Having seen your avatar, I am even more amused by the demise of TCC, and I am ever-more eager to see the big 404 error that will come eventually, when what's her name gets tired of pimping out her husband's festering corpse.
I mean - for real - that's funny as hell, and I applaud your sense of humor and utter lack of shame, sense of irony, or even the merest shred of integrity.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 03:01:06 AM
Having seen your avatar, I am even more amused by the demise of TCC, and I am ever-more eager to see the big 404 error that will come eventually, when what's her name gets tired of pimping out her husband's festering corpse.
I mean - for real - that's funny as hell, and I applaud your sense of humor and utter lack of shame, sense of irony, or even the merest shred of integrity.
Yeah, it's pretty funny.
Quote from: Nigel on May 14, 2011, 04:03:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 03:01:06 AM
I mean - for real - that's funny as hell, and I applaud your sense of humor and utter lack of shame, sense of irony, or even the merest shred of integrity.
Yeah, it's pretty funny.
*bows* I might take issue with the sense of integrity shot, but what the hell, you can think whatever the heck you want.
Personally I thought the veggies and other such images were amusing. I'm going to follow advice and not get into interboard stuff on a mod level, but I honestly like this avatar. There is a thread about pornography over at TCC if anyone cares about my personal views on that whole fiasco. Seems I'm a pornographer by trade. *shrugs*
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 04:34:17 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 14, 2011, 04:03:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 03:01:06 AM
I mean - for real - that's funny as hell, and I applaud your sense of humor and utter lack of shame, sense of irony, or even the merest shred of integrity.
Yeah, it's pretty funny.
*bows* I might take issue with the sense of integrity shot, but what the hell, you can think whatever the heck you want.
Personally I thought the veggies and other such images were amusing. I'm going to follow advice and not get into interboard stuff on a mod level, but I honestly like this avatar. There is a thread about pornography over at TCC if anyone cares about my personal views on that whole fiasco. Seems I'm a pornographer by trade. *shrugs*
Sorry, can't see that thread. We all got banned by your friends...Mostly for avatars like yours.
So, yeah, it's either an integrity thing, or you're deliberately rubbing everyone's nose in the banning thing.
You're no fucking better than EBS or Firesong, and I feel like a sucker for having given you half a chance.
The avatar was actually suggested to me by a friend.
For what it's worth I personally think the whole concept of banning nude artwork, much the less vegetables, is ridiculous. I have a degree in Fine Art. I spent days of my life drawing and painting nude figures. By certain standards it seems that classifies me as a pornographer. That not only makes me laugh it makes me ANGRY. I found pictures by Georgia O'Keiffe simply to make a point which wasn't really heard. The fact that I saw edited versions of David and DaVinci's Vitruvian Man literally made smoke pour out my ears. It was not pretty and I did quite a bit of ranting about it in several places.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:47:38 AM
The avatar was actually suggested to me by a friend.
For what it's worth I personally think the whole concept of banning nude artwork, much the less vegetables, is ridiculous. I have a degree in Fine Art. I spent days of my life drawing and painting nude figures. By certain standards it seems that classifies me as a pornographer. That not only makes me laugh it makes me ANGRY. I found pictures by Georgia O'Keiffe simply to make a point which wasn't really heard. The fact that I saw edited versions of David and DaVinci's Vitruvian Man literally made smoke pour out my ears. It was not pretty and I did quite a bit of ranting about it in several places.
And yet not much of anything positive was done. :|
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:47:38 AM
The avatar was actually suggested to me by a friend.
For what it's worth I personally think the whole concept of banning nude artwork, much the less vegetables, is ridiculous. I have a degree in Fine Art. I spent days of my life drawing and painting nude figures. By certain standards it seems that classifies me as a pornographer. That not only makes me laugh it makes me ANGRY. I found pictures by Georgia O'Keiffe simply to make a point which wasn't really heard. The fact that I saw edited versions of David and DaVinci's Vitruvian Man literally made smoke pour out my ears. It was not pretty and I did quite a bit of ranting about it in several places.
Yeah, yeah, you're not a Nazi. You're just pals with Nazis.
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 14, 2011, 07:49:06 AM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:47:38 AM
The avatar was actually suggested to me by a friend.
For what it's worth I personally think the whole concept of banning nude artwork, much the less vegetables, is ridiculous. I have a degree in Fine Art. I spent days of my life drawing and painting nude figures. By certain standards it seems that classifies me as a pornographer. That not only makes me laugh it makes me ANGRY. I found pictures by Georgia O'Keiffe simply to make a point which wasn't really heard. The fact that I saw edited versions of David and DaVinci's Vitruvian Man literally made smoke pour out my ears. It was not pretty and I did quite a bit of ranting about it in several places.
And yet not much of anything positive was done. :|
I noticed.... :sad:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 07:52:38 AM
Yeah, yeah, you're not a Nazi. You're just pals with Nazis.
I'm an idealist, still hoping and working for change. You might not agree with my methods and that's fine with me.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:56:16 AM
I'm an idealist, still hoping and working for change. You might not agree with my methods and that's fine with me.
You don't have methods. You're a rubber stamp for a junkie and a born-again Christian freak. They have agendas, you have some hand-wringing.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 07:58:55 AM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:56:16 AM
I'm an idealist, still hoping and working for change. You might not agree with my methods and that's fine with me.
You don't have methods. You're a rubber stamp for a junkie and a born-again Christian freak. They have agendas, you have some hand-wringing.
In other words, grow a fucking pair. That you are still apparently a mod there shows that for some gods-be-dammed reason you derive some sort of validation from that shit hole of a carbuncle on the ass end of the internet is disgusting, but then again I never pegged you as a biped. Maybe one day you will notice your thumbs and use some tools.
I have actually do have a point behind what I do and I have seen change over the years, both for good and bad. That said this is heading towards interboard stuff and it has been suggested by multiple people that I avoid that. I'm here as me, not as a mod from TCC and I'd really appreciate it if people would stop trying to drag TCC into (what seems like) every thread I get involved in.
Wyldkat...I think I just shat...
All over my pance
Groovy
I said Wyldkat...
Wyldkat, don't even know you
Don't even know The CC
Come on, ban my ass
lil' Nazi
Wyldkat...I think I just shat...
All over my pance
Groovy
I said Wyldkat...
Wyldkat, I think you mooned me
Aint that against the rules?
And now my, pance are tight
So ban me
FLAWLESS VICTORY.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 08:19:16 AM
I have actually do have a point behind what I do and I have seen change over the years, both for good and bad. That said this is heading towards interboard stuff and it has been suggested by multiple people that I avoid that. I'm here as me, not as a mod from TCC and I'd really appreciate it if people would stop trying to drag TCC into (what seems like) every thread I get involved in.
Then maybe you shouldn't be a moderator at a board run by fascists.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:47:38 AM
The avatar was actually suggested to me by a friend.
A friend that wants to watch you get reamed for it apparently. Anyone who's read the TCC banning thread (as you say you haven't) would know the kind of reaction you choosing that avatar would have. :lulz:
You know, it is positively amazing how, after an event, Wyldkat will insist she had no problem with it, raised concerns, was looking out for everyone's best interests etc
No evidence naturally, either through screenshots or through a change in TCC policies. But she tried, really she did, honest! A dog must've eaten her carefully stated concerns.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:56:16 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 14, 2011, 07:49:06 AM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:47:38 AM
The avatar was actually suggested to me by a friend.
For what it's worth I personally think the whole concept of banning nude artwork, much the less vegetables, is ridiculous. I have a degree in Fine Art. I spent days of my life drawing and painting nude figures. By certain standards it seems that classifies me as a pornographer. That not only makes me laugh it makes me ANGRY. I found pictures by Georgia O'Keiffe simply to make a point which wasn't really heard. The fact that I saw edited versions of David and DaVinci's Vitruvian Man literally made smoke pour out my ears. It was not pretty and I did quite a bit of ranting about it in several places.
And yet not much of anything positive was done. :|
I noticed.... :sad:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 07:52:38 AM
Yeah, yeah, you're not a Nazi. You're just pals with Nazis.
I'm an idealist, still hoping and working for change. You might not agree with my methods and that's fine with me.
Why are you "working and hoping for change" in a dead venue where said "change" doesn't matter? Unless it's because you're attracted to the laughable notion of your nonexistent "authority" there, and enjoy hanging out with the liars, hypocrites, and fascists.
Quote from: Aloe on May 14, 2011, 02:14:43 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:47:38 AM
The avatar was actually suggested to me by a friend.
A friend that wants to watch you get reamed for it apparently. Anyone who's read the TCC banning thread (as you say you haven't) would know the kind of reaction you choosing that avatar would have. :lulz:
I suspect that by "a friend" she means "EBS".
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 08:19:16 AM
I have actually do have a point behind what I do and I have seen change over the years, both for good and bad. That said this is heading towards interboard stuff and it has been suggested by multiple people that I avoid that. I'm here as me, not as a mod from TCC and I'd really appreciate it if people would stop trying to drag TCC into (what seems like) every thread I get involved in.
As long as you're a mod at TCC, you do not get to escape that. You are here as an exception to the quid pro quo rule. Deal with it or leave.
ATTN: Wyldkat--(I wrote this back when EB&G tried to be "friends" with TCC--and it blew up in our faces. That PD'ers are still over there using TCC for their playground--as well as MW--speaks to our hardiness and ability to laugh in the face of asshole forum politix):
From here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=13582.0
Apologetics--What a Crock of SHIT
I've come to realize that I've studied in the art of apologetics and that I've been a great, big follower of such movements as "keeping the peace" and "taking one for the team." But when it comes to groupthink, this notion is so flawed it smells of raw, stewing sewage.
You can NOT look at a movement like Discordia, Erisianism or the Subgenius Religion and expect to get comfortable with it. And if you are, you're doing it wrong. They're all designed to make you sit up and take notice of where the fuck you are and what the fuck you are doing. And if it don't look right, you're expected to fix it. Yeah, YOU, FIX IT!
So, when some asshole comes in and whines about all this chaos and how he just wants his life back where his fluffy ass was hopping along so nicely, well, he needs to be told to SHUTTHEFUCKUP and listen already! It's not just the patience and the learning of the thing--it's the understanding, the gut-feeling, the reaching into your inner foul stench and bleaching the whole anus.
Don't expect me, ever, to be a "hand across the divide," again. It don't work. It won't work. And only the foolish ever try. NO ONE LIKES TO BE SCAMMED. Go with the horrible tr00f--it may catch you some blowback, but in the end, it's worth it.
Cuz spending your time spreading doves only wastes energy. Instead, give an analysis of the poo that oozes, and show them how YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO EAT IT, DUMBASS. Just accept it's there and do what comes naturally afterwards.
Which would you rather be known for, anyway? Those who put the tree-scented freshener on the rear-view mirror of the shit-filled car?
Or the driver of said car? Who is driving car?
I don't ever remember trolling TCC so consider myself sort of neutral here.
Wyldkat, you are guilty by association, period. As long as you continue to hold on to your precious little tin god position and tolerating ill treatment, you are guilty.
The argument you presented here reeks of trying to walk a razors edge, and a little like bullshit.
...it's like Twinkle and MW, as far as I'm concerned, Hawk. All protests aside, if you can stomach asstard modding and adminning at a site and won't quit regardless of how others are treated and ghettoized...then you AIN'T a good "person" no matter how you whitewash your actions.
BUT BUT BUT, I just WANNA make it BETTER!
Yeah...uh huh. Sure.
Seein's BELIEVIN'!
Quote from: Jenne on May 14, 2011, 06:00:16 PM
...it's like Twinkle and MW, as far as I'm concerned, Hawk. All protests aside, if you can stomach asstard modding and adminning at a site and won't quit regardless of how others are treated and ghettoized...then you AIN'T a good "person" no matter how you whitewash your actions.
BUT BUT BUT, I just WANNA make it BETTER!
Yeah...uh huh. Sure.
Seein's BELIEVIN'!
Yeah. How many times have we seen this same dog and pony show now? Minimum of 5 different people I believe.
...exactly...which is why I recycled my old rant about the same place, lol. Why reinvent when it DOESN'T EVER FUCKING CHANGE?
I am new to PD. I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts. Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC. So I came here. And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!! :argh!:
TCC is creepy. Like MW2. I mean, it's good for sport, but the way those people think gives me douche chills.
That Snake Man guy...
The shit he spews makes me rage harder than anything. ANYTHING
Both TCC and MW totally creep me out. They have a vibe that is simultaneously selfish, hedonistic, and exploitative. Not nice places at all.
Quote from: Nigel on May 14, 2011, 07:03:55 PM
Both TCC and MW totally creep me out. They have a vibe that is simultaneously selfish, hedonistic, and exploitative. Not nice places at all.
Speaking strictly to the MW side of this, it is so controlling it has an ability to literally shut down conversation and open debate. From what I read TCC is exactly the same.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 07:06:20 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 14, 2011, 07:03:55 PM
Both TCC and MW totally creep me out. They have a vibe that is simultaneously selfish, hedonistic, and exploitative. Not nice places at all.
Speaking strictly to the MW side of this, it is so controlling it has an ability to literally shut down conversation and open debate. From what I read TCC is exactly the same.
Yep.
If it's not a wank-fest of admiration for the "elders", the conversation gets ended. Disagree with a mod or an "elder" and you get temp banned.
MW is easier, though, you can stay under the radar for a little while. TCC is good for a temp ban in less than a week, doesn't matter what you said or did.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 08:19:16 AM
I have actually do have a point behind what I do and I have seen change over the years, both for good and bad. That said this is heading towards interboard stuff and it has been suggested by multiple people that I avoid that. I'm here as me, not as a mod from TCC and I'd really appreciate it if people would stop trying to drag TCC into (what seems like) every thread I get involved in.
I don't give a fuck. You're here AND you're an admin at TCC, and I - for one - refuse to separate the two. It's no great secret that I wanted you banned alongside the other TCC admins, under the QPQ rule. Unfortunately, things didn't go my way.
And here you are, showing your "goodwill" by flaunting the reason a dozen or so people got banned at TCC in their faces.
You're a real piece of work, Wyldkat.
I hear a WAAAAHMbulance coming for Wyldkat.
LEAVE WYLDKAT ALONE!
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Anyone would think we'd revoked her posting privileges for 3 months, or fucked with her posts anonymously, the way she is going on.
That or the
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Quote from: Cain on May 14, 2011, 07:41:26 PM
LEAVE WYLDKAT ALONE!
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Anyone would think we'd revoked her posting privileges for 3 months, or fucked with her posts anonymously, the way she is going on.
:lulz: tr00f
The fact that you are able to even turn on your computer shocks me due to your total lack of anything resembling intellect or higher reasoning abilities. You aren't even a cunning piece of shit monkey. Your attempts at either cunning, by appearing honest, or pure honesty just fucking fall flat.
I got permabanned for daring to expose your shitty hypocritical modding, and again I must say I was only made aware of it because of how shitty your admin team is. Otherwise how would I have accidentally been given modding privileges. :lulz:
Worthless monkeys all of you.
So... Let me see if I'm starting to get the idea of how things work and people think around here:
4 posts is "going on" about something in a 3 page thread and stating my position and opinions on things is "going on."
Saying I'm going to take what I believed was well intended advice in trying to not inflame things between the boards is not a good thing.
The fact that I was accepted here as a poster seems to simply be to bash me (nearly) every time I post.
Putting up an avatar that I like and honestly had no idea was going to get such a flaming reaction is bad wrong. (Since so many people have issues with it, I'll take it down. I really didn't mean to cause an issue with it.)
No matter what my intentions or what change I've seen happen over the years at TCC I am inherently evil simply for being there.
It would be better for me to blow off a cause I care about because there are issues than to work to better it.
When part of a voting group, if a person does not get their way all the time they should give up because obviously they aren't succeeding at anything.
Did I miss anything?
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
So... Let me see if I'm starting to get the idea of how things work and people think around here:
4 posts is "going on" about something in a 3 page thread and stating my position and opinions on things is "going on."
Saying I'm going to take what I believed was well intended advice in trying to not inflame things between the boards is not a good thing.
The fact that I was accepted here as a poster seems to simply be to bash me (nearly) every time I post.
Putting up an avatar that I like and honestly had no idea was going to get such a flaming reaction is bad wrong. (Since so many people have issues with it, I'll take it down. I really didn't mean to cause an issue with it.)
No matter what my intentions or what change I've seen happen over the years at TCC I am inherently evil simply for being there.
It would be better for me to blow off a cause I care about because there are issues than to work to better it.
When part of a voting group, if a person does not get their way all the time they should give up because obviously they aren't succeeding at anything.
Did I miss anything?
Just one very important piece. Several of us here have walked away from mod/admin positions more than once due to morality issues with the boards. You continue to sell out.
You know, it's sad when Firewillow (who falsely accused me of committing a crime, a few years back) is a paragon of virtue when compared to you.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
So... Let me see if I'm starting to get the idea of how things work and people think around here:
4 posts is "going on" about something in a 3 page thread and stating my position and opinions on things is "going on."
Saying I'm going to take what I believed was well intended advice in trying to not inflame things between the boards is not a good thing.
The fact that I was accepted here as a poster seems to simply be to bash me (nearly) every time I post.
Putting up an avatar that I like and honestly had no idea was going to get such a flaming reaction is bad wrong. (Since so many people have issues with it, I'll take it down. I really didn't mean to cause an issue with it.)
No matter what my intentions or what change I've seen happen over the years at TCC I am inherently evil simply for being there.
It would be better for me to blow off a cause I care about because there are issues than to work to better it.
When part of a voting group, if a person does not get their way all the time they should give up because obviously they aren't succeeding at anything.
Did I miss anything?
Missing the point pinky.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
The fact that I was accepted here as a poster seems to simply be to bash me (nearly) every time I post.
Not until you put that avatar up, at a "friend's" suggestion. Say hello to EBS for us.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
No matter what my intentions or what change I've seen happen over the years at TCC I am inherently evil simply for being there.
Yeah, the changes over the last year have been AMAZING. :lulz: Now you have no traffic, no posters, no new content, nothing but a fucking crazed junkie, a useless old fuck who lies about being a ranger, and some religious freak. Oh, you also have the "rules" which GUARANTEE that NO NEW CONTENT will be permitted, unless it is also FLAGRANTLY ARSE-KISSING towards the "elders".
Fuck off. Get cancer or something, you arsed-up, two-faced, lying, hypocritical piece of filth.
NOT evil for being there, a sell out and shill for pretending that being a mod there means anything but a powertrip.
But like I said, whitewash it to hell and back.
It's still a turd on the lawn, yo.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
The fact that I was accepted here as a poster seems to simply be to bash me (nearly) every time I post.
Not until you put that avatar up, at a "friend's" suggestion. Say hello to EBS for us.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
No matter what my intentions or what change I've seen happen over the years at TCC I am inherently evil simply for being there.
Yeah, the changes over the last year have been AMAZING. :lulz: Now you have no traffic, no posters, no new content, nothing but a fucking crazed junkie, a useless old fuck who lies about being a ranger, and some religious freak. Oh, you also have the "rules" which GUARANTEE that NO NEW CONTENT will be permitted, unless it is also FLAGRANTLY ARSE-KISSING towards the "elders".
Fuck off. Get cancer or something, you arsed-up, two-faced, lying, hypocritical piece of filth.
Wyldkat: CHANGE you can BELIEVE IN. :lulz:
Quote from: Nigel on May 14, 2011, 08:23:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
The fact that I was accepted here as a poster seems to simply be to bash me (nearly) every time I post.
Not until you put that avatar up, at a "friend's" suggestion. Say hello to EBS for us.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
No matter what my intentions or what change I've seen happen over the years at TCC I am inherently evil simply for being there.
Yeah, the changes over the last year have been AMAZING. :lulz: Now you have no traffic, no posters, no new content, nothing but a fucking crazed junkie, a useless old fuck who lies about being a ranger, and some religious freak. Oh, you also have the "rules" which GUARANTEE that NO NEW CONTENT will be permitted, unless it is also FLAGRANTLY ARSE-KISSING towards the "elders".
Fuck off. Get cancer or something, you arsed-up, two-faced, lying, hypocritical piece of filth.
Wyldkat: CHANGE you can BELIEVE IN. :lulz:
YES WE CAN'T!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 08:24:38 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 14, 2011, 08:23:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
The fact that I was accepted here as a poster seems to simply be to bash me (nearly) every time I post.
Not until you put that avatar up, at a "friend's" suggestion. Say hello to EBS for us.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
No matter what my intentions or what change I've seen happen over the years at TCC I am inherently evil simply for being there.
Yeah, the changes over the last year have been AMAZING. :lulz: Now you have no traffic, no posters, no new content, nothing but a fucking crazed junkie, a useless old fuck who lies about being a ranger, and some religious freak. Oh, you also have the "rules" which GUARANTEE that NO NEW CONTENT will be permitted, unless it is also FLAGRANTLY ARSE-KISSING towards the "elders".
Fuck off. Get cancer or something, you arsed-up, two-faced, lying, hypocritical piece of filth.
Wyldkat: CHANGE you can BELIEVE IN. :lulz:
YES WE CAN'T WON'T!
SORRY, THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT.
More like WON'T!
As in anytime mods and admins are overreaching, it's because they WANT to be, not because they MUST. It's actually HARDER to not overadmin sometimes. Easier to powergrab and pretend folks should be able to say what they wanna say without being treated like 5 year olds.
People like Wyldkat and Twinkle (because to me, this is Twinkle Mach II) want posters like us to respect them and BELIEVE they have our best interests at heart. But are they really doing anything to change what they admit is shitty about their own place they mod/admin?
Uh, nope. Not atall atall.
So a great big FUCK OFF from me.
ETA: aw, Hawk beat me to it! :D
But Wyldkat's the GOOD one.
Like Swordie.
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 14, 2011, 08:41:18 PM
But Wyldkat's the GOOD one.
Like Swordie.
I am willing to concede that somewhere, there MIGHT be a nice, ethical Pagan.
But none that moderate internet forums. Not one.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 07:59:23 PM
Just one very important piece. Several of us here have walked away from mod/admin positions more than once due to morality issues with the boards. You continue to sell out.
Ok, since you aren't attacking me maybe you will be willing to explain where/how I am selling out. I'm not trying to be dense, I really don't get what people are so pissed off at me about and I'm sure admitting that is going to get me flamed, but I'm not going learn a damn thing unless I admit my ignorance, right? I'm a mod because I love the concept of the site, started there when I was still in college, have stuck with it through ups, downs, closures, the death of the founder, splits in the admin, high traffic, low traffic, etc... I mod as little as I possibly can. I always take the moderate side when it comes to admin issues. I didn't really think of it as a position of power until people here brought that up. I see myself as a public servant, not an all powerful overlord. I feel that sticking with it and continuing to press for moderation in moderation is what is best for the board. I admit that some of the admin decisions are not ones I would have made personally, but I've tried to look at the big picture over individual incidents.
What part of that is bad/wrong? What part of that is selling out?
P.S. To other people, re the avatar. EBS had nothing to do with it and my husband really liked it.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 07:59:23 PM
Just one very important piece. Several of us here have walked away from mod/admin positions more than once due to morality issues with the boards. You continue to sell out.
Ok, since you aren't attacking me maybe you will be willing to explain where/how I am selling out. I'm not trying to be dense, I really don't get what people are so pissed off at me about and I'm sure admitting that is going to get me flamed, but I'm not going learn a damn thing unless I admit my ignorance, right? I'm a mod because I love the concept of the site, started there when I was still in college, have stuck with it through ups, downs, closures, the death of the founder, splits in the admin, high traffic, low traffic, etc... I mod as little as I possibly can. I always take the moderate side when it comes to admin issues. I didn't really think of it as a position of power until people here brought that up. I see myself as a public servant, not an all powerful overlord. I feel that sticking with it and continuing to press for moderation in moderation is what is best for the board. I admit that some of the admin decisions are not ones I would have made personally, but I've tried to look at the big picture over individual incidents.
What part of that is bad/wrong? What part of that is selling out?
P.S. To other people, re the avatar. EBS had nothing to do with it and my husband really liked it.
You actually take a stand for nothing, and you've sold your soul to maintain a position on a dead board.
That is all.
Look, nothing you say here is going to make one bit of difference.
Defending your self = going in circles. :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Time to get hit by the
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Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 07:59:23 PM
Just one very important piece. Several of us here have walked away from mod/admin positions more than once due to morality issues with the boards. You continue to sell out.
Ok, since you aren't attacking me maybe you will be willing to explain where/how I am selling out. I'm not trying to be dense, I really don't get what people are so pissed off at me about and I'm sure admitting that is going to get me flamed, but I'm not going learn a damn thing unless I admit my ignorance, right? I'm a mod because I love the concept of the site, started there when I was still in college, have stuck with it through ups, downs, closures, the death of the founder, splits in the admin, high traffic, low traffic, etc... I mod as little as I possibly can. I always take the moderate side when it comes to admin issues. I didn't really think of it as a position of power until people here brought that up. I see myself as a public servant, not an all powerful overlord. I feel that sticking with it and continuing to press for moderation in moderation is what is best for the board. I admit that some of the admin decisions are not ones I would have made personally, but I've tried to look at the big picture over individual incidents.
What part of that is bad/wrong? What part of that is selling out?
P.S. To other people, re the avatar. EBS had nothing to do with it and my husband really liked it.
You maintain that you have been striving for a year to change the board. Yet unjust admin practices continue, ego is the rule of the day, you talk about the behind the scenes things but there is no real evidence. Once a horse is dead, continued beating serve no purpose. Any of us here would have walked away by no later than the second unfair admin event. Yet you continue, so we are left to draw the conclusion that your position means more to you than your ideals.
You can see, following this train of thought why you are held in such low esteem.
I beleive that WK is really fucking naive to miss the point of WHY we got pissy about the tree avatar. If, as she claims the censorship of the david and all the veggie pics made her angry why did she not speak up at the time on the non-mod boards and call it the petty stupid bullshit that it was?
And if you did, please find the posts so I can check em and screenshot them, as my account has not been banned as far as I know.
I'm the friend that suggested the avi, I liked the irony of her being able to wear it ehre when she couldn't wear it at TCC.
As far as the modding thing, I understand sticking with it, I don't understand going along with decisions that you fully understand to be wrong simply for group unity and I don't think that is a priority set that you are going to have any luck explaining to Discordians.
Sure, don't quit, but also don't serve as the whipping dog for EBS and Firesong. Instead when they decide that something stupid and wrong needs done, not only don't do it, but undo it when they do it. Sure, they'll unmod you pretty quickly, but that way rather than quitting you will have had your privileges revoked for doing the right thing.
Pixie, she did, let me link for you.
hxxp://wicca.com/forums/index.php?topic=4877.msg148577#msg148577
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 14, 2011, 09:04:13 PM
I'm the friend that suggested the avi, I liked the irony of her being able to wear it ehre when she couldn't wear it at TCC.
As far as the modding thing, I understand sticking with it, I don't understand going along with decisions that you fully understand to be wrong simply for group unity and I don't think that is a priority set that you are going to have any luck explaining to Discordians.
Sure, don't quit, but also don't serve as the whipping dog for EBS and Firesong. Instead when they decide that something stupid and wrong needs done, not only don't do it, but undo it when they do it. Sure, they'll unmod you pretty quickly, but that way rather than quitting you will have had your privileges revoked for doing the right thing.
Pixie, she did, let me link for you.
hxxp://wicca.com/forums/index.php?topic=4877.msg148577#msg148577
Babylon Quisling to the rescue!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 14, 2011, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 14, 2011, 09:04:13 PM
I'm the friend that suggested the avi, I liked the irony of her being able to wear it ehre when she couldn't wear it at TCC.
As far as the modding thing, I understand sticking with it, I don't understand going along with decisions that you fully understand to be wrong simply for group unity and I don't think that is a priority set that you are going to have any luck explaining to Discordians.
Sure, don't quit, but also don't serve as the whipping dog for EBS and Firesong. Instead when they decide that something stupid and wrong needs done, not only don't do it, but undo it when they do it. Sure, they'll unmod you pretty quickly, but that way rather than quitting you will have had your privileges revoked for doing the right thing.
Pixie, she did, let me link for you.
hxxp://wicca.com/forums/index.php?topic=4877.msg148577#msg148577
Babylon Quisling to the rescue!
Can't she defend herself? :?
I'm totally not surprised that BH told her to do it.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 08:50:34 PM
You maintain that you have been striving for a year to change the board. Yet unjust admin practices continue, ego is the rule of the day, you talk about the behind the scenes things but there is no real evidence. Once a horse is dead, continued beating serve no purpose. Any of us here would have walked away by no later than the second unfair admin event. Yet you continue, so we are left to draw the conclusion that your position means more to you than your ideals.
You can see, following this train of thought why you are held in such low esteem.
Ok, thank you for explaining clearly, I appreciate that. To clarify, I've been at TCC since around 1996. The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by. Since I'm not going to show screen shots of the admin board there is no way for me to support my claims and I understand that people here will not believe with out proof. I obviously look at the world differently than the people here. I am an idealist and that leads me to continue to try and reach those ideals, not give up and leave when things swing against those ideals. It would be easier to leave, but to me it would be the same as abandoning a child just because there are behavior issues.
Pixie: I ranted in the pornography thread about censorship. I don't remember what if anything I said specifically about the veggies on the main boards and I have no idea how to do screenshots. ETA Thanks BabylonHoruv
At this point I really think I've said everything I can about why I do what I do. You are all welcome to whatever opinions you wish to hold.
Thanks, Charley Brown, for explaining rather than attacking.
HOW TO DO SCREENSHOT.
PRESS "PRINT SCREEN"
COPY INTO MSPAINT
SAVE AS JPG OR PNG FILE.
UPLOAD TO PHOTOFUKKIT OAR SIMILAR
POST.
?????
Profit.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 08:50:34 PM
You maintain that you have been striving for a year to change the board. Yet unjust admin practices continue, ego is the rule of the day, you talk about the behind the scenes things but there is no real evidence. Once a horse is dead, continued beating serve no purpose. Any of us here would have walked away by no later than the second unfair admin event. Yet you continue, so we are left to draw the conclusion that your position means more to you than your ideals.
You can see, following this train of thought why you are held in such low esteem.
Ok, thank you for explaining clearly, I appreciate that. To clarify, I've been at TCC since around 1996. The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by. Since I'm not going to show screen shots of the admin board there is no way for me to support my claims and I understand that people here will not believe with out proof. I obviously look at the world differently than the people here. I am an idealist and that leads me to continue to try and reach those ideals, not give up and leave when things swing against those ideals. It would be easier to leave, but to me it would be the same as abandoning a child just because there are behavior issues.
Pixie: I ranted in the pornography thread about censorship. I don't remember what if anything I said specifically about the veggies on the main boards and I have no idea how to do screenshots. ETA Thanks BabylonHoruv
At this point I really think I've said everything I can about why I do what I do. You are all welcome to whatever opinions you wish to hold.
Thanks, Charley Brown, for explaining rather than attacking.
Comparing a tyrannical forum to an abandoned child isn't going to cut it. I was a years long member of MW, like so many others here and rather than "try to fix what was beyond repair" like so many others here I left. Yes, I was permabanned, but the thread I started that led to my ban was deliberate.
Roger, Cain and myself walked away from admin positions at Shadows board when he started the same thing. I was going to walk away from EB&G because of the same thing but the owner unmodded me first.
I guess what I am trying to say is, no, we can not understand your willingness to accept that kind of behavior under the guise of trying to change it. We are indeed not idealists, we are realists, a part of Discordianism I suppose. We try very hard to see things as they really are, not what we would like fo0r them to be.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 09:19:05 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 08:50:34 PM
You maintain that you have been striving for a year to change the board. Yet unjust admin practices continue, ego is the rule of the day, you talk about the behind the scenes things but there is no real evidence. Once a horse is dead, continued beating serve no purpose. Any of us here would have walked away by no later than the second unfair admin event. Yet you continue, so we are left to draw the conclusion that your position means more to you than your ideals.
You can see, following this train of thought why you are held in such low esteem.
Ok, thank you for explaining clearly, I appreciate that. To clarify, I've been at TCC since around 1996. The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by. Since I'm not going to show screen shots of the admin board there is no way for me to support my claims and I understand that people here will not believe with out proof. I obviously look at the world differently than the people here. I am an idealist and that leads me to continue to try and reach those ideals, not give up and leave when things swing against those ideals. It would be easier to leave, but to me it would be the same as abandoning a child just because there are behavior issues.
Pixie: I ranted in the pornography thread about censorship. I don't remember what if anything I said specifically about the veggies on the main boards and I have no idea how to do screenshots. ETA Thanks BabylonHoruv
At this point I really think I've said everything I can about why I do what I do. You are all welcome to whatever opinions you wish to hold.
Thanks, Charley Brown, for explaining rather than attacking.
Comparing a tyrannical forum to an abandoned child isn't going to cut it. I was a years long member of MW, like so many others here and rather than "try to fix what was beyond repair" like so many others here I left. Yes, I was permabanned, but the thread I started that led to my ban was deliberate.
Roger, Cain and myself walked away from admin positions at Shadows board when he started the same thing. I was going to walk away from EB&G because of the same thing but the owner unmodded me first.
I guess what I am trying to say is, no, we can not understand your willingness to accept that kind of behavior under the guise of trying to change it. We are indeed not idealists, we are realists, a part of Discordianism I suppose. We try very hard to see things as they really are, not what we would like fo0r them to be.
:mittens: :mittens: :mittens:
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 09:19:05 PM
Comparing a tyrannical forum to an abandoned child isn't going to cut it. I was a years long member of MW, like so many others here and rather than "try to fix what was beyond repair" like so many others here I left. Yes, I was permabanned, but the thread I started that led to my ban was deliberate.
Roger, Cain and myself walked away from admin positions at Shadows board when he started the same thing. I was going to walk away from EB&G because of the same thing but the owner unmodded me first.
I guess what I am trying to say is, no, we can not understand your willingness to accept that kind of behavior under the guise of trying to change it. We are indeed not idealists, we are realists, a part of Discordianism I suppose. We try very hard to see things as they really are, not what we would like fo0r them to be.
I was just giving my reasoning. That's simply how I feel. I do understand the other side of it, but I don't agree. I am horrible at giving up at things. I'd rather stay on a sinking ship and try to fix the holes than abandon it to the depths. Probably masochism on my part. I do try to be a realist, but the idealist in me fights it and tends to win. *shrugs* Your last post really helped explain why there is so much distaste of that choice on my part though. Thanks again.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:29:09 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 09:19:05 PM
Comparing a tyrannical forum to an abandoned child isn't going to cut it. I was a years long member of MW, like so many others here and rather than "try to fix what was beyond repair" like so many others here I left. Yes, I was permabanned, but the thread I started that led to my ban was deliberate.
Roger, Cain and myself walked away from admin positions at Shadows board when he started the same thing. I was going to walk away from EB&G because of the same thing but the owner unmodded me first.
I guess what I am trying to say is, no, we can not understand your willingness to accept that kind of behavior under the guise of trying to change it. We are indeed not idealists, we are realists, a part of Discordianism I suppose. We try very hard to see things as they really are, not what we would like fo0r them to be.
I was just giving my reasoning. That's simply how I feel. I do understand the other side of it, but I don't agree. I am horrible at giving up at things. I'd rather stay on a sinking ship and try to fix the holes than abandon it to the depths. Probably masochism on my part. I do try to be a realist, but the idealist in me fights it and tends to win. *shrugs* Your last post really helped explain why there is so much distaste of that choice on my part though. Thanks again.
MASOCHISM?
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So TCC =
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That sounds about right.
I've realy been missing out by not going there.
I now have a sad... :cry:
Quote from: Aloe on May 14, 2011, 06:06:55 PM
I am new to PD. I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts. Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC. So I came here. And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!! :argh!:
By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke Up
TM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.
In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'. Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 14, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: Aloe on May 14, 2011, 06:06:55 PM
I am new to PD. I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts. Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC. So I came here. And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!! :argh!:
By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke UpTM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.
In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'. Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.
That is what separates us from so many other forums. Lack of independent thought here will result in mental beatings, for the most part.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:09:39 PM
The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by.
I never, ever would have joined a board where "more moderate" modding was like TCC is
now. I
only tolerated the rules TCC runs by, explicitly because I was eventually going to be trolling it (after actually, carefully ingratiating myself with you so I could get away with ten times more than I would have otherwise). And the first time I looked at the rules there, I almost said "fuck it" anyway. Why the hell would anyone with a remotely independent will join a board like you're suggesting it was? And why would you spend a decade and a half there?
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 14, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: Aloe on May 14, 2011, 06:06:55 PM
I am new to PD. I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts. Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC. So I came here. And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!! :argh!:
By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke UpTM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.
In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'. Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.
My main issues with Wyldkat is that she's a TCC mod, and the reason why I got pissed off at TCC and left was the modding. I don't post TCC style shit over here, and from what I've seen you don't either. Wyldkat, IMO, does.
TCC exists for when you're bored and have time to get your frustrations out by pissing off stupid people. Period.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 14, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: Aloe on May 14, 2011, 06:06:55 PM
I am new to PD. I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts. Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC. So I came here. And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!! :argh!:
By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke UpTM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.
In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'. Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.
I successfully got one of the Mods to come see how awesome PD is. She thought it was so awesome that she's now joined up.
Now I'm not saying don't shit on her, we shit on everyone. But shitting on her simply because she mods TCC and doesn't do so well enough to balance out the fact that most of the mods are complete asstards doesn't do anyone any good.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 14, 2011, 11:56:43 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 14, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: Aloe on May 14, 2011, 06:06:55 PM
I am new to PD. I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts. Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC. So I came here. And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!! :argh!:
By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke UpTM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.
In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'. Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.
I successfully got one of the Mods to come see how awesome PD is. She thought it was so awesome that she's now joined up.
Now I'm not saying don't shit on her, we shit on everyone. But shitting on her simply because she mods TCC and doesn't do so well enough to balance out the fact that most of the mods are complete asstards doesn't do anyone any good.
Next time I will try bonding over bondage before temping people to PD. :lulz:
Quote from: Hover Cat on May 14, 2011, 10:57:20 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:09:39 PM
The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by.
I never, ever would have joined a board where "more moderate" modding was like TCC is now. I only tolerated the rules TCC runs by, explicitly because I was eventually going to be trolling it (after actually, carefully ingratiating myself with you so I could get away with ten times more than I would have otherwise). And the first time I looked at the rules there, I almost said "fuck it" anyway. Why the hell would anyone with a remotely independent will join a board like you're suggesting it was? And why would you spend a decade and a half there?
Mini history (hoping that I can remember the details semi-correctly): There weren't anything like official rules or guidelines like there are now, other than very loosely for most of the time Herne was alive, at least not as far as I can remember. They might have been there but they were never really much of an issue. There were some problems, but as long as he was alive it was his deal, his rules, his place. Moderating at that point was simply hanging around and answering questions from newcomers for the most part. Eventually a bunch of stuff went sideways and he closed down the boards (don't remember the exact details atm, might have been trolling, not sure). The boards were reopened after he died (he was talking with me about doing so before he passed) that was when rules and guidelines and group decisions started in force. That was also when more problems started happening more often, whether that is coincidence or not I can't say for sure. It is moderation from that point that I'm talking about growing more moderate.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 14, 2011, 11:56:43 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 14, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: Aloe on May 14, 2011, 06:06:55 PM
I am new to PD. I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts. Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC. So I came here. And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!! :argh!:
By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke UpTM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.
In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'. Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.
I successfully got one of the Mods to come see how awesome PD is. She thought it was so awesome that she's now joined up.
Now I'm not saying don't shit on her, we shit on everyone. But shitting on her simply because she mods TCC and doesn't do so well enough to balance out the fact that most of the mods are complete asstards doesn't do anyone any good.
She willingly mods there. WILLINGLY. MODS. THERE.
She can leave. it is possible to stop modding there. FW did it. And it sounds like Hjol either did or was 'retired'. The she, and other people, defend her choosing to hang onto that waste of electrons and magnetic states is sad and infuriating.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 15, 2011, 02:19:48 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on May 14, 2011, 10:57:20 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:09:39 PM
The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by.
I never, ever would have joined a board where "more moderate" modding was like TCC is now. I only tolerated the rules TCC runs by, explicitly because I was eventually going to be trolling it (after actually, carefully ingratiating myself with you so I could get away with ten times more than I would have otherwise). And the first time I looked at the rules there, I almost said "fuck it" anyway. Why the hell would anyone with a remotely independent will join a board like you're suggesting it was? And why would you spend a decade and a half there?
Mini history (hoping that I can remember the details semi-correctly): There weren't anything like official rules or guidelines like there are now, other than very loosely for most of the time Herne was alive, at least not as far as I can remember. They might have been there but they were never really much of an issue. There were some problems, but as long as he was alive it was his deal, his rules, his place. Moderating at that point was simply hanging around and answering questions from newcomers for the most part. Eventually a bunch of stuff went sideways and he closed down the boards (don't remember the exact details atm, might have been trolling, not sure). The boards were reopened after he died (he was talking with me about doing so before he passed) that was when rules and guidelines and group decisions started in force. That was also when more problems started happening more often, whether that is coincidence or not I can't say for sure. It is moderation from that point that I'm talking about growing more moderate.
:lulz: Who the fuck were the new powerhouses at TCC then, besides you? I'm going to guess Firetard, at the very least.
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Quote from: Wyldkat on May 15, 2011, 02:19:48 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on May 14, 2011, 10:57:20 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:09:39 PM
The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by.
I never, ever would have joined a board where "more moderate" modding was like TCC is now. I only tolerated the rules TCC runs by, explicitly because I was eventually going to be trolling it (after actually, carefully ingratiating myself with you so I could get away with ten times more than I would have otherwise). And the first time I looked at the rules there, I almost said "fuck it" anyway. Why the hell would anyone with a remotely independent will join a board like you're suggesting it was? And why would you spend a decade and a half there?
Mini history (hoping that I can remember the details semi-correctly): There weren't anything like official rules or guidelines like there are now, other than very loosely for most of the time Herne was alive, at least not as far as I can remember. They might have been there but they were never really much of an issue. There were some problems, but as long as he was alive it was his deal, his rules, his place. Moderating at that point was simply hanging around and answering questions from newcomers for the most part. Eventually a bunch of stuff went sideways and he closed down the boards (don't remember the exact details atm, might have been trolling, not sure). The boards were reopened after he died (he was talking with me about doing so before he passed) that was when rules and guidelines and group decisions started in force. That was also when more problems started happening more often, whether that is coincidence or not I can't say for sure. It is moderation from that point that I'm talking about growing more moderate.
:lulz: Who the fuck were the new powerhouses at TCC then, besides you? I'm going to guess Firetard, at the very least.
Firesong, yeah. And EBS. I don't think most of the rest of the Elders dick with the chat. We've seen how often Emerald Enchantress and Silverhands and Blackmoon Owl get involved.
Oh, how predictable! I won't list their sins (EBS and Firetard, that is) because that would take all night and I have more important things to do, but do you honestly, seriously, sincerely that it just might be a coincidence, WK? Even for a red hot minute? Because if you do, then that's just sad.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 15, 2011, 02:19:48 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on May 14, 2011, 10:57:20 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:09:39 PM
The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by.
I never, ever would have joined a board where "more moderate" modding was like TCC is now. I only tolerated the rules TCC runs by, explicitly because I was eventually going to be trolling it (after actually, carefully ingratiating myself with you so I could get away with ten times more than I would have otherwise). And the first time I looked at the rules there, I almost said "fuck it" anyway. Why the hell would anyone with a remotely independent will join a board like you're suggesting it was? And why would you spend a decade and a half there?
Mini history (hoping that I can remember the details semi-correctly): There weren't anything like official rules or guidelines like there are now, other than very loosely for most of the time Herne was alive, at least not as far as I can remember. They might have been there but they were never really much of an issue. There were some problems, but as long as he was alive it was his deal, his rules, his place. Moderating at that point was simply hanging around and answering questions from newcomers for the most part. Eventually a bunch of stuff went sideways and he closed down the boards (don't remember the exact details atm, might have been trolling, not sure). The boards were reopened after he died (he was talking with me about doing so before he passed) that was when rules and guidelines and group decisions started in force. That was also when more problems started happening more often, whether that is coincidence or not I can't say for sure. It is moderation from that point that I'm talking about growing more moderate.
Law of Eristic escalation,
baby.
Imposition of Order = Escalation of DisorderI'd also urge a 2 week monastic retreat from even logging in to TCC. (That's what I did, and when I came back it was apparent to me that the forum wasn't worth my Content floating around or one of my characters attached to it *tingly foreshadowing music*).
As a Moderator, your karma is too tangled into the place (and I say this knowing that your concept of 'karma' is probably 72% bullshit, but hey, we can have that conversation later, it'll be an interesting one), and the attachments cloud the will to action. Everyone else sees the stagnation bleeding from you, which is pretty impressive in a text only medium (let me guess, you get light sensitive headaches sometimes, and stress manifests as a burning tension in the back of your head/down your upper back?).
Don't announce it, and don't comment unless asked in person. Find an old hobby that you enjoyed which TCC are into the time for. Spend more time with the kiddo (notice i said 'more' :D). Play a video game/read a book all the way through. Even if for just 1 week, experience each and every "This Moment" knowing that you don't have to go there for fulfillment. You'll come back with fresh eyes and be able to make a decision and take action on it.
Quote from: Telarus on May 15, 2011, 08:15:34 AM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 15, 2011, 02:19:48 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on May 14, 2011, 10:57:20 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:09:39 PM
The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by.
I never, ever would have joined a board where "more moderate" modding was like TCC is now. I only tolerated the rules TCC runs by, explicitly because I was eventually going to be trolling it (after actually, carefully ingratiating myself with you so I could get away with ten times more than I would have otherwise). And the first time I looked at the rules there, I almost said "fuck it" anyway. Why the hell would anyone with a remotely independent will join a board like you're suggesting it was? And why would you spend a decade and a half there?
Mini history (hoping that I can remember the details semi-correctly): There weren't anything like official rules or guidelines like there are now, other than very loosely for most of the time Herne was alive, at least not as far as I can remember. They might have been there but they were never really much of an issue. There were some problems, but as long as he was alive it was his deal, his rules, his place. Moderating at that point was simply hanging around and answering questions from newcomers for the most part. Eventually a bunch of stuff went sideways and he closed down the boards (don't remember the exact details atm, might have been trolling, not sure). The boards were reopened after he died (he was talking with me about doing so before he passed) that was when rules and guidelines and group decisions started in force. That was also when more problems started happening more often, whether that is coincidence or not I can't say for sure. It is moderation from that point that I'm talking about growing more moderate.
Law of Eristic escalation, baby.
Imposition of Order = Escalation of Disorder
I'd also urge a 2 week monastic retreat from even logging in to TCC. (That's what I did, and when I came back it was apparent to me that the forum wasn't worth my Content floating around or one of my characters attached to it *tingly foreshadowing music*).
As a Moderator, your karma is too tangled into the place (and I say this knowing that your concept of 'karma' is probably 72% bullshit, but hey, we can have that conversation later, it'll be an interesting one), and the attachments cloud the will to action. Everyone else sees the stagnation bleeding from you, which is pretty impressive in a text only medium (let me guess, you get light sensitive headaches sometimes, and stress manifests as a burning tension in the back of your head/down your upper back?).
Don't announce it, and don't comment unless asked in person. Find an old hobby that you enjoyed which TCC are into the time for. Spend more time with the kiddo (notice i said 'more' :D). Play a video game/read a book all the way through. Even if for just 1 week, experience each and every "This Moment" knowing that you don't have to go there for fulfillment. You'll come back with fresh eyes and be able to make a decision and take action on it.
As a side note, I'm still pissed your poetry got nuked.
Quote from: Telarus on May 15, 2011, 08:15:34 AM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 15, 2011, 02:19:48 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on May 14, 2011, 10:57:20 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:09:39 PM
The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by.
I never, ever would have joined a board where "more moderate" modding was like TCC is now. I only tolerated the rules TCC runs by, explicitly because I was eventually going to be trolling it (after actually, carefully ingratiating myself with you so I could get away with ten times more than I would have otherwise). And the first time I looked at the rules there, I almost said "fuck it" anyway. Why the hell would anyone with a remotely independent will join a board like you're suggesting it was? And why would you spend a decade and a half there?
Mini history (hoping that I can remember the details semi-correctly): There weren't anything like official rules or guidelines like there are now, other than very loosely for most of the time Herne was alive, at least not as far as I can remember. They might have been there but they were never really much of an issue. There were some problems, but as long as he was alive it was his deal, his rules, his place. Moderating at that point was simply hanging around and answering questions from newcomers for the most part. Eventually a bunch of stuff went sideways and he closed down the boards (don't remember the exact details atm, might have been trolling, not sure). The boards were reopened after he died (he was talking with me about doing so before he passed) that was when rules and guidelines and group decisions started in force. That was also when more problems started happening more often, whether that is coincidence or not I can't say for sure. It is moderation from that point that I'm talking about growing more moderate.
Law of Eristic escalation, baby.
Imposition of Order = Escalation of Disorder
I'd also urge a 2 week monastic retreat from even logging in to TCC. (That's what I did, and when I came back it was apparent to me that the forum wasn't worth my Content floating around or one of my characters attached to it *tingly foreshadowing music*).
As a Moderator, your karma is too tangled into the place (and I say this knowing that your concept of 'karma' is probably 72% bullshit, but hey, we can have that conversation later, it'll be an interesting one), and the attachments cloud the will to action. Everyone else sees the stagnation bleeding from you, which is pretty impressive in a text only medium (let me guess, you get light sensitive headaches sometimes, and stress manifests as a burning tension in the back of your head/down your upper back?).
Don't announce it, and don't comment unless asked in person. Find an old hobby that you enjoyed which TCC are into the time for. Spend more time with the kiddo (notice i said 'more' :D). Play a video game/read a book all the way through. Even if for just 1 week, experience each and every "This Moment" knowing that you don't have to go there for fulfillment. You'll come back with fresh eyes and be able to make a decision and take action on it.
I've considered taking a break several times. I don't have those symptoms though.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 15, 2011, 08:24:07 AM
I've considered taking a break several times. I don't have those symptoms though.
Okay. I preface this with "I am not trying to be a dick."
You have stated that you try to temper the retardation the other mods pull and usually don't get anywhere with it. Majority rules and the majority over there is made up of asshats.
So you aren't doing much good right now.
You have stated that you get overwhelmed over there and you are left with stress and anxiety over some of the crazy that happens. Granted, this was mostly when the PD-ers were blowing up shit left, right, and slightly adjacent of center . . . but it is true regardless.
So the place stresses you the fuck out.
My question is this: If you aren't making headway and just getting stressed out - why NOT take a break for awhile?
What keeps you there? What will you taking a two week hiatus change on the site itself?
Nothing that she could possibly stop if she stuck around. She's always outnumbered and the voice in the wilderness, remember?
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 15, 2011, 08:24:07 AM
I've considered taking a break several times. I don't have those symptoms though.
That's positive, the reason I mention those things is that computer related stress (sitting, typing) restrict blood-flow to certain muscles, and monkey-politics (especially repressing frustration at, or while rationalizing something you don't have assertive power over) triggers Reichian muscle armor in others (mostly tied up with the shoulder-blades freedom of movement, which interrupts breathing leading to low-oxygen light sensitivity in extreme cases). Everyone gets those symptoms sometimes, it's based on our architecture, but not everyone develops them to the debilitating degree I mentioned first.
WK, if you feel that it's not being modded the way you want it to, why not start your own forum?
FFS, it's the internet. It's a fucking forum on the internet. Try a little perspective - this is a meaningless hobby, it's entertainment, like watching gerry springer or american idol but more interactive. If it's pissing you off - stop doing it. There are no consequenses to this. Even if, as a direct result of you leaving, the whole board dies and never comes back, so what? Another meaningless internet diversion ceases to exist, just as another million pop up to take it's place.
You're making this "modding" thing sound like a job or a duty or some bullshit. Get real - if it's not putting a roof over your head or food in your belly then it means absolutely fuck all beyond what you decide it means.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2011, 03:45:58 PM
FFS, it's the internet. It's a fucking forum on the internet. Try a little perspective - this is a meaningless hobby, it's entertainment, like watching gerry springer or american idol but more interactive. If it's pissing you off - stop doing it. There are no consequenses to this. Even if, as a direct result of you leaving, the whole board dies and never comes back, so what? Another meaningless internet diversion ceases to exist, just as another million pop up to take it's place.
You're making this "modding" thing sound like a job or a duty or some bullshit. Get real - if it's not putting a roof over your head or food in your belly then it means absolutely fuck all beyond what you decide it means.
P3nT is tearing it up on the correct motorcycle.
I always ride the correct motorcycle. It's just that sometimes I sit the wrong way around :D
Sometimes he sits it side saddle.
Not technically incorrect, so long as he is doing his Scottish version of Beautiful Fairy Princess.
Quote from: Payne on May 15, 2011, 04:04:27 PM
Sometimes he sits it side saddle.
Not technically incorrect, so long as he is doing his Scottish version of Beautiful Fairy Princess.
Oh. Fuck.
Visual.
Goddamn.
Quote from: Luna on May 15, 2011, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: Payne on May 15, 2011, 04:04:27 PM
Sometimes he sits it side saddle.
Not technically incorrect, so long as he is doing his Scottish version of Beautiful Fairy Princess.
Oh. Fuck.
Visual.
Goddamn.
Trufact: P3nT is the Prettiest Little Girl in all of Central Scotland. Prettier even than Tommy Sheridan who is unspeakably cute.
Quote from: Payne on May 15, 2011, 04:04:27 PM
Sometimes he sits it side saddle.
Not technically incorrect, so long as he is doing his Scottish version of Beautiful Fairy Princess.
I hope he is wearing proper leg-wear as well. Chaffing can be a bitch.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2011, 03:45:58 PM
FFS, it's the internet. It's a fucking forum on the internet. Try a little perspective - this is a meaningless hobby, it's entertainment, like watching gerry springer or american idol but more interactive. If it's pissing you off - stop doing it. There are no consequenses to this. Even if, as a direct result of you leaving, the whole board dies and never comes back, so what? Another meaningless internet diversion ceases to exist, just as another million pop up to take it's place.
You're making this "modding" thing sound like a job or a duty or some bullshit. Get real - if it's not putting a roof over your head or food in your belly then it means absolutely fuck all beyond what you decide it means.
While you are completely right, P3NT, in this case, technically, but
DONT EVEN THINK YOU CAN USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE FOR
YOU TO EVER LEAVE
THIS PLACE :argh!:
... ;-)
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2011, 03:45:58 PM
FFS, it's the internet. It's a fucking forum on the internet. Try a little perspective - this is a meaningless hobby, it's entertainment, like watching gerry springer or american idol but more interactive. If it's pissing you off - stop doing it. There are no consequenses to this. Even if, as a direct result of you leaving, the whole board dies and never comes back, so what? Another meaningless internet diversion ceases to exist, just as another million pop up to take it's place.
You're making this "modding" thing sound like a job or a duty or some bullshit. Get real - if it's not putting a roof over your head or food in your belly then it means absolutely fuck all beyond what you decide it means.
Pretty much what I was going to say. The effort put into this shithole could be directed in a much more constructive manner...volunteer at a hospice or an animal shelter or something, instead of beating your head against the wall at a place that nobody gives a fuck about.
Quote from: Payne on May 14, 2011, 09:40:25 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:29:09 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 09:19:05 PM
Comparing a tyrannical forum to an abandoned child isn't going to cut it. I was a years long member of MW, like so many others here and rather than "try to fix what was beyond repair" like so many others here I left. Yes, I was permabanned, but the thread I started that led to my ban was deliberate.
Roger, Cain and myself walked away from admin positions at Shadows board when he started the same thing. I was going to walk away from EB&G because of the same thing but the owner unmodded me first.
I guess what I am trying to say is, no, we can not understand your willingness to accept that kind of behavior under the guise of trying to change it. We are indeed not idealists, we are realists, a part of Discordianism I suppose. We try very hard to see things as they really are, not what we would like fo0r them to be.
I was just giving my reasoning. That's simply how I feel. I do understand the other side of it, but I don't agree. I am horrible at giving up at things. I'd rather stay on a sinking ship and try to fix the holes than abandon it to the depths. Probably masochism on my part. I do try to be a realist, but the idealist in me fights it and tends to win. *shrugs* Your last post really helped explain why there is so much distaste of that choice on my part though. Thanks again.
MASOCHISM?
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/Curious.jpg)
If Wyldkat is a masochist, it seems likely she could be enjoying the treatment she's gotten here.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 08:50:34 PM
You maintain that you have been striving for a year to change the board. Yet unjust admin practices continue, ego is the rule of the day, you talk about the behind the scenes things but there is no real evidence. Once a horse is dead, continued beating serve no purpose. Any of us here would have walked away by no later than the second unfair admin event. Yet you continue, so we are left to draw the conclusion that your position means more to you than your ideals.
You can see, following this train of thought why you are held in such low esteem.
Ok, thank you for explaining clearly, I appreciate that. To clarify, I've been at TCC since around 1996. The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by. Since I'm not going to show screen shots of the admin board there is no way for me to support my claims and I understand that people here will not believe with out proof. I obviously look at the world differently than the people here. I am an idealist and that leads me to continue to try and reach those ideals, not give up and leave when things swing against those ideals. It would be easier to leave, but to me it would be the same as abandoning a child just because there are behavior issues.
Pixie: I ranted in the pornography thread about censorship. I don't remember what if anything I said specifically about the veggies on the main boards and I have no idea how to do screenshots. ETA Thanks BabylonHoruv
At this point I really think I've said everything I can about why I do what I do. You are all welcome to whatever opinions you wish to hold.
Thanks, Charley Brown, for explaining rather than attacking.
you know what's a word that's almost always synonymous with "idealist"?
Fascist.
As for the "abandoning a child" analogy, in this instance the child in question has eaten your cat, burned down your house, impregnated your grandma, and voted for John Boehner. It's time to send the little turd to the orphanage.
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:29:09 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 09:19:05 PM
Comparing a tyrannical forum to an abandoned child isn't going to cut it. I was a years long member of MW, like so many others here and rather than "try to fix what was beyond repair" like so many others here I left. Yes, I was permabanned, but the thread I started that led to my ban was deliberate.
Roger, Cain and myself walked away from admin positions at Shadows board when he started the same thing. I was going to walk away from EB&G because of the same thing but the owner unmodded me first.
I guess what I am trying to say is, no, we can not understand your willingness to accept that kind of behavior under the guise of trying to change it. We are indeed not idealists, we are realists, a part of Discordianism I suppose. We try very hard to see things as they really are, not what we would like fo0r them to be.
I was just giving my reasoning. That's simply how I feel. I do understand the other side of it, but I don't agree. I am horrible at giving up at things. I'd rather stay on a sinking ship and try to fix the holes than abandon it to the depths. Probably masochism on my part. I do try to be a realist, but the idealist in me fights it and tends to win. *shrugs* Your last post really helped explain why there is so much distaste of that choice on my part though. Thanks again.
The fact that you recognize this and choose to ignore it in favor of something that makes you feel good in spite of it's complete lack of connection to Real Reality tells me that your chances of ever learning to walk upright are pretty fuckin' slim.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 14, 2011, 11:56:43 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 14, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: Aloe on May 14, 2011, 06:06:55 PM
I am new to PD. I like it, it's causing me to rethink some of my concepts. Concepts that grew like a nasty fungus when my brain got lazy in places like TCC. So I came here. And every time Wyldkat posts here all I see is that someone just shat TCC on PD!!! :argh!:
By that logic, you and I are shitting TCC all over PD as well. You were more than happy to be one of the meek little peace keeper light and fluff types until you finally Woke UpTM. You shitting on Wyldkat for being from TCC sort of stupid and counter-productive if you're just doing it to fit in with a new crowd instead of actually thinking for yourself. It's also stupid and counter-productive if you think of yourself as a kind and compassionate person - except for when there's a really bitchin' bandwagon to jump on.
In the name of full disclosure: my own case. I was convinced in the beginning of the drama I stumbled into that I could help reconcile PD and TCC. But TCC can't hack being called on its bullshit and PD refuses to water itself down to 'acceptable levels'. Oil and water. So I threw myself into the gap, in small ways, until I got tired. This mostly consisted of trying to get various mods to come over to PD.com and read up on all the awesome shit that gets talked about here. Then I just made popcorn and watched. Then I started thinking. And stopped trying to have everything both ways. That's how it looked to me, anyway. Others might have another take.
I successfully got one of the Mods to come see how awesome PD is. She thought it was so awesome that she's now joined up.
Now I'm not saying don't shit on her, we shit on everyone. But shitting on her simply because she mods TCC and doesn't do so well enough to balance out the fact that most of the mods are complete asstards doesn't do anyone any good.
I really wish you'd get neck cancer and stop using up my precious air.
Sorry, I call bullshit. Esp on the butthurt about "ooh, you're ATTACKING ME ITT." Um. Yeah, you're a shill--and you mod at a fascist forum. And have done. FOR YEARS.
I don't respect people who admin and mod at MW or TCC. That's just the way it goes. You're akin to a Nazi sympathizer to me. I realize that's hyperbole, but if the shoe fucking fits, wear the hell out of it.
I also usually don't indiscriminately bitch at people and harrass them, but there's one thing I absofuckinglutely CANNOT stand--and that's a forum hypocrite. And they're usually the ones that spy for another Nazi internet outfit. And TCC has shown to have mods/admins who've already done that.
I have no patience, respect OR faith in anyone who still mods/admins over there and comes over here. Esp if all you're about is defending your pisspoor forum.
"Abandoning a child"? Motherfucking PLEASE. (edited to redact)
"abandoning a child"??????
I think I just shat myself out loud. A child is a small, humanoid bag of biological matter. TCC is a couple thousand lines of php code and a database full of patchouli and fairy sparkles.
If I had a child like that I'd stove the fucker's head in with a shovel :lulz:
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on May 15, 2011, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: Wyldkat on May 14, 2011, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 14, 2011, 08:50:34 PM
You maintain that you have been striving for a year to change the board. Yet unjust admin practices continue, ego is the rule of the day, you talk about the behind the scenes things but there is no real evidence. Once a horse is dead, continued beating serve no purpose. Any of us here would have walked away by no later than the second unfair admin event. Yet you continue, so we are left to draw the conclusion that your position means more to you than your ideals.
You can see, following this train of thought why you are held in such low esteem.
Ok, thank you for explaining clearly, I appreciate that. To clarify, I've been at TCC since around 1996. The modding practices have swung in both directions, getting consistently more moderate as the years went by. Since I'm not going to show screen shots of the admin board there is no way for me to support my claims and I understand that people here will not believe with out proof. I obviously look at the world differently than the people here. I am an idealist and that leads me to continue to try and reach those ideals, not give up and leave when things swing against those ideals. It would be easier to leave, but to me it would be the same as abandoning a child just because there are behavior issues.
Pixie: I ranted in the pornography thread about censorship. I don't remember what if anything I said specifically about the veggies on the main boards and I have no idea how to do screenshots. ETA Thanks BabylonHoruv
At this point I really think I've said everything I can about why I do what I do. You are all welcome to whatever opinions you wish to hold.
Thanks, Charley Brown, for explaining rather than attacking.
you know what's a word that's almost always synonymous with "idealist"?
Fascist.
As for the "abandoning a child" analogy, in this instance the child in question has eaten your cat, burned down your house, impregnated your grandma, and voted for John Boehner. It's time to send the little turd to the orphanage.
:mittens:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2011, 08:26:57 PM
"abandoning a child"??????
I think I just shat myself out loud. A child is a small, humanoid bag of biological matter. TCC is a couple thousand lines of php code and a database full of patchouli and fairy sparkles.
If I had a child like that I'd stove the fucker's head in with a shovel :lulz:
Also :mittens:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 15, 2011, 08:26:57 PM
"abandoning a child"??????
I think I just shat myself out loud. A child is a small, humanoid bag of biological matter. TCC is a couple thousand lines of php code and a database full of patchouli and fairy sparkles.
If I had a child like that I'd stove the fucker's head in with a shovel :lulz:
:lulz:
You know what, I've been trying to come up with some justification to defend you on this Wyldkat (solely to piss Roger off) but I can't. they're 169% right. You cling to that place like an abused spouse, going on about he'll change if you just give him one more chance, and you need to end it. Either that or the whole thing about trying to change the place is a load of horseshit.
That wouldn't piss me off, Requia. It's what I would expect from you.
Well, I've explained it to WK as best as I could. She has continued to defend a indefensible position and to use incorrect metaphores to try to make sense out of the situation. While I won't attack her yet, i will call utter bullshit now on her remaining a mod there. She must be doing it because she believes in their rules, while enjoying the freedoms of posting here.
If I remember correctly I did vote for quid pro quo to cover her as well. I stand by that still.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 16, 2011, 03:32:36 PM
Well, I've explained it to WK as best as I could. She has continued to defend a indefensible position and to use incorrect metaphores to try to make sense out of the situation. While I won't attack her yet, i will call utter bullshit now on her remaining a mod there. She must be doing it because she believes in their rules, while enjoying the freedoms of posting here.
If I remember correctly I did vote for quid pro quo to cover her as well. I stand by that still.
Me, too, and I've never made any secret of it. However, I was personally involved in the bullshit, so I deferred to ECH, and he's made his decision...To wit, she stays, but that doesn't mean you can't dump on her, hard.
IIRC, I voted to let her in, for precisely this kind of treatment.
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 04:27:14 PM
IIRC, I voted to let her in, for precisely this kind of treatment.
And I'm fine with that. I try not to use the ban button if I'm personally involved.
Yeah. I just think quid quo pro is the less fun option, in this case. Much as if, say, Memnoch ever got the stones to sign up. Sometimes, its the little things in life, like people being in a place where they can't make everyone shut up and defer to their authority, that make for a good time.
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Yeah. I just think quid quo pro is the less fun option, in this case. Much as if, say, Memnoch ever got the stones to sign up. Sometimes, its the little things in life, like people being in a place where they can't make everyone shut up and defer to their authority, that make for a good time.
Sure, but EBS and Alchemist were made far more miserable by their bannination. I agree with WK staying, at least on a misanthropic level...On principle, I'd rather she was banned.
But as long as she continues to whimper about how she has to stay there because it's as important to her as her children, I'm okay with things.
:lulz:
Oh yeah, it's definitely a case-by-case thing. And in this case, this was absolutely the right choice. :lulz:
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Yeah. I just think quid quo pro is the less fun option, in this case. Much as if, say, Memnoch ever got the stones to sign up. Sometimes, its the little things in life, like people being in a place where they can't make everyone shut up and defer to their authority, that make for a good time.
Yes, I can think of several people who would be fun like that.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 16, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Yeah. I just think quid quo pro is the less fun option, in this case. Much as if, say, Memnoch ever got the stones to sign up. Sometimes, its the little things in life, like people being in a place where they can't make everyone shut up and defer to their authority, that make for a good time.
Yes, I can think of several people who would be fun like that.
Memnoch cannot argue without the ban button on his side, for the same reason he peed the bed to get out of basic training.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 16, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Yeah. I just think quid quo pro is the less fun option, in this case. Much as if, say, Memnoch ever got the stones to sign up. Sometimes, its the little things in life, like people being in a place where they can't make everyone shut up and defer to their authority, that make for a good time.
Yes, I can think of several people who would be fun like that.
Memnoch cannot argue without the ban button on his side, for the same reason he peed the bed to get out of basic training.
I agree, he would blow up and storm off, which would be great fun in itself.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 16, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Yeah. I just think quid quo pro is the less fun option, in this case. Much as if, say, Memnoch ever got the stones to sign up. Sometimes, its the little things in life, like people being in a place where they can't make everyone shut up and defer to their authority, that make for a good time.
Yes, I can think of several people who would be fun like that.
Memnoch cannot argue without the ban button on his side, for the same reason he peed the bed to get out of basic training.
SRSLY?!?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 16, 2011, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 16, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Yeah. I just think quid quo pro is the less fun option, in this case. Much as if, say, Memnoch ever got the stones to sign up. Sometimes, its the little things in life, like people being in a place where they can't make everyone shut up and defer to their authority, that make for a good time.
Yes, I can think of several people who would be fun like that.
Memnoch cannot argue without the ban button on his side, for the same reason he peed the bed to get out of basic training.
SRSLY?!?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Yep. He was ELS'd for "failure to adapt", early in his first year of service.
That translates out to - in a training environment - pissing the bed.
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Yeah. I just think quid quo pro is the less fun option, in this case. Much as if, say, Memnoch ever got the stones to sign up. Sometimes, its the little things in life, like people being in a place where they can't make everyone shut up and defer to their authority, that make for a good time.
Yes, this!
Someone should send Memnoch a link to this page of this thread, to see if he could be lured into coming and trying to defend himself.
Not that he would... I doubt he has the courage to post anywhere he can't hide behind "authoritay".
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 04:44:17 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 16, 2011, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 16, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Yeah. I just think quid quo pro is the less fun option, in this case. Much as if, say, Memnoch ever got the stones to sign up. Sometimes, its the little things in life, like people being in a place where they can't make everyone shut up and defer to their authority, that make for a good time.
Yes, I can think of several people who would be fun like that.
Memnoch cannot argue without the ban button on his side, for the same reason he peed the bed to get out of basic training.
SRSLY?!?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Yep. He was ELS'd for "failure to adapt", early in his first year of service.
That translates out to - in a training environment - pissing the bed.
And/or not bathing, being dirty, masturbating in public. But knowing Mem it was probably just pissing the bed as anything else would take balls to do. "I want out of basic it's tooooooo hard." FAP FAP FAP FAP "GTFO MY ARMY NAO!!!!!!"
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 16, 2011, 04:50:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 04:44:17 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 16, 2011, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 16, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Yeah. I just think quid quo pro is the less fun option, in this case. Much as if, say, Memnoch ever got the stones to sign up. Sometimes, its the little things in life, like people being in a place where they can't make everyone shut up and defer to their authority, that make for a good time.
Yes, I can think of several people who would be fun like that.
Memnoch cannot argue without the ban button on his side, for the same reason he peed the bed to get out of basic training.
SRSLY?!?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Yep. He was ELS'd for "failure to adapt", early in his first year of service.
That translates out to - in a training environment - pissing the bed.
And/or not bathing, being dirty, masturbating in public. But knowing Mem it was probably just pissing the bed as anything else would take balls to do. "I want out of basic it's tooooooo hard." FAP FAP FAP FAP "GTFO MY ARMY NAO!!!!!!"
:vom: :vom: :vom:
Quote from: *GrumpButt* on May 16, 2011, 05:57:03 PM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 16, 2011, 04:50:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 04:44:17 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 16, 2011, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 16, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Yeah. I just think quid quo pro is the less fun option, in this case. Much as if, say, Memnoch ever got the stones to sign up. Sometimes, its the little things in life, like people being in a place where they can't make everyone shut up and defer to their authority, that make for a good time.
Yes, I can think of several people who would be fun like that.
Memnoch cannot argue without the ban button on his side, for the same reason he peed the bed to get out of basic training.
SRSLY?!?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Yep. He was ELS'd for "failure to adapt", early in his first year of service.
That translates out to - in a training environment - pissing the bed.
And/or not bathing, being dirty, masturbating in public. But knowing Mem it was probably just pissing the bed as anything else would take balls to do. "I want out of basic it's tooooooo hard." FAP FAP FAP FAP "GTFO MY ARMY NAO!!!!!!"
:vom: :vom: :vom:
Kids who can't hack it in basic will do things to get out.
Sad fact is if you can't hack in the Army, you should probably toss yourself into traffic. The Real World(tm) is in many ways harder than the Army.
He was stationed in Lake Tahoe. :lulz:
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 16, 2011, 07:31:56 PM
He was stationed in Lake Tahoe. :lulz:
Oddly enough, I cannot find any reference to any military facilities near Lake Tahoe.
Closest thing is US Coastguard.
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 07:36:55 PM
Closest thing is US Coastguard.
Fatass was in the army. Kind of.
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 16, 2011, 07:31:56 PM
He was stationed in Lake Tahoe. :lulz:
That sounds like HE WAS LYING.
Maybe it was a Top Secret Fallacy?
:rimshot:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 07:36:55 PM
Closest thing is US Coastguard.
Fatass was in the army. Kind of.
Well, the coastguard and army look similar. From a distance.
A really,
really far distance.
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 09:45:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 07:36:55 PM
Closest thing is US Coastguard.
Fatass was in the army. Kind of.
Well, the coastguard and army look similar. From a distance.
A really, really far distance.
Especially if you ignore the whole land water thing....
Quote from: Khara on May 16, 2011, 10:19:21 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 09:45:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2011, 07:36:55 PM
Closest thing is US Coastguard.
Fatass was in the army. Kind of.
Well, the coastguard and army look similar. From a distance.
A really, really far distance.
Especially if you ignore the whole land water thing....
What about the Rocky Mountain Navy? Some of the best muff divers in the country are stationed there.
Can't remember offhand if I posted this in MW's poetry thread or not.
"Memnoch's a mystical wick,
with an acorn instead of a dick,
his poor little dong,
is but half an inch long,
and only a quarter inch thick.
Memnoch can often be found,
on the shakiest moral high ground,
spouting fatuous guff,
about ethics and stuff,
but his viewpoint is sick and unsound
Mystikwick's moral crusader,
(an educational 5th grader)
the mighty,Memnoch,
having sex with a sock,
in a cellar, dressed up as Darth Vader"
Worth a ban really, to post it again anyway. Except that I'd miss the card games in the Arcade. (All I've signed in for in the last 5 months)
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2011, 10:21:54 PM
Can't remember offhand if I posted this in MW's poetry thread or not.
"Memnoch's a mystical wick,
with an acorn instead of a dick,
his poor little dong,
is but half an inch long,
and only a quarter inch thick.
Memnoch can often be found,
on the shakiest moral high ground,
spouting fatuous guff,
about ethics and stuff,
but his viewpoint is sick and unsound
Mystikwick's moral crusader,
(an educational 5th grader)
the mighty,Memnoch,
having sex with a sock,
in a cellar, dressed up as Darth Vader"
Worth a ban really, to post it again anyway. Except that I'd miss the card games in the Arcade. (All I've signed in for in the last 5 months)
Set up a proxied throw away account and post it.
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 16, 2011, 10:27:56 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2011, 10:21:54 PM
Can't remember offhand if I posted this in MW's poetry thread or not.
"Memnoch's a mystical wick,
with an acorn instead of a dick,
his poor little dong,
is but half an inch long,
and only a quarter inch thick.
Memnoch can often be found,
on the shakiest moral high ground,
spouting fatuous guff,
about ethics and stuff,
but his viewpoint is sick and unsound
Mystikwick's moral crusader,
(an educational 5th grader)
the mighty,Memnoch,
having sex with a sock,
in a cellar, dressed up as Darth Vader"
Worth a ban really, to post it again anyway. Except that I'd miss the card games in the Arcade. (All I've signed in for in the last 5 months)
Set up a proxied throw away account and post it.
I'll have to re-read my "How to proxy" thing again, so I'll do it when I get a minute. Probably tonight. See how long it takes before it's wiped. I did one for someone else there too, got a temp ban for that.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2011, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 16, 2011, 07:31:56 PM
He was stationed in Lake Tahoe. :lulz:
Oddly enough, I cannot find any reference to any military facilities near Lake Tahoe.
Oh shit. :oops:
I meant it like he was in a puddlle of piss a good part of the time.
QuoteAnother interesting question then for those who have served is do you want to readjust to the civilian world? I only served a year, and have been out for over 11 years, and it wasn't until a few years ago when I was comfortable adjusting to certain aspects of the civilian world. In other words I didn't WANT to change many of the aspects I developed in the military. I can only imagine how much more intense it would have been if I had been in for a full term, or even a career.
Mem
nnnnn://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?250568-Blackwater-Forms-Mercenery-Army-for-United-Arab-Emirates
I lol'd
opps forgot to broken
Quote from: *GrumpButt* on May 16, 2011, 11:49:21 PM
QuoteAnother interesting question then for those who have served is do you want to readjust to the civilian world? I only served a year, and have been out for over 11 years, and it wasn't until a few years ago when I was comfortable adjusting to certain aspects of the civilian world. In other words I didn't WANT to change many of the aspects I developed in the military. I can only imagine how much more intense it would have been if I had been in for a full term, or even a career.
Mem
http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?250568-Blackwater-Forms-Mercenery-Army-for-United-Arab-Emirates
I lol'd
There aren't enough facepalms to cover that.
QuoteMem, Izzay, Everyone else that has served.
Where did you spend your training time/posts at?
I know nothing about military and am curious.
Me, same thread. Just want to see what he says.
Quote from: *GrumpButt* on May 16, 2011, 11:51:53 PM
QuoteMem, Izzay, Everyone else that has served.
Where did you spend your training time/posts at?
I know nothing about military and am curious.
Me, same thread. Just want to see what he says.
See my post in that thread. :lulz:
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 17, 2011, 01:40:05 AM
Quote from: *GrumpButt* on May 16, 2011, 11:51:53 PM
QuoteMem, Izzay, Everyone else that has served.
Where did you spend your training time/posts at?
I know nothing about military and am curious.
Me, same thread. Just want to see what he says.
See my post in that thread. :lulz:
:lulz:
Let's see if he replies to that, or skips over.
Quote from: *GrumpButt* on May 17, 2011, 02:22:19 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 17, 2011, 01:40:05 AM
Quote from: *GrumpButt* on May 16, 2011, 11:51:53 PM
QuoteMem, Izzay, Everyone else that has served.
Where did you spend your training time/posts at?
I know nothing about military and am curious.
Me, same thread. Just want to see what he says.
He usually ignores my posts, especially when I state things that could possibly make him look like shit.
See my post in that thread. :lulz:
:lulz:
Let's see if he replies to that, or skips over.
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2011, 10:39:58 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 16, 2011, 10:27:56 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2011, 10:21:54 PM
Can't remember offhand if I posted this in MW's poetry thread or not.
"Memnoch's a mystical wick,
with an acorn instead of a dick,
his poor little dong,
is but half an inch long,
and only a quarter inch thick.
Memnoch can often be found,
on the shakiest moral high ground,
spouting fatuous guff,
about ethics and stuff,
but his viewpoint is sick and unsound
Mystikwick's moral crusader,
(an educational 5th grader)
the mighty,Memnoch,
having sex with a sock,
in a cellar, dressed up as Darth Vader"
Worth a ban really, to post it again anyway. Except that I'd miss the card games in the Arcade. (All I've signed in for in the last 5 months)
Set up a proxied throw away account and post it.
I'll have to re-read my "How to proxy" thing again, so I'll do it when I get a minute. Probably tonight. See how long it takes before it's wiped. I did one for someone else there too, got a temp ban for that.
Awaiting activation
Quote from: *GrumpButt* on May 16, 2011, 11:49:21 PM
QuoteAnother interesting question then for those who have served is do you want to readjust to the civilian world? I only served a year, and have been out for over 11 years, and it wasn't until a few years ago when I was comfortable adjusting to certain aspects of the civilian world. In other words I didn't WANT to change many of the aspects I developed in the military. I can only imagine how much more intense it would have been if I had been in for a full term, or even a career.
Mem
nnnnn://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?250568-Blackwater-Forms-Mercenery-Army-for-United-Arab-Emirates
I lol'd
opps forgot to broken
LAIL.
In the UK, the least you can sign up for (I think) is 4 years. They usually spend at least a year training you up to any level of usefulness. I suspect he's talking about The Salvation Army.
Not sure about the lower ranks, but you can sign up to be an officer for five years (after a year of training).
I suspect these are the guys who are offloaded in Helmand Province, going by our performance there.