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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Curbside Pickup Only
« on: February 23, 2021, 03:51:28 pm »
Howdy EoC

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: ITT: Confess your WOO!
« on: February 02, 2021, 09:57:15 pm »
He’s just Ayn Rand with even less of a sense of humor.

Apple Talk / Re: The Day Before The Day (Hey, Louie)
« on: January 21, 2021, 02:06:50 pm »
The Anuguration is in, like, 30 minutes -- so I know I'm too late to predict anything

But I don't think the boogs are gonna be a threat today. I think the gross majority of the Stop the Steal crowd are aging boomers and deluded dupes who will hold a gun symbolically but aren't gonna take any initiative. Hell, look at the capitol riot - the majority got inside and then didn't know what the fuck to do. There was no plan.

Weirdly, the QAnon conspiracy almost seems to suppress action. QQ cultists are expecting that the real government is gonna arrest the "deep state". They don't have to do anything because the good guys are actually in power already.

looking back on the last few weeks of political drama -- it reminds me of the Sovereign Citizens movement, who think that these symbolic and ceremonial actions (like gold tassles on a flag, or stating your sovereignty) are where the power resides. As if Pence had any authority to read a name that's not written on the card he was handed. If it could happen to Steve Harvey, it could happen to America, right?

In retrospect it does seem like Q might have been a plan to keep dupes docile. “Trust the plan” is a very passive action to encourage over and over.

Apple Talk / Re: Identity
« on: January 20, 2021, 03:54:41 pm »
This thread is now about the American Southwest.

Apple Talk / Re: The Day Before The Day (Hey, Louie)
« on: January 19, 2021, 09:28:40 pm »
Seems hard to imagine.

Apple Talk / Re: The Day Before The Day (Hey, Louie)
« on: January 19, 2021, 07:50:00 pm »

Apple Talk / Re: The Day Before The Day (Hey, Louie)
« on: January 19, 2021, 07:11:28 pm »
It got so bad we have MAGA freaks north of the border now. Can I mail them back to you, please?

this wins the internet

Or Kill Me / Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« on: January 15, 2021, 12:12:34 am »
Yeah I came back and searched his name on here after watching the same thing. Looks like we were one of the sites he tried to make it look like the video existed before it actually did. Creep.

Apple Talk / Re: Identity
« on: January 13, 2021, 01:27:01 pm »
As a child, I believed that Canadians had no culture; presumably, I saw "culture" as the ways in which people from different countries acted differently, and since we all acted "normally", we therefore had no culture.

Gender identity seems...complicated.  Generalization based on abstraction is the basis of how humans think and communicate, so we like to put things in neat categories.  Naturally we want to put ourselves, and even other people into neat categories, even when this is nonsensical, or harmful.

I try to think in terms of continua, rather than binary classifications.  Cisexual/transexual isn't a thing; it's a range of things.

Please don't get triggered by my particular choice of nouns below; I don't think they match the standard lexicon, but they're what I've got to work with.  This general model has been lurking in my head for a while; if it's entirely wrong, and I am to be excoriated, then this forum is as good a place for it as any.
1. Sex: < Male (0) ... Intersex(5) ... Female (10) >
This is the "physiological / biological" axis; essentially, are your chromosomes XX or XY, and how your plumbing is configured.  It's what you're born with.  It can be tweaked to an extent with hormones, and surgery can have an effect, but without the technology to completely rewrite a person's DNA, you're kinda stuck with this.

Arnold Schwarzenegger might score around 0.  I only have to shave 2 times a week, so I might be about a 2.  Consider that Schwarzenegger's use of steroids may have contributed to his score.

2. Gender: < Masculine (0) ... Neutral (5) ... Feminine (10) >
This is the "psychological / cultural" axis;  i.e., a person's gender identity within society.  People who are on opposite ends of the sex and gender axes often identify as trans.  A tomboy might be classified as "female / masculine".  Keep in mind this is a continuum, and knowing someone identifies as cis-female doesn't tell you whether they're a princess who would like to go pony riding, but is terrified she might break a nail (10), or a butch field entomologist who drinks whisky while watching sportsball (2).

I was mistaken for a girl periodically as a child; if you saw a picture, you'd understand why.  It still happens to me occasionally.  I wear my hair in a braid, and (during the winter) wear a long coat, both which are feminine markers around these parts.  Being only 5'7" doesn't help.  The mistake typically happens when a store clerk approaches me from behind.  It's partly annoying, partly amusing.

3.  Orientation: < Straight(0) ... Bi (5) ... Gay (10) >
This should be self explanatory.  One of my pet theories is that there are more people close to the middle of this axis than identify as such; "closeted bisexuals".
--- wait, I forgot about asexuality.  Let's add another axis to cover that.

And isn't axis 3 an oversimplification of orientation?  What if someone is sex-straight, but gender-bi?  What if I'd rather date the butch field entomologist?

Isn't making masculine / feminine a single axis terribly reductive? There are dozens of factors involved in gender within society, and a simple label doesn't begin to cover it.  How do we take into account gender roles that are reversed across different cultures?

Is that a skirt, or is it a kilt?

Wouldn't it be great if we could just let people be who they want, and dispense with labels altogether?  I'll have a side-order of World Peace, while you're at it.

Gender identity seems...complicated.

Yes, growing up in an a very average town in Canada, watching primarily American television (except in rare circumstances) and no noticeable ethnic traditions of my own family, I became obsessed with the USA because it seemed like “real life” - which I realize is counterintuitive.

Also, I also personally identify is No No Always, but rarely bring it up because decades ago I defaulted to an almost aggressively male “look” and am too lazy to change at this point. Me inside is very different from what I generally present outwards.

Great topic.

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Reality Safari: Gurdjieff
« on: January 12, 2021, 11:41:27 pm »
Is the book club still meeting on Wednesdays? I’m usually busy but would love to check it out if i’m ever not.

« on: January 12, 2021, 11:29:13 pm »
We’ve been living under what amounts to Pentabarf-Law up here for the better part of 5 years now. I hardly notice it anymore. But, thanks a lot Trudeau!


Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?

It doesn't seem simple to me.

Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws.  The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.

If the flaws are actually depicted in some manner (not sure how that would work in every case), I can see there being benefit. But if it’s just a plaque under a regular statue, I would argue it’s still glorifying the subject of the statue.

I haven’t taken a poll around the board, but I will go on record as stating that I don’t believe there is a decent argument against the statue destruction.

Apple Talk / Re: Cameo Dot com
« on: June 24, 2020, 07:11:45 pm »


Apple Talk / Re: Cameo Dot com
« on: June 24, 2020, 01:18:43 pm »
Oh my fucking god

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