So a friend of mine just told me about this "awesome steampunk band" called Abney Park.
They.
Are.
Shit.
NEWSFLASH: Synthesizer and Electric Guitar are very "NOT STEAMPUNK", your singer sucks, and your pretend steampunk clothes FAIL. JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE PRETENDING TO BE FROM VICTORIAN ENGLAND DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN WEAR HORRIBLE OUTFITS. IT'S ABOUT STYLE PEOPLE, NOT LOLOL I GOT THIS FROM A PICTURE IN A MAGAZINE AND MIKSED IT WITH LIEK A TOP HAT AND GLASSES LOLOL.
Nobody would listen to your shitty music if you didn't go out of your way to ostentatiously label yourselves as "Steampunk."
Quote from: AsshatsWe rehearse deep in the Belly of the HMS Ophelia, in our Post Apocalypse Studio. Its a Steampunk thing, you wouldn't understand...or would you?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-WrPWFn7e2c NOW STOP IT. Or at
least hire someone who can fucking sing!
Oh and COMMA FUCKING SPLICE.
Now steampunk is RUINTE for me forever. I always liked the idea, the, I don't know,
primal urge to invent and explore that's at the essence (I always thought) of steampunk.
But now it's just a bunch of fucking idiots dressed up in what they think is fancy weird clothing that looks like they went to a thrift store, pulled out everything they could find that didn't match and looked kind of old, put it all on with some goggles and a motherfucking KEYRING, and called it "steampunk."
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/photo/2008/05/07/0508-PUNK/23011199.JPG)(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/07/style/23011141.JPG)(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/07/style/23011173.JPG)
NO. Just, NO.
Thanks to you assholes, steampunk is now the new LARP. It's filled (for the most part) with social rejects who think that being a vampire--or in this case, somebody from the 1800s where, by the way, you would have been shot, murdered, and raped for having such horrible fashion sense and for being some kind of horrible fucking society-spurning jack-ass--makes them COOL.
Guess what.
IT DOESN'T.
Links for the suicidally curious:
http://abneypark.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/fashion/08PUNK.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
We had a steampunk fucker from Toronto on here close to a year ago.
He was more ... something ... than these twits.
Quote from: Hoopla on May 15, 2008, 04:53:09 AM
We had a steampunk fucker from Toronto on here close to a year ago.
Oh, Jebus. :lulz:
Still, goggles are cool.
IF YOU'RE OPERATING A CUTTING TORCH.
Quote from: Hoopla on May 15, 2008, 04:53:09 AM
He was more ... something ... than these twits.
Brain damaged?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 04:54:37 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 15, 2008, 04:53:09 AM
He was more ... something ... than these twits.
Brain damaged?
More brain damaged?
I don't think they'd have let him out of the fucking home.
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 04:55:36 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 04:54:37 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 15, 2008, 04:53:09 AM
He was more ... something ... than these twits.
Brain damaged?
More brain damaged?
I don't think they'd have let him out of the fucking home.
Oh, shit.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=13916.msg445326#msg445326
And you should have seen his "chain dance".
:x :x :x :x :x
Quote from: LMNO on September 25, 2007, 03:10:21 PM
I All of the above (including the ags mask) are previous innovations first worn by rivetheads, industrial goths, ravers, and bike messengers.
:lulz:
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 05:40:23 AM
:x :x :x :x :x
No, really. His "chain dance" was EPIC.
my first thought was "wait... these are just goth kids... wearing colors"
goggles=still cool
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 05:48:06 AM
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 05:40:23 AM
:x :x :x :x :x
No, really. His "chain dance" was EPIC.
I'm going to take your word for it because I looked at that thread and cried inside, and died inside.
Yeah, steampunk is the new emo.
Or will be, given three years and some quasi-mainstream exposure with bands like the above.
The question, as always, is how to profit from it now.
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 05:57:06 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 05:48:06 AM
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 05:40:23 AM
:x :x :x :x :x
No, really. His "chain dance" was EPIC.
I'm going to take your word for it because I looked at that thread and cried inside, and died inside.
It's on YouTube somewhere... I try to find that little fuck every time I go to Kensington Market, but alas, he is always chain dancing somewhere else...
Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2008, 11:57:55 AM
Yeah, steampunk is the new emo.
Or will be, given three years and some quasi-mainstream exposure with bands like the above.
The question, as always, is how to profit from it now.
Invest now in Wild Wild West II?
Quote from: Squid on May 15, 2008, 05:55:32 AM
my first thought was "wait... these are just goth kids... wearing colors"
goggles=still cool
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 04:54:12 AM
Oh, Jebus. :lulz:
Still, goggles are cool.
IF YOU'RE OPERATING A CUTTING TORCH.
:lulz:
Also: I want to piss Earl Grey on these people.
Sad part is if I'm weaing a top hat they may be into it.
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 04:45:16 AM
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/photo/2008/05/07/0508-PUNK/23011199.JPG)(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/07/style/23011141.JPG)(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/07/style/23011173.JPG)
NO. Just, NO.
I actually am building some steampunk stuff... for LARP. Steampunk + Cthulhu what could go wrong?
The tenuous grip on your sanity?
Abney Park should team up with AKlokwerkKaos and do a statewide Karaoke-club tour. Seems like they are each others' speed.
I would really like to see steampunk take off, I find it far more elegant then emo goth etc.
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/08/fashion/steam_600.jpg)
plus when black people do it it looks awesome.
I would like to be able to wear a zoot suit and spats in public more often and I think this would increase my oppertunities to.
will post some of the cool pictures tonight... and the really REALLY bad ones.
also Kianne was not a steampunk, he was more tank girl then anything else he got the wrong word. and its not fair to rip into him a year after he left. He asked me if he ever came up in conversation again, to tell you all he is sorry, he knew he acted like an ass and he has actually learned from his mistake.
1. Faust is right. Kaienne wasn't what I would call a steampunk.
2. I don't have time to listen to the music. If anyone could tell me, what classifies a music as Steampunk, which is a fashion?
If I were doing it, it would involve Rube Goldberg-type effects, like distortion via a series of torn speaker cones, exposed spring reverbs, and hand-crank-powered electronic equipment (or even better, steam powered!)
The music itself would be bastardized adoptions of secular Victorian-era songs. Or Rasputina.
I'm confused, OP. Is your complaint with steampunk or people that are doing it wrong?
I dig it, even done poorly. If there are people out there that want to feel like they're from a grander, crazier, more nonexistant period of history, more power to em
even if they fuck it up
world needs less abercrombie clones
moar crazy
True.
Why is this in "Or Kill Me" though?
Because the OP is saying, "Do yuor Steampunk properly, Or Kill Me."
And I too dig Steampunk, for two reasons: I look awesome in that kind of outfit (even if it's just regular Victorian), and I see too many of my friends wearing Hollister.
HOLLISTER! :argh!:
Is it just me, or does the bloke in the red jacket look like Hugh?
Quote from: Faust on May 15, 2008, 02:39:53 PM
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/08/fashion/steam_600.jpg)
plus when black people do it it looks awesome.
Yeah, that's what I thought, too, at first.
BUT THEN I SAW THAT BALD MOTHERFUCKER WEARING A TOP HAT WITH MOTHERFUCKING BLUEJEANS.
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/07/style/23100879.JPG)
NO you asshole. NO.
Steampunk taking off is all good, but the problem is that then jack-asses like the people in those pictures in the first thread get involved.
Quote from: LMNO on May 15, 2008, 03:22:28 PM
2. I don't have time to listen to the music. If anyone could tell me, what classifies a music as Steampunk, which is a fashion?
If I were doing it, it would involve Rube Goldberg-type effects, like distortion via a series of torn speaker cones, exposed spring reverbs, and hand-crank-powered electronic equipment (or even better, steam powered!)
The music itself would be bastardized adoptions of secular Victorian-era songs. Or Rasputina.
Basically in the case of "Abney Park" what classifies them as Steampunk is that they go out of their way to tell people that's what they are.
A neat band/artist who doesn't actively classify himself as steampunk is Dr. Steel. But he sounds very steampunk-esque.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0YT_J5HRsIY
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 15, 2008, 05:21:36 PM
I'm confused, OP. Is your complaint with steampunk or people that are doing it wrong?
I dig it, even done poorly. If there are people out there that want to feel like they're from a grander, crazier, more nonexistant period of history, more power to em
even if they fuck it up
world needs less abercrombie clones
moar crazy
Really the thing that got me so annoyed was those Abney Park jack-asses, though I didn't talk about them much. They just piss me off because they're one of those "jump on the bandwagon to sell our shitty music" bands. The bad LARPers are just typical social reject shenanigans, which I should really be used to by now.
newsflash: Just because nobody in society likes you does not mean you can go around claiming you are "better" than them for not taking part in their society. I used to work in a game store (board games et al.) and would sometimes hear people talking about "Gamers are so much smarter than normal people." This was especially laughable coming from some of these people, with their "I've been living in my parents basement since I was 18 and now I'm 36 and work as a grocery stocker" backgrounds.
Really I was just in a grouchy mood and Steampunk horrormirth exposed its ugly head.
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 06:21:03 PM
newsflash: Just because nobody in society likes you does not mean you can go around claiming you are "better" than them for not taking part in their society.
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt, disagree!
These are the Strange Times
better get used to wacky shit, regardless of quality
People assemble their identiy from the shrapnel that's all around them
if most of that shrapnel is crap, they're not going to have a good eye for quality
but for every 10 of those spags that are doing it wrong
there's at least one Dr. Steel, so I think it kind of balances out
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb221/noautozoom/DRSTEEL.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/faithlessalice/dr_steel2.jpg)
(http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/36150092_l_1.jpg)
Holy shit... that guy's real?
Sauce, plz.
http://www.worlddominationtoys.com/drsteel/
Dr. Steel has more style in his goggles than most people do in their entire wardrobe.
Wasn't he felix's avvie for a while?
I thought he looked familiar. He's got some nice looking cronies too.
"Dr. Steel II:
Eclectic Boogaloo"
Oh dear god no! Now I'm having flashbacks to Breakin' 2, where that electric shrimp dancing bastard walked on the ceiling because he was in love with some hispanic chick who didn't talk no ingles.
That movie was so awful, but at the same time I couldn't stop watching it.
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 02:20:51 PM
I actually am building some steampunk stuff... for LARP.
:joshua:
long as you're doing it right.
MOAR GEARS.
MOAR STEAMPUNK.
Imagine you've just met a cute young thing at the bar, take her home, and as you're both getting down to business, she reveals this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/clothing_girls_thong_logo.jpg)
WOOT!
Quote from: LMNO on May 15, 2008, 08:26:57 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/clothing_girls_thong_logo.jpg)
:mittens:
I wonder if my Fiancée would think me strange(r than she already does) if I ordered a pair.
...
FOR MYSELF.
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 07:59:04 PM
long as you're doing it right.
MOAR GEARS.
MOAR STEAMPUNK.
Oh yes, moar gears, moar steampunk...
The basic story takes place in "Steampunk tiem" where a young and brash inventor is creating all sorts of cool AI.
Of course, he's really harvesting the spark of life from animals, humans etc and sticking them in his "AI" creations... but there's nothing wrong with that...
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 08:33:35 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 07:42:45 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 02:20:51 PM
I actually am building some steampunk stuff... for LARP.
:joshua:
You got a problem with that, punk?
:lulz:
Yeah.
LARP.
:lulz:
Ah, I thought perhaps you were gonna say something interesting...
:fnord:
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 08:35:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 08:33:35 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 07:42:45 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 02:20:51 PM
I actually am building some steampunk stuff... for LARP.
:joshua:
You got a problem with that, punk?
:lulz:
Yeah.
LARP.
:lulz:
Ah, I thought perhaps you were gonna say something interesting...
:fnord:
Nope. LARP is so full of fucking fail that saying anything interesting or witty in mockery of it is pretty much redundant.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 08:35:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 08:33:35 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 07:42:45 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 02:20:51 PM
I actually am building some steampunk stuff... for LARP.
:joshua:
You got a problem with that, punk?
:lulz:
Yeah.
LARP.
:lulz:
Ah, I thought perhaps you were gonna say something interesting...
:fnord:
Nope. LARP is so full of fucking fail that saying anything interesting or witty in mockery of it is pretty much redundant.
Sorry, I couldn't hear you, try not to mumble the next time you talk out your ass... m;kay?
:lulz:
What exactly does larp mean?
BVH
-ignant
Quote from: Hoopla on May 15, 2008, 09:01:53 PM
What exactly does larp mean?
BVH
-ignant
Live Action Role Playing, I believe.
Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2008, 09:03:10 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 15, 2008, 09:01:53 PM
What exactly does larp mean?
BVH
-ignant
Live Action Role Playing, I believe.
Yep and it covers a wide array of gaming systems, from the guys that throw bean bags and yell "Fireball" to the goths that dress in black and "Rock Paper Scissor" each other like horny vampires... to giant Elder God props for Cthulhu.
Mostly our local group plays Cthulhu, sometimes Vampire... never the bean bag bit.
To be fair, it's not LARP that's the problem.
It's 90% of the people that LARP that are the problem.
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 09:16:12 PM
To be fair, it's not LARP that's the problem.
It's 90% of the people that LARP that are the problem.
TROOF, our group has often been called elitist because we only let vetted people play... and the usual ST's put up with very little bullshit before they eject people from the game.
In Cthulhu games I've actually scared the crap out of people... its like an interactive Haunted House sort of thing.
My wife and I play Amish.
Me: "Honey, ready to churn the butter?"
Wife: "Have you raised the barn?"
It's a hoot, I tell you!
I was on a Greyhound with some Amish people once.
Did their horse have a flat?
Well see, that's their treble right there. Their lucky they didn't fall off a clef.
Quote from: Rev. Whats His Name? on May 15, 2008, 09:36:34 PM
Well see, that's their treble right there. Their lucky they didn't fall off a clef.
I note the bad puns have reached a crescendo
I tried LARPing once. OWBN or something.
The trouble was that everyone was role-playing elitist snobs. Also much smoking (I thought vampires didn't breath... ?) so they were role-playing smelly elitist snobs.
PS: A veritable Bach-anal of puns.
That's why you need the garlic.
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on May 15, 2008, 09:46:02 PM
I tried LARPing once. OWBN or something.
The trouble was that everyone was role-playing elitist snobs. Also much smoking (I thought vampires didn't breath... ?) so they were role-playing smelling elitist snobs.
Yeah, OWBN is sort of the mainstream "we'll accept anyone" kind of LARP that I dislike in the extreme. Not everyone can act, or even role play. *gag*
Now, my Cthulhu stories... well, anyone can scream in sanity draining horror as a 12' tall monster lumbers toward them swinging 10' long tentacles... and their flashlight goes dead.
Hehehe, I love handing players rigged flashlights.
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 09:16:12 PM
To be fair, it's not LARP that's the problem.
It's 90% of the people that LARP that are the problem.
No, it's LARP.
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 09:00:25 PM
Sorry, I couldn't hear you, try not to mumble the next time you talk out your ass... m;kay?
:lulz:
YEAH!
\
(http://www.anthromaker.de/catcoon/larp/Kchierath_zq44.jpg)
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on May 15, 2008, 09:46:02 PM
I thought vampires didn't breath... ?
You have to burn a blood for it lolololololol. Also I seem to remember many LARPers talking about burning a blood point so their character (note: not them) could have sex.
(I did WoD [Vampire, etc] LARP when I was in high school, but I was young and stupid then. Don't hold it against me. )
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 10:02:11 PM
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 09:16:12 PM
To be fair, it's not LARP that's the problem.
It's 90% of the people that LARP that are the problem.
No, it's LARP.
Nah, its just you.
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 10:02:11 PM
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 09:16:12 PM
To be fair, it's not LARP that's the problem.
It's 90% of the people that LARP that are the problem.
No, it's LARP.
Nah, its just you.
Nope.
(http://cheeheese.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/larp.jpg)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 10:18:27 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 10:02:11 PM
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 09:16:12 PM
To be fair, it's not LARP that's the problem.
It's 90% of the people that LARP that are the problem.
No, it's LARP.
Nah, its just you.
Nope.
Yep. Sorry, man... its all in your head among the echos and cobwebs and not much company.
whatever, Rog. :lulz:
The socially maladjusted basement-cases are the poster kids of LARP. They get all the press, but in my experience only make up like 20% of the population. Never mind that most of the players at LARPs make fun of them too.
For about six months of my life, I made about $15 an hour to (among other things) drive around the country and yell at people who were running their LARPs poorly. And sometimes kill their characters. Say what you will, but that's fucking awesome.
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 15, 2008, 10:34:21 PM
whatever, Rog. :lulz:
The socially maladjusted basement-cases are the poster kids of LARP. They get all the press, but in my experience only make up like 20% of the population. Never mind that most of the players at LARPs make fun of them too.
For about six months of my life, I made about $15 an hour to (among other things) drive around the country and yell at people who were running their LARPs poorly. And sometimes kill their characters. Say what you will, but that's fucking awesome.
Oh, I fully support making money off of these sorts of people.
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 10:21:52 PM
Yep. Sorry, man... its all in your head among the echos and cobwebs and not much company.
Oh, there's plenty of stuff in my head, Ratatosk. Most of it involves midgets and monkeys on unicycles, but there's plenty.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 10:21:52 PM
Yep. Sorry, man... its all in your head among the echos and cobwebs and not much company.
Oh, there's plenty of stuff in my head, Ratatosk. Most of it involves midgets and monkeys on unicycles, but there's plenty.
How did you get the midgets and monkeys on the unicycles without pushing each other off?
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 15, 2008, 11:42:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2008, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 15, 2008, 10:21:52 PM
Yep. Sorry, man... its all in your head among the echos and cobwebs and not much company.
Oh, there's plenty of stuff in my head, Ratatosk. Most of it involves midgets and monkeys on unicycles, but there's plenty.
How did you get the midgets and monkeys on the unicycles without pushing each other off?
Because the midgets are FUCKING THE MONKEYS.
TGRR,
Has a head full of bad wiring.
I got tricked into a larp once.
Standing around with a bunch of fat pretentious wankers who think they are awesome because they are the children-o-the-night made me want to larp jumping up and down on their hides until they stopped moving.
case study (the larp I was in); story teller tells gives us vague mission. all the other larp players talk for an hour about how cool they are in really poor ye old english, gay ass fight, overly dramatic people talking about how awesome they are, scene close
~finí
Quote from: Faust on May 16, 2008, 01:42:50 AM
I got tricked into a larp once.
Standing around with a bunch of fat pretentious wankers who think they are awesome because they are the children-o-the-night made me want to larp jumping up and down on their hides until they stopped moving.
case study (the larp I was in); story teller tells gives us vague mission. all the other larp players talk for an hour about how cool they are in really poor ye old english, gay ass fight, overly dramatic people talking about how awesome they are, scene close
~finí
Most of the vampire LARP sessions I took part in devolved rapidly and permanently into people bitching about what their characters did and didn't, or could and couldn't do. Like I said, 90% of the people.
I am saddened this thread has not yet had a single mention of
LIGHTNING BOLT LIGHTNING BOLT LIGHTNING BOLT!
For the record, top hats, goggles, lab coats, big rubber gloves, ironworker's boots, and old style watches are still cool.
Quote from: Felix on May 16, 2008, 04:49:10 AM
For the record, top hats, goggles, lab coats, big rubber gloves, ironworker's boots, and old style watches are still cool.
Truth. I have a pocketwatch, and need to acquire a top hat and a decent suit so I can go around upholding the white man's burden.
yeahhhhhh I concede. Vampire larps often come closer to 90%.
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 16, 2008, 02:01:31 PM
yeahhhhhh I concede. Vampire larps often come closer to 90%.
Depending on the troupe, yes.
"troupe" :lol:
Quote from: Grand Moff Hoopla on May 16, 2008, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2008, 09:03:10 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 15, 2008, 09:01:53 PM
What exactly does larp mean?
BVH
-ignant
Live Action Role Playing, I believe.
OH GOOD GOD!
Yep. It's like children playing make-believe, crossed with D&D without any combat or dice rolling.
And they refer to their games as "theatrical events".
:lulz:
How do they decide how much charisma they have without dice?
This is anarchy!!
Quote from: Grand Moff Hoopla on May 16, 2008, 04:37:33 PM
How do they decide how much charisma they have without dice?
This is anarchy!!
I believe that depends on whether or not they're fucking the "storyteller".
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2008, 05:11:35 PM
Quote from: Grand Moff Hoopla on May 16, 2008, 04:37:33 PM
How do they decide how much charisma they have without dice?
This is anarchy!!
I believe that depends on whether or not they're fucking the "storyteller".
:mittens:
If LARP didn't suck so badly, it'd be almost like a Shawshank Redemption take on the BIP.
But instead it sucks.
I was thinking of going to a LARP.
My character will be a guy in t-shirt & jeans who has ended up amongst a group of creepy 20-somethings pretending to be vampires and wants to go home really really badly.
:lol:
(Sorry Cram & Rat' but the LARP makes me --> :x)
Bad LARP makes me :x as well... I had given up on the concept until I ran into the group I play with now. Rules lawyering is kept to a minimum, OOC "Look what my character can do" doesn't happen (or if it does, the person is ejected until they learn to play the game).
I personally like playing pretend. I like pretending in the SCA, I like pretending in Cthulhu Live, I like pretending in Vampire and when my Steampunk LARP happens later in the year, I will like playing pretend there too. I really like making the costumes and the props and the sets the story, the characters and the monsters (particularly in Cthulhu). And yes, TGGR, it is like playing make believe. I have no problem with that... In fact, I hope to be playing make believe until my sanity fades and old age just makes it the default state of my brain.
You just made Roger cry.
Quote from: Hoopla on May 20, 2008, 07:03:34 PM
You just made Roger cry.
I can't help it if he's lame.
I met a SCA type a while back. He was talking about swords and callibration and generally volunteered all sorts of information that I didn't ask for.
Then he says: "You'll find this funny. I was at a comic convention and saw this guy with a Naruto t-shirt that said 'just because you have a headband, doesn't mean you're a ninja'.
Me: :|
Him: Have you seen Naruto?
Me: No.
Him: It's anime.
Me: I see :|
Me: [pretending to hear my name called and exiting swiftly]
Now, of course I'm pretty sure having a headband does not actually make one a ninja. But the assumption that I knew & cared about these things made me sad.
Quote from: Mangrove on May 20, 2008, 07:11:43 PM
I met a SCA type a while back. He was talking about swords and callibration and generally volunteered all sorts of information that I didn't ask for.
Then he says: "You'll find this funny. I was at a comic convention and saw this guy with a Naruto t-shirt that said 'just because you have a headband, doesn't mean you're a ninja'.
Me: :|
Him: Have you seen Naruto?
Me: No.
Him: It's anime.
Me: I see :|
Me: [pretending to hear my name called and exiting swiftly]
Now, of course I'm pretty sure having a headband does not actually make one a ninja. But the assumption that I knew & cared about these things made me sad.
Yes, social rejects congregate within the SCA and Gaming... possibly including myself I suppose.
The worst kind are the social rejects who think it's them that rejected society because they're "better" and "smarter" and that's why they sit in a room with other social rejects all day long pretending to be elves.
(NOT, mind you, that there's anything wrong with sitting in a room with other social rejects all day long pretending to be elves. You just have to have the right group of social rejects.)
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 20, 2008, 08:11:45 PM
The worst kind are the social rejects who think it's them that rejected society because they're "better" and "smarter" and that's why they sit in a room with other social rejects all day long pretending to be elves.
(NOT, mind you, that there's anything wrong with sitting in a room with other social rejects all day long pretending to be elves. You just have to have the right group of social rejects.)
Agreed. I find that the people that "reject society" are particularly lame... I prefer the ones that take a hiatus from society to play a game... and then be abl;e to go back into society.
Quote from: Mangrove on May 20, 2008, 06:53:40 PM
(Sorry Cram & Rat' but the LARP makes me --> :x)
It's all good. If I was concerned with what The Other thought of my hobbies, I certainly wouldn't count myself amongst Discordians. I can see why some people think LARP sucks, or that I suck for doing it. All I can say to that is :boring:. This is the Strange Times, and
everybody is unspeakably weird. No shame there. One might just as validly critique people who post on forums all day, or own guns, or follow women's basketball or whatever.
QuotePissing all over someone else for doing something you don't personally approve of is MORE pointless than how pointless you think what they're doing is! So is taking offense to someone doing so.
In the end, I go to LARPs because I like to get outdoors, hang out with my oddball friends, and engage in team-oriented physical activity. I like challenges, competition, and the feeling of being a part of an ongoing story. I like the escapism of putting your life on hold while you get away for a weekend. I like that LARPing is relatively cheap, rewards creativity, and networks you with some very strange and interesting people.
I don't expect that it's for everybody. But that's cool,
nothing is for everybody.
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 20, 2008, 08:42:04 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on May 20, 2008, 06:53:40 PM
(Sorry Cram & Rat' but the LARP makes me --> :x)
It's all good. If I was concerned with what The Other thought of my hobbies, I certainly wouldn't count myself amongst Discordians. I can see why some people think LARP sucks, or that I suck for doing it. All I can say to that is :boring:. This is the Strange Times, and everybody is unspeakably weird. No shame there. One might just as validly critique people who post on forums all day, or own guns, or follow women's basketball or whatever.
QuotePissing all over someone else for doing something you don't personally approve of is MORE pointless than how pointless you think what they're doing is! So is taking offense to someone doing so.
In the end, I go to LARPs because I like to get outdoors, hang out with my oddball friends, and engage in team-oriented physical activity. I like challenges, competition, and the feeling of being a part of an ongoing story. I like the escapism of putting your life on hold while you get away for a weekend. I like that LARPing is relatively cheap, rewards creativity, and networks you with some very strange and interesting people.
I don't expect that it's for everybody. But that's cool, nothing is for everybody.
Can I has your baby?
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 20, 2008, 08:42:04 PM
I don't expect that it's for everybody. But that's cool, nothing is for everybody.
No it's not, ain't
nobody got no nothin'
Quote from: Hoopla on May 20, 2008, 07:03:34 PM
You just made Roger cry.
It's agony, man. Agony.
TGRR,
Smiling through the pain.
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 20, 2008, 08:42:04 PM
It's all good. If I was concerned with what The Other thought of my hobbies, I certainly wouldn't count myself amongst Discordians. I can see why some people think LARP sucks, or that I suck for doing it. All I can say to that is :boring:. This is the Strange Times, and everybody is unspeakably weird. No shame there. One might just as validly critique people who post on forums all day, or own guns, or follow women's basketball or whatever.
You.
Quit making good arguments.
Thanks.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2008, 11:28:28 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 20, 2008, 08:42:04 PM
It's all good. If I was concerned with what The Other thought of my hobbies, I certainly wouldn't count myself amongst Discordians. I can see why some people think LARP sucks, or that I suck for doing it. All I can say to that is :boring:. This is the Strange Times, and everybody is unspeakably weird. No shame there. One might just as validly critique people who post on forums all day, or own guns, or follow women's basketball or whatever.
You.
Quit making good arguments.
Thanks.
I just laughed so hard, I think I shit my pants.
Quote from: LMNO on May 21, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2008, 11:28:28 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 20, 2008, 08:42:04 PM
It's all good. If I was concerned with what The Other thought of my hobbies, I certainly wouldn't count myself amongst Discordians. I can see why some people think LARP sucks, or that I suck for doing it. All I can say to that is :boring:. This is the Strange Times, and everybody is unspeakably weird. No shame there. One might just as validly critique people who post on forums all day, or own guns, or follow women's basketball or whatever.
You.
Quit making good arguments.
Thanks.
I just laughed so hard, I think I shit my pants.
And this is only
one service we provide!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 22, 2008, 12:29:26 AM
Quote from: LMNO on May 21, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2008, 11:28:28 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 20, 2008, 08:42:04 PM
It's all good. If I was concerned with what The Other thought of my hobbies, I certainly wouldn't count myself amongst Discordians. I can see why some people think LARP sucks, or that I suck for doing it. All I can say to that is :boring:. This is the Strange Times, and everybody is unspeakably weird. No shame there. One might just as validly critique people who post on forums all day, or own guns, or follow women's basketball or whatever.
You.
Quit making good arguments.
Thanks.
I just laughed so hard, I think I shit my pants.
And this is only one service we provide!
It's surprising how many of them involve shit, though.
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 22, 2008, 01:06:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 22, 2008, 12:29:26 AM
Quote from: LMNO on May 21, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2008, 11:28:28 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 20, 2008, 08:42:04 PM
It's all good. If I was concerned with what The Other thought of my hobbies, I certainly wouldn't count myself amongst Discordians. I can see why some people think LARP sucks, or that I suck for doing it. All I can say to that is :boring:. This is the Strange Times, and everybody is unspeakably weird. No shame there. One might just as validly critique people who post on forums all day, or own guns, or follow women's basketball or whatever.
You.
Quit making good arguments.
Thanks.
I just laughed so hard, I think I shit my pants.
And this is only one service we provide!
It's surprising how many of them involve shit, though.
Well, we prefer to stay in our area of expertise.
Well, steam is known for it's anti-authoritarian stance.
But Steam on the other hand IS the fucking Man.
I don't get it. :|
Quote from: I Am Not A Rhombus on June 10, 2008, 01:55:23 AM
Well, steam is known for it's anti-authoritarian stance.
But Steam on the other hand IS the fucking Man.
What the hell does that mean?
(http://toothpastefordinner.com/061008/steampunk-definition.gif)
By the way, I read like half of the other steampunk thread and was sad at having missed so many of Tigger's alts. :sad:
Jenne, that's pretty damn accurate.
Seemed apt, given the fread in question.
Thread over.
Good cartoon.
oh i don't know. some deep philosophical issues coming to light here.
Like the fundamental difference between stupid LARPers and stupid "steampunks"
Forrest has met his twin.
at least LARPers are doing something, even if it's something we think is lame.
steampunks do not appear to have any redeeming value.
ETA: and I suspect that they're really all just closet emo kids with a flair for the theatric.
That may be true.
But whether your finger's up your ass or up someone else's, they're still both shitty ways to waste time.
Regardless of social value.
And I thought emo kids were regular kids with a flair for the theatric
OH GOD...drama llamas2
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on September 26, 2008, 02:44:42 PM
at least LARPers are doing something, even if it's something we think is lame.
steampunks do not appear to have any redeeming value.
ETA: and I suspect that they're really all just closet emo kids with a flair for the theatric.
Meh, I like steampunk. I like making crazy costumes, be they Halloween, LARP, SCA or whatever and honestly, a lot of steampunk looks far more creative than what most emo/goth/etc wear.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on September 26, 2008, 02:44:42 PM
at least LARPers are doing something, even if it's something we think is lame.
steampunks do not appear to have any redeeming value.
ETA: and I suspect that they're really all just closet emo kids with a flair for the theatric.
I have to agree with Rat. Some of the designs and styles are more interesting than your standard goth/emo/industrial gear.
to wit:
WANT.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/steampunkStrat.jpg)
I will admit designs that hold true to the definition of steampunk, like that guitar?
8)
I hate the "fashion attraction" sTeaMpunks that think industrial/goth/rivethead/post-apoc counts.
"OMGLOL, Iyam SO totally steampunk, not [insert subculture clique here]! Don't bring me down with your socialist/fascist/oppressionist BS! Iyam expressin mah indavidualiteh!"
I don't care what you where. Just call it what it is.
As for LARPers,serious or beanbag, nothing beats the original d20 action.
Do what you want, just don't bother me with it.
d20 FTW!
Also, I have to admit bias since there is a big Steampunk themed party next Friday and Sjaantze and I are just finishing our costumes. However, I fully approve, because we're both doing stuff we've never tried before... Sjaantze is building a brass and leather corset, for example, complete with working clockwork in the chest.
Maybe its teh Gehy, but its fun, its creative and ... its kinda hot.
Every time I see that a new post has been made in this, it shows up on my screen as "Steampunk: the new L..." because of the size of the forum on my screen.
I ALWAYS read this as "Steampunk: the new LAME."
And then I giggle.
I always expect the L... to turn out to be LMNO.
I cry a little inside.
My unsolicited 2 cents:
I like the aesthetics of clunky machinery and gadgets made of wood, brass, and iron. I am also somewhat fond of Victorian-era men's wear and hope to own a snazzy, accurate outfit of that period someday. However, I don't feel any real connection to the "steampunk" nonsense. It's just a label for people to attach shit to.
I still wear flannel and denim. I'm a little behind the times.
Quote from: Cainad on September 26, 2008, 09:30:30 PM
My unsolicited 2 cents:
I like the aesthetics of clunky machinery and gadgets made of wood, brass, and iron. I am also somewhat fond of Victorian-era men's wear and hope to own a snazzy, accurate outfit of that period someday. However, I don't feel any real connection to the "steampunk" nonsense. It's just a label for people to attach shit to.
So is everything ;-)
When someone says "Steampunk" it evokes a particular idea, at least for me. If it evokes the same ideas for many people, then it seems useful to me. Better than "Wild Wild West Punk" or "Full Metal Alchemist Punk" ;-)
indeed :lol:
Islamic fundamentalism is the new emo. Oppression, self-directed violence and never ending whining. Its perfect.
Nobody understands me
\
(http://pressthat.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/terrorist.jpg)
oh.
go cut yourself with that sharp wit.
Truly motivational
\ \
(http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/die-emo-kids-demotivational-poster.jpg)
Quote from: Cain on September 26, 2008, 11:45:55 PM
Islamic fundamentalism is the new emo. Oppression, self-directed violence and never ending whining. Its perfect.
tr00f, but it's got that high-horse kick as well...I'm so holier-than-thou, I'll off myself to prove it t'ya!
Fucked up shit
Just another version of musical elitism.
Prima: "MCR suck d00d! You should totally listen to Dashboard Confessional, otherwise you're a posuer fag!@
Secunda: *Looks at MCR album, cries, cuts self*
:lulz:
But musical elitism implies there's something of value to the culture.
All levels of emo kids need to drink Drano, slash thier wrists, and have a smoking party at 7-11.
:lulz:
C'mon, LARP haters, surely even you think this is totally frikin' awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkuUUvZLwMU
Quote from: Ghoura Agur on March 29, 2009, 11:45:51 PM
C'mon, LARP haters, surely even you think this is totally frikin' awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkuUUvZLwMU
That's a cool costume, out of the context of LARP.
The coolest thing about LARPing is "lightning bolt lightning bolt lightning bolt" and overweight women dressing like exotic and sexually attractive adventurers.
Cain,
has spent a lot of time on Google Video researching this topic.
Quote from: Von Melee on September 29, 2008, 07:23:55 AM
But musical elitism implies there's something of value to the culture.
All levels of emo kids need to drink Drano, slash thier wrists, and have a smoking party at 7-11.
:lulz:
Children?! doing something stupid?!
Heavens to Murgatroyd! what next?
Emo is the closest thing to an identity this pathetic generation has, theres far better reasons to spite them.
Quote from: Cain on September 26, 2008, 11:45:55 PM
Islamic fundamentalism is the new emo. Oppression, self-directed violence and never ending whining. Its perfect.
Quote from: Vene on September 27, 2008, 02:48:06 AM
Nobody understands me
\
(http://pressthat.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/terrorist.jpg)
TO WIT:
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa268/octareenroon91/uuu/new-adventures-sigmund-freud/1.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa268/octareenroon91/uuu/new-adventures-sigmund-freud/2.gif
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa268/octareenroon91/uuu/new-adventures-sigmund-freud/3.gif
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa268/octareenroon91/uuu/new-adventures-sigmund-freud/4.gif
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa268/octareenroon91/uuu/new-adventures-sigmund-freud/5.gif
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa268/octareenroon91/uuu/new-adventures-sigmund-freud/6.gif
I like LARP. In Bulgaria it's pretty new and is still fresh, not got much crap crapped on it. The band tough that you posted in the first post was horrible. Anyway steampunk or cyberpunk shouldn't be music genres. It's not like it means a sub genre of punk. It's just called that way.
Excellent, "no-holds-barred" rant on the absolute stupidity of Steampunk:
http://coralbaydigital.com/content/steampunk-is-retarded (http://coralbaydigital.com/content/steampunk-is-retarded)
Quote from: godspeed2048 on January 30, 2010, 05:38:42 PM
Excellent, "no-holds-barred" rant on the absolute stupidity of Steampunk:
http://coralbaydigital.com/content/steampunk-is-retarded (http://coralbaydigital.com/content/steampunk-is-retarded)
Let me first start by asserting that I am no fan of steampunk. It was obviously played-out as an underground fashion movement the moment "steampunk" jewelry made by middle-aged housewives started appearing on Etsy.
However.
This young Conan Duke fellow, whose blog entry I have to admit I skimmed more than read because, beyond a promising first paragraph, the writing declined into dullness, makes a number of glaringly ignorant errors in his dismissal of "Steampunk" as a literary sub-genre, the foremost being the conflation of "punk" with "punk rock". What? This child is probably young enough that he believes Green Day is oldschool. "Punk rock" misappropriated the word "Punk" just as much as "cyberpunk" and "steampunk" did. He then goes on to equate the word "punk" with "rebel". He should consider consulting a dictionary. The word "punk" is more properly, historically used to denote someone who is considered worthless, or a social castoff. That's why "punk" rockers adopted it in the first place; not to pronounce themselves rebels, but to emphasise their feelings of alienation from social norms.
Second, the existence of terrible steampunk writing no more invalidates it as a literary sub-genre than the existence of Dan Brown invalidates the suspense genre. Which, honestly, the scope and power of his degenerate writing makes a fair effort at doing. Any literate with an iota of aesthetic who has read the
His Dark Materials trilogy knows damn well that there is excellent "steampunk" writing on the bookshelves out there; usually not marketed as "steampunk", however, as anything that is, is most likely to be a hastily-written piece of crap churned out to exploit the latest fad fantasy niche.
Steampunk is, fundamentally, a fantasy sub-genre, and apparently takes place in a variety of settings from the post-apocalyptic wherein survivors scavenge and cobble together what they can, to completely alternate universes with different rules of physics...criticizing it for defying the laws of physics makes as much sense as criticizing Piers Anthony for his use of completely implausible, physics-defying plot devices such as "magic" in his fantasy novels.
Are the scores of fashion-steampunk fans running around in steampunk gear annoying? I guess if you were looking really hard for them, you could put yourself in a position to be annoyed. I can't say I've actually seen any swarming my modestly-sized city, but maybe places like, say, St. Paul, Minnesota or Madison, Wisconsin are overrun by them. They must be epidemic
somewhere, or he would have no reason to be complaining about them, right? I actually find the look of steampunk fashions rather charming, but then I've never seen any in person. Maybe it's terribly grating, up close and personal. Or, maybe, this guy just hates things that stem from pure imagination.
Finally, who cares if the suffix -punk has been appended to so many genres that it's become ridiculous and meaningless? Those which have staying power will stay, and those which don't will be forgotten. In my opinion, Conan Duke is simply another over-sheltered, overprivileged twit with enough time on his hands to write scathing reviews of incredibly insignificant things that, in his relative ignorance, annoy him, but ultimately matter to no one and will make no difference in the long run. And, actually, I kind of think that the name of his website, "Coral Bay Digital Computer Consulting", probably explains as much as needs to be explained.
There's a real world outside, boy. Go explore it.
I also got the impression that Conan there considered steampunk to be bad because its wildly unrealistic nature led to an empahsis on the aesthetic and stylistic aspects of steampunk.
Which is, well, kind of exactly the opposite of how I feel. Any subculture that is bringing Victorian stylishness back in fashion isn't necessarily a bad thing at all in my book. Plus some of the steampunk themed stuff I have seen, like the laptops, has looked damn cool.
Also, his criticism seems mostly to be based around the idea that steampunk is unrealistic. Its a good thing Conan is so clever and able to figure this out, because no-one else has realised the reason we don't live in a steampunk world is because of the evolution of technology. I bet when Conan read Lord of the Rings, he muttered to himself "rings don't make people invisible" under his breath, and wrote "unrealistic" and "biologically impossible" in the margins next to the descriptions of elves and dwarves.
Well, you know Cain, as inexorably as dancing leads to miscegenation, the next step after imagining unrealistic things is the making of art, which must be curtailed at any cost.
Give the little blighters an algebra text book, if they want to be "creative". That's what Conan would advise. And perhaps a statistical survey for Christmas, if they're good.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2010, 06:52:31 PM
Give the little blighters an algebra text book, if they want to be "creative". That's what Conan would advise. And perhaps a statistical survey for Christmas, if they're good.
That's the spirit... that's how we achieve proper technological progress, of course. Not with these ridiculous flights of fancy.
I was kind of hoping Mr. One-Post, who almost certainly found this thread by Googling "steampunk" in pursuit of promoting his blog, would come back and try to defend himself.
But no. :(
Quote from: v=1/3πr²h on February 01, 2010, 06:52:23 PM
I was kind of hoping Mr. One-Post, who almost certainly found this thread by Googling "steampunk" in pursuit of promoting his blog, would come back and try to defend himself.
But no. :(
He did defend himself...
on the blog. :boring:
So, it was pointed out on my Facebook yesterday that a crew of people should really dress up as plumbers, as they're the ones who keep the steam machines working.
I can just see it now, a room full of Victorian fops nattering away, when in bursts a gang of greasy, sweaty, pipe-weilding hooligans, talking loudly and crudely about life under the streets.
Could be good for a laugh or two.
You just described the last convention Suu, Gen. Stuart, Leln, and I all went to in Steampunk kit.
Pics? I knew you guys were going as renegades, but not as a bunch of Blue-Collar mechanics.
I'd say we looked GOOD, not quite blue collar. We were toting the hardware though, you saw pics of once wrench. I personally had 20lbs. of steel on my belt until security escorted me out for having a "Spiky death wrench"
A few folks we met, and several friends were doing the "Ass deep in an engine" look though, Coveralls, grease, and tools. Come to think of it, I need to do this too. It'd be cheap enough to pull off.
Quote from: Richter on February 04, 2010, 03:19:33 PM
I personally had 20lbs. of steel on my belt until security escorted me out for having a "Spiky death wrench"
protip: security guards to not want to see your prince albert.
:lulz:
Sometimes, the Hammer Wrench is NOT my penis.
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq354/dickthecat/wrench.jpg)
"Where does he get those wonderful toys?"
\
(http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman/jack_nicholson/batman3.jpg)
Quote from: Cainad on February 02, 2010, 04:34:11 AM
Quote from: v=1/3πr²h on February 01, 2010, 06:52:23 PM
I was kind of hoping Mr. One-Post, who almost certainly found this thread by Googling "steampunk" in pursuit of promoting his blog, would come back and try to defend himself.
But no. :(
He did defend himself...
on the blog. :boring:
Awwww I didn't even get to read it because he took the blog down. :cry:
Quote from: Cramulus on February 04, 2010, 04:32:54 PM
"Where does he get those wonderful toys?"
\
(http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman/jack_nicholson/batman3.jpg)
The CRAZY PREPARED R+D ALL CAPS LAB
I thought Steampunk sorta weird until Suu and Richter started showing their work on the forum. I've always liked Victorian stuff, but I'm totally thinking this is some basic radness altogether.