almost daily demonstrations against one group or another by one group or another. When the killing really started, you heard a lot of noise, like a New Year's Eve party across the city (Kigali) and just stayed inside and hoped to all gods they wouldn't come looking for the foreigners. But it was all very legal. Both the Tutsis and the Hutus are all about legality. That's why they fight each other for state power.
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"