Ancient Greeks and Eris

[the last yatto]

In Egyptian mythology, Taweret and in Greek, Θουέρις "Thoeris" and Toeris)

TO-Eris (Greek Ἔρις(epic  )", "Strife")
FROM egypt?

[Kai]

In Egyptian mythology, Taweret and in Greek, Θουέρις "Thoeris" and Toeris)

TO-Eris (Greek Ἔρις(epic  )", "Strife")
FROM egypt?

that's not epsilon-pi-rho-kappa, that's epsilon-rho-iota-sigma.

eris, not epic.

[Rococo Modem Basilisk]

TO-Eris (Greek Ἔρις(epic  )", "Strife")

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

I really enjoyed reading the actual mythology bits... nice work...

thanks.

[Reginald Ret]

still needs a lot of cleanup, but here's a more workable version in Italian

I took the PDF we found, viewed as plain text, and C&P'd all 60 pages by hand into a text file. Then added line breaks and bolded the speakers.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Dialogue_of_Discordia


using Babelfish to translate THAT page:

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-res&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.principiadiscordia.com%2Fcramulus%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DDialogue_of_Discordia&lp=it_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

still messy, but you can get some of the gist of it

one of these days i might put some more hours of work into translating that. it will be badly translated (since i know no italian (i think i said this before)) but its a way to keep my mind active. the current rate is roughly 1 word/minute :P

[Telarus]

I'm breaking this thread out of it's box a little and exploring Eris connections to other mythologies:

http://www.experiencefestival.com/golden_apple/articleindex

In Norse mythology, golden apples grant immortal life to the Gods. They are cultivated by the Goddess Iðunn.

Golden apples are an important element in Richard Wagner's opera Das Rheingold, prelude of the tetralogy Der Ring des Nibelungen. After building the Walhall for the gods, the giants Fafner and Fasolt asked Wotan to give them Freia, the goddes who cultivates golden apples, as Wotan promised them. When the giants took Freia away, the gods suddenly became old and weak. It convinced Wotan to go to Nibelheim with Loge in order to steal the ring from Alberich, thus getting a substitute for Freia that would please the giants.

Golden apples are associated with a leitmotif. It is first sung by Fafner, when he explains to his brother Fasolt why they must take Freia away from the gods.

[Telarus]

Bump.

I'm still looking for translations of Peroni's Dialogo della Discordia in english, not really finding much.

Here's some other interesting tidbits:

-(picked up from my art history book) The 'missing' left hand of the Venus de Milo hold the Apple of Discord (the statue shows her, Aphrodite, having just received it from Paris):
    http://ezinearticles.com/?The-History-of-the-Venus-de-Milo&id=1084199

-Joachim Wtewael (1600's Dutch painter) painted a oil-on-copper mural depicting the Wedding of Peleus and Thetis, which you can find here (you can see Eris about to lob the apple):
    http://public.fotki.com/ensky/museums/clark/_dsc4651.html

[Cramulus]

BUMP in case anybody speaks Italian.

Anybody speak Italian?

[NotPublished]

Bonjour Senior

[maphdet]

Not Italian but fluent in Greek. Just throwing that out there.

[Reginald Ret]

Not Italian but fluent in Greek. Just throwing that out there.

close enough, start translating.

[Iason Ouabache]

May have found someone on Twitter who is willing to help with the translation. I'll let you know when she gets back to me.

[the last yatto]

This goes all the way back to the Ancient Greeks (read: "Homer"). The Apple of Discord was inscribed ΚΑΛΛΊΣΤῌ ("For the fairest") by Eris, Goddess of Strife, and thrown into the round of undeniably vain Olympians, eventually resulting in the Trojan War. Gods sure tend to overreact... Then there's also Hera's orchard of golden apples in the Garden of the Hesperides, and the golden apples Hippomenes used to win a race against Atalanta, earning the right to marry her. Don't get 'em mixed up.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HowDoYouLikeThemApples

part bump

[the last yatto]

5 AD
Polycharmus Azenius, the Archon of Athens,
pronounced the punishment of ostrakon, or exile, for Megas, the last surviving Grecian priest of Eris
erisiana.pdf

[Rococo Modem Basilisk]

5 AD
Polycharmus Azenius, the Archon of Athens,
pronounced the punishment of ostrakon, or exile, for Megas, the last surviving Grecian priest of Eris
erisiana.pdf

Woah.