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Presidents say stupid things

Started by Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy, March 17, 2005, 05:02:16 PM

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Which is stupider

Reagan:  "I don't recall"  Iran-Contra hearings
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Nixon:  "I am not a crook"  upon resignation
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Clinton:  "I did not have sexual realtions with that woman"  Grand Jury Inquiry
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George W Bush: "I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the news themselves."
6 (31.6%)
George W Bush: "You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order—order out of chaos. But we will."
2 (10.5%)
George W Bush: "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
7 (36.8%)
John F Kennedy:  "Ich Bin Ein Berliner"
4 (21.1%)
Jimmy Carter:  "I've committed adultery in my heart many times" PlayBoy interview
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gnimbley

#60
March 17, 2005, 09:56:43 PM
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: gnimbleyLet me ask you a question, Roger. How many troops would Kerry have withdrawn from Iraq during his term of office?
That's hardly a fair question, whoever gets elected next is going to inherit this mess.  It's like the proverb where you save someone's life, then you are responsible for it.

Bush never prepared for this part of the process.  As far as I have been able to tell, no one did.  That is one of the reasons it is such a disaster.

How dare you criticize our wonderful president!  He might be evil and crooked, but at least he isn't Hillary!  She's not perfect, you know!
Yeah, that pesky bitch, she wanted to make sure we all had Healthcare and that all of our children had enough to eat.  And she tried to convince us that we are all responsible for the children, that chldren need to be taken care of.  So her marriage ins't perfect, neither is mine, but it is closer to perfect than my parents was.  Any of the 4 marriages between the 2 of them.  For being Discordians or Erisians or whatever, there is a lot of judgmental crap floating around.  Hey, Ghost in the Machine, can we get a clean up over here?  Thanks,  :roll:

I didn't like Hillary's healthcare plan because I didn't like going to jail
for visiting the wrong doctor, among other things.

And I don't like the idea of the state (village) brainwashing all the little
children. If they do that, they are all going to end up like Republican
Roger, the robot of assilumation. (Although, admitedly, I did not read
Hillary's book so I am just talking out my ass on that one. I figured
Tyson paid her enought she didn't need my money.)

The Good Reverend Roger

#61
March 17, 2005, 09:58:32 PM
Quote from: ScribeI did Milgram in psychology.  Its still not a fucking excuse.  What they should have done is found out why some of them didnt do as they were told and see if that could be applied to the population as a whole.

It would never work because - contrary to myth - Americans are no better, morally, than any other people.  Fact is, many Americans WANT to hurt Iraqi "persons of interest", because they associate Iraq with 911.  After all, both Saddam and OBL were suspiciously brown, and so are the people incarcerated in Abu Graib.

This is why there has been no serious call to punish the higher ups responsible (Rumsfeld, Gonzalez, Bush, etc).
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy

#62
March 17, 2005, 09:59:15 PM
Quote from: ScribeI did Milgram in psychology.  Its still not a fucking excuse.  What they should have done is found out why some of them didnt do as they were told and see if that could be applied to the population as a whole.
I didn't mean to say it is an excuse, I am just saying it is in human nature.  And those experiments have been done in other cultures.  I forget the specifics, but the more rigid the social order, the less flexibility, the less you feel comfortable questioning people that are in authority positions over you, the more likely this sort of thing can happen.  And a lot of people knew about Abu Graib.  If there hadn't been pic's, it might still be kept quiet.  And people in control do not want to find out what makes people say no, they want to keep the majority saying nothing...

The Good Reverend Roger

#63
March 17, 2005, 10:00:34 PM
Quote from: gnimbley
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: gnimbleyLet me ask you a question, Roger. How many troops would Kerry have withdrawn from Iraq during his term of office?
That's hardly a fair question, whoever gets elected next is going to inherit this mess.  It's like the proverb where you save someone's life, then you are responsible for it.

Bush never prepared for this part of the process.  As far as I have been able to tell, no one did.  That is one of the reasons it is such a disaster.

How dare you criticize our wonderful president!  He might be evil and crooked, but at least he isn't Hillary!  She's not perfect, you know!
Yeah, that pesky bitch, she wanted to make sure we all had Healthcare and that all of our children had enough to eat.  And she tried to convince us that we are all responsible for the children, that chldren need to be taken care of.  So her marriage ins't perfect, neither is mine, but it is closer to perfect than my parents was.  Any of the 4 marriages between the 2 of them.  For being Discordians or Erisians or whatever, there is a lot of judgmental crap floating around.  Hey, Ghost in the Machine, can we get a clean up over here?  Thanks,  :roll:

I didn't like Hillary's healthcare plan because I didn't like going to jail
for visiting the wrong doctor, among other things.

And I don't like the idea of the state (village) brainwashing all the little
children. If they do that, they are all going to end up like Republican
Roger, the robot of assilumation. (Although, admitedly, I did not read
Hillary's book so I am just talking out my ass on that one. I figured
Tyson paid her enought she didn't need my money.)

True!  The GOP has the best plan!  "Don't get sick."

Not reading her book is no problem.  Making decisions without seeing the subject at hand is the American Way.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#64
March 17, 2005, 10:01:21 PM
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: ScribeI did Milgram in psychology.  Its still not a fucking excuse.  What they should have done is found out why some of them didnt do as they were told and see if that could be applied to the population as a whole.
I didn't mean to say it is an excuse, I am just saying it is in human nature.  And those experiments have been done in other cultures.  I forget the specifics, but the more rigid the social order, the less flexibility, the less you feel comfortable questioning people that are in authority positions over you, the more likely this sort of thing can happen.  And a lot of people knew about Abu Graib.  If there hadn't been pic's, it might still be kept quiet.  And people in control do not want to find out what makes people say no, they want to keep the majority saying nothing...

Did anyone mention that Clinton got a blowjob?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#65
March 17, 2005, 10:01:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: ScribeI did Milgram in psychology.  Its still not a fucking excuse.  What they should have done is found out why some of them didnt do as they were told and see if that could be applied to the population as a whole.

It would never work because - contrary to myth - Americans are no better, morally, than any other people.  Fact is, many Americans WANT to hurt Iraqi "persons of interest", because they associate Iraq with 911.  After all, both Saddam and OBL were suspiciously brown, and so are the people incarcerated in Abu Graib.

This is why there has been no serious call to punish the higher ups responsible (Rumsfeld, Gonzalez, Bush, etc).

Sorry to say this Rog, but most of your country are afflicted by a disease called "being fucking retarded", its caused by watching too much TV.

The Good Reverend Roger

#66
March 17, 2005, 10:02:13 PM
Quote from: Scribe
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: ScribeI did Milgram in psychology.  Its still not a fucking excuse.  What they should have done is found out why some of them didnt do as they were told and see if that could be applied to the population as a whole.

It would never work because - contrary to myth - Americans are no better, morally, than any other people.  Fact is, many Americans WANT to hurt Iraqi "persons of interest", because they associate Iraq with 911.  After all, both Saddam and OBL were suspiciously brown, and so are the people incarcerated in Abu Graib.

This is why there has been no serious call to punish the higher ups responsible (Rumsfeld, Gonzalez, Bush, etc).

Sorry to say this Rog, but most of your country are afflicted by a disease called "being fucking retarded", its caused by watching too much TV.

Naw.  Paint chips.  At least 61,000,000 Americans are apparently ADDICTED to the damn things.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

gnimbley

#67
March 17, 2005, 10:02:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: ScribeI did Milgram in psychology.  Its still not a fucking excuse.  What they should have done is found out why some of them didnt do as they were told and see if that could be applied to the population as a whole.

It would never work because - contrary to myth - Americans are no better, morally, than any other people.  Fact is, many Americans WANT to hurt Iraqi "persons of interest", because they associate Iraq with 911.  After all, both Saddam and OBL were suspiciously brown, and so are the people incarcerated in Abu Graib.

This is why there has been no serious call to punish the higher ups responsible (Rumsfeld, Gonzalez, Bush, etc).

Truth

Cain

#68
March 17, 2005, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: ScribeI did Milgram in psychology.  Its still not a fucking excuse.  What they should have done is found out why some of them didnt do as they were told and see if that could be applied to the population as a whole.
I didn't mean to say it is an excuse, I am just saying it is in human nature.  And those experiments have been done in other cultures.  I forget the specifics, but the more rigid the social order, the less flexibility, the less you feel comfortable questioning people that are in authority positions over you, the more likely this sort of thing can happen.  And a lot of people knew about Abu Graib.  If there hadn't been pic's, it might still be kept quiet.  And people in control do not want to find out what makes people say no, they want to keep the majority saying nothing...

Sorry, Im just a little pissed off tonight, didnt mean to rip your head off.  But still, we have to find out why those who didnt do it didnt do it.  I think that is possibly very important.  I dont think it is just down to social order, it seems far more determined than that.

Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy

#69
March 17, 2005, 10:03:39 PM
Um, I started this thread so we could talk about the stupid things presidents say, not so we could say stupider things to each other.  What was I thinking :roll:

gnimbley

#70
March 17, 2005, 10:04:13 PM
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy...  And a lot of people knew about Abu Graib.  If there hadn't been pic's, it would have been kept quiet.

Fixed that for you, hon.

The Good Reverend Roger

#71
March 17, 2005, 10:04:42 PM
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyUm, I started this thread so we could talk about the stupid things presidents say, not so we could say stupider things to each other.  What was I thinking :roll:

You were expecting continuity?

Oopsie.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

gnimbley

#72
March 17, 2005, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyUm, I started this thread so we could talk about the stupid things presidents say, not so we could say stupider things to each other.  What was I thinking :roll:

You were expecting continuity?

Oopsie.

Yeah. What does this have to do with Hugh?

The Good Reverend Roger

#73
March 17, 2005, 10:07:25 PM
Quote from: gnimbley
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyUm, I started this thread so we could talk about the stupid things presidents say, not so we could say stupider things to each other.  What was I thinking :roll:

You were expecting continuity?

Oopsie.

Yeah. What does this have to do with Hugh?

And what part of Hillary's health care plan would send you to jail for going to the wrong doctor?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

gnimbley

#74
March 17, 2005, 10:09:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: gnimbley
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyUm, I started this thread so we could talk about the stupid things presidents say, not so we could say stupider things to each other.  What was I thinking :roll:

You were expecting continuity?

Oopsie.

Yeah. What does this have to do with Hugh?

And what part of Hillary's health care plan would send you to jail for going to the wrong doctor?

The part that detailed criminal penalties for both the patient and the
doctor if the transaction was not previously approved by an assigned
gatekeeper.
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