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The Internal Jihad - Rant on Balence

Started by Zurtok Khan, May 22, 2005, 08:23:05 AM

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Zurtok Khan

May 22, 2005, 08:23:05 AM
When you close your doors, and make darkness within, remember never to say that you are alone, for you are not alone; nay, God is within, and your genius is within. And what need have they of light to see what you are doing?
-Epictetus

I'm sure many of you know the Islam doctrine of Jihad, as opposed to our own.  There are two Jihads to be had, according to Mohammad.  The first is the Jihad within one's self, the second is the Jihad against the world of unbelievers.  The Jihad within one's self is considered to be the vastly more important Holy War according to peaceful Islamic groups, while it is obvious to the modern observer that the militant Islamic groups focus much more on the external war they give their lives to fight.

We are not Islamic.  But, we fight our Jihads all the same.  They are silly, inane, and very rarely get carried out.  Oh, there are a few of us here (and those departed to prison, if the Good Rev Roger is to be believed, and in this I may well believe him) who do stir up Chaos other places then here.  And, certainly there is a large Discordian contingent "out there" who stir up their own Chaos that we only occasionally hear about on the news.

I think we all, to one extent or the other, fight the internal Jihad.  We're the ELF's I suppose.  Finding the Chaos within ourselves and sprinkling it like a Catholic on the masses.  Just a touch there, and a nudge here, and suddenly we have one very confused gray staring back at us.  All is well.

Or the POEE's among us enact the external Jihad - large scale projects designed to mindfuck the masses blowing everymind that comes in contact with the project.

What must be found is a balence between the internal and external Jihad, between ELF and POEE.  If you are caught too far on the internal of things, then you lose sight of doing things externally, and vice versa.  

Is Chaos balenced?  Of course.  Of course not.  Eris is BalencedBalence, and ImbalencedBalence and any other combonations you can think of.

The promptings of Eris won't keep us there, at the point of balence.  They will throw us from internal to external to middle-of-the-road and over again.  It's all a game, it's all a trick.  It's all for fun, and fun for all.  It's completely real, while being an illusion.  And, so on and so forth.
Resistance is Fertile.

Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more.
-Mark Twain

I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him.
-Mark Twain

The Good Reverend Roger

#1
May 24, 2005, 03:47:48 AM
I just came off a 2 year internal Jihaad.  I don't recommend it to anyone.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Zurtok Khan

#2
May 24, 2005, 08:13:41 AM
Hrrrm...Roger, don't suppose I get any of your..."internal jihading" any time soon?

:twisted:
Resistance is Fertile.

Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more.
-Mark Twain

I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him.
-Mark Twain

The Good Reverend Roger

#3
May 24, 2005, 04:45:00 PM
Quote from: Zurtok KhanHrrrm...Roger, don't suppose I get any of your..."internal jihading" any time soon?

:twisted:

Internal, man, INTERNAL!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

#4
May 26, 2005, 10:06:31 AM
Heh.


That was very good.

But your piece failed to mention the fact that the previous Discordian Jihad was responsible for the attacks of the Face Raping Bats.
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"

Zurtok Khan

#5
May 26, 2005, 10:21:11 AM
Face raping bats? Where?
Resistance is Fertile.

Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more.
-Mark Twain

I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him.
-Mark Twain

/o\

#6
May 26, 2005, 10:09:45 PM
What i always thought was odd about people talking about balance is that its often about the idea that  balance is required and often not how to aquire it.
its pretty logical that balance is required for it means "everything in its right proportions" ?

To find it however is very hard.
or maybe just as easy as giving up.

:evil:

Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy

#7
May 26, 2005, 11:59:48 PM
Quote from: Vlad TepesWhat i always thought was odd about people talking about balance is that its often about the idea that  balance is required and often not how to aquire it.
its pretty logical that balance is required for it means "everything in its right proportions" ?

To find it however is very hard.
or maybe just as easy as giving up.

:evil:
I find balance all the time, well I see it anyway.  As I go from one extreme to another, I see balance as it goes flying by.  The more times I do this, the slower it goes, I actually spend a little time at balance now and the extremes are not as far out as they used to be.  I'm old :evil:

Zurtok Khan

#8
June 01, 2005, 08:51:22 AM
Quote from: Vlad TepesWhat i always thought was odd about people talking about balance is that its often about the idea that  balance is required and often not how to aquire it.
its pretty logical that balance is required for it means "everything in its right proportions" ?

To find it however is very hard.
or maybe just as easy as giving up.

:evil:

Well, it's like telling someone to find the state of Buddha-Mind.  I could talk all day about it (not that I'm saying I've found it, although in some of my more interesting moments, I have brushed up against it), but in the end I'd come out looking like an ass, because the experiance of it can only be understood at the basic psychological level of experiance.  Try explaining to a 5 year old how to ride a bike, it's about as fruitful as that.  Until the 5 year old is on the bike, they'll never understand how one learns to ride.
Resistance is Fertile.

Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more.
-Mark Twain

I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him.
-Mark Twain

LMNO

#9
June 01, 2005, 02:18:50 PM
Cf: The Zen parable of pointing to something rather than describing it.
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