Back when I was a kid, which was a long time ago indeed, stuff that was cool was cool. It was cool to like stuff that was cool, and of course everybody thought the stuff they liked was cool. "Cool shirt, dude!" was not a condemnation, but an accolade. Nobody was embarrassed to admit that they were into something because they thought it was cool; a cool band, a cool car, a cool chick. Maybe, if you were a nerd, a cool computer or a cool calculator... computers and calculators were REALLY cool back then, because they were now, and damn if they weren't hot rats.
Back then, the opposite of cool was lame. You think Depeche Mode is cool; your best friend thinks they're lame. You think the Police are cool, and maybe Elvis Costello is cool, and Violent Femmes are definitely cool, but REO Speedwagon is fuckin' lame. Heshers and rockers are lame; punk and New Wave is cool. Of course, the heshers and rockers think New Wave is lame and will beat your ass every chance they get, which in your opinion makes them lamer. Punks think everyone else is lame, and they beat up the heshers and rockers, but they leave New Wavers alone for some reason... probably because they know you think they're cool.
That band T-shirt is fucking cool, man, and that kid who got a T-shirt with a picture of himself on it is cool, and using a lunchbox as a purse is TOTALLY cool. It's cool to like these things because you think they're cool. You aren't sure if you're cool, but your friends are definitely cool. You would hang out with that one guy; yeah, he seems cool. Your best friend's little brother is pretty cool for a kid.
Somehow, though, cool isn't cool anymore. If you like something because you think it's cool, people will judge you and find you insincere, and probably therefore inauthentic. "You're only into them because you think they're cool" is an insult. People are afraid to look like they think something's cool, because they fear the labeling that comes along with it. You come across a Knight Rider T-shirt at Goodwill and at first your heart leaps... Knight Rider! That's so cool! But wait... if you buy it, people will think you're wearing it to be retro, because that's cool. Nope; must avoid the appearance of trying to be cool.
God fucking forbid anything or anyone be desired or admired because of being cool. EVERY FUCKING THING had better be "authentic", or YOU WILL BE JUDGED, AND FOUND WANTING.
Because in order for it to be cool, it has to be "deck", remember?
-Suu
Will find that motherfucker who started using "deck", and show him what "decking" is.
:lulz:
I was into cool before it was fashionable. My life has been dedicated to the pursuit of cool. I studied the greatest living icon of cool - Fonzie. Anyone wants to slag me off cos Fonzie isn't cool anymore? Witnesses will squeal something along the lines of, "COOL! That guy just tore that other dudes spine out through his asshole. 8)
For this subject i will return to my bestest point ever: That's what knifes are for.
srsly:
people being annoying? that's what knifes are for.
people not being annoying? that's what knifes are for.
i could go on, but i just covered every frustration ever.
I was wondering about this earlier in the week. Somewhere enthusiasm was replaced with apathy and whoever made that decision needs to be . . . knifed.
Cool is still cool.
And anyone who doesn't get carried away once in a while should be.
And authentic can kiss my ass.
Trufax. Or, I guess you guys say 'troof'.
I still say cool and lame. Is that not cool? :sad:
I also say awesome.
I still say rad, and dude.
I am not ashamed.
Also I am wearing a T-shirt that has a baby owl in a high chair wearing a bib, and fuck me if it isn't cool.
And somewhere, I have a T-shirt that says "PROUD TO BE AWESOME". Fuck it, I'm gonna go find it and wear it tonight. Because that is how cool I am.
AND THEN NIGEL KILLED EVERY HIPSTER IN PORTLAND. :x
I don't KILL hipsters. I AM hipsters.
ALL OF IT.
Quote from: Nigel on November 21, 2010, 02:33:05 AM
I don't KILL hipsters. I AM hipsters.
ALL OF IT.
Then you have to be filled with so much irony that nothing can ever, ever be cool again, because it's not authentic.
And then Lenny Bruce will come back from the dead and BECOME SHIVA, DESTROYER OF OREGON.
"Irony" and "Authenticity" are projections of the observer.
I will wear my "PROUD TO BE AWESOME" T-shirt and my comfy ratty blue hoodie, and my $5 Mossimo jeans off eBay, and my black Doc Martens, and I will go help Mr. Language finish moving and then I will go get a cheap bourbon at Biddy McGraws because that is where my friend's gospel band is playing, (which is a cool band now so young people who like cool things go to see them), with my pink bangs, and observers will see a hipster. That is all that matters; the hipster is actually created by the act of observation; by projecting motivations onto strangers, the hipster is created, but only exists during the time it is being observed.
Quote from: Nigel on November 21, 2010, 02:41:53 AM
"Irony" and "Authenticity" are projections of the observer.
I will wear my "PROUD TO BE AWESOME" T-shirt and my comfy ratty blue hoodie, and my $5 Mossimo jeans off eBay, and my black Doc Martens, and I will go help Mr. Language finish moving and then I will go get a cheap bourbon at Biddy McGraws because that is where my friend's gospel band is playing, (which is a cool band now so young people who like cool things go to see them), with my pink bangs, and observers will see a hipster. That is all that matters; the hipster is actually created by the act of observation; by projecting motivations onto strangers, the hipster is created, but only exists during the time it is being observed.
Quantum Hipsters?
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/IMG000152.jpg)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 21, 2010, 02:44:28 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 21, 2010, 02:41:53 AM
"Irony" and "Authenticity" are projections of the observer.
I will wear my "PROUD TO BE AWESOME" T-shirt and my comfy ratty blue hoodie, and my $5 Mossimo jeans off eBay, and my black Doc Martens, and I will go help Mr. Language finish moving and then I will go get a cheap bourbon at Biddy McGraws because that is where my friend's gospel band is playing, (which is a cool band now so young people who like cool things go to see them), with my pink bangs, and observers will see a hipster. That is all that matters; the hipster is actually created by the act of observation; by projecting motivations onto strangers, the hipster is created, but only exists during the time it is being observed.
Quantum Hipsters?
(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/IMG000152.jpg)
BINGO.
I am actually the God Hipster; the singular hipster which exists simultaneously at all points in time and space. I appear to be a different hipster to different observers, but I am brought into existence by the act of observation and cease to exist when I am not being observed.
My face is disturbingly elastic.
I also say dude (well everyone here still says it cuz it's california and I'm dangerously close to surferland). and also sick.
i say groovy and swell :lol:
I use as much California slang as I can get my hands on. I do it ironically. :wink:
In regards to OP, I dunno, I don't encounter that kind of intolerance for cool. Doesn't "cool" just mean "I like that"? Disgust for liking cool things makes not a shred of sense to me. I pity the fool who participates in it.
Death to authenticity!
Quote from: Epimetheus on November 21, 2010, 07:31:57 AM
I use as much California slang as I can get my hands on. I do it ironically. :wink:
In regards to OP, I dunno, I don't encounter that kind of intolerance for cool. Doesn't "cool" just mean "I like that"? Disgust for liking cool things makes not a shred of sense to me. I pity the fool who participates in it.
There is only one context where that anti-cool judgment comes up, actually.
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on November 20, 2010, 09:50:39 PM
I was into cool before it was fashionable. My life has been dedicated to the pursuit of cool. I studied the greatest living icon of cool - Fonzie. Anyone wants to slag me off cos Fonzie isn't cool anymore? Witnesses will squeal something along the lines of, "COOL! That guy just tore that other dudes spine out through his asshole. 8)
This. I watched Happy Days reruns on Nick at Night when I was 10 or so, and The Fonz has been my cool exemplar ever since. I once Fonzie'd a car whose electrical system was failing. One good knock to the dashboard flared it all back to life - and there were witnesses.
I should point out that I'm decidedly uncool though, and I'm completely alright with that.
LIZZAY IS VERY COOLL
JUST LOOK AT THAT SHIRT
As someone who was decidedly uncool as a kid and got beat p for it now and then I can't say i am too sad to see cool dying.
I want that shirt, Lizzie.
I don't think I've ever heard cool used here, its not really in the dialect, some of the local synonyms here I Like are:
Boss, Sound and Disco.
I've never heard "sound" or "disco". "Boss" is funny... I think it was popular in the States in the 50's, so it's maybe a sort of retro thing?
"Sound" is also used in Scotland occasionally, I dunno if it's used here in the sarf of England. I have heard people using "Fair" as in in "Fair Enough" without the enough here, but that may not be in anyway related. I find some of the locals ritual practices to be quite impenetrable at times.
I use "sound" and "cool" regularly, as if I have any kind of authority on what qualifies. I am more likely to say "Indubitably", or to declare "Indeed!" when someone uses their own authority to judge something cool.
I like indubitably, it's a great word.
I've noticed this as well, in my sisters particularly. We were shopping yesterday, and the middle one shied away from buying a pair of neat rainboots because they were cool and she didn't want to be a hipster. I told her that them being cool was a reason to buy them and fuck anyone who said otherwise.
"Cool" and "fuck/hell yeah, that's awesome" are the usual way of expressing appreciation amongst my friends.
Overheard another one in the shop tonight:
That's savage.
My gay, Irish, Jewish, Buddhist friend always used to tell me to "stay frosty".
That's an RWHN level pun, right there ("Nirvana/Nibahna" means 'a cooling process, a cool/tranquil state').
:lol: