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Illumination VS Enlightenment

Started by deet, August 13, 2005, 10:17:16 PM

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deet

(This has no supporting evidence. Do not read.)

Illumination is like a bonfire -- it casts light everywhere, but also creates shadows.
If uncontrolled, it will destroy all things in the surrounding area.
If tended to, it will give comfort and and a pleasant atmosphere.

Enlightenment is like a flashlight -- Focused and limited.
It can be used to blind those who do not have it.
Or used as a guide, to see through the shadows.
All walls have two sides.

Antechinus sapiens

Illumination is when someone shines a torch in your ear.
Enlightenment is when you're the torch.
Young, enthusiastic and stupid.

Iron Sulfide

Illumination is a word describing one thing.

Enlightenment is another word, that describes in a completely different
way, the same thing.
Ya' stupid Yank.

Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy

Quote from: Antechinus sapiensIllumination is when someone shines a torch in your ear.
Enlightenment is when you're the torch.

Question, are you a Brit describing a battery operated light, or an American describing a flaming piece of wood, or some other kind of person describing some other sort of thing   :?  :? :shock:

gnimbley

Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: Antechinus sapiensIllumination is when someone shines a torch in your ear.
Enlightenment is when you're the torch.

Question, are you a Brit describing a battery operated light, or an American describing a flaming piece of wood, or some other kind of person describing some other sort of thing   :?  :? :shock:

AHA! Another slip and we get closer to ascerning the true identity of
the man in the triangly hat! Alert DHS!

Antechinus sapiens

Quote from: gnimbley
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: Antechinus sapiensIllumination is when someone shines a torch in your ear.
Enlightenment is when you're the torch.

Question, are you a Brit describing a battery operated light, or an American describing a flaming piece of wood, or some other kind of person describing some other sort of thing   :?  :? :shock:

AHA! Another slip and we get closer to ascerning the true identity of
the man in the triangly hat! Alert DHS!
I'm a sentient being as yet unknown to science made entirely of chicken salt and oxo cubes. I was created in a lab* and my first memories are of listening to old Goon Show recordings played backwards by a confused Satanist.
*That is, where scientists tend to muck around with people's jeans and chemicals that go boom! and not a labrador. Nope, no siree.
Young, enthusiastic and stupid.

deet

Quote from: Antechinus sapiens
Quote from: gnimbley
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: Antechinus sapiens
*That is, where scientists tend to muck around with people's jeans and chemicals that go boom!

is this the version of 'the birds and the bees' that you got?
All walls have two sides.

DJRubberducky

Hm...I was going to say that illumination is external, and enlightenment is internal.  Is that the same thing you said, antechinus?
- DJRubberducky
Quote from: LMNODJ's post is sort of like those pills you drop into a glass of water, and they expand into a dinosaur, or something.

Black sheep are still sheep.

East Coast Hustle

Illumination and Enlightenment are just two more things that distract you from your REAL(tm) mission, which is to consume more than you produce.

now get back to your parasitic little lives and stop grasping at straws.

8)
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Horab Fibslager

Quote from: East Coast HustleIllumination and Enlightenment are just two more things that distract you from your REAL(tm) mission, which is to consume more than you produce.

now get back to your parasitic little lives and stop grasping at straws.

8)

when you can't fight what you repeatedly identify as the problem, spend your time whining about how others who dont' give a damn on the internet aren't doing enough.



illumination vs enlightment? they're both synonyms really, tho i undeerstand th ethinkig behind the topic. however you can enlighten someone and illuminate them and both would be the same thing, wether mentally spiritually or physically(mental awareness, spiriutal enlightment or turning on the wall swith) what you may be looking fo ris mystical technical jargon like satori and what not that are descriptors of actual quanitfied altered states as a result of heavy meditation and mental discipline. there are many paths to any sort fo such things, from meditation to sudden and uncalled for satori to whaetver. i'm exteremely rusty on my mystecal jargon speak.
Hell is other people.

East Coast Hustle

Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Horab Fibslager

i buy plenty.

anyways, i heard the nsra needs reinforcements, and boy are you in luck, walmart is having a sale on gi joe dolls!


anyways raw was right when he said the world of tomorrow would be a world of the imagination.

our imaginations have become our funeral biers, in which we are suphocated by the burnign effigies of our ficitonal heroes and un satisfied fantasies that we spend life pursuing while reality rolls on by and 600 african chidlren die every daywhiel wealthy daithminded persons battle for their souls while turd makes pizza and complains abotu the bottom line and wonders when the stick figures in his head will be come real and free him from this prisona nd move that railroad jsut a little further down the line...
Hell is other people.

AFK

It's all whatever you want it to be.  That's the great thing about words.  They have definitions in the dictionary but much like the Bible everyone has a different interpretation.

Just don't get too carried away with your machinations.  Or do.  But just make sure you take others with you.  It's starting to get crowded around here.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Horab Fibslager

QuoteWhen I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'

`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master -- that's all.'

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. `They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs: they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'

`Would you tell me please,' said Alice, `what that means?'

`Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. `I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.'

`That's a great deal to make one word mean,' Alice said in a thoughtful tone.

`When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, `I always pay it extra.'

as for where you'd make the distinction.

my point beign of course that enlightenemnt andillumination are synonyms, the difference between them is poetic preference, and hedging against vocabular repetiton, because as we all knwo redundancy makes for dry reading.

however satori and nirvana, which are both technical jargon in the psuedo scientific nomenclature of eastern(specifically) mysticism, can be comapred as they are not synonyms and  do not leand themselves to interchangeablity based on poetic preference.

it's a distinction fo communication, as opposed to lord humpty's iron grip over the wages of literature.
Hell is other people.

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: Horab Fibslageri buy plenty.

anyways, i heard the nsra needs reinforcements, and boy are you in luck, walmart is having a sale on gi joe dolls!


anyways raw was right when he said the world of tomorrow would be a world of the imagination.

our imaginations have become our funeral biers, in which we are suphocated by the burnign effigies of our ficitonal heroes and un satisfied fantasies that we spend life pursuing while reality rolls on by and 600 african chidlren die every daywhiel wealthy daithminded persons battle for their souls while turd makes pizza and complains abotu the bottom line and wonders when the stick figures in his head will be come real and free him from this prisona nd move that railroad jsut a little further down the line...

no offense, dude, but the stick figures in my head are far more real than you are.

8)
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"