You guys are killing this forum and through it, Dischordianism itself.
(http://i.imgur.com/2yshjeN.png)
The forum stats show that not only are you failing to attract new users, you're actively driving away old ones. I say "you" because there's clearly a core group of users who have been here from near the start, and I say you're the ones doing it because that makes you the only common denominator. It's not a question of people naturally losing interest in the cause/philosophy/religion/whatever, something like this can potentially survive indefinitely; it has no natural life-cycle. Under RAW and his mates, it grew explosively.
But it's obviously dying now. There's plenty of debate in the archives where you've argued and defended your reasons for doing what you do impeccably, I'm sure you could effectively out-reason or belittle me as you have done so many other nutcases, but it really doesn't matter how well you can justify it to others or even yourselves if it's not working.
Have you not noticed or do you just not give a shit? Answers on a postcard, please.
inb4 pointless reaction gifs and smilies
Because you were being too subtle about it before.
Ho ho, good rebuttal, chap. That sure proved the forum stats to be something other than what they are!
While you're trusting the forum stats, you should also check out your badass post count.
Ho ho, good rebuttal, chap. That sure proved the forum stats to be something other than what they are!
Dear me.
>There's plenty of debate in the archives where you've argued and defended your reasons for doing what you do impeccably, I'm sure you could effectively out-reason or belittle me as you have done so many other nutcases, but it really doesn't matter how well you can justify it to others or even yourselves if it's not working.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 11:22:46 AM
Ho ho, good rebuttal, chap. That sure proved the forum stats to be something other than what they are!
Dear me.
>There's plenty of debate in the archives where you've argued and defended your reasons for doing what you do impeccably, I'm sure you could effectively out-reason or belittle me as you have done so many other nutcases, but it really doesn't matter how well you can justify it to others or even yourselves if it's not working.
:|
The least you could have done is give it a while to develop your persona and some credibility, build up our expectations that you might not be utterly worthless, before pulling the "YOU'RE DOING DISCORDIA WRONG" card. Seriously, what is it with trolls these days and blowing their load at the first sign of skin?
There's none so blind as those who won't see.
I had a chat with monad about this post on #discord.
Unfortunately, I wasted a good 10 minutes of my time describing how he could improve the main post to get his point across without being a dick and clarifying what he meant. However, he has "other communities" to tend to, and we are not apparently worth the time or effort to rephrase his above efforts.
So feel free to have at him.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
You guys are killing this forum and through it, Dischordianism itself.
(http://i.imgur.com/2yshjeN.png)
The forum stats show that not only are you failing to attract new users, you're actively driving away old ones. I say "you" because there's clearly a core group of users who have been here from near the start, and I say you're the ones doing it because that makes you the only common denominator. It's not a question of people naturally losing interest in the cause/philosophy/religion/whatever, something like this can potentially survive indefinitely; it has no natural life-cycle. Under RAW and his mates, it grew explosively.
But it's obviously dying now. There's plenty of debate in the archives where you've argued and defended your reasons for doing what you do impeccably, I'm sure you could effectively out-reason or belittle me as you have done so many other nutcases, but it really doesn't matter how well you can justify it to others or even yourselves if it's not working.
Have you not noticed or do you just not give a shit? Answers on a postcard, please.
inb4 pointless reaction gifs and smilies
That's part of the story. It's one I've mentioned before. Yes the forum is like sticking your arm into a basket full of asps. There's a bit more to it than that.
It's not just the hostility though because there are plenty of hostile websites that are thriving. This place was just as hostile in 2008 which was crazy busy year here.
We were publicised a lot more back then too, activities that were going on brought people into the forum. They were fun simple concepts that brought a lot of people in like postergasm, the discordian mascarade, the Eris Easter egg painting. The Fucking Orange eating Competition ( I think this actually killed more people than it brought in).
It's that there are no common banners or uniting activities going on, people are writing, people discuss politics as much but maybe not as much philosophy as we used to.
But drivers such as Intermittens publications and the like just aren't there and a big reason for it is our core members don't really have as much free time.
You say the forum is dying and Killing discordianism, but over the last six months where I've made an active effort to publicise activities and publications from around the discordian society I've seen an increase in site traffic: Just not to the forums.
Maybe the forum activity will decline further, the trend is certainly there but that isn't the be all and end all of Discordianism. I think Discorianism is getting on fine, thriving even, just not the forum.
Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the forum is so horrible it's turning everyone off the concept.
If so provide your solutions plz.
Yes, Cain. I believe that conversation ended with
>that was kind of you but you know perfectly well my comments are valid whether I phrase them in such a way to please the natives or not
>I've pointed out the iceberg to the people on the ship. if they want to argue with me about it I really couldn't give a fuck
Coming on here and declaring open season on me is the petty bullying behaviour that (I see as) part of the problem.
Faust, I hope you're right and I'm wrong, for Eris's sake.
You want my suggestions? Change the board software, discourage this atmosphere of cliques and circle-jerking. Kusaba X is open source. Instate rules and mods who actively discourage the memetic cancers that boards acquire over time, all this daily-post, navel-gazing horseshit. Discourage the import of generic internet culture and try to encourage development of new ideas and fresh content. Might work, might not. Just some suggestions, I'm not omniscient.
Kasuba is the 4chan/2chan etc board style?
I prefer it's category structure but the look and feel are on a par with smf (IE terrible).
I've been looking around at board software Burning boards seemed nice, VBulleten nearly had me ready to buy and then they were found to be horribly insecure and got hacked.
It's something I keep revisiting because forum software aestetics look quite dated compared to the dynamic content sites.
But they have their place because for long sequential discussion of detailed topics the likes of reddit aren't great. People vote populist shit to the top which tends to be the variations of posts we've seen before and anything more engaging but long or out of the ordinary tends to sink.
The issue isn't the software though. It's getting people and making them stay. Simple marketing.
We need to publicise the stuff we do, ESPECIALLY the stuff that Others can get involved in.
We need more fun activities, that are simple enough to get others in. One of the big things we used to do was forum invasions and safaris. That not only brought a lot of people together we started claiming war brides from the sites we invaded. That died a death right around the time that the activity decline started.
And finally once people are here, we need to hold them. We've got their attention so we need to apply it to things, The general discussions are often enough for that, but in many cases they are not.
Also for the insular/too many circlejerks concern. I've been looking at how to allow people to post here by logging in via Facebook, g+ login etc. That breaks down barriers, stops users having to go through that horrible registration but can have scary ramifications.
Hoo boy.
This was a record in reaching "YUO ARE TEH CANCER WHAT IS KILLING PD".
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
Under RAW and his mates, it grew explosively.
RAW never posted here.
He probably never even knew this site existed.
Of course principiadiscordia.com is the be all and end all of discordianism and as such should be differed to as the Authority on all things Discordian.
Quote from: Pæs on February 24, 2014, 11:28:50 AM
The least you could have done is give it a while to develop your persona and some credibility, build up our expectations that you might not be utterly worthless, before pulling the "YOU'RE DOING DISCORDIA WRONG" card. Seriously, what is it with trolls these days and blowing their load at the first sign of skin?
Kids these days.
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: Pæs on February 24, 2014, 11:28:50 AM
The least you could have done is give it a while to develop your persona and some credibility, build up our expectations that you might not be utterly worthless, before pulling the "YOU'RE DOING DISCORDIA WRONG" card. Seriously, what is it with trolls these days and blowing their load at the first sign of skin?
Kids these days.
At least this one is trying. He has to tell us WHAT.
Which is better than the last 2-3, who just sat their and whimpered.
Quote from: Faust on February 24, 2014, 03:13:30 PM
He probably never even knew this site existed.
Of course principiadiscordia.com is the be all and end all of discordianism and as such should be differed to as the Authority on all things Discordian.
Are those numbers by month or total?
Because, you know, it's only February.
A lot of the people who used to post hundreds of times a day (ie. me) are still here, but posting less because life.
IME a forum needs at least 2-3 very prolific daily posters who get along, and a minimum of two prolific posters who hate each other. This forms a backbone that supports all the come-and-go and lighter posters.
But the bottom line really is that this oldschool forum format isn't very popular anymore, and I think people are migrating to the low-pressure low-effort, less-engagement-required formats provided by Reddit and Facebook. I mean, even I don't even bother trolling webforums anymore, Facebook groups are where it's at when it comes to making people dig in their heels and screech. On the other hand, our members have produced how many publications? I haven't even gotten much by way of contributions for Bitter Tea from the thousands of Facebook members. I think I got one, whereas I think members here have contributed enough for a pretty solid volume in the last year.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
You guys are killing this forum and through it, Dischordianism itself.
I want to kill "Dischordianism". I want to stake its fucking heart, stick it in a steamer trunk, and hide it in Waffle Iron's attic.
I also wish to do the same thing to anyone who would mangle the English language by spelling Discordianism with the extra "h" that has no fucking business hanging out there.
You fucking Facebook hippies are all the same.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on February 24, 2014, 03:20:41 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: Pæs on February 24, 2014, 11:28:50 AM
The least you could have done is give it a while to develop your persona and some credibility, build up our expectations that you might not be utterly worthless, before pulling the "YOU'RE DOING DISCORDIA WRONG" card. Seriously, what is it with trolls these days and blowing their load at the first sign of skin?
Kids these days.
At least this one is trying. He has to tell us WHAT.
Which is better than the last 2-3, who just sat their and whimpered.
This is true. At least he gave it a good college try.
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on February 24, 2014, 03:20:41 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: Pæs on February 24, 2014, 11:28:50 AM
The least you could have done is give it a while to develop your persona and some credibility, build up our expectations that you might not be utterly worthless, before pulling the "YOU'RE DOING DISCORDIA WRONG" card. Seriously, what is it with trolls these days and blowing their load at the first sign of skin?
Kids these days.
At least this one is trying. He has to tell us WHAT.
Which is better than the last 2-3, who just sat their and whimpered.
This is true. At least he gave it a good college try.
But not like, say, Poptard or AKK. Now THERE were a couple of spags. Olympic-level moaners that dominated half the board before finally exploding.
Since we're using postcounts to prove something, when did postcount skyrocket? 2007. When did I get here? 2007. When did post count really drop off? 2012. When did I go back to school, hence no longer having time to sit here and post all day?
That's right. 2012.
It's all me, Monad.
Allllll me.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on February 24, 2014, 03:31:31 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on February 24, 2014, 03:20:41 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: Pæs on February 24, 2014, 11:28:50 AM
The least you could have done is give it a while to develop your persona and some credibility, build up our expectations that you might not be utterly worthless, before pulling the "YOU'RE DOING DISCORDIA WRONG" card. Seriously, what is it with trolls these days and blowing their load at the first sign of skin?
Kids these days.
At least this one is trying. He has to tell us WHAT.
Which is better than the last 2-3, who just sat their and whimpered.
This is true. At least he gave it a good college try.
But not like, say, Poptard or AKK. Now THERE were a couple of spags. Olympic-level moaners that dominated half the board before finally exploding.
AKK, really, for sure. Poptard was too repetitive.
I still have an old soft spot in my heart for Dead Kennedy.
I will say that I still, by far, prefer the oldest-first threaded discussion forum format in terms of interesting conversations that can easily be revisited. Every time one platform dies I spend a while seeking a new one.
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on February 24, 2014, 03:31:31 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on February 24, 2014, 03:20:41 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: Pæs on February 24, 2014, 11:28:50 AM
The least you could have done is give it a while to develop your persona and some credibility, build up our expectations that you might not be utterly worthless, before pulling the "YOU'RE DOING DISCORDIA WRONG" card. Seriously, what is it with trolls these days and blowing their load at the first sign of skin?
Kids these days.
At least this one is trying. He has to tell us WHAT.
Which is better than the last 2-3, who just sat their and whimpered.
This is true. At least he gave it a good college try.
But not like, say, Poptard or AKK. Now THERE were a couple of spags. Olympic-level moaners that dominated half the board before finally exploding.
AKK, really, for sure. Poptard was too repetitive.
I still have an old soft spot in my heart for Dead Kennedy.
Yes, he was a wretched little misogynist, but he was completely serious about it, and that made me giggle my horribly scarred ass right off.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on February 24, 2014, 03:26:12 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 24, 2014, 03:13:30 PM
He probably never even knew this site existed.
Of course principiadiscordia.com is the be all and end all of discordianism and as such should be differed to as the Authority on all things Discordian.
Are those numbers by month or total?
Because, you know, it's only February.
Month on month, and yearly:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=stats
So I wouldn't include february but if we look at January
Topics:123 Posts:5081 Members:22 Most online:66
and 2013
Topics:131 Posts:5249 members:31 Most online:107
On a par
but
2012
Topics299 posts:10175 members:35 most online:49
But that's just January, if you look year on year on average there is marked and steady reduction in the number of new members and a marked and steady reduction in the number of posts by existing members since about 2008
Part of it is forum technology isn't as nice as other sites (though it remains by far the best way to engage with large groups of people on complex issues)
and most forums have seen a decline.
The other part is culture: we don't have that many hooks to drag people in any more, the forum invasions, postergasms, and organge eating contests really bring people in and retain them. It hasn't much to do with hostility or circlejerks or anything, just a matter of hooking new people, and retaining them.
Quote from: Faust on February 24, 2014, 03:42:56 PM
The other part is culture: we don't have that many hooks to drag people in any more, the forum invasions, postergasms, and organge eating contests really bring people in and retain them. It hasn't much to do with hostility or circlejerks or anything, just a matter of hooking new people, and retaining them.
Most of our driven regulars are at FB, is why.
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 03:36:41 PM
I will say that I still, by far, prefer the oldest-first threaded discussion forum format in terms of interesting conversations that can easily be revisited. Every time one platform dies I spend a while seeking a new one.
Yeah, I'm not going anywhere, either.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on February 24, 2014, 03:43:50 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 24, 2014, 03:42:56 PM
The other part is culture: we don't have that many hooks to drag people in any more, the forum invasions, postergasms, and organge eating contests really bring people in and retain them. It hasn't much to do with hostility or circlejerks or anything, just a matter of hooking new people, and retaining them.
Most of our driven regulars are at FB, is why.
I don't agree, I've been monitoring them for some time to validate this when it was said previously. Placid dingo is definitely active in his stuff, and he is doing some cool shit like visiting discordians and discordian projects etc so he is one person who definitely is more active there but I can't really fault him on that, things were difficult for him here, and for the sakes of this thread I would like to limit the history of that to it being down to creative differences.
Cramulus posts occasionally over there but not to a huge extent, maybe once or twice a week. I'd say he posts here about as much if not more. He is dreamy *Sigh* and great at getting people involved. We need to weaponise his essence, like some kind of pharamone musk.
There may be others from here who went over that I don't recognise but I'm not sure.
Part of it could also be that people just put less effort into things now adays. If you look at the kind of shit that is posted on facebook, it tends to be one liner comments on news items, links and youtube. Comments are just summed up by Liking something. It allows you to interact with others without you know, actually interacting with them.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on February 24, 2014, 03:46:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 03:36:41 PM
I will say that I still, by far, prefer the oldest-first threaded discussion forum format in terms of interesting conversations that can easily be revisited. Every time one platform dies I spend a while seeking a new one.
Yeah, I'm not going anywhere, either.
Nor is there a need to. There is a baseline that we don't go below, when things are quiet, so be it. When things are active, joy.
Speaking only for myself, the reason I don't post as much/get creative stuff going is because of a lack of sufficient boredom. I have too much going on. I also haven't made any art for two years.
If I get to a point where I'm bored in a lab, you can bet your bottom dollar I'll get back to it.
Anyway, basically I don't think it's any coincidence that the dropoff in traffic and community-building/creative activities has such a strong correlation with the recession. And ALL the forums I'm on are slow as fuck. Even Facebook is slow. I think that a lot of posters have shifted there because it's mostly one-liners/low energy required, but the reason they're so low energy is because they're expending their energy on survival, like work or school.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 11:38:31 AM
There's none so blind as those who won't see.
There's none so blind as those who have no fucking eyeballs.
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 04:06:05 PM
Anyway, basically I don't think it's any coincidence that the dropoff in traffic and community-building/creative activities has such a strong correlation with the recession. And ALL the forums I'm on are slow as fuck. Even Facebook is slow. I think that a lot of posters have shifted there because it's mostly one-liners/low energy required, but the reason they're so low energy is because they're expending their energy on survival, like work or school.
No, no, it's because You People are DOING IT WRONG. Monad is just trying to HELP by showing what a pack of assholes we are. This is, of course, a BRILLIANT way to communicate an idea and win people over to your way of thinking.
I mean, just look at the first and last sentences in the OP. Monad is a fucking GENIUS and You People would do well to listen to the nuggets of wisdom that tumble forth from his butthole.
I can give you the cliff notes:
QuoteI JUST WANT TO SAY THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALL LOSERS AND YOU SUCK BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME THE PEEDEE I WANTED, THE ONE THAT WAS BUILT FOR ME, AND IN B4 SMILIES AND GIFS YOU TARDS.
Now, doesn't that make you want to change your mind and join the side of the angels? Doesn't that make you listen to the content of his posts?
Never mind the fact that he's comparing 2 months of 2014 to 12 months from other years. That's NOT IMPORTANT. It's the THOUGHT that counts.
So get your shit right. Monad has taken some valuable time out of his/her day to EDUCATE us, and frankly, I think You People are being ungrateful shits.
It's easy to have original thoughts when you don't understand how numbers work.
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 06:42:08 PM
It's easy to have original thoughts when you don't understand how numbers work.
Monad was just establishing his cred.
It seems to me that there are just a whole load of Discordians who are just so very butthurt that principiadiscordia.com is already taken, and by not-very-nice-people at all, to boot.
Waa, waaaaaaaahhhhh.
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 06:44:31 PM
It seems to me that there are just a whole load of Discordians who are just so very butthurt that principiadiscordia.com is already taken, and by not-very-nice-people at all, to boot.
Waa, waaaaaaaahhhhh.
I don't know what you're talking about, I'm VERY nice.
Very VERY VERY NICE.
I have said it before, but, you know, webhosting is not all that difficult, compared with say getting a PhD. Not to knock all the hard work, time, money, and effort you put in Faust. I am just saying that if all these whiny, peace-loving Discordians ought to go build their own sandbox to save Discordjia if they feel so keen to keep it safe.
They never do, they just whine and cry.
Also, I think it's pretty funny that monad was trying to prove how mean we all are, and then met up with me trying to genuinely encourage him to stay, and still can't let go of that meme. Kinda funny, anyway.
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 06:44:31 PM
It seems to me that there are just a whole load of Discordians who are just so very butthurt that principiadiscordia.com is already taken, and by not-very-nice-people at all, to boot.
Waa, waaaaaaaahhhhh.
That's the whole thing with the fucking Facebook Discordian retards. It's been obvious for a while.
Quote from: Nigel on February 24, 2014, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 06:44:31 PM
It seems to me that there are just a whole load of Discordians who are just so very butthurt that principiadiscordia.com is already taken, and by not-very-nice-people at all, to boot.
Waa, waaaaaaaahhhhh.
I don't know what you're talking about, I'm VERY nice.
Sooooooo nice. Like sunshine reflecting off a tiger's teeth.
How about any one of these:
newworlddiscordia.com
newandimprovedpd.com
superhappyeris.com
betterthanpd.com.com
peaceanderis.com
cantweallgetalong.com
fuckpd.com.com
mybuttfeelslikeitsfilledwithbrokenglass.com
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 06:52:56 PM
How about any one of these:
newworlddiscordia.com
newandimprovedpd.com
superhappyeris.com
betterthanpd.com.com
peaceanderis.com
cantweallgetalong.com
fuckpd.com.com
mybuttfeelslikeitsfilledwithbrokenglass.com
randomgibberish.com
urdoinitwrong.com
gurusRus.com
Uncle BadTouch.com
iwussedoutandrantotumblr.com
ihatethosepdjerks.com
Any or all of these would be sure to garner many quality posters, with creative, original, and inclusive material that will spread the message of Eris, that we chould all get along and be nicer to each other no matter what, to the far reaches of the globe.
So GET ON IT, ASSCLOWNS.
Dear Butthurt Really Really Real Discordians:
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
- JR "Bob" Dobbs
What THEIR Discordia is, is different from YOUR Discordia or MY Discordia. MY Discordia has an actual set of parameters, none of which include indulging patchouli-stinking hippies who think the height of original thought is screeching "SMOKE EVERY DAY!" Nor is it finding ways to kiss the pimply arse of people from those OTHER RELIGIONS who spend all day trying to think of faux-witty, cutesy "proofs" with which to convert me.
And I'm reasonably sure My Discordia doesn't involve empathy or "expanded perceptions", or any of that other touchy-feely claptrap. I in fact shit on the very idea from a great height. My perceptions are FINE, it's what I DO with those perceptions that I have to work on...And if someone hasn't got empathy, that person is a Goddamn sociopath and it's TOO LATE for me to help him/her.
There is no need to dress Discordia up in a nice suit (unless it's to get close enough to do something you couldn't otherwise do) to make the Pinkboys feel more comfortable about their pot obsession. There is no need to pretend it's something that it's not so that Christians or 7th Day Adventists or Pastafarians will feel welcome. If they're MY kind of people, even if they belong to the above groups, they ALREADY feel comfortable, and everyone else can just SHUT UP.
ETA: That's MY Discordia. Yours may be different.
Another thing:
The biggest tendency I've seen among Facebook Discordians is to treat anyone they disagree with as being less than human...And I'm not just talking about the TDS retards. St Mae/Autumn Tyr-Salvia once flat-out told me I wasn't actually a person, because I disagreed with her about a protest. She said something like
QuoteHamish, I know you're just a troll, but not now. This isn't the time.
Needless to say, I blocked her on account of I don't take that sort of dehumanizing shit from anyone. And it's not just her...It's so prevalent that I don't even bother with the FB Discordians anymore.
We may be assholes here, but at least we don't pretend that the people we're scrapping with don't actually count as humans.
While engaging with gonad is a total waste of time, I am interested in the discussion of whether we're using the right tech.
I'm a big fan at the moment of Discourse (http://www.discourse.org/) but it's still a very early build and not quite ready for production unless you have a few code-wranglers willing to beat it into behaving. I'll probably spin up a copy of it on Heroku at some point to play with it.
I have, throughout my time here, had a look at imageboard software for a 23chan, but seriously? So much nope. Bring Discordianism into the future by regressing to that? And the type of people that tool would attract. Horrible, horrible. Facebook Discordians and worse.
This is a serious place for serious Discord.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 06:52:56 PM
How about any one of these:
newworlddiscordia.com
newandimprovedpd.com
superhappyeris.com
betterthanpd.com.com
peaceanderis.com
cantweallgetalong.com
fuckpd.com.com
mybuttfeelslikeitsfilledwithbrokenglass.com
randomgibberish.com
urdoinitwrong.com
gurusRus.com
Uncle BadTouch.com
iwussedoutandrantotumblr.com
ihatethosepdjerks.com
DiscordianFinalSolution.com
Quote from: Pæs on February 24, 2014, 08:10:15 PM
While engaging with gonad is a total waste of time, I am interested in the discussion of whether we're using the right tech.
I'm a big fan at the moment of Discourse (http://www.discourse.org/) but it's still a very early build and not quite ready for production unless you have a few code-wranglers willing to beat it into behaving. I'll probably spin up a copy of it on Heroku at some point to play with it.
I have, throughout my time here, had a look at imageboard software for a 23chan, but seriously? So much nope. Bring Discordianism into the future by regressing to that? And the type of people that tool would attract. Horrible, horrible. Facebook Discordians and worse.
This is a serious place for serious Discord.
To each their own, I guess.
It's even funnier if you're on #discord
Quote<monad>Cain, 000, I've made a post in TfYS that's unlikely to be very popular but it is well intentioned. I would be curious to know what you actually think, rather than being dismissed as trolling
<Cain>I'll have a look
<monad>I didn't use the most polite language in it, but from looking at older posts on the board it felt needed in order to pre-emptively defend what I was saying
<Cain>the declining numbers could have a possible number of causes
<triplezero>cause something hitting virality is basically a tiny random chance, due to all the small factors involved (that make it seem obvious in hindsight, if it weren'
<Cain>yeah, that wont help, the tone you used
<triplezero>weren't different small factos all the time)
<Cain>a lot of forums all over the internet are having troubles retaining numbers though
<Cain>it's not just PD
<Cain>a lot of social networking now takes place via websites like reddit, twitter and facebook, and not so much on forums
<monad>I think in many cases it's because a similar thing is happening in terms of the way the communities form
<triplezero>and then you get, like these pigeons who'd get food randomly, but as long as there's buttons and levers to press, they will invent ridiculous amounts of ritual, because that's certainly to do it
<triplezero>this may cause the average tumblr person to step up to ridiculous heights of preachery, because of the tiny random chance of suddenly hitting a large audience
<Cain>yes
<Cain>I think some of the Less Wrong posts about professing beliefs and cult death spirals also apply here
<monad>Believing in Magic: The Psychology of Superstition by Stuart Vyse goes into the pigeon thing quite well, tz
<Cain>I'd look up the exact ones, but I'm modding Skyrim (again)
<monad>that's quite a sound theory though
<Cain>personally, I hate things like FB and Twitter
<triplezero>i just had to think, tiny chance of huge success == people will go absolutely mental figuring out "the trick" (whether there is one, or whether one can reliably influence it, or not)
<Cain>I like the relative pseudonymity of a forum, and the simplicity of layout
<triplezero>im away
<monad>I agree
<monad>but the persistent personalities mean cliques form and people pick sides
<Cain>of course
<Cain>but that means people forming emotional attachments to the forum itself
<monad>what good is that if in doing so they kill it?
<Cain>that's what rules, an ethos and culture are for - to mitigate the extremes of emotional attachment when they become dangerous
<Cain>that's why almost all "general discussion" forums fail
<monad>I would suggest maybe you could have an imageboard variant which requires signing up, keeps user stats but doesn't make them too easily available
<Cain>because there is no guiding ethos aside from "having a chat"
<monad>but maybe I am biased.
<monad>yes
<monad>but isn't the point to discuss dischordian things, rather than have little chats about day to day life?
<Cain>incidentally, I'm basically paraphrasing Machiavelli at this point, substituting "cities" for forums
<monad>that's alright, I have read his work
<Cain>on PD? Sure. but Discordian discussion can only be taken so far. we had some very productive years where we picked apart things in detail, but there isn't a lot there to discuss without endlessly going over the same things time and time again
<Cain>and since everyone already knows where people fall on those arguments and so on, it seems a little bit pointless
<Cain>we've done quite a few writing projects too
<Cain>but, well, a lot of the people who did those are busy with things
<monad>it does seem that a focus on pushing forward into something new rather than having fiddly little debates over the old work would be sensible
<monad>whatever the case is
<Cain>yep. we've done aspects of that. but finding the time is tricky. also the financial crisis hit a lot of people pretty hard. I mean, I did some of my best PD posts while I was at Uni...nowadays I got bills to pay and stuff
<monad>it is currently dying and will continue to unless something changes. I don't really know what would need to be done, and I'm not trying to be a dickhead about it, it just seems clear enough. and apparently you see it too so I'm not really sure what else to say
<Cain>oh boy, yet another sweetheart deal from Stratfor. because I really want to pay $129 a year for "open source intelligence", aka reading the papers
<monad>I understand that, I don't blame you for it particularly
<monad>or at all even, the financial bit anyway
<Cain>well, if you want to start a serious discussion on that, I would suggest putting it more in the terms and tone you have in our chat in a follow up post
<monad>at least you'll always be fed with all the free spam
<Cain>the free spam is occasionally amusing
<Cain>not least because it reminds me people are paying for their dreck
<Cain>and I suppose they keep Fred Burton away from any governmental positions where he could actually do real damage
<Cain>it's also worth considering the sometimes cyclical nature of internet communities too
<monad>I don't have the energy to try and have a sensible debate about it on the boards, I can't imagine a situation where it won't be responded to in much the same way as they've responded to every other "testimonial"
<Cain>when I joined up a decade ago, PD had just emerged from the "Discordian Civil War", and the aftershocks of that drove quite a few more people away, as well
<monad>the more you tell me the more hopeless it seems. which is a major pity
<Cain>if you don't have the energy for it, then people are going to treat your OP as your actual beliefs. if you want a serious, nuanced discussion, you have to put up the goods first. you're an unknown quantity, and people are going to base their opinions on you on the available data and act accordingly
<monad>I understand that but I have no particular reason to want to do that
<monad>I have my own communities to attend to
<Cain>well, I just felt like I wasted 10 minutes discussing this with you. so well done
<monad>then I apologise for trying to be helpful
<monad>if you don't want to do anything about it, it's no skin off my nose and I don't think any less of you
<Cain>that's not being helpful. I was being helpful, in telling you how to rephrase your original criticisms in a way that would get them perhaps discussed and debated, rather than dismissed. if you're not going to bother because you have, and I quote "your own communities to tend to" then feel free to fuck off to them
Later on:
Quote<monad>cain, grow up and stop whinging about it. my tone was entirely justified.
<BDSimpleton>lol
- tumbleweed joined
<BDSimpleton>that's cute
* tumbleweed rolls across the channel
- tumbleweed left
<BDSimpleton>"i have 60 posts on a forum and i'm going to tell everyone that they're doing it really wrong. and i'm not going to be nice about it either."
<BDSimpleton>"deal w/ it"
<triplezero>"I stuck my dick in PD what could possibly go wrong"
<BDSimpleton>even the ppl who agree with you are telling you that your tone wasn't great
<BDSimpleton>ewww
<BDSimpleton>i don't even want to think about that trip
<triplezero>"I didn't even read whatever thread but I know exactly what will happen" -- Triple Zero, February 2012
Quote<monad>I refer you to the line about the iceberg and the ship
<Cram>which line?
<BDSimpleton>the one where he's a prophet
<BDSimpleton>telling us all about how dead everything is
<BDSimpleton>like nobody already knew
<BDSimpleton>anyway brb dinner
<monad>my comments are valid whether I phrase them in such a way to please the natives or not I've pointed out the iceberg to the people on the ship. if they want to argue with me about it I really couldn't give a fuck
- BDSimpleton quit (Connection reset by peer)
<monad>that line^
<monad>I did pose it as a question in the OP post but I guess it's easier to be rhetorical about it than anything
Quote<monad>I can see that a lot of well intentioned and intelligent people have put a lot of effort into PD but right now it looks very much like it's not working
<monad>that most phbb forums are also dying is possibly related, it's an inherently difficult way to maintain a community
<triplezero>is this the way you're also talking in that thread of yours?
<triplezero>because I'm really one of the nice guys and I also want to shout, you don't know shit about PD, what it "is" and what it's made of
<Cram>trip, he did the "Look at how much this forum sucks, you can tell because of the stats, and it's probably because of 2 or 3 of you" shtick :P
<Cram>you can imagine how that went over
<monad>I'm not telling you what PD is or what it's made of, I'm talking about communities
<monad>and I think it is because of some of the behaviour of some of them and from seeing how they've treated people in the past I don't really care for their opinions
<Cram>then why did you make a thread about your opinions?
<monad>because I felt like it and because it might in some small way contribute to someone being motivated to see through the bullshit
<monad>it was the least I could do.
<triplezero>monad you sound like every 5th guy that got driven away from PD. it doesn't matter what your exact reasons or opinions are, there's only a few things that can happen, and the reason why this is so is because PD is PD, and if it were anything else, you'd be somewhere else. they're just going through the motions, digesting you.
<triplezero>how many sandwiches did you eat in your life, monad? did any of them ever came out sandwich-shaped?
* Cram laughs
<Cram>!quote add triplezero how many sandwiches did you eat in your life, monad? did any of them ever came out sandwich-shaped?
<F-U-C-K-U-P>Cram: quote added.
<monad>I do understand that I'm not saying anything new, which really kinda supports my point
<monad>You're right, the reasons I think *why* it's dying are pretty subjective, it doesn't matter what they are particularly
<monad>but the fact remains that it's dying
<monad>or at least it appears to be
Quote<triplezero>you're talking like someone who wants to raze the "bad neighbourhood" to make place for something "better", because *literally* of the property values (of the domain name)
<monad>yes, it is a ghetto
<triplezero>but the mainstream is a sewer
<monad>since when are the really nice areas the mainstream ones?
<triplezero>whoosh
<triplezero>not the point
<triplezero>you said you don't want to take part in that community because the "problem" can't be solved from the inside
<monad>hard to raze a neighbourhood if you're standing in it
<triplezero>YES WELL DUH
<triplezero>BECAUSE YOU MIGHT JUST LEARN YOU DONT ACTUALLY WANT TO
<monad>okay
<monad>good thing you don't have to actually destroy it, as it's digital and can just be relocated as easily as redirectly a dns
Quote<triplezero>if it's not the domain, obviously you want to raze the community, so what then
<triplezero>monad btw all the above is roughly what you could have gotten from your thread as well, just with a bit more bile and stomach acid
<monad>again, I think it's a shithole but I wouldn't want to take their community away from them. I'm not going to create a new one because I'm not a discordian
<triplezero>lol
<monad>so if I'd been polite and removed the bile and stomach acid from my OP post, I'd have gotten some in return anyway?
<monad>when, leaving it in, I got it without the bile and stomach acid in here, and made the posters on there look pretty silly, mainly due to their lack of reading comprehension and critical thinking?
<triplezero>are you asking me? cause you mgiht have confused me for PD's alleged hivemind
PAGING DOCTORS DUNNING AND KRUGER TO THE ER.
I didn't know cool people were still in IRC. The few times I dropped by most recently, it was full of monads whining about the forum and posting word salad.
Depends what times you log on. It can be Cram and myself discussing tumblr, or tripzip and BDS discussing English lit and hacking news, or something.
Or yeah, it can be that.
Quote from: Pæs on February 24, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
PAGING DOCTORS DUNNING AND KRUGER TO THE ER.
:hammer:
Heh. Fuck that guy.
"That tone was justified! Everyone there is STUPID!"
I hope he comes back. :lulz:
If anything has remained the same about this place, what drew me to it in the first place, it is that you cannot last too long behind a curtain of your own bullshit. It's easily washed away to expose you for exactly what you are.
In monad's case a big ol' baby.
BTW, the bile is ours. If you had shown any in your OP things might have gone different. But your belly has no bile, only the tears of your own pathetic whining.
Also, BTW, called it. You guys just cannot handle the domain ownership, which, oh, just delights me in ways you cannot understand.
I hope The Mgt. has some sort of trust or living will in place for the domain. It would be a shame if it fell into the wrong hands.
This is exactly what I was talking about with respect to Autumn Tyr-Salvia/St Mae.
To Monad, we're not fully-functional humans that can decide what we like or don't like. We need their help.
:lulz:
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 08:50:44 PM
If anything has remained the same about this place, what drew me to it in the first place, it is that you cannot last too long behind a curtain of your own bullshit. It's easily washed away to expose you for exactly what you are.
In monad's case a big ol' baby.
BTW, the bile is ours. If you had shown any in your OP things might have gone different. But your belly has no bile, only the tears of your own pathetic whining.
Also, BTW, called it. You guys just cannot handle the domain ownership, which, oh, just delights me in ways you cannot understand.
I hope The Mgt. has some sort of trust or living will in place for the domain. It would be a shame if it fell into the wrong hands.
We don't deserve the domain name. Someone else should own it.
Monad, for example.
:lulz:
This smells like AKK mixed with Ben Mack.
I am now taking the "suggestion" part of the 50 post suggestion into account.
What an ass.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 24, 2014, 08:52:20 PM
I am now taking the "suggestion" part of the 50 post suggestion into account.
What an ass.
You're only saying that because you're part of the ghetto, mister. :lulz:
(http://style.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/style/2013/08/do-the-right-thing-raheem-rings-new.jpg)
bds, care to elaborate on "people who agree with him"?
Just out of a sense of malicious curiosity, mind you.
He might've meant me, and my earlier critique.
Since I think I was the only one who had responded to him in chat at that point
Quote from: Cain on February 24, 2014, 08:56:25 PM
He might've meant me, and my earlier critique.
Since I think I was the only one who had responded to him in chat at that point
Ah, okay.
Because I know there's more than a few people who yammer about how ugly and useless we are, conviently ignoring several thousand pages of content/writing.
To whom I can only say :lulz:
Naw, #discord is mostly gifs and talk about LARPing, these days. Hell, this is the first time I can remember PD being discussed there in ages.
So, let's just translate Monad's argument into non-bullshit speak:
"I want the domain name, but ECH already has it."
Quote from: Cain on February 24, 2014, 08:59:15 PM
Naw, #discord is mostly gifs and talk about LARPing, these days. Hell, this is the first time I can remember PD being discussed there in ages.
Well, I was talking about people who have stated their dislike or avoidance. Cram, Trip, a few others.
I am not including the usual HATE ROGER/NIGEL/CAIN/ETC crowd, which are a different phenomenom altogether.
HEE HEE HEE. I done a bad thing on Teh FB.
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 06:49:01 PM
I have said it before, but, you know, webhosting is not all that difficult, compared with say getting a PhD. Not to knock all the hard work, time, money, and effort you put in Faust. I am just saying that if all these whiny, peace-loving Discordians ought to go build their own sandbox to save Discordjia if they feel so keen to keep it safe.
They never do, they just whine and cry.
Also, I think it's pretty funny that monad was trying to prove how mean we all are, and then met up with me trying to genuinely encourage him to stay, and still can't let go of that meme. Kinda funny, anyway.
I think that would be really cool. As far as I am concerned all I really do here is maintain the system and make small changes. If someone had the time or the inclination they could blow us out of the water with a dynamite site and nothing would give me greater pleasure.
I want to see more discordian sites, and I want to see their unique view of it, be it completely different to what's here, dadist or serious. That would be awesome.
Quote from: Faust on February 24, 2014, 09:16:04 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 06:49:01 PM
I have said it before, but, you know, webhosting is not all that difficult, compared with say getting a PhD. Not to knock all the hard work, time, money, and effort you put in Faust. I am just saying that if all these whiny, peace-loving Discordians ought to go build their own sandbox to save Discordjia if they feel so keen to keep it safe.
They never do, they just whine and cry.
Also, I think it's pretty funny that monad was trying to prove how mean we all are, and then met up with me trying to genuinely encourage him to stay, and still can't let go of that meme. Kinda funny, anyway.
I think that would be really cool. As far as I am concerned all I really do here is maintain the system and make small changes. If someone had the time or the inclination they could blow us out of the water with a dynamite site and nothing would give me greater pleasure.
I want to see more discordian sites, and I want to see their unique view of it, be it completely different to what's here, dadist or serious. That would be awesome.
I agree. I would even make an effort to put up the time and energy into it myself if I thought it was worth it. I think they absolutely should have their own sandbox.
I just can't understand why they never do.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 09:14:49 PM
HEE HEE HEE. I done a bad thing on Teh FB.
?
Posted in TDS 2014:
Isn't it just a damn shame that a small handful of super mean people basically run principiadiscordia.com? I mean, it's such a sweet domain name. The face of Eris herself! If only it was owned by someone who understood Discordianism and its potential better. If only.
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 09:18:39 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 24, 2014, 09:16:04 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 06:49:01 PM
I have said it before, but, you know, webhosting is not all that difficult, compared with say getting a PhD. Not to knock all the hard work, time, money, and effort you put in Faust. I am just saying that if all these whiny, peace-loving Discordians ought to go build their own sandbox to save Discordjia if they feel so keen to keep it safe.
They never do, they just whine and cry.
Also, I think it's pretty funny that monad was trying to prove how mean we all are, and then met up with me trying to genuinely encourage him to stay, and still can't let go of that meme. Kinda funny, anyway.
I think that would be really cool. As far as I am concerned all I really do here is maintain the system and make small changes. If someone had the time or the inclination they could blow us out of the water with a dynamite site and nothing would give me greater pleasure.
I want to see more discordian sites, and I want to see their unique view of it, be it completely different to what's here, dadist or serious. That would be awesome.
I agree. I would even make an effort to put up the time and energy into it myself if I thought it was worth it. I think they absolutely should have their own sandbox.
I just can't understand why they never do.
We wrecked it forever by having the domain name. Which we don't deserve.
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 09:14:49 PM
HEE HEE HEE. I done a bad thing on Teh FB.
?
Posted in TDS 2014:
Isn't it just a damn shame that a small handful of super mean people basically run principiadiscordia.com? I mean, it's such a sweet domain name. The face of Eris herself! If only it was owned by someone who understood Discordianism and its potential better. If only.
:lulz:
I actually have thought about uniornicadiscordia.com for some time.
Discordian astrology, dada, lots of pink. Maybe this summer, maybe never.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 09:21:13 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 09:14:49 PM
HEE HEE HEE. I done a bad thing on Teh FB.
?
Posted in TDS 2014:
Isn't it just a damn shame that a small handful of super mean people basically run principiadiscordia.com? I mean, it's such a sweet domain name. The face of Eris herself! If only it was owned by someone who understood Discordianism and its potential better. If only.
:lulz:
I am a bad man.
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 09:22:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 09:21:13 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 09:14:49 PM
HEE HEE HEE. I done a bad thing on Teh FB.
?
Posted in TDS 2014:
Isn't it just a damn shame that a small handful of super mean people basically run principiadiscordia.com? I mean, it's such a sweet domain name. The face of Eris herself! If only it was owned by someone who understood Discordianism and its potential better. If only.
:lulz:
I am a bad man.
Me, too.
I have bailed from both TDS and TDS2014, though, so I'll have to miss the fun.
I have readjusted my position. Not toward the dipshit in the OP, that guy is a toolbag.
I don't think I am going to give TDS too much shit anymore, especially as a whole. Certain individuals, sure. But I really actually don't appreciate the kind of behavior shown by the OP. It is childish and stupid and contrary to what I want out of day-to-day life generally. I don't really have a problem with other kinds of Discordians.
I do have a problem with cowards who swoop in here just to tell us how terrible we are without the minerals to DO anything about it but whine.
And I want to be nothing like that.
I am slowly becoming a more peaceable person every day. What's wrong with me?
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 10:24:55 PM
I have readjusted my position. Not toward the dipshit in the OP, that guy is a toolbag.
I don't think I am going to give TDS too much shit anymore, especially as a whole. Certain individuals, sure. But I really actually don't appreciate the kind of behavior shown by the OP. It is childish and stupid and contrary to what I want out of day-to-day life generally. I don't really have a problem with other kinds of Discordians.
I do have a problem with cowards who swoop in here just to tell us how terrible we are without the minerals to DO anything about it but whine.
And I want to be nothing like that.
I am slowly becoming a more peaceable person every day. What's wrong with me?
TDS just isn't fun. It reminds me of PD in 2004. One lady ruling the roost, with every male on the place white knighting for her. Meh.
As for TDS2014, I don't turn my cheek for anyone.
I've found it quite entertaining this evening.
Heh Alty, It's a good thing that guy came up with the idea for a new site.
Quote from: Faust on February 24, 2014, 10:31:34 PM
I've found it quite entertaining this evening.
Heh Alty, It's a good thing that guy came up with the idea for a new site.
If only we weren't ROONING it by having the pd name first. :cry:
I feel just AWFUL.
Quote from: Faust on February 24, 2014, 10:31:34 PM
I've found it quite entertaining this evening.
Heh Alty, It's a good thing that guy came up with the idea for a new site.
Right? Brilliant.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 24, 2014, 10:31:34 PM
I've found it quite entertaining this evening.
Heh Alty, It's a good thing that guy came up with the idea for a new site.
If only we weren't ROONING it by having the pd name first. :cry:
I feel just AWFUL.
There are many a toolbag out there that seems to feel that way, there must be some kind of way to bait them into a virtual fly-trap, where some combination of imagery sounds and words will make them dissolve into something easily digestible by plant matter. Something.
I want to find them. They bother me. I WANT NAMES.
What? NO!
Everyone BUT them on the facebook discordian groups is capable of talking to another human being.
We dont want to find the ones butthurt about here, we just want to court the rest.
Good point.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 24, 2014, 10:31:34 PM
I've found it quite entertaining this evening.
Heh Alty, It's a good thing that guy came up with the idea for a new site.
If only we weren't ROONING it by having the pd name first. :cry:
I feel just AWFUL.
From what I've seen tonight there are really only one or two malcontents over on Facebook with an axe to grind against here but for the most part they are good humoured.
Monad seems to be fixed on the idea of an anonymous discordian site. I hope he gives it a shot now. I'd be interested in watching it to see how it plays out and I say this without a hint of irony or malice: I hope it does really well, I'd love to see another discordian site out there with a unique concept.
Which one was monad? TELL ME.
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 11:17:38 PM
Which one was monad? TELL ME.
I thought it was obvious, same person who suggested the anonamous discordian board? I'll PM you who I think it is.
That's the closest I've had to a invasion/safari/troll in years. Good fun.
Yes, it was lively.
I'd rather like to know myself. After the last couple of months, I'm a little sensitive about being told that I'm not actually a functional human being.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 11:49:24 PM
I'd rather like to know myself. After the last couple of months, I'm a little sensitive about being told that I'm not actually a functional human being.
I PM'd alty, he doesn't think I'm right.
Just two people who had axes to grind against here at the same time.
I don't think it was who Faust thought it was.
The fellow on FB in question said he hated us, thought this place was a circlejerk about a bajillion times, but then also stated quite clearly that he never posts here.
I felt he was telling the truth because why would he trash talk so openly and then say that?
Ah, what Faust said.
That whole post was to root out anyone who felt that way about this place, but monad in particular. No luck.
Let's see if he has the nerve to come back.
BTW, what a totally fucked up way to respond to Cain, who was being so very reasonable and open to the discussion in IRC. Just stupid.
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 11:54:12 PM
I don't think it was who Faust thought it was.
The fellow on FB in question said he hated us, thought this place was a circlejerk about a bajillion times, but then also stated quite clearly that he never posts here.
I felt he was telling the truth because why would he trash talk so openly and then say that?
Ah, what Faust said.
Well, given who it is, I don't mind him catching some splash. Then I'll just let him deal with Monad.
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 11:56:00 PM
Let's see if he has the nerve to come back.
Nope. 169% wuss.
ECHO echo echo echo echo
DENIAL denial denialecho echo
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 01:42:19 AM
ECHO echo echo echo echo
DENIAL denial denialecho echo
No, you can't have the domain name. :lulz:
What's REALLY funny here is that we are expected to take forum advice from a guy who can't be arsed to run a forum (no, facebook doesn't count).
Also, I'm guessing that you are Semaj from TDS.
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 01:42:19 AM
ECHO echo echo echo echo
DENIAL denial denialecho echo
Someday...someday you'll be able to present a valid argument against or for...anything. Until that day, enjoy keeping your tail firmly between your legs.
Besides, this place is alive enough for you to be butthurt for no reason whatsoever. That's alive enough for me. :lulz:
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 01:54:08 AM
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 01:42:19 AM
ECHO echo echo echo echo
DENIAL denial denialecho echo
Someday...someday you'll be able to present a valid argument against or for...anything. Until that day, enjoy keeping your tail firmly between your legs.
Besides, this place is alive enough for you to be butthurt for no reason whatsoever. That's alive enough for me. :lulz:
He's only trying to save the REAL Discordians™ from BAD PEOPLE LIKE US.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 01:55:09 AM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 01:54:08 AM
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 01:42:19 AM
ECHO echo echo echo echo
DENIAL denial denialecho echo
Someday...someday you'll be able to present a valid argument against or for...anything. Until that day, enjoy keeping your tail firmly between your legs.
Besides, this place is alive enough for you to be butthurt for no reason whatsoever. That's alive enough for me. :lulz:
He's only trying to save the REAL Discordians™ from BAD PEOPLE LIKE US.
But not far enough to build his own sandbox. Just telling it on the mountain.
You're like Disco Jesus, monad.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
He ran away again.
Dammit, Alty, I didn't even get a proper boot in. :argh!:
He's gone mad with power at the ability to whip us into a frenzy with but his presence! Woe, who can stop him!?
What an absolute waste of perfectly good oxygen.
Pssshhh, anyone can do a simple smash and grab.
I didn't even get grabbed.
No staying power, it's sad.
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:17:20 AM
Pssshhh, anyone can do a simple smash and grab.
I didn't even get grabbed.
No staying power, it's sad.
It's like he isn't even
trying.
But WAIT! He's back!
:banana:
Looks like
someone isn't going to end up in the Peanut Gallery.
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 02:17:04 AM
What an absolute waste of perfectly good oxygen.
*sage nod*
Annnnd he's slunk off again. :crankey:
Dammit, Alty! Quit scaring the little tard off!
Oh, and no...This bit of epic whining is DEFINITELY going in the peanut gallery. :lulz:
I haven't seen this kind of whining since Phil Collins retired.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 02:22:32 AM
Dammit, Alty! Quit scaring the little tard off!
I JUST WANNA GET GRABBED. I should get something for being a part of the welcome wagon.
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:28:35 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 02:22:32 AM
Dammit, Alty! Quit scaring the little tard off!
I JUST WANNA GET GRABBED. I should get something for being a part of the welcome wagon.
You live in Alaska. You can get grabbed just by walking into the woods.
He keeps coming in and then leaving. :lulz:
Bitches, please. Do you really have such low standards for success that you take someone going momentarily afk as evidence that you've scared them away with your big scary words? Reason to start crowing about how internet-tough you are?
You're all adults, aren't you? So why resort to this school-yard bullying behaviour? Can't you see it's completely ineffective on the internet?
I absolutely adore the fact that you all find it easier to believe there's someone out to get you and I'm just a sockpuppet, rather than accept that when someone criticises you, maybe you're doing something wrong. When it happens once or twice, sure it might be a troll. When it repeatedly happens and your entire site is a mausoleum of users who've left, decorated with "testimonials" from discontented users, held out like some sort of pre-emptive ironic defence, it starts to look a little bit sad. But sure, blame it on trolls, blame it on the economy, blame it on website life-cycles, blame it on the sunshine, blame it on the splitters, blame it on the domain-name-coveting-illuminati.
peace out, wankers.
:enough:
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 02:33:28 AM
Bitches, please.
Oh, how cute. A misogynist. :lulz:
QuoteDo you really have such low standards for success that you take someone going momentarily afk as evidence that you've scared them away with your big scary words? Reason to start crowing about how internet-tough you are?
You're all adults, aren't you? So why resort to this school-yard bullying behaviour? Can't you see it's completely ineffective on the internet?
All we know is that you post and run. Because you're a bit of a coward, presumably.
QuoteI absolutely adore the fact that you all find it easier to believe there's someone out to get you and I'm just a sockpuppet, rather than accept that when someone criticises you, maybe you're doing something wrong.
*checks off the "you guys are doing it wrong" box*
QuoteWhen it happens once or twice, sure it might be a troll. When it repeatedly happens and your entire site is a mausoleum of users who've left, decorated with "testimonials" from discontented users, held out like some sort of pre-emptive ironic defence, it starts to look a little bit sad. But sure, blame it on trolls, blame it on the economy, blame it on website life-cycles, blame it on the sunshine, blame it on the splitters, blame it on the domain-name-coveting-illuminati.
The only person who's mentioned "pre-emptive defense" was you, in IRC. :lol:
Quotepeace out, wankers.
:enough:
See you tomorrow.
Kind of beautiful that he made his debut (in that it was when he was first actually noticed) in a thread about social ineptitude, then proceeded to tell a community he didn't understand what it was all about and why he knew better.
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 02:49:06 AM
Kind of beautiful that he made his debut (in that it was when he was first actually noticed) in a thread about social ineptitude, then proceeded to tell a community he didn't understand what it was all about and why he knew better.
The real gold was in the IRC snippets. Thought I was gonna piss myself.
"I HAD TO BE A DICK! IT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAFE!"
Basic communication ability lacking...If you boot the door in and scream abuse, your message is "abuse", not what you actually intended to say.
So fuck this guy. He's too damn stupid to communicate.
Surely, he meant to say museum of users. We, who are left, are so very beautiful.
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:54:07 AM
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 02:52:58 AM
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 02:33:28 AMBitches, please. peace out, wankers.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 02:58:50 AMI don't wish to contribute to any more hate.
No wonder he was defending creepers.
Wait. What? :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 02:58:12 AM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:54:07 AM
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 02:52:58 AM
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 02:33:28 AMBitches, please. peace out, wankers.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 02:58:50 AMI don't wish to contribute to any more hate.
No wonder he was defending creepers.
Wait. What? :lulz:
Check out my body shaming thread.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 02:58:12 AM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:54:07 AM
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 02:52:58 AM
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 02:33:28 AMBitches, please. peace out, wankers.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 02:58:50 AMI don't wish to contribute to any more hate.
No wonder he was defending creepers.
Wait. What? :lulz:
He seemed to be suggesting that women who are harassed might have some responsibility to educate their harassers. And then assured us that this was not his position. And then said that the socially awkward men who were being creepy were victims of society and so weren't accountable for their actions.
Then when Alty said "That seems like it abdicates all forms of personal responsibility" he agreed and thought this was a good thing, because the solution to abuse isn't punishment, it's solutions. Solutions solve everything.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,36202.msg1329837.html#msg1329837
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:58:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 02:58:12 AM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:54:07 AM
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 02:52:58 AM
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 02:33:28 AMBitches, please. peace out, wankers.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 02:58:50 AMI don't wish to contribute to any more hate.
No wonder he was defending creepers.
Wait. What? :lulz:
Check out my body shaming thread.
Holy shit. :lol:
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 03:01:57 AM
He seemed to be suggesting that women who are harassed might have some responsibility to educate their harassers. And then assured us that this was not his position. And then said that the socially awkward men who were being creepy were victims of society and so weren't accountable for their actions.
Amazing.
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 03:01:57 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 02:58:12 AM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:54:07 AM
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 02:52:58 AM
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 02:33:28 AMBitches, please. peace out, wankers.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 02:58:50 AMI don't wish to contribute to any more hate.
No wonder he was defending creepers.
Wait. What? :lulz:
He seemed to be suggesting that women who are harassed might have some responsibility to educate their harassers. And then assured us that this was not his position. And then said that the socially awkward men who were being creepy were victims of society and so weren't accountable for their actions.
Then when Alty said "That seems like it abdicates all forms of personal responsibility" he agreed and thought this was a good thing, because the solution to abuse isn't punishment, it's solutions. Solutions solve everything.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,36202.msg1329837.html#msg1329837
I thought he was maybe just an idiot, and was trying to be helpful.
Looks like I was right after all.
You guys just don't have adequate faith in Solutions.
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 03:04:30 AM
You guys just don't have adequate faith in Solutions.
I CAN'T HELP IT. I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT LIBERTARIANS MEAN BY "INNOVATION".
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 01:42:19 AM
ECHO echo echo echo echo
DENIAL denial denialecho echo
I agreed with you?
Doesn't mean I don't think you are an idiot. I just don't hold it against you. some of the best people I've known are idiots.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 11:51:52 AM
Yes, Cain. I believe that conversation ended with
>that was kind of you but you know perfectly well my comments are valid whether I phrase them in such a way to please the natives or not
>I've pointed out the iceberg to the people on the ship. if they want to argue with me about it I really couldn't give a fuck
Coming on here and declaring open season on me is the petty bullying behaviour that (I see as) part of the problem.
Faust, I hope you're right and I'm wrong, for Eris's sake.
You want my suggestions? Change the board software, discourage this atmosphere of cliques and circle-jerking. Kusaba X is open source. Instate rules and mods who actively discourage the memetic cancers that boards acquire over time, all this daily-post, navel-gazing horseshit. Discourage the import of generic internet culture and try to encourage development of new ideas and fresh content. Might work, might not. Just some suggestions, I'm not omniscient.
We would be happy to hand the reins over to you, we'll just need a cashier's check first, spanky. :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 08:54:33 PM
bds, care to elaborate on "people who agree with him"?
Just out of a sense of malicious curiosity, mind you.
I mostly just meant that there were several people on IRC who said things to the effect of "well, you kind of have a point, but your tone was absurd, and to post on PD telling everyone that they're doing it totally wrong is just trolling'. Like, I think maybe there is an interesting discussion to be had somewhere about different kinds of forum software and different discordian communities and such, but obviously just going LOL UR DOIN IT RONG is a dick move.
Quote from: monad on February 25, 2014, 02:33:28 AM
Bitches, please. Do you really have such low standards for success that you take someone going momentarily afk as evidence that you've scared them away with your big scary words? Reason to start crowing about how internet-tough you are?
You're all adults, aren't you? So why resort to this school-yard bullying behaviour? Can't you see it's completely ineffective on the internet?
I absolutely adore the fact that you all find it easier to believe there's someone out to get you and I'm just a sockpuppet, rather than accept that when someone criticises you, maybe you're doing something wrong. When it happens once or twice, sure it might be a troll. When it repeatedly happens and your entire site is a mausoleum of users who've left, decorated with "testimonials" from discontented users, held out like some sort of pre-emptive ironic defence, it starts to look a little bit sad. But sure, blame it on trolls, blame it on the economy, blame it on website life-cycles, blame it on the sunshine, blame it on the splitters, blame it on the domain-name-coveting-illuminati.
peace out, wankers.
:enough:
At risk of pointing out the GLARINGLY OBVIOUS...
Those of us who are HERE, those of us WHOSE SITE THIS IS, well...
we like it here. We like it how it is.
Your opinion has been given all the consideration that it deserves. YOU have been given all the consideration that you deserve. And if you REALLY want that domain name, well, I won't say that Faust and I are reasonable men but we're certainly willing to part a sucker from his money.
Quote from: bds on February 25, 2014, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 08:54:33 PM
bds, care to elaborate on "people who agree with him"?
Just out of a sense of malicious curiosity, mind you.
I mostly just meant that there were several people on IRC who said things to the effect of "well, you kind of have a point, but your tone was absurd, and to post on PD telling everyone that they're doing it totally wrong is just trolling'. Like, I think maybe there is an interesting discussion to be had somewhere about different kinds of forum software and different discordian communities and such, but obviously just going LOL UR DOIN IT RONG is a dick move.
:lulz:
So, we're all worthless dicks, he was just using the wrong approach.
I've clearly missed something.
What are these other communities that he curates? Obviously they're packed with exciting and original content that puts this place to shame.
TAKING ALL BETS
Nazi Forum/Chatroom - 3/1
Mahdjickal forum/Chatroom 5/1
"Free thinking" forum/chatroom 1/3
Other "Dischordian" site 1/8
RWHN in disguise 1/4
Roger in disguise 1/20
Under 15 2/9
Seriously, saying you have "other communities" that are much better than this one and yet not naming any seems a little spineless to say the least. If you're going to claim superiority, at least try and fucking show it.
"Curates"?
It's a real word and everything:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curator
Though probably wrongly used. What I meant here was "Which other forums is he lurking and butthurt on?"
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 04:16:01 PM
It's a real word and everything:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curator
Though probably wrongly used. What I meant here was "Which other forums is he lurking and butthurt on?"
See, I was hoping HE'D used that word. What he said was "attend to".
Curate is far more Ben Mack ("Steward my reputation").
:sad:
Well the implication remains the same. He apparently has places where he's not viewed as a tedious little turd.
I doubt any will get named as it would probably prove the above to be rather wrong.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 02:15:48 PM
Quote from: bds on February 25, 2014, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 08:54:33 PM
bds, care to elaborate on "people who agree with him"?
Just out of a sense of malicious curiosity, mind you.
I mostly just meant that there were several people on IRC who said things to the effect of "well, you kind of have a point, but your tone was absurd, and to post on PD telling everyone that they're doing it totally wrong is just trolling'. Like, I think maybe there is an interesting discussion to be had somewhere about different kinds of forum software and different discordian communities and such, but obviously just going LOL UR DOIN IT RONG is a dick move.
:lulz:
So, we're all worthless dicks, he was just using the wrong approach.
Maybe I'm losing all my happy thoughts, but I'm tired of being the punching bag.
Really, really tired.
"Several people".
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2014, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 24, 2014, 06:52:56 PM
How about any one of these:
newworlddiscordia.com
newandimprovedpd.com
superhappyeris.com
betterthanpd.com.com
peaceanderis.com
cantweallgetalong.com
fuckpd.com.com
mybuttfeelslikeitsfilledwithbrokenglass.com
randomgibberish.com
urdoinitwrong.com
gurusRus.com
Uncle BadTouch.com
iwussedoutandrantotumblr.com
ihatethosepdjerks.com
erisbarandgrill.com
oh wait
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 03:21:11 PM
I've clearly missed something.
What are these other communities that he curates? Obviously they're packed with exciting and original content that puts this place to shame.
TAKING ALL BETS
Nazi Forum/Chatroom - 3/1
Mahdjickal forum/Chatroom 5/1
"Free thinking" forum/chatroom 1/3
Other "Dischordian" site 1/8
RWHN in disguise 1/4
Roger in disguise 1/20
Under 15 2/9
Seriously, saying you have "other communities" that are much better than this one and yet not naming any seems a little spineless to say the least. If you're going to claim superiority, at least try and fucking show it.
My money's on pick up artist forums.
Not kidding.
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Holy shit, I think we have a winner.
I'll give you 1/1, but just you and just this one time because this is going to fucking cost me now.
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Where do you find these assbaskets, Nigel? :lulz:
DEER BEE DEE ESS: Check your PMs, you fucking freak.
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
Sure, but that appears to be happening all over.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:17:16 PM
DEER BEE DEE ESS: Check your PMs, you fucking freak.
I've already apologised, and I'll do it again: I'm sorry for the way I phrased that, I didn't mean to upset you or fuck with you. I don't want to get in a fight. I don't look down on the PD board, I think it's a super cool place, I just don't have a lot of time to contribute anymore, I've got out of touch and been busy with uni and stuff, which is why I tend to hang on IRC cause it's super low effort.
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 08:40:39 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
Sure, but that appears to be happening all over.
WELL IT FUCKING WOULDN'T IF
YOU PEOPLE WOULD BELIEVE IN
SOLUTIONS.
Quote from: bds on February 25, 2014, 08:42:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:17:16 PM
DEER BEE DEE ESS: Check your PMs, you fucking freak.
I've already apologised, and I'll do it again: I'm sorry for the way I phrased that, I didn't mean to upset you or fuck with you. I don't want to get in a fight. I don't look down on the PD board, I think it's a super cool place, I just don't have a lot of time to contribute anymore, I've got out of touch and been busy with uni and stuff, which is why I tend to hang on IRC cause it's super low effort.
Okay. Then maybe you should concern yourself more with IRC and less with how we run things here.
And a bit of personal advice...Find better friends. That asshole left YOU holding the bag, didn't he?
Just saying.
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 03:21:11 PM
TAKING ALL BETS
Nazi Forum/Chatroom - 3/1
Mahdjickal forum/Chatroom 5/1
"Free thinking" forum/chatroom 1/3
Other "Dischordian" site 1/8
RWHN in disguise 1/4
Roger in disguise 1/20
Under 15 2/9
EDIT - Pickup artist 1/1 (Nigel on the money here)
Still taking bets, "other communities" still unknown. Kind of curious because I know it's going to be funny somehow.
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 03:21:11 PM
TAKING ALL BETS
Nazi Forum/Chatroom - 3/1
Mahdjickal forum/Chatroom 5/1
"Free thinking" forum/chatroom 1/3
Other "Dischordian" site 1/8
RWHN in disguise 1/4
Roger in disguise 1/20
Under 15 2/9
EDIT - Pickup artist 1/1 (Nigel on the money here)
Still taking bets, "other communities" still unknown. Kind of curious because I know it's going to be funny somehow.
I have to go with Nigel on this one. A sociopath like that is going to be on PUA boards.
I find it fucking disrespectful, frankly.
At least Brother Nihil, odious little racist that he is, had the decency to broadcast his prior involvements openly so we could all laugh at him for the right reasons from the beginning.
This guy, well, I know there's gold here just waiting to be revealed. If it's not PUA, I'd have to say "Men's Rights".
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 09:26:24 PM
I find it fucking disrespectful, frankly.
At least Brother Nihil, odious little racist that he is, had the decency to broadcast his prior involvements openly so we could all laugh at him for the right reasons from the beginning.
This guy, well, I know there's gold here just waiting to be revealed. If it's not PUA, I'd have to say "Men's Rights".
I fail to see any practical difference, really.
PUA tend to be upset that women won't touch them.
Mens rights tend to have a kid somewhere and are upset because women won't do exactly what they say.
Minor difference, but it seems that the mens rights mob actually had contact with a woman at some point and I'm sure that is VERY important to them.
My bet is that he moderates or is known and noted on a couple of MRA/PUA subreddits.
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 09:32:23 PM
PUA tend to be upset that women won't touch them.
Mens rights tend to have a kid somewhere and are upset because women won't do exactly what they say.
Minor difference, but it seems that the mens rights mob actually had contact with a woman at some point and I'm sure that is VERY important to them.
I don't see any difference at all, really. Both are whiners who view women as cattle.
I'll be moving this thread to Peanut Gallery tomorrow, so we can all have a good laugh and then forget this silly fucker ever existed.
Well, not forget. But you know what I mean.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
That doesn't mean it cant be better, and it doesn't mean we should do nothing.
I said this about a month back. Not the garbage monad was spouting but that we need to do a recruitment drive or foster activities that get people in the door.
Getting them to stay wont be the issue, it's getting them in the door in the first place.
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 09:45:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
That doesn't mean it cant be better, and it doesn't mean we should do nothing.
I said this about a month back. Not the garbage monad was spouting but that we need to do a recruitment drive or foster activities that get people in the door.
Getting them to stay wont be the issue, it's getting them in the door in the first place.
Sure. We used to go grab people from other forums. It would be nice to organize something.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 09:46:35 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 09:45:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
That doesn't mean it cant be better, and it doesn't mean we should do nothing.
I said this about a month back. Not the garbage monad was spouting but that we need to do a recruitment drive or foster activities that get people in the door.
Getting them to stay wont be the issue, it's getting them in the door in the first place.
Sure. We used to go grab people from other forums. It would be nice to organize something.
It doesn't take much, postergasm was a huge draw and its an incredibly simple idea.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
Yeah, look at The Discordian Society Facebook group. It's busy as shit, and about as worth reading.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Where do you find these assbaskets, Nigel? :lulz:
The Discordian Society Facebook group. :lol:
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 09:33:47 PM
My bet is that he moderates or is known and noted on a couple of MRA/PUA subreddits.
:lol: BAM. Bet you're right.
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:59:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Where do you find these assbaskets, Nigel? :lulz:
The Discordian Society Facebook group. :lol:
I'm back on there. Is it Redsnarto Semaj?
We should make an anonymous textboard and make it a subtle nod to Semaj by having the domain name be his name in reverse.
Invite a bunch of shitposters to contribute anonymously to JamesOstrander.com as a subtle nod to that monad character.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 03:21:48 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:59:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Where do you find these assbaskets, Nigel? :lulz:
The Discordian Society Facebook group. :lol:
I'm back on there. Is it Redsnarto Semaj?
Almost certainly yes.
Quote from: Pæs on February 26, 2014, 03:39:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 03:21:48 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:59:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Where do you find these assbaskets, Nigel? :lulz:
The Discordian Society Facebook group. :lol:
I'm back on there. Is it Redsnarto Semaj?
Almost certainly yes.
Hoody hoo!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 03:21:48 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:59:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Where do you find these assbaskets, Nigel? :lulz:
The Discordian Society Facebook group. :lol:
I'm back on there. Is it Redsnarto Semaj?
No. It's some guy whose name I would have to look at my PMs to remember.
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 03:53:21 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 03:21:48 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:59:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Where do you find these assbaskets, Nigel? :lulz:
The Discordian Society Facebook group. :lol:
I'm back on there. Is it Redsnarto Semaj?
No. It's some guy whose name I would have to look at my PMs to remember.
No, I'm sorry. I can't live in a world in which there are two such douchebags preaching in the same tone that text boards would cut down on circlejerks and cliques. Since I live here, that guy must be a Semaj alt.
Quote from: Pæs on February 26, 2014, 04:07:53 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 03:53:21 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 03:21:48 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:59:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Where do you find these assbaskets, Nigel? :lulz:
The Discordian Society Facebook group. :lol:
I'm back on there. Is it Redsnarto Semaj?
No. It's some guy whose name I would have to look at my PMs to remember.
No, I'm sorry. I can't live in a world in which there are two such douchebags preaching in the same tone that text boards would cut down on circlejerks and cliques. Since I live here, that guy must be a Semaj alt.
:lol:
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:58:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
Yeah, look at The Discordian Society Facebook group. It's busy as shit, and about as worth reading.
But it doesn't mean busy as shit means not worth reading. You can have both.
Quote from: Faust on February 26, 2014, 08:43:54 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:58:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
Yeah, look at The Discordian Society Facebook group. It's busy as shit, and about as worth reading.
But it doesn't mean busy as shit means not worth reading. You can have both.
Agreed.
A you said, another postergasm (or something) would be great.
Quote from: :regret: on February 26, 2014, 09:08:20 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 26, 2014, 08:43:54 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:58:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
Yeah, look at The Discordian Society Facebook group. It's busy as shit, and about as worth reading.
But it doesn't mean busy as shit means not worth reading. You can have both.
Agreed.
A you said, another postergasm (or something) would be great.
Something new, though.
Quote from: Faust on February 26, 2014, 08:43:54 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:58:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
Yeah, look at The Discordian Society Facebook group. It's busy as shit, and about as worth reading.
But it doesn't mean busy as shit means not worth reading. You can have both.
Yes, you can have both. I'm just saying that you can't judge the quality of a board based on numbers alone.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 02:09:14 PM
Quote from: :regret: on February 26, 2014, 09:08:20 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 26, 2014, 08:43:54 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:58:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
Yeah, look at The Discordian Society Facebook group. It's busy as shit, and about as worth reading.
But it doesn't mean busy as shit means not worth reading. You can have both.
Agreed.
A you said, another postergasm (or something) would be great.
Something new, though.
That would be best, though i don't mind reusing old posters.
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 06:03:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 26, 2014, 08:43:54 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:58:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
Yeah, look at The Discordian Society Facebook group. It's busy as shit, and about as worth reading.
But it doesn't mean busy as shit means not worth reading. You can have both.
Yes, you can have both. I'm just saying that you can't judge the quality of a board based on numbers alone.
Yes that metric for activity is better quantified by the frequency of people posting that everyone is sitting around f5ing.
It's currently on the down compared to previous months, but reflective of a low period overall.
Quote from: Faust on February 26, 2014, 10:24:53 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 06:03:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 26, 2014, 08:43:54 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 12:58:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 25, 2014, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
There is something to be said for the numbers. He's not wrong in that regard. This place has been quiet as hell for over a year.
I'm going with the ECH response to that: I'd rather have 12 people producing neat shit, than 100 assmonkeys telling hot dog jokes.
Our post count is in the basement, sure. But what IS here is worth fucking READING.
Yeah, look at The Discordian Society Facebook group. It's busy as shit, and about as worth reading.
But it doesn't mean busy as shit means not worth reading. You can have both.
Yes, you can have both. I'm just saying that you can't judge the quality of a board based on numbers alone.
Yes that metric for activity is better quantified by the frequency of people posting that everyone is sitting around f5ing.
It's currently on the down compared to previous months, but reflective of a low period overall.
That's because I have access to other forums at work again. :lulz:
When this place turns into a morgue, I just go elsewhere.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
You guys are killing this forum and through it, Dischordianism itself.
(http://i.imgur.com/2yshjeN.png)
The forum stats show that not only are you failing to attract new users, you're actively driving away old ones. I say "you" because there's clearly a core group of users who have been here from near the start, and I say you're the ones doing it because that makes you the only common denominator. It's not a question of people naturally losing interest in the cause/philosophy/religion/whatever, something like this can potentially survive indefinitely; it has no natural life-cycle. Under RAW and his mates, it grew explosively.
But it's obviously dying now. There's plenty of debate in the archives where you've argued and defended your reasons for doing what you do impeccably, I'm sure you could effectively out-reason or belittle me as you have done so many other nutcases, but it really doesn't matter how well you can justify it to others or even yourselves if it's not working.
Have you not noticed or do you just not give a shit? Answers on a postcard, please.
inb4 pointless reaction gifs and smilies
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Could it be that the core users are just unhappy with life?
Finding contentment while on the path to the end of a goal.
Once at the end of said path, they feel the same as before because they never solved anything.
They simply distracted themselves.
Leading them to destroy everything they worked for?
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
You guys are killing this forum and through it, Dischordianism itself.
(http://i.imgur.com/2yshjeN.png)
The forum stats show that not only are you failing to attract new users, you're actively driving away old ones. I say "you" because there's clearly a core group of users who have been here from near the start, and I say you're the ones doing it because that makes you the only common denominator. It's not a question of people naturally losing interest in the cause/philosophy/religion/whatever, something like this can potentially survive indefinitely; it has no natural life-cycle. Under RAW and his mates, it grew explosively.
But it's obviously dying now. There's plenty of debate in the archives where you've argued and defended your reasons for doing what you do impeccably, I'm sure you could effectively out-reason or belittle me as you have done so many other nutcases, but it really doesn't matter how well you can justify it to others or even yourselves if it's not working.
Have you not noticed or do you just not give a shit? Answers on a postcard, please.
inb4 pointless reaction gifs and smilies
:|
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Could it be that the core users are just unhappy with life?
Finding contentment while on the path to the end of a goal.
Once at the end of said path, they feel the same as before because they never solved anything.
They simply distracted themselves.
Leading them to destroy everything they worked for?
That sounds like a load of hooey
But.....
Every year for the last five has been getting better and better for me, and every year I've posted less and less.
So maybe you have a point.
The trick is to make everyone miserable so that they keep posting.
Quote from: Faust on March 04, 2014, 12:46:37 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
You guys are killing this forum and through it, Dischordianism itself.
(http://i.imgur.com/2yshjeN.png)
The forum stats show that not only are you failing to attract new users, you're actively driving away old ones. I say "you" because there's clearly a core group of users who have been here from near the start, and I say you're the ones doing it because that makes you the only common denominator. It's not a question of people naturally losing interest in the cause/philosophy/religion/whatever, something like this can potentially survive indefinitely; it has no natural life-cycle. Under RAW and his mates, it grew explosively.
But it's obviously dying now. There's plenty of debate in the archives where you've argued and defended your reasons for doing what you do impeccably, I'm sure you could effectively out-reason or belittle me as you have done so many other nutcases, but it really doesn't matter how well you can justify it to others or even yourselves if it's not working.
Have you not noticed or do you just not give a shit? Answers on a postcard, please.
inb4 pointless reaction gifs and smilies
:|
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->
Could it be that the core users are just unhappy with life?
Finding contentment while on the path to the end of a goal.
Once at the end of said path, they feel the same as before because they never solved anything.
They simply distracted themselves.
Leading them to destroy everything they worked for?
That sounds like a load of hooey
But.....
Every year for the last five has been getting better and better for me, and every year I've posted less and less.
So maybe you have a point.
See, and I went back to school and stopped bothering with dating, and am generally happier (if more tired and stressed-out).
So maybe he's onto something. We need more unhappy people.
I feel like alot of these guys' problems with PD can be boiled down to "how can you all be such relatively happy and successful people and still be so angry?"
Uhh, sorry YOUR life isn't meeting your own standards, bunky. And for what it's worth, most of us LIKE being angry.
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on March 04, 2014, 04:42:53 PM
I feel like alot of these guys' problems with PD can be boiled down to "how can you all be such relatively happy and successful people and still be so angry?"
Uhh, sorry YOUR life isn't meeting your own standards, bunky. And for what it's worth, most of us LIKE being angry.
:lol: Yeah, this, pretty much.
Quote from: Nigel on March 04, 2014, 05:16:50 PM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on March 04, 2014, 04:42:53 PM
I feel like alot of these guys' problems with PD can be boiled down to "how can you all be such relatively happy and successful people and still be so angry?"
Uhh, sorry YOUR life isn't meeting your own standards, bunky. And for what it's worth, most of us LIKE being angry.
:lol: Yeah, this, pretty much.
Some of us don't have a choice. I'm relatively happy largely
because I'm angry all the fucking time.
Quote from: Faust on March 04, 2014, 12:47:03 PM
The trick is to make everyone miserable so that they keep posting.
Sun Tzu says that if you loose a battle, you will want to fight another one to try and win.
( Definitely with much better wording and a sentence before that one about what happens if you win a battle. )
I feel like that applies here, because these are not mere arguments, they are motherfucking battles of the mind.
Okay, I am going to lose my shit in a few moments.
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 25, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
The real irony is that the reason he found this board in the first place was because I sent him links to a few of the many creative projects that have stemmed from it, and from the big ole meanies here, over the last few years. :lol:
Pssshhhh. Creative projects, we need NUMBERS dammit!
Post counts! New blood!
"New Blood"
New Blood, Reporting in!
Honestly, I am here because of that book. I've never enjoyed reading utter nonsense so thoroughly.
The ability to or not to enjoy that book is a great profiling system. That is what raised my expectations of this place to unbelievable heights.
Those who do not enjoy it, obviously don't belong here.
Those who do enjoy it, get to try this place out.
If you want fresh blood, find a way to adapt Lord Omar's, "A Primer for Erisian Evangelists" for modern use through chat services and IRL random street approaches.
I swear that approach, applied with a pinch of charisma, would actually work!
On the bright side though, I'm pretty worried that liking that book means I can no longer be in denial of my own insanity....
Bright, because denial isn't reality, and reality is good weather it be a good or bad reality.
In denial of your own insanity, you say?
Jesus fucking wept, they weren't lying when they said a crack epidemic is making a generation fucking demented.
QuoteIRL random street approaches.
Not another fucking PUA. Please.
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 04, 2014, 06:04:02 PM
Jesus fucking wept, they weren't lying when they said a crack epidemic is making a generation fucking demented.
QuoteIRL random street approaches.
Not another fucking PUA. Please.
I don't think this guy is.
I think he is just not getting the point.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:00:45 PM
In denial of your own insanity, you say?
You see:
Suppose I am not crazy, but instead am under the delusion of being crazy.
Wouldn't a delusion of insanity be insanity itself?
Suppose I am crazy and am completely correct. What symptoms do I have?
If none, then I am wrong and therefore crazy.
If I do have symptoms, then the insanity would make me unaware of them.
The symptoms/delusions would feel as real as a sane person's reality feels to them.
In this way I get to feel assured that I am self aware of my state of mind.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 04, 2014, 06:04:02 PM
Jesus fucking wept, they weren't lying when they said a crack epidemic is making a generation fucking demented.
QuoteIRL random street approaches.
Not another fucking PUA. Please.
I don't think this guy is.
I think he is just not getting the point.
Please, explain.
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:00:45 PM
In denial of your own insanity, you say?
You see:
Suppose I am not crazy, but instead am under the delusion of being crazy.
Wouldn't a delusion of insanity be insanity itself?
Suppose I am crazy and am completely correct. What symptoms do I have?
If none, then I am wrong and therefore crazy.
If I do have symptoms, then the insanity would make me unaware of them.
The symptoms/delusions would feel as real as a sane person's reality feels to them.
In this way I get to feel assured that I am self aware of my state of mind.
Suppose you fuck off and die, asshole.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:10:57 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:00:45 PM
In denial of your own insanity, you say?
You see:
Suppose I am not crazy, but instead am under the delusion of being crazy.
Wouldn't a delusion of insanity be insanity itself?
Suppose I am crazy and am completely correct. What symptoms do I have?
If none, then I am wrong and therefore crazy.
If I do have symptoms, then the insanity would make me unaware of them.
The symptoms/delusions would feel as real as a sane person's reality feels to them.
In this way I get to feel assured that I am self aware of my state of mind.
Suppose you fuck off and die, asshole.
You don't take jokes very well do you?
Truly, we're all in the process of fucking off and dieing.
We have simply crossed paths on the way to hell.
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:08:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 04, 2014, 06:04:02 PM
Jesus fucking wept, they weren't lying when they said a crack epidemic is making a generation fucking demented.
QuoteIRL random street approaches.
Not another fucking PUA. Please.
I don't think this guy is.
I think he is just not getting the point.
Please, explain.
Nope. Your other post has told me every fucking thing I need to know about you.
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:00:45 PM
In denial of your own insanity, you say?
You see:
Suppose I am not crazy, but instead am under the delusion of being crazy.
Wouldn't a delusion of insanity be insanity itself?
Suppose I am crazy and am completely correct. What symptoms do I have?
If none, then I am wrong and therefore crazy.
If I do have symptoms, then the insanity would make me unaware of them.
The symptoms/delusions would feel as real as a sane person's reality feels to them.
In this way I get to feel assured that I am self aware of my state of mind.
:roll:
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:11:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:10:57 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:00:45 PM
In denial of your own insanity, you say?
You see:
Suppose I am not crazy, but instead am under the delusion of being crazy.
Wouldn't a delusion of insanity be insanity itself?
Suppose I am crazy and am completely correct. What symptoms do I have?
If none, then I am wrong and therefore crazy.
If I do have symptoms, then the insanity would make me unaware of them.
The symptoms/delusions would feel as real as a sane person's reality feels to them.
In this way I get to feel assured that I am self aware of my state of mind.
Suppose you fuck off and die, asshole.
You don't take jokes very well do you?
Well, no. Not on certain subjects.
You may now begin sorting the peanuts out of my shit. Thanks.
Quote from: Nigel on March 04, 2014, 06:12:41 PM
:roll:
I went from being solicitous towards this one to hating his stinking guts in just one post.
This may be a new record.
Oops.
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:15:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:13:55 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 04, 2014, 06:12:41 PM
:roll:
I went from being solicitous towards this one to hating his stinking guts in just one post.
This may be a new record.
so·lic·i·tous
səˈlisitəs/
adjective
1.
characterized by or showing interest or concern.
Thank you.
Also, thank you! Its not not very often the fruits of my labors pay off so expediently!
Goodbye, fucking retard. Go find some other person to pointlessly offend.
"Playing at being mentally ill" is not an approach that goes over very well here, FYI.
Quote from: Nigel on March 04, 2014, 06:21:35 PM
"Playing at being mentally ill" is not an approach that goes over very well here, FYI.
Yes, that.
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:19:32 PM
Oh :eek:, You're actually offended?
What gave it away, Sparky? Do you perhaps spend time talking about the whimsical nature of being wheelchair bound as well? Or perhaps how delightfully giddy chemotherapy must be?
Here's the deal: After a short but intense bout with a brain virus several years ago, I have these little moments once or twice a year. I get headachey, and my world turns into a Ben Templesmith art project. When these episodes end, I find that there are one or two friends and/or family members that will never really ever speak to me again, because most people won't tolerate crazy in their personal lives, and with good reason. And I'm not even a particularly BAD case. A long-time friend of mine has basically ceased to exist due to BPD, and I miss her greatly.
So when some giddy asshole walks in spouting about how "insane" he is, singing paeans to the glories of personality erosion, JUST WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK SORT OF REACTION DO YOU THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE?
You should maybe find some polio victims and jabber about the glories of an iron lung, maybe.
Quote from: Nigel on March 04, 2014, 06:21:35 PM
"Playing at being mentally ill" is not an approach that goes over very well here, FYI.
I'm actually sorry. I didn't think about that.
I swear though, I do have actual doubts about myself, for reason I'm not yet comfortable explaining.
Also, I'm sure I have the genes.
My Only uncle (RIP) was in an institution since before I was born.
My only brother got a little better recently after a ton of church, but seems to not be capable of sympathy.
My mom is a religious fanatic, and is normal for the most part.
And my dad (Rip) had very serious anger issues, and a lot of people I met that knew him, referred to him as crazy Steve.(He was x-special forced, Explosive ordinance disposal in Vietnam)
I am 23, so I could still change forever for all I know.
It really has been a great fear of mine ever since I read about the relation between Schizophrenia and genetics as a kid.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:19:32 PM
Oh :eek:, You're actually offended?
What gave it away, Sparky? Do you perhaps spend time talking about the whimsical nature of being wheelchair bound as well? Or perhaps how delightfully giddy chemotherapy must be?
Here's the deal: After a short but intense bout with a brain virus several years ago, I have these little moments once or twice a year. I get headachey, and my world turns into a Ben Templesmith art project. When these episodes end, I find that there are one or two friends and/or family members that will never really ever speak to me again, because most people won't tolerate crazy in their personal lives, and with good reason. And I'm not even a particularly BAD case. A long-time friend of mine has basically ceased to exist due to BPD, and I miss her greatly.
So when some giddy asshole walks in spouting about how "insane" he is, singing paeans to the glories of personality erosion, JUST WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK SORT OF REACTION DO YOU THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE?
You should maybe find some polio victims and jabber about the glories of an iron lung, maybe.
I promise to be more sensitive on such issues.
I feel really bad.
Quote from: Nigel on March 04, 2014, 06:21:35 PM
"Playing at being mentally ill" is not an approach that goes over very well here, FYI.
Nigel, i promise that is a genuine story.
If you can help me think of a way of proving
it without revealing my identity or too much info, I will fully cooperate.
(The one about my family, not my stupid chatter)
Look around, stop posting about yourself for a while, and give it another shot.
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 04, 2014, 06:21:35 PM
"Playing at being mentally ill" is not an approach that goes over very well here, FYI.
I'm actually sorry. I didn't think about that.
I swear though, I do have actual doubts about myself, for reason I'm not yet comfortable explaining.
Also, I'm sure I have the genes.
My Only uncle (RIP) was in an institution since before I was born.
My only brother got a little better recently after a ton of church, but seems to not be capable of sympathy.
My mom is a religious fanatic, and is normal for the most part.
And my dad (Rip) had very serious anger issues, and a lot of people I met that knew him, referred to him as crazy Steve.(He was x-special forced, Explosive ordinance disposal in Vietnam)
I am 23, so I could still change forever for all I know.
It really has been a great fear of mine ever since I read about the relation between Schizophrenia and genetics as a kid.
At 23 you are most likely (mostly) out of the woods for full-blown schizophrenia, but you might want to be assessed for schizoaffective personality disorder or other psychological predispositions. There is a genetic component, and it seems to link all the major personality disorders in some way, but it isn't well understood.
Quote from: Faust on March 04, 2014, 06:46:06 PM
Look around, stop posting about yourself for a while, and give it another shot.
Will do.
For a little while, if I post, it wont be for my own amusement.
I have been reading around and respect you guys quite a bit.
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 04, 2014, 06:46:06 PM
Look around, stop posting about yourself for a while, and give it another shot.
Will do.
For a little while, if I post, it wont be for my own amusement.
I have been reading around and respect you guys quite a bit.
Awesome, I wish you well. Nice to have you on board.
I respect your follow up posts, OR. Good on ya.
Quote from: Nigel on March 04, 2014, 06:47:43 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 04, 2014, 06:21:35 PM
"Playing at being mentally ill" is not an approach that goes over very well here, FYI.
I'm actually sorry. I didn't think about that.
I swear though, I do have actual doubts about myself, for reason I'm not yet comfortable explaining.
Also, I'm sure I have the genes.
My Only uncle (RIP) was in an institution since before I was born.
My only brother got a little better recently after a ton of church, but seems to not be capable of sympathy.
My mom is a religious fanatic, and is normal for the most part.
And my dad (Rip) had very serious anger issues, and a lot of people I met that knew him, referred to him as crazy Steve.(He was x-special forced, Explosive ordinance disposal in Vietnam)
I am 23, so I could still change forever for all I know.
It really has been a great fear of mine ever since I read about the relation between Schizophrenia and genetics as a kid.
At 23 you are most likely (mostly) out of the woods for full-blown schizophrenia, but you might want to be assessed for schizoaffective personality disorder or other psychological predispositions. There is a genetic component, and it seems to link all the major personality disorders in some way, but it isn't well understood.
I've never understood what being diagnosed would accomplish.
I'm afraid its just a disability label that will stick on my record forever.
It seems like it would be a disadvantage somehow. I don't want meds or anything like that.
(Would explain further, but I've already waisted enough of yalls time talking about myself for one sitting.
I'll lurk and speak when spoken to for the rest of the day)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:12:56 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:11:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:10:57 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:00:45 PM
In denial of your own insanity, you say?
You see:
Suppose I am not crazy, but instead am under the delusion of being crazy.
Wouldn't a delusion of insanity be insanity itself?
Suppose I am crazy and am completely correct. What symptoms do I have?
If none, then I am wrong and therefore crazy.
If I do have symptoms, then the insanity would make me unaware of them.
The symptoms/delusions would feel as real as a sane person's reality feels to them.
In this way I get to feel assured that I am self aware of my state of mind.
Suppose you fuck off and die, asshole.
You don't take jokes very well do you?
Well, no. Not on certain subjects.
You may now begin sorting the peanuts out of my shit. Thanks.
Did you swallow them whole?
(Plus, it may bio-degrade too much in the mail)
(I meant in a friendly kind of way, not a snide quip kind of way)
You don't have to get a formal diagnosis. It's just a good idea to talk to a professional to get a feel for whether you might have any issues you should keep an eye on. If you're seriously concerned about it, that is. I've talked to a lot of young people who pull the "I'm probably kinda crazy!" line but are really more worried about being told they're perfectly normal than worried about being told they're not, because it takes away their special snowflake card.
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:34:30 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2014, 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 04, 2014, 06:19:32 PM
Oh :eek:, You're actually offended?
What gave it away, Sparky? Do you perhaps spend time talking about the whimsical nature of being wheelchair bound as well? Or perhaps how delightfully giddy chemotherapy must be?
Here's the deal: After a short but intense bout with a brain virus several years ago, I have these little moments once or twice a year. I get headachey, and my world turns into a Ben Templesmith art project. When these episodes end, I find that there are one or two friends and/or family members that will never really ever speak to me again, because most people won't tolerate crazy in their personal lives, and with good reason. And I'm not even a particularly BAD case. A long-time friend of mine has basically ceased to exist due to BPD, and I miss her greatly.
So when some giddy asshole walks in spouting about how "insane" he is, singing paeans to the glories of personality erosion, JUST WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK SORT OF REACTION DO YOU THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE?
You should maybe find some polio victims and jabber about the glories of an iron lung, maybe.
I promise to be more sensitive on such issues.
I feel really bad.
Okay. Consider it forgotten.
I was waiting for this guy to step in it but am pleasantly surprised that his response to doing so was to look at his foot and say "wow, I'm covered in shit. I should sort this out before continuing."
Quote from: Pæs on March 04, 2014, 08:35:12 PM
I was waiting for this guy to step in it but am pleasantly surprised that his response to doing so was to look at his foot and say "wow, I'm covered in shit. I should sort this out before continuing."
My god. HE WAS RIGHT!
Quote from: Pæs on March 04, 2014, 08:35:12 PM
I was waiting for this guy to step in it but am pleasantly surprised that his response to doing so was to look at his foot and say "wow, I'm covered in shit. I should sort this out before continuing."
This one bears watching. If he figures out doorknobs, you know what to do.
Hi, new guy. Thanks for acting like a biped!
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on March 05, 2014, 04:28:49 PM
Hi, new guy. Thanks for acting like a biped!
Unfortunately, this information has been proven to be erroneous.
Quote from: monad on February 24, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
You guys are killing this forum and through it, Dischordianism itself.
(http://i.imgur.com/2yshjeN.png)
The forum stats show that not only are you failing to attract new users, you're actively driving away old ones. I say "you" because there's clearly a core group of users who have been here from near the start, and I say you're the ones doing it because that makes you the only common denominator. It's not a question of people naturally losing interest in the cause/philosophy/religion/whatever, something like this can potentially survive indefinitely; it has no natural life-cycle. Under RAW and his mates, it grew explosively.
But it's obviously dying now. There's plenty of debate in the archives where you've argued and defended your reasons for doing what you do impeccably, I'm sure you could effectively out-reason or belittle me as you have done so many other nutcases, but it really doesn't matter how well you can justify it to others or even yourselves if it's not working.
Have you not noticed or do you just not give a shit? Answers on a postcard, please.
inb4 pointless reaction gifs and smilies
Meh, chiming in a bit late, but I'd like to take a stab at your argument anyway.
Bluntly, your premise that the community's antics are en force driving away people is non sequitur to the supporting evidence of forum stats over time. Is the community asinine to the extreme? Probably...however, regardless as to whether this is true or not, it does not follow that it is the causitive agency of the forum's user state decline between 2007 and 2014.
Rather, I believe that the cause of forum decline is potentially caused by several convergent factors that developed...conveniently around and after 2007.
Let us consider that between 2007 and 2014
>there was a major political shift in the US
Not to say that all discordians are like this, but on the whole, discordianism tends to appeal, on the first contact with the philosophy, to people who could be described as both anti-state
and socially "liberal" (for whatever that term implies).
Well, in 2007, the state was socially conservative...in 2014, the state is now socially liberal (relative to 2007 anyway). The people who liked discordianism as much for its anti-state rhetoric, and it's rebellious, surface-level contrarianism, have probably moved onto other ideological movements on the basis that, as something that is socially liberal, discordianism is in line with the state.
(cf. the opinions of brother nihil -- hates the state AND discordians because discordians like blacks and gays just like that pigdog obama)
Basically, surface-level discordianism appears to the newfag as being a contrarian philosophy and attracts contrarians...who are now entrenched against discordian ideals because they are now in vogue.
>you had a vast diversification of service providers catering to similar socio-political groups as that would be co-morbid with discordianism
basically, there's more competition for users now. instead of PD, users can find outlet on various chans, reddit, tumblr, and a millieu of sites that either didn't exist in 2007, or weren't a popular and well known phenomena then.
>the rise and fall of anonymous and the popularisation of imageboards took off between 2007 and 2014
now I can go be a contrarian asshole
and get free pornography while feeling like I'm an ueber-leet hacker on steroids who's known to the media as a minor actor for socio-political change....and I don't even have to provide an email address!
face it: free porn? feelings of self worth? My god, m00t has a hell of a marketing plan compared to PD.
>people have aged and changed their socio-political outlook since 2007
I don't know about you, but I was an edgy 16-17 year old when I joined PD. The stupid nonsense in the PD made sense to my marajuana-addled child mind at the time. At 22 now, with an economic breakdown, and an interstate move out of teh parent's house, and a whole hell of a lot of personal responsibility later, my views have naturally drifted out of sync with discordian ideals...and I'm sure a lot of people who signed on when they were "dumb kids" have had similar shifts in ideology in the past 5-7 years.
In short, people do naturally lose interest in ideologies as a result of personal experience.
So, yeah...in conclusion, there are a million and one individual factors that one could claim is responsible for people leaving the community. You would have to devise some way to test the hypothesis that any single one of them is true, though, before making the claim that any one of them is
unequivocally the sole cause of community attrition.
Monad is a butthurt facebook discordian. It's like arguing with a brain damaged hamster.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 22, 2014, 01:45:50 AM
Monad is a butthurt facebook discordian. It's like arguing with a brain damaged hamster.
then that makes him stupid enough for me to defeat in argument...
I figured out what's really going on.
This forum is actually run by the NSA (which is secretly controlled by shape shifting alien lizards) and has been used to identify "troublemakers" (i.e. terrorists).
The drop in active membership is due to "troublemakers" now being in indefinite detention.
This also explains the shift in political climate.
The "core" members of this forum are actually NSA operatives - that is why they are not currently detained.
PD = Protecting Democracy
TRUST NOBODY
Your theory is sound but falls apart on one minor detail.
I'm not receiving any kickbacks. If I was selling you all down the river I would expect to be paid for it.
Why would they pay you when you manage the site for free?
Quote from: rong on April 22, 2014, 12:31:42 PM
Why would they pay you when you manage the site for free?
Your Right, I should put up a pay wall for all known government IP's
Quote from: Faust on April 22, 2014, 01:11:06 PM
Quote from: rong on April 22, 2014, 12:31:42 PM
Why would they pay you when you manage the site for free?
Your Right, I should put up a pay wall for all known government IP's
An interesting experiment. If they circumvent this, technically we have them on IP theft :evil:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 22, 2014, 02:03:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 22, 2014, 01:11:06 PM
Quote from: rong on April 22, 2014, 12:31:42 PM
Why would they pay you when you manage the site for free?
Your Right, I should put up a pay wall for all known government IP's
An interesting experiment. If they circumvent this, technically we have them on IP theft :evil:
Silly Scotsman. Rules are for proles.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 22, 2014, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 22, 2014, 02:03:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 22, 2014, 01:11:06 PM
Quote from: rong on April 22, 2014, 12:31:42 PM
Why would they pay you when you manage the site for free?
Your Right, I should put up a pay wall for all known government IP's
An interesting experiment. If they circumvent this, technically we have them on IP theft :evil:
Silly Scotsman. Rules are for prolesany mug dumb enough to obey them.
ftfy :lulz:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 22, 2014, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 22, 2014, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 22, 2014, 02:03:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 22, 2014, 01:11:06 PM
Quote from: rong on April 22, 2014, 12:31:42 PM
Why would they pay you when you manage the site for free?
Your Right, I should put up a pay wall for all known government IP's
An interesting experiment. If they circumvent this, technically we have them on IP theft :evil:
Silly Scotsman. Rules are for prolesany mug dumb enough to obey them.
ftfy :lulz:
Which is what percentage of the population?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 22, 2014, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 22, 2014, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 22, 2014, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 22, 2014, 02:03:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 22, 2014, 01:11:06 PM
Quote from: rong on April 22, 2014, 12:31:42 PM
Why would they pay you when you manage the site for free?
Your Right, I should put up a pay wall for all known government IP's
An interesting experiment. If they circumvent this, technically we have them on IP theft :evil:
Silly Scotsman. Rules are for prolesany mug dumb enough to obey them.
ftfy :lulz:
Which is what percentage of the population?
Also, you think you have the same immunity as, for example, the CEO of Goldman-Sachs?
There are two ways to avoid prosecution. Buy the courts or don't get caught. He has the edge on the former but I'm guessing I'm way ahead on the latter.
It's probably worth a new thread to discuss the cardinal rule.
I would suspect that with the armies of bodyguards minders personal security these people have access to they're in a substantially better position to not be caught.
For example, it's a lot easier to flush your stash of crack if the police have to get past half a dozen heavies being obstructive and making lots of noise before getting to you. Don't take this to mean that I'm implying people at Goldman-sachs are on crack. I'm directly stating this.
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 22, 2014, 03:23:50 PM
It's probably worth a new thread to discuss the cardinal rule.
I would suspect that with the armies of bodyguards minders personal security these people have access to they're in a substantially better position to not be caught.
For example, it's a lot easier to flush your stash of crack if the police have to get past half a dozen heavies being obstructive and making lots of noise before getting to you. Don't take this to mean that I'm implying people at Goldman-sachs are on crack. I'm directly stating this.
:lulz:
I love this thread so much!
Ok I skipped all the pages between this one and the OP but, I was looking into my own personal PD.com stats and they tell a rather different story:
May 6, 2014: Threads started: who knows. Posts made: who cares. Something interesting to read? Yes.
February 14, 2014: Threads: who knows. Posts made: Not gonna look that shit up. Something interesting to read? Yes.
November 3, 2013: Threads: Fuck off. Posts made: FIVE TONS OF FLAX. Something interesting to read? Yes.
etc etc.
Looking around the internet (not just pd.com) seems to tell the story of a Discordia that is bigger and more known than ever. Even the Discordian Wikipedia article, while far from perfect, is a hell of a lot better than last time I checked.
But this particular website, well, it does seem to have much less trolling, spam, and noobs. But as far as interesting content, I still find more of that than I could ever find the time to consume. Much of it submitted by those "old timers" the OP is attempting to shame or whatever.
So I guess in the end my point is... who fucking cares, really?
Oh damn I should watch the post date more carefully.
My bad, it was near the top of the forum section it was in I swear!
I would agree that Discordianism seems to be thriving, and more people are aware of it than ever have been in the past.
The forum format is currently far less popular than it used to be, but who knows where it'll go?