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Discordian Philosophy vs. Discordian People

Started by ataraxia, September 29, 2005, 04:13:27 AM

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LHX

Quote from: CainYeah, we had a big talk on the neo-conservative ideology today in international relations, as we were doing theory.  They were what every Realist thinker feared, the "moralizing crusader" types who think they have the answers to everything for everyone. "Let justice be done though the heavens fall" types.  But thats another days rant.

yeah

wait until they crusade their way into a situation that their mouths cant talk out of


see how eager they are for the heavens to penetrate their asses


there are fates worse than getting yourself blown to bits
neat hell

Cain

Optimist.  Like they've ever been in the line of fire  :roll: .  No, they'll do what they've always done, pass the buck and let the grunts take the flak.  Let the kids in pressed khaki die for their theories and manipultive egos.  They'll be safe in a bunker surrounded by armed men while, as usual, other do their dirty work.

ataraxia

Wow. Damn this was a lot of responses. Even taking into account the normal threadjack and the metapunking, there was still a lot of response to this. That makes it a success in my book.

I think LHX, Rabid Badger, Verthaine, and fluffy made particularly good points - far too many for me to respond to much individually and still have time to sleep tonight. ;) metapunk, as usual, said some interesting stuff but then ruined it in presentation and development - wrecked motorcycle again. (You know, "punk" is also the name of a substance used to start fires. Coincidence? I think not.)

I will respond to Verthaine's first post, though. I actually agree. I was describing what I see here vs. real life. Internet Discordianism, if you will. I have no other observations to draw on other than books and my own mind. My own approach to Eris is fairly serious, but I have to walk a fine line since paying too much attention to Her seems to have consequences. Suffice it to say I do consider myself a KSC, I just like to keep quiet about it most of the time.
Lossage, sausage, whatever.
http://scoriens.andrew.cmu.edu/

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Verthaine
Quote from: LMNO
Quote from: metapunk
Or tying in the parallels of grey face and civilization, or that greyface is really a metaphor for domestication and civilization. Meaning that when we tried to kill the chaos of reality through imposing our internal concepts of order upon nature and everyone around us, we lose the ability to just be happy children dancing in the sunlight, picking fruits and vegetables, hunting rabbits and living as one with the external reality that could be dubbed nature or just life in general. When we feel like we need to do WORK or till the field or protect the castle, or whatever we take things way too seriously, and thus the greyface complex.


Please tell me you didn't just say that "domestication" and "civilization" are bad things, as you type out your ideology on a device that could not possibly exist without civilization, in a domecile that would not exist without domestication.

You remind me of all the socialists in college who lived off their trust fund left to them by their rich (capitalistic) grandfather.

Fuck this shit.I have no desire to be some shiny happy treehuggin hippy livin off the land.Fuck the "back to nature" mentality.In truth,nature is a bitch.
Don't get me wrong,I have nothing against nature,I just don;t want to go back being dirty stinking primitive savage.I hate the fact that the xtians took my ancestors out of the wilds of africa to be slave,but I have no desire to go back to my ancestors life style.
I like all the modern convienences.I love the internet.I want my Cartoon network.I want my playstation 2 back.
Nothing pisses me off more then some sanctemoniuos hippy/anarchist who looks down own me because I don't want to go back to eating veggies straight out the ground and tilling the fields.You know what I say to people like that:FUCK YOU FARMER RETARD.HOPE YOU GET FUCKED UP THE ASS BY A BEAR.
I also can't stand trustfund anarchists who want to "smash the system" while masterbating to Kropotkin.The problem with so many anarchists today is that they are so hardcore,they seem to be spending a lot of energy rebelling against the rules of GOOD HYGIENE.IF anarchists hate capitisim so much,send me all your money,so that you won't be tainted.
I have yet to meet an anarchist who can actually explain what the hell we do after we"smash the system".I've met so many aggro hippies and wanna be armchair anarchists,I know for a fact those are the first people to shit their pants if true anarchy happens(most of the gutterpunk anarchists in N'awlins hid in their squats during the aftermath of Katrina,leaving everyone else to go out and try to find food and water).

This is the correct pissed off Ancient Wiseguy.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LHX
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
The fascists have been running the world since 1900.

fixed

and discordians walk the world, UNTIL THEY ALL GET ROUNDED UP AND USED FOR SLAVE LABOR.

Fixed that for you, you hopeless fucking optimist.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

ataraxia

salve labor? Put to work in the lotion mines?
Lossage, sausage, whatever.
http://scoriens.andrew.cmu.edu/

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: ataraxiasalve labor? Put to work in the lotion mines?

You're a fucking scream.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LHX

sarcasm knucklehead




run the world?

thats some 1970's tv mentality we got going on here


its dr. no

right?
neat hell

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LHXsarcasm knucklehead




run the world?

thats some 1970's tv mentality we got going on here


its dr. no

right?

You only WISH it was something that cool.

Nope, sorry Sparky...they did it all the BORING way, by simply acquiring everything in sight, and dismantling the middle class.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LHX

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: LHXsarcasm knucklehead




run the world?

thats some 1970's tv mentality we got going on here


its dr. no

right?

You only WISH it was something that cool.

Nope, sorry Sparky...they did it all the BORING way, by simply acquiring everything in sight, and dismantling the middle class.


words from the ol' vet
who knows he gets a kick out of shit talking


you post like ali doing a rope-a-dope


LHX
he dont trust you
neat hell

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LHX

you post like ali doing a rope-a-dope


LHX
he dont trust you

1.  That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me, on this board. *sniff*

2.  That's good, because - as everyone knows, The Good Reverend cannot be trusted.  Just ask Mgt.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Verthaine

Quote from: metapunkI know that all of you fucking discordians are just a bunch of haters who seem to do anything you can to distance yourself from fucking anarchists which is just fine and dandy sit in your house on your computer and type inane shite all day until your fingers fall off.




I was merely drawing a metaphor between the rise of civilization and the rise of a greyface mentality. Of course since all of you are happily dependent upon pinks and greys to feed you then you really have no problems with the near enslavement of individuals suffering in 3rd world countries to produce the precious commodities like your playstation 2.
Hey you got it might as well play it.

First off,I too was stating my opinions.Since you seem to lump all us discordians on this board into one lump catagory,I took it upon myself to let you know who I AM.I don't have to put words into anyones mouth.I can use the words they put forth just as nicely.
Now I am going to ask you a question metapunk.

Since you seem to think all the members of this board(which I am a member of)do nothing all day but sit in front of a computer all day talking shit to one another,let me ask toy this.
WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU DURING kATRINA.
Wanna know where I was.I was sitting in my apt. in New Orleans hoping my building didn't crash down around me.Unlike most of the N.O. whaaanarchist who vamoosed as soon as they could get mommy and daddy ot take them home.I stayed behind becuase my home was the safest place I could be at the time.When Katrina ended I walked out to see my city in ruins.I looted wate and food,not just for myself,but for others less fortunate then I. I helped out old people,I got formula and diapers for babies(and some of those where the babies of punk rockers and anarchists to scared or lazy to do it on their own)
I am very familiar with many of the anarchists in this city,and you know what they were doing during all this.Looting money,booze,Playstations and X-boxes,along with the cops.Scuse me meta punk,but how many times did you have to pass the same dead body lying in the middle of the street on your way to get food and water.No lie.On Magazine and Jackson there was a dead body lying there for 4 days before some of the neighbors there buried it in an abandondoned lot to prevent the outbreak of disease,and to give the poor soul some dignity.I should know,I helped bury him.
If you really want to know what its like to live in anarchy,in an area where there is no law and order,ask the people who were raped and killed in the Superdome and Convention center.
I never had to carry a weapon in all the time I lived in N'awlins,until Katrina.Ever worried about someone killing you over food and water metapunk.Trust me,it isn't a nice feeling.Ever had cops come up to you and tell you you not only have to leave your home,but the city you live in.Hows that for greyface mentality.I survived because I understand the Way of Eris.I just don't talk about chaos,confusion and strife,I survive it.

You know what Mp,fuck a bunch a third world people.I'm a nigger in America..N'awlins is a third world city right smack in the middle of America.Wheres your symphathy for me.What are you doing to help me get my city back.Can you give me my job back.Can you bring back all my friends and co-workers who are scattered across the country? .Do you have a home metapunk.I can't get back to mine yet because I need an id,and guess what,all my i.d. is at N'awlins.
You come on this baord waving your moral superiority around like your Long Dong Silver.What gives you the right to come on this forum and tell anyone here how to be a discordian.What have you done to merit you someone like St.Hugh,Ssbella,TGGR,and all the others on this board how to be a discordian.
Lets face it,the real reason you call us hatersisd because we didn't automatically fall on our knees and kiss your ass the moment you arrived on this board .
This forum id the true face of anarchism.You either run with the wolves,or you get eaten by the wolves.(except for Fluffy,because she can probably totally kick the crap out of a wolf).
Vincent Sebastian Verthaine, K.S.C.
Omni-Belevolent Poly- Father of Hedonism In Black of The Erisian Holy City of the Discordian Parish of New Orleans.

Goddess-Son of Sssbela,Prophetess of Doom

Pastor of the Church of Eris,New Orleans

B_M_W

I'm rooting for ya Verithaine. Justice WILL be served.

BMW
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached. Our key word: Resolve. Evangelize with compassion and determination. And realize that there will be few in the beginning. We are hand picking our successors. They are the future of Discordianism. Let us guide our future with intelligence.

     --Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=9801.0


6.5 billion Buddhas walking around.

99.xxxxxxx% forgot they are Buddha.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: metapunkI know that all of you fucking discordians are just a bunch of haters who seem to do anything you can to distance yourself from fucking anarchists which is just fine and dandy sit in your house on your computer and type inane shite all day until your fingers fall off.


I think I speak for most of us when I say:

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Shibboleet The Annihilator

Verthain just went from a 9/10 to a 12/10 in my book (not at anyone reads that horrible book). I see what Roger was talking about now.