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#1
Propaganda Depository / Re: Banning Nazis from PD
May 20, 2017, 03:29:00 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 18, 2017, 03:30:42 PM
Interesting example from NPR yesterday.  It talked about government housing policies of segregation and redlining, going back at least 80 years, and the knock-on effects of such policies -- Basically, because of the policies of the past, minorities in the present are structurally disadvantaged on an economic an geographic way, from birth.

So with that in mind, what does "equality" mean?  To start at a "point zero" and treat all people 'the same' means you're starting out with a structural inequality that's already been built in.  Changing the rules now and ignoring the past doesn't mitigate or level the playing field.
Forcing segregation and forcing integration are both messy. Lots of people would segregate naturally if we just let them. Forcing diversity just for the sake of diversity is weird.

I guess my sense of treating people equally is a zeroing-out, yeah. I get what you're saying too - White people shouldn't have an equal opportunity to play as a team because the playing field is currently unequal. Exploring why the playing field is unequal and how it's unequal is where we run into problems though because you can look at that so many different ways.

If White people are collectively responsible for the damage they've caused to other groups, are they also collectively responsible for their contributions? Will there ever be enough reparations? If slaves from Africa were never brought to America, wouldn't lots of them still be slaves? Etc etc...

I don't think we could ever agree on how much White people owe. For some people it won't ever be enough but an increasing number of White people feel like it's over and are starting to think about the future. I don't think my grandchildren should be forced to be an atomized minority amongst other potentially hostile tribes because slavery and stuff.

Quote from: Cramulus on May 18, 2017, 03:21:28 PM
What metric would you propose to measure equality?
Exactly.

I don't know but if a certain group, like Blacks, are over represented in a certain field, like basketball, I wouldn't think it's because Jews and Chinese were treated unequally. Different races naturally excel at different things. Chinese people obviously shouldn't be discriminated against by the NBA but we shouldn't force them to have equal results. So, just looking at outcomes alone would be a bad metric to determine who's been treated equally.
#2
Propaganda Depository / Re: Banning Nazis from PD
May 18, 2017, 02:36:20 PM
If we want to create a world where race doesn't matter and no one has to suffer more just because the color of their skin, that has to include White people.

For everyone to be treated equally, everyone has to be treated equally.

White people should be free to advocate their interests like everyone else.

Only punching White people for doing what every other race does unfairly causes them to suffer more just because the color of their skin.

You are NOT fighting for a world where race doesn't matter. If race didn't matter to you, you wouldn't hold White people to a completely different standard. You are fighting for a world where White people are discriminated against.

Associating every pro-White sentiment with hate and violence, to instantly censor it, is what leads to the more extreme manifestations.

Is stopping the evil Nazis from living in a separate community something you would die for? You'd die before actually treating everyone equally and letting White people form communities based on their shared identities too? You'd die just to make sure White people suffer more just because the color of their skin?
#3
Propaganda Depository / Re: Banning Nazis from PD
May 15, 2017, 05:45:10 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 15, 2017, 01:05:53 AM
There's a pretty strong correlation, yes.
Hence White supremacy being normal now :lulz:

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2017, 05:02:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2017, 04:57:04 AM
Quote from: Supreme Dingus on May 14, 2017, 11:49:15 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 14, 2017, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: Supreme Dingus on May 14, 2017, 12:22:16 AM
Oh I'm just a White tribalist. I denounce violence and hatred.

You know...like a moderate Muslim.
White tribalism just means you have found a support group of other racists, its not an ethos, and becomes less relevant now that the biggest threat to your livelyhood is a fragile white simpleton in a bad toupee with too much power.

The moderate muslim comment is sad, it clings to the few terror attacks of the last few years, and pretends there arent 2 billion muslims in the world who are sickened by violence. If you are going to jump through hoops to find reasons to hate muslims, do it better.
Right? It's like I'm assuming normal Muslims are extremists.

Everyone engaged in White identity politics is a racist White supremacist though.

Are you going to start blubbering about white genocide?

Please say yes.  Please say yes.
White genocide is real! Jews killed millions of White people and turned them into lampshades and soap!
#4
Propaganda Depository / Re: Banning Nazis from PD
May 14, 2017, 11:49:15 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 14, 2017, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: Supreme Dingus on May 14, 2017, 12:22:16 AM
Oh I'm just a White tribalist. I denounce violence and hatred.

You know...like a moderate Muslim.
White tribalism just means you have found a support group of other racists, its not an ethos, and becomes less relevant now that the biggest threat to your livelyhood is a fragile white simpleton in a bad toupee with too much power.

The moderate muslim comment is sad, it clings to the few terror attacks of the last few years, and pretends there arent 2 billion muslims in the world who are sickened by violence. If you are going to jump through hoops to find reasons to hate muslims, do it better.
Right? It's like I'm assuming normal Muslims are extremists.

Everyone engaged in White identity politics is a racist White supremacist though.
#5
Propaganda Depository / Re: Sympathy and Nazis
May 14, 2017, 12:22:16 AM
Oh I'm just a White tribalist. I denounce violence and hatred.

You know...like a moderate Muslim.
#6
Propaganda Depository / Re: Sympathy and Nazis
May 13, 2017, 09:43:37 PM
"We're passing the point of intellectual curiosity and abstract philosophy. We're close to something like another world war, but instead of nations ideas fighting, it will be ideas identities. It's up to each and every one of us to decide which ideas identities are worth fighting for, maybe dying for."

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 13, 2017, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 13, 2017, 06:50:04 PM
Well this completes our quota of dumb for the month then. Any extra is just a bonus.

It's early in the month.  We'll get at least one more.

Krishna dude, this spag, and at least one more.

Hi.