ECH's note: no, TGRR is not back. But he must have felt that this piece of writing was important for y'all to read since he bothered to compose it on the road and email it to me, along with his account information, from some mexican shithole with something like an 800bps connection on its old Tandy computer. The point? PAY ATTENTION. Thank you.
Sonora is like heaven on Earth...if heaven is to you, like it is to me, a great
empty stretch of blasted badlands, covered in mesquite, but with nobody bitching
at you for being too liberal or too conservative or too any other damn thing.
Blasting down the highway in a place like that at 90 miles an hour, with Tom
Petty howling out of the stereo, is as good as place as any to take stock of
your situation. You got out. You took control of your life.
That is a scary notion, once you come to terms with it. After almost 4 decades
of assuming someone was in control, you open the cockpit door only to
find that nobody has been flying the plane. Ho ho! That's right, you
really were free all along! How come nobody ever tells us this shit? And how
come I haven't hit a mountain before this?
The temptation, of course, is to return to your seat, pretend it never happened,
and drink yourself silly on those little bottles of gin they have on airplane
refreshment carts. That's what 99% of humans would do, in this situation.
But the whole POINT of this nihilistic excursion has been to separate ourselves
from the humans...at least most of them, anyway. So you have to go back to the
cockpit, strap yourself in, and try to learn how the controls work. But while
you're there, you may as well look down on humanity, see what the little guys
are up to, and maybe crap out the window on them.
Which is what I'm about to do to you.
You see, until you really do it, until you hurl yourself off the precipice, you
really can't see the truth...NOBODY is in control. Sure, we like to blame the
hippies, or the neocons, or anyone else...but they only have the control that we
allow them to have. This is why they take such pains to train you. One side
will shit all over you, until you have no choice but to join the other side.
And then they have you believing one half of the lies, which is ALL THEY NEED
YOU TO DO.
Until you get out from under, you can't see that. You might have a
glimpse of it, but sooner or later you get worried about Ackbar coming to
blow you up, or Alberto Gonzalez kicking your door in, and POW! You're right
back in the camp of one side or the other, when what you really ought to
be doing is trying to kick the supports out of BOTH sides - do your part to make
the whole rotten thing come crashing down - for the crime of trying to steal
YOUR Slack,Ñ¢.
Politics has to be the second best thing the CoN ever invented, after religion.
They have managed to use it to convince you that they OWN you, and that you OWE
them for owning you. Funny part is, everybody bought it, and nobody remembers
how to say "no".
After all, the only politics worth having are Asshat Politics, which aren't
really politics at all, but more along the lines of teaching the workld a lesson
they'll never forget: Leave me the fuck alone, or I'll KICK YOU IN THE
JIMMY! Of course, they WON'T leave you alone, because they CAN'T leave you
alone...the programming runs too deep. So you have to kick, and kick hard. And
no primate will ever have the respect of The Good Reverend, until they learn to
do just that. So shut up. All of you.
Or Kill Me.
TGRR is resting up in Mexico for a week or so, and will then head into New
Mexico, to see what kind of shit he can stir up.
I found myself gaping and laughing a third the way through it.
I laughed, I cried, I touched myself
but not in that order
If only more people got this. The minute you stop playing their game and stop playing your own it all becomes so clear. I realised this after I got laid off and got the job I wanted. The day you get out from under the relentless, status quo of blinded ignorance is the day you can start to reclaim yourself. This government doesn't own us. We own them. But, there are too many idiots out there who don't realize it, thus, why we've been continuously pwned for the past 200 years.
I know that feeling. Gets lonely out there on the fringes tho. Eventually you can't resist coming back into the fold, a wolf in sheeps clothing. Messias come out of the wilderness. Saving yourself is never enough.
Messiahs especially come out of the desert. Roger never did tell us the rest of the prophecies he said he had out there last time....hmmm.....
Right, now can you give us an example of how to do this other then trying to live out On the Road in RL. How do we avoid politics? How does this apply to people of other countries, cultures, ect?
There's a bunch of people that are already doing what you are, some in democartic countries, but most in the third world. You sound more like a migrant worker(or bum) then revolutionary or whatever you think other people should see you as. Bums shit wear they want, eat whatever's available drink whenever they want and most of the time fuck wherever they want.
If you reply to this give me a logical example of how to put this in action, not some cynic's crackpot idea of how to "free yourself from the man."
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 18, 2006, 06:30:41 PM
Right, now can you give us an example of how to do this other then trying to live out On the Road in RL. How do we avoid politics? How does this apply to people of other countries, cultures, ect?
There's a bunch of people that are already doing what you are, some in democartic countries, but most in the third world. You sound more like a migrant worker(or bum) then revolutionary or whatever you think other people should see you as. Bums shit wear they want, eat whatever's available drink whenever they want and most of the time fuck wherever they want.
If you reply to this give me a logical example of how to put this in action, not some cynic's crackpot idea of how to "free yourself from the man."
Logic, the man says.  :lol:
First of all, the venom in the above post has given you away, Assmunch.  I know whose alt you are, now.  And if I'm wrong, oh well.  I'm gonna fuck with you nonstop, either way.
Second, what I posted works for ME.  You want something that works for YOU?  Then THINK FOR YOURSELF, YOU FUCKING MORON.  Whattaya think this is? 
SOUTHERN BAPTISM?
:lulz:
Third, your jealousy is amusing.
Fourth, you have now become my new whipping boy, shitheels.  You want to flame?  No sweat, assmonkey...two can play at that game, and I play it MUCH better than you.  I think we both know that.
Now, for everyone here who ISN'T a shitbag, let me recommend Mexico to any of you, at least at this time of year.  Must be 90F here, right now.
Quote from: Cain on November 17, 2006, 10:37:38 PM
Messiahs especially come out of the desert.  Roger never did tell us the rest of the prophecies he said he had out there last time....hmmm.....
You don't wanna know.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 18, 2006, 06:30:41 PMIf you reply to this give me a logical example of how to put this in action, not some cynic's crackpot idea of how to "free yourself from the man."
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps your "mission" is to find that logical example for yourself?
To never trust and always doubt just builds your prison inside out
You're still a slave and still asleep, just like those you dismiss as sheep ~ DJRD
Quote from: DJRubberducky on November 20, 2006, 02:42:01 PM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 18, 2006, 06:30:41 PMIf you reply to this give me a logical example of how to put this in action, not some cynic's crackpot idea of how to "free yourself from the man."
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps your "mission" is to find that logical example for yourself?
Did it ever occur to you that there is no mission? Be a slave or be free. No biggie either way. Whatever pretends to make you happy.
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Did it ever occur to you that there is no mission? Be a slave or be free. No biggie either way. Whatever pretends to make you happy.
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Nice one Silly, that's the best way to look at things.
Rodger, all you did was run away. Of course that's gonna work for you, that'd work for anyone, temporarily at least. You couldn't handle the pressures and problems that occur in America, so you took your american money and ran to mexico. You did jack shit.
Technically, you did free yourself from the machine/man/whatever, but you did it in the weakest, most pathetic way possible. Your always talking about how things need to be changed and how shitty everything is in America and then instead of doing anything about it, you run from it.
All I can do to you, like I do to all things, is laugh. I don't normally attack people like this, unless they're arrogant pricks.
Just stop being an asshole, cocksuker, monkeyfuck, assmunch, 1-2-3-4 fuck a nun and close the door, shitbag, dumbass.
BTW this^ isn't flameing, this is just bitching and moaning becuase your to stupid to come up with a clever comeback.
Holy Shit.  I don't think I've seen Roger called out like this in a WHILE.
Dr. CowAss...I don't know what kind of history you have with The Good Reverend Rog...but in my book, he's a stand up guy.  I know, because he's stood up for me and mine plenty.  I've been backed against a wall, and not to make him sound heroic?  but instead of going for the kill, he handed me a shield and said, "Go to."
Methinks you've been speaking out of the wrong end of the cow ass...
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 20, 2006, 09:16:05 PM
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Nice one Silly, that's the best way to look at things.
Rodger, all you did was run away. Of course that's gonna work for you, that'd work for anyone, temporarily at least. You couldn't handle the pressures and problems that occur in America, so you took your american money and ran to mexico. You did jack shit.
Technically, you did free yourself from the machine/man/whatever, but you did it in the weakest, most pathetic way possible. Your always talking about how things need to be changed and how shitty everything is in America and then instead of doing anything about it, you run from it.
All I can do to you, like I do to all things, is laugh. I don't normally attack people like this, unless they're arrogant pricks.
Just stop being an asshole, cocksuker, monkeyfuck, assmunch, 1-2-3-4 fuck a nun and close the door, shitbag, dumbass.
BTW this^ isn't flameing, this is just bitching and moaning becuase your to stupid to come up with a clever comeback.
EDIT: I was going to make fun of you for your inability to read for comprehension (inre: the original post and what it was all about), but then it occurred to me that you DID understand what I was trying to say, and that you're intentionally misreading it to troll.
So I won't bother. Nice proxy, by the way, but I'm still pretty sure I know who you are. Since the board is returning to alt-trolldom, though, I'll just leave you to your own devices.
TGRR,
Hasn't got time for this.
Quote from: Jenne on November 21, 2006, 01:58:39 AM
Holy Shit.  I don't think I've seen Roger called out like this in a WHILE.
Dr. CowAss...I don't know what kind of history you have with The Good Reverend Rog...but in my book, he's a stand up guy.  I know, because he's stood up for me and mine plenty.  I've been backed against a wall, and not to make him sound heroic?  but instead of going for the kill, he handed me a shield and said, "Go to."
Methinks you've been speaking out of the wrong end of the cow ass...
"Cowass" knows exactly who I am.  He's not new, he's an alt.
You know what?  I don't need this shit on my (permanent) vacation.
I'm outta here.  I have no interest in taking the time to write a rant, just so sock-puppet boy can intentionally misread it, and drag me into another flamewar.  I think I'll go have fun, instead.  You're all welcome to him.
See ya'll.
TGRR,
Hasn't got time for the troll.
*does NOT feel welcome to Cow Ass...of any variety*
Well, I hope you don't let this guy run you off, Rog, but I totally understand where you're coming from. This guy's been a real, well, self-fulfilling prophecy, and it sucks his cow ass that you've had to put up with him thus far.
Sigh.
Well, this board has no ignore function, and - frankly - I simply don't feel the need to post rants so alt-boy can spam them up.
It's one of two regs, one of which misses the bullshit of 2004/205, or the other, who is obsessed with "revenge", for some reason.
I really don't care which it is.
Wait so...I win!!!!!
Ha, who's the whipping boy now.
Jenne I respect you and whatever expirience you had with Rog, but I thought his idea was stupid and asked for further confirmation. He started the fight and I ended up takin' him down to China town.
P.S.- check my fuckin IP, you cockass bitch fucker :lol:.
P.S.S.- Telling me to figure it out for myself and running away is a shitty answer, you offer no suggestions and no solutions. BTW, great fuckin flamewar :-P
EDIt: NM
I think im going to close my eyes
:-(
someone tell me once the bodies are swept up
EDIT: You dont have to be here for long to know whats coming
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 21, 2006, 04:39:17 AM
Wait so...I win!!!!!
Ha, who's the whipping boy now.
Jenne I respect you and whatever expirience you had with Rog, but I thought his idea was stupid and asked for further confirmation. He started the fight and I ended up takin' him down to China town.
P.S.- check my fuckin IP, you cockass bitch fucker :lol:.
P.S.S.- Telling me to figure it out for myself and running away is a shitty answer, you offer no suggestions and no solutions. BTW, great fuckin flamewar :-P
But...I think the rant here he wrote was for those who have been with Rog for years...he basically gave them a mission statement built upon rants that came before this. So for the question you had, the "why/how/from here?" is easily found in all the stuff he presented leading up to this. He's always revealed everything in his writing, he holds nothing back, pulls no punches.
So, if you are
truly interested in following up on what TGRR is all about, just read the archives in this forum. This very SAME subforum is named FOR Rog...for a good reason.
I know I sound like a suck-up and a sycophant, but I risk that because I 1) believe the man has a lot to say and 2) I tend to enjoy it all. I'd hate to see him close the book and end it chapter and verse because of this little flamewar...too too sad and fucked up.
I've only read some of his more recent sermons about getting mad and taking back your rights. They could have been inspiring, Sermon 42 even offers a few suggestions that are pretty funny(in a good way.) He also states that extreamism is valid if liberty is limited. These ideas are basically repeated in Sermon 49, along with statements saying prison doesn't matter if you're a slave anyways. He says all these things that build him up as some revloutinary, prophet, whatever, and then his grand scheme to solve all these problems is to run to mexico. Then, as packs up his bags, he tells us all how he beat the system, how he overcame the machine.
Fuck, when the goin' got tough for Ghandi, he didn't pack up and run Australia, he stood up (or rather sat down... sit-ins) and fought. MLK did the same thing. He didn't organize some huge exodus back to Africa like some of the other black leaders at the time wanted, he knew that America was his peoples home, he wanted to change America and he did (yea, I know there's still racist, but it's ALOT better then it was.)
I don't want to turn this thread into an arguement about TGRR and his "solution," but I will if I'm forced to. If he's given anyone of you good adivce or made your life any better, fine, but to me he looks like a hypocritical pussy.
EDIT: Jenne, you're right. He does have alot to say and sometimes it is enjoyable (although IMHO there's far more better material on this site.) But when someone is preaching this shit like it's real and serious, and then goes against it all, and further more attacks me for calling him out on it, I tend to think this person is a raving dumbass.
Im not sure if he was really attacking you at first
thats just kind of who he is
you get to know this after a while
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 21, 2006, 05:45:22 AM
Im not sure if he was really attacking you at first
thats just kind of who he is
you get to know this after a while
Hua, you may be right. If he was just joking, then I almost feel stupid, if all his sermons and shit were jokes too, then that's the greatest mindfuck I've ever expirienced.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 21, 2006, 06:01:02 AMHua, you may be right. If he was just joking, then I almost feel stupid, if all his sermons and shit were jokes too, then that's the greatest mindfuck I've ever expirienced.
Lie back, light a Marlboro and try not to feel to dirty in the morning.
I'm sorry but I don't read this rant as running away and giving up. And even if it was, who could blame him. You can only fight a fight that is impossible to win before you start questioning. Please to be referring to the obvious example that is in the nightly news.
And besides, deciding to stop being a part of The Machine(tm) or The System(tm) or whatever metaphor you want to use, in a way, is a strike against said entitie(s). To me, the fact that one can recognize that there is something going on that is mired in futility is huge. 99% of the American race can't even see THAT. And their blindness perpetuates the whole thing.
No, choosing to stop being a monkey, a puppet, even if it is a rogue puppet, can be a strike against the madness, not a surrender to it. To surrender is to allow yourself to be taken over by it. And besides, when you have another that is part of your life, could it perhaps be a bit selfish to continue to drag them into the fire? Perhaps allowing your family to exist somewhere away from the trappings of all this is a noble thing. That is, if you value such things. If not, then please to be giving us your sermons and rantings.
We are all open ears...........................................
Essentialy, "non serviam".
Thats how I read it. If you want to build a better world, you start by showing people there are alternatives. If you are not passively helping the CoN then you must be....opposing it. Gandhi, to extend the metaphor, went out of India and to the UK, where he studied law and, more importantly, studied the British up close. By getting out, he learnt things that helped for when he went back. And since the CoN extends over most of society by definition, you have to go out pretty far to come back.
Its harder to make sense of things from the inside.
Also, Rog has a habit of "taking a walk" and seeing the countryside. I think assuming he's running AWAY from something and not TO something is just a case of not knowing the whole story. He's not obligated to give his reasons for leaving. Those who know him well, who were his main intended audience, know that he'll likely return.
He is a man who lives his principles. I think it's imperative to say that.
I'd like to make a few observations:
1) Cow Ass is not an alt, or if he is, he's remarkably consistent in which proxy server he chooses.
2) regardless of one's personal perspective on Roger's writing (I enjoy it quite a bit, but I don't expect everyone else to), it seems a bit strange that when someone with a differing opinion comes along, we get all clique-ish and close ranks and tell them how obviously wrong they must be. That's not practicing what you preach. Differences of opinion force us to work through why we think the things we do, which is good mental health. Homogenous Discordianism is an oxymoron, and nothing I want any part of.
3) Roger: operating under the premise that Cow Ass is not an alt, what would your response to him be? I understand not wanting to respond to someone who, in essence, just called you a poopy-head, but I think that he was just trying to get your attention, and anyway, since I'm basically about to do the same thing and still haven't personally resolved my feelings on whether or not it's the right thing to do, I'm hoping you'll answer as a favor to me because I'm hoping it will help me achieve my own clarity in these matters.
TIA.
edited to clarify: by "do the same thing", I mean leaving the country, not calling you a poopy-head.
Was the above talking to me? Cuz I rather doubt I'm in a clique here... ;) I just have a nasty habit of standing up for those who stand up for me and my ilk. And I did ask DCA to spelunk before making snap judgments.
...and..."poopy-head"? :lol:
Quote from: Jenne on November 21, 2006, 02:24:54 PM
Was the above talking to me? Cuz I rather doubt I'm in a clique here... ;) I just have a nasty habit of standing up for those who stand up for me and my ilk. And I did ask DCA to spelunk before making snap judgments.
it was just a general observation.
Ah...
Quote from: Cain on November 21, 2006, 01:12:13 PM
2) regardless of one's personal perspective on Roger's writing (I enjoy it quite a bit, but I don't expect everyone else to), it seems a bit strange that when someone with a differing opinion comes along, we get all clique-ish and close ranks and tell them how obviously wrong they must be. That's not practicing what you preach. Differences of opinion force us to work through why we think the things we do, which is good mental health. Homogenous Discordianism is an oxymoron, and nothing I want any part of.
Glad you called it. I'm still the new guy here (always will be) and if I'd pointed it out I'd have gotten flamed then had to go have a little bitchy weep to myself. It's weird how heroes are born in these chat forums. I've been the guy who can say absolutely anything and be backed up, V's the noob who came up with a perfectly valid point and got shot down in shit. I've been the noob too, although anyone who thinks they can verbally rape me will usly come out of it feeling pretty cheap and used. I'm impartial here on account of noobness. So far I'd say Rog has said some cool shit and some dumb shit and so has cow ass. Neither of them are heroes or assholes IMO. Just words on a screen who's egos are their own fucking business.
Quote from: Cain on November 21, 2006, 01:12:13 PMIts harder to make sense of things from the inside.
Agreed, but once you made sense of it there's SFA you can do from out there. Time to crawl back into the shit and start dishing out the swimming lessons.
The first quote wasn't me. Though I do agree with with it, which is why I worded my response as I did, in a non-defensive way.
And yes, there is little you can do from the outside, but who said Roger was going to stay there forever? God knows I need to hit the road again soon and get all this shit out of my head for a while. Doesnt mean I intend to live on the road forever either.
Quote from: Cain on November 21, 2006, 02:34:47 PM
The first quote wasn't me.  Though I do agree with with it, which is why I worded my response as I did, in a non-defensive way.
And yes, there is little you can do from the outside, but who said Roger was going to stay there forever?  God knows I need to hit the road again soon and get all this shit out of my head for a while.  Doesnt mean I intend to live on the road forever either.
soz about the quote thing - was ECH - no idea wtf happened. I was just killing 2 birds with one post. I know how you feel. I like getting away from it all as often as poss too. I vacation as far away from 'civilisation' as I can get for this reason and also because the highlands of scotland and largely untouched by the inverse midas effect of humanity - you know how everything those primates touch turns to shit?
I'm happiest when the roads turn to dirt tracks, theres no fucking fences and warning signs next to teh dangerous shit. Places where you can look to the horizon in all four directions and see nothing but untainted country. Where I think I differ from most of you guys is that I love coming back too. I need to get away to find my centre (or whatever bullshit new age metaphor passes) but I like the monkey enclosure too. It appeals to my very fucked up sense of humour.
No probs with the quote. Just wanted to make sure credit was given where it was due.
I havent actually been up into the Highlands much. Seen some of it, BBC docs and stuff, but really my place is the jungle. I need heat. And danger that doesn't come directly from the climate.
amen to that.
I agree with ECHs 2nd and 3rd point on the last page (the 1st point about being an alt or not, i can't know). And even though mr Cowass did it in a pretty shitty way (well, you did, mr Cowass), he did also raise some questions i was wondering about myself when reading that sermon. Especially on the "running away" versus "escaping" versus "leaving it all behind" versus "jailbreak" versus "getting it" versus "not getting it" areas.
On the one hand, i say, wow it really takes some guts to just pack up and leave (though america being the way it is these days probably helps). On the other hand i think, but what are you going to pay your bills with now? (just interested). On yet another hand i wonder if i'll ever get to pack up and leave myself, and then i wonder if that wouldn't just be escapism. And then i wonder if that would be a bad thing or not.
well, Roger, you gotta do what you want to do, and no matter the reasons or the motives, i wish you best of luck. cause either way, it doesn't sound like a half bad plan.
Quote from: Cain on November 21, 2006, 02:49:33 PM
No probs with the quote.  Just wanted to make sure credit was given where it was due.
I havent actually been up into the Highlands much.  Seen some of it, BBC docs and stuff, but really my place is the jungle.  I need heat.  And danger that doesn't come directly from the climate.
We do a great range of climates to suit all tastes. Anything from vaguely warm and pissing rain to fucking freezing and pissing rain. You learn to love the rain and wind up north cos it keeps those fucking midges away. (for non uk people - try to imagine a miniature, stealth mosquito flying at you with 10,000 of his mates)
Of course, in America, its easier to escape into the wilderness. In Europe, the only place to escape may be into the cities (more on this line of thought later....)
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 21, 2006, 03:39:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 21, 2006, 02:49:33 PM
No probs with the quote. Just wanted to make sure credit was given where it was due.
I havent actually been up into the Highlands much. Seen some of it, BBC docs and stuff, but really my place is the jungle. I need heat. And danger that doesn't come directly from the climate.
We do a great range of climates to suit all tastes. Anything from vaguely warm and pissing rain to fucking freezing and pissing rain. You learn to love the rain and wind up north cos it keeps those fucking midges away. (for non uk people - try to imagine a miniature, stealth mosquito flying at you with 10,000 of his mates)
Rumour has it the Scottish have 10,000 phrases for rain - most of them unfit for polite company....
Quote from: triple zero on November 21, 2006, 03:37:11 PM
I agree with ECHs 2nd and 3rd point on the last page (the 1st point about being an alt or not, i can't know). And even though mr Cowass did it in a pretty shitty way (well, you did, mr Cowass), he did also raise some questions i was wondering about myself when reading that sermon. Especially on the "running away" versus "escaping" versus "leaving it all behind" versus "jailbreak" versus "getting it" versus "not getting it" areas.
On the one hand, i say, wow it really takes some guts to just pack up and leave (though america being the way it is these days probably helps). On the other hand i think, but what are you going to pay your bills with now? (just interested). On yet another hand i wonder if i'll ever get to pack up and leave myself, and then i wonder if that wouldn't just be escapism. And then i wonder if that would be a bad thing or not.
well, Roger, you gotta do what you want to do, and no matter the reasons or the motives, i wish you best of luck. cause either way, it doesn't sound like a half bad plan.
Ok, I'm not picking on you 000, but where in Rog's letter (I just read it again) did he advocate not paying bills? He said to free yourself...that could mean any manner of things. He didn't sound like he was running
away from something but rather TO something...there's a difference.
And he never said he wasn't going to "get back to it all" at some point...I didn't get anything so very permanent from his letter. It was more "of the moment" than that for me. And maybe my foreknowledge of these trips of his kept me from thinking this, that he was saying cutting and running is better than staying and fighting.
In fact, he was encouraging you all not to cut and run but instead just think and do for yourselves, as you seek to free yourselves of the chains that bind you. That's all I read into that. And that's ever been TGRR's message since I've known him.
*shrug*
Ok, I'll try to do both sides here...
First Angle: Consider the US Gvt as a corporation... Let's say Pepsi. All your life, you have been raise drinking Pepsi. You spend all your money buying Pepsi products. You even buy stock in the company.
Then one day, you figure out that Pepsi products are not good for your health, the environment, and the board of directors are engaged in nafarious business practices. What do you do?
Easy-- you sell your stock, and you refuse to buy Pepsi anymore. That, in essence, is what a person does when they Ex-patriate. They no longer pay taxes, they no longer support the Gvt, and they leave.
Second Angle: The US Gvt has its slimy tentacles in every corner of the globe. There is no escaping. Not to mention, Gvt in general will tend to fuck over the individual. There's nowhere to go to get away from it. What do you do?
For all it's downsides, the US Gvt has a fairly good system for enacting change. Sure, it's not that fast, and it's corrupt as hell, but you have a slightly better chance of getting things done that in, say, Ecuador. So stay, and make all the changes you can.
How's that?
Quote from: Cain on November 21, 2006, 03:39:50 PM
Of course, in America, its easier to escape into the wilderness. In Europe, the only place to escape may be into the cities (more on this line of thought later....)
I'm about 35 mins by road and 25 water away from 'can't see the cars' . I'm roughly 2 hours away from 'nearest' pub is 20miles that way'. Those places get scary when you're down to your last couple of cans and a 20mile paddle is a whole day trip.
True, there is still a fair bit, in the right places. But America seems to have alot more of it. Absolute wilderness, if you will. Same with South America, once you get really out in the sticks.
Quote from: LMNO on November 21, 2006, 04:44:54 PM
Ok, I'll try to do both sides here...
First Angle: Consider the US Gvt as a corporation... Let's say Pepsi. All your life, you have been raise drinking Pepsi. You spend all your money buying Pepsi products. You even buy stock in the company.
Then one day, you figure out that Pepsi products are not good for your health, the environment, and the board of directors are engaged in nafarious business practices. What do you do?
Easy-- you sell your stock, and you refuse to buy Pepsi anymore. That, in essence, is what a person does when they Ex-patriate. They no longer pay taxes, they no longer support the Gvt, and they leave.
Second Angle: The US Gvt has its slimy tentacles in every corner of the globe. There is no escaping. Not to mention, Gvt in general will tend to fuck over the individual. There's nowhere to go to get away from it. What do you do?
For all it's downsides, the US Gvt has a fairly good system for enacting change. Sure, it's not that fast, and it's corrupt as hell, but you have a slightly better chance of getting things done that in, say, Ecuador. So stay, and make all the changes you can.
How's that?
Third Angle: Where do 'you' want to be? Do you want to have a house and some creature comforts. You know about some of the bullshit that is going on behind the scenes and you steer your path to not buying Pepsi and drinking something else. You still gotta drink right? There's an option to buy a purifier and just go live in the mountains. Do 'you' want to go that far? I earn as much as I need to earn to live the lifestyle I want. I don't get obsessed with buying all the con sells but I wanna drink without the purifier and I want to sit on a comfyish seat when I'm typing this shit into a 2 grand PC which I built cos I like playing PC games.
You take on whatever you don't like around you through your choice of action, hide from it or fight it, There is a general tone of superiority, a snobbishness maybe, that seems to come from those who fiercely fight their chosen cause who seem to see themselves as 'above' the 'quite happy with what they're about' brigade. Some people may become enlightened and see some 'big picture' or other and just carry on doing what they were doing regardless. I've 'sold out' in a lot of peoples eyes, including my own, much younger, ones which I can still glance out of sometimes if I squint just right. I don't give a shit. Ima play some MedII now.
So, in the end, it's a matter of awareness, even if your actions are small and individuated?
Is that what you are saying, SC?
I kind of like that.
But then again, I'm pretty lazy.
Heh. Me too.
Quote from: Jenne on November 21, 2006, 06:40:30 PM
So, in the end, it's a matter of awareness, even if your actions are small and individuated?
Is that what you are saying, SC?
Even do fuck all if that's your bag. Right to exist and all that. Ultimately what? What's awareness? Lotta turned on individuals hate the sheep to varying degree of resentment. Sure they bleat abit now and again, keep me awake at night, but leave em to it's their 'life'. Funny as hell seeing the look on someones face when you manage to snap one of 'em out of delerium existens and the penny drops tho, so I'll prolly keep that shit up, in so far as it fucketh not with my slack.
Oh, I forgot. Solipsistic Narcissist. Right.
LMNO
-Has compassion for my fellow monkeys.
There's a fine line between compassion and feeling they need to be 'saved' from some kinda damnation.
A line that "fuck 'em" doesn't even begin to approach.
Just saying.
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 21, 2006, 07:44:29 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 21, 2006, 06:40:30 PM
So, in the end, it's a matter of awareness, even if your actions are small and individuated?
Is that what you are saying, SC?
Even do fuck all if that's your bag. Right to exist and all that. Ultimately what? What's awareness? Lotta turned on individuals hate the sheep to varying degree of resentment. Sure they bleat abit now and again, keep me awake at night, but leave em to it's their 'life'. Funny as hell seeing the look on someones face when you manage to snap one of 'em out of delerium existens and the penny drops tho, so I'll prolly keep that shit up, in so far as it fucketh not with my slack.
Ok, *adds "or nothing at all" to small and individuated* I can hang with that, even.
I actually have a huge problem with proselytization.
You guys have to understand that I attacked roger (I guess rather harshly), becuase he answered my question by flaming me. I like what LMNO said about ex-patriotism, but I didn't get this impression from Roger's other Sermons.
Lets get mad, lets get EXTREME, lets, lets...run to Mexico.
It's like he said, "Alright guys, I've shown you all the problems and I've taught you that we must fix them by any means nessesary. It's up to us, the people of America, to change our society, no one else can help. Now, while you get started, I, uh, have to go outside and check on somthing, I'll, um, yea..."
If he said "I give up, there's no hope for America" from the beginning, then I may even support him, but he didn't. He was all for change and revolution, but his bark was ALOT louder then his bite and he ended up doing the opposite of what he was preaching.
Oh, and he also rebuttled with some dumbass claim that I was an alt of some medling kid who was out to get him. He's done this twice to me now. The first I called him a "cynical asshole" and he accused me of being Trollax. Both times I confronted him he said I was a malicious alt, wtf kind of flaming is that.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 21, 2006, 10:25:34 PM
You guys have to understand that I attacked roger (I guess rather harshly), becuase he answered my question by flaming me. I like what LMNO said about ex-patriotism, but I didn't get this impression from Roger's other Sermons.
...
Oh, and he also rebuttled with some dumbass claim that I was an alt of some medling kid who was out to get him. He's done this twice to me now. The first I called him a "cynical asshole" and he accused me of being Trollax. Both times I confronted him he said I was a malicious alt, wtf kind of flaming is that.
Standard operating proceedure.
We've seen enough alters to know one on sight.
Quote from: triple zero on November 21, 2006, 03:37:11 PM
I agree with ECHs 2nd and 3rd point on the last page (the 1st point about being an alt or not, i can't know). And even though mr Cowass did it in a pretty shitty way (well, you did, mr Cowass), he did also raise some questions i was wondering about myself when reading that sermon. Especially on the "running away" versus "escaping" versus "leaving it all behind" versus "jailbreak" versus "getting it" versus "not getting it" areas.
On the one hand, i say, wow it really takes some guts to just pack up and leave (though america being the way it is these days probably helps). On the other hand i think, but what are you going to pay your bills with now? (just interested). On yet another hand i wonder if i'll ever get to pack up and leave myself, and then i wonder if that wouldn't just be escapism. And then i wonder if that would be a bad thing or not.
well, Roger, you gotta do what you want to do, and no matter the reasons or the motives, i wish you best of luck. cause either way, it doesn't sound like a half bad plan.
Heh. I can see that I must have lost my fucking touch for getting an idea across.
Can someone please explain to me how going to Mexico to visit the inlaws before heading to NEW MEXICO and then POINTS NORTH is considered "running away from America"?
Fucking Christ.
And, ECH: And whether Cowass is an alt or not, the shithead has been DELIBERATELY misreading my posts, and using that to start a flamewar. But you might convince him to rant for you (even though he needed help coming up with a fucking BUMPERSTICKER). Hell, just invite the fucker into BIP or HIMEOBS. That'd be "fair and balanced", right?
Jenne, thanks for your support. I appreciate it.
Tomorrow, we get back in the Jeep and head to NEW MEXICO, which - according to Cowass - is somewhere on the Yucatan peninsula.
Or ki...aw, fukkit.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 21, 2006, 10:25:34 PM
You guys have to understand that I attacked roger (I guess rather harshly), becuase he answered my question by flaming me. I like what LMNO said about ex-patriotism, but I didn't get this impression from Roger's other Sermons.
Lets get mad, lets get EXTREME, lets, lets...run to Mexico.
1. Your "question" was nothing more than a slam, shitheels. It was not a request for information, it was a gratuitous attack.
2. You're a fucking moron. By your standards, taking a vacation is "emmigrating".
Yeah...somehow I thought people just got the wrong idea altogether.
And Rog, anytime, though I don't think I did much good. :(
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 21, 2006, 10:25:34 PM
You guys have to understand that I attacked roger (I guess rather harshly), becuase he answered my question by flaming me. I like what LMNO said about ex-patriotism, but I didn't get this impression from Roger's other Sermons.
Lets get mad, lets get EXTREME, lets, lets...run to Mexico.
It's like he said, "Alright guys, I've shown you all the problems and I've taught you that we must fix them by any means nessesary. It's up to us, the people of America, to change our society, no one else can help. Now, while you get started, I, uh, have to go outside and check on somthing, I'll, um, yea..."
If he said "I give up, there's no hope for America" from the beginning, then I may even support him, but he didn't. He was all for change and revolution, but his bark was ALOT louder then his bite and he ended up doing the opposite of what he was preaching.
Oh, and he also rebuttled with some dumbass claim that I was an alt of some medling kid who was out to get him. He's done this twice to me now. The first I called him a "cynical asshole" and he accused me of being Trollax. Both times I confronted him he said I was a malicious alt, wtf kind of flaming is that.
We ALL come with experience, aka baggage, on the nets. You hit a nerve. And didn't back down. I really wish you would've.
Sigh.
Anyway...he's on vacation, as is now evident, but I don't make the practice of heralding peeps' personal business unless they say so. Ain't my place.
So then.
His "wrong idea" was a deliberate slam. Go back and read his original response in this thread.
And you know what? If lying about what I said, and making up motives for what I - supposedly - do gives him a boner, who the hell am I to get in the way of his fun?
TGRR,
Knows that taking a detour = running away.
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2006, 02:35:32 AM
Yeah...somehow I thought people just got the wrong idea altogether.
And Rog, anytime, though I don't think I did much good.  :(
for the record my gf looked over the thread this evening (and shes better at this internet jargon then i am) and she says she completely agrees with rogers assessment
personally i think its a case of mistaken idenity that just went a little sour
but i only know what wikipedia tells me about flame wars and such
i usually trust her judgement on these things
also
ECH sorry about sending you a notification on this thread
it was a blunder
i went to go to modify and pressed notify
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 22, 2006, 02:41:55 AM
personally i think its a case of mistaken idenity that just went a little sour
Well, except that the mistaken identity was based in his original "question", which was actually a string of deliberate misinterpretations.
Other than that, yeah.
Whoops. There I go, arguing again.
Never mind. Please feel free to draw any bizarre, otherworldly conclusions from this rant, and any others, no matter how disconnected from reality those conclusions may be.
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 22, 2006, 02:41:55 AM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2006, 02:35:32 AM
Yeah...somehow I thought people just got the wrong idea altogether.
And Rog, anytime, though I don't think I did much good. :(
for the record my gf looked over the thread this evening (and shes better at this internet jargon then i am) and she says she completely agrees with rogers assessment
personally i think its a case of mistaken idenity that just went a little sour
but i only know what wikipedia tells me about flame wars and such
i usually trust her judgement on these things
Tell your gf to get her butt on here! We can use more moral major--I mean chicks here.
:D *expects to get jumped on for her jargon on THAT one...heh*
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2006, 02:57:34 AM
Whoops. There I go, arguing again.
Never mind. Please feel free to draw any bizarre, otherworldly conclusions from this rant, and any others, no matter how disconnected from reality those conclusions may be.
Argue away, I say. You back down, Rog...it won't look good for anyone here. Just saying. That dude called you OUT...not cool. Because you are NOT that guy he pegged you as, and I wish I would've said more, but, I wanted to protect your privacy.
Feh.
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2006, 03:04:49 AM
Argue away, I say.  You back down, Rog...it won't look good for anyone here.  Just saying.  That dude called you OUT...not cool.  Because you are NOT that guy he pegged you as, and I wish I would've said more, but, I wanted to protect your privacy. 
Feh.
Well, I
would, but it's
boring.  Oh, hey, look, here's another fucker coming along to troll PD.  How ORIGINAL!  It's not like we haven't seen THAT about 10,000,000 times.
And the method of trolling!  Ripping on someone by making shit up!  THAT'S NEW, TOO!
And derailing a rant?  FRESH!
Well, he's all yours, now.  By this time tomorrow, I'll be halfway to White Sands.  Look on the bright side...now you too will be able to see how much fun 2004 was here. And, frankly, I really don't CARE how it makes this place look, having once again seen the
loyalty of my good friend ECH.
You might consider going back to EB&G.  The new Mgt is - judging from his post - about as likely to deal with this as the old Mgt was.  This place will once again be a total toolbox within 3 months.  169% troof.
I understand you.
Completely!
And quite unfortunately, for both of us.
White Sands...sounds lovely. Sigh.
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2006, 03:16:06 AM
I understand you. 
Completely!
And quite unfortunately, for both of us.
White Sands...sounds lovely.  Sigh.
Actually, it's a toxic shithole, but it's between me and Roswell.
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2006, 03:03:10 AM
Tell your gf to get her butt on here!  We can use more moral major-
she doesnt like discordists
:-)
besides her visa is in limbo
so she had to go back to columbus till its get a reissue - suppose to be reissued this month but it got delaied to january  :-(
life sucks sometimes
so shes really busy - cause she had to get a job while we wait
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 22, 2006, 03:19:11 AM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2006, 03:03:10 AM
Tell your gf to get her butt on here!  We can use more moral major-
she doesnt like discordists
:-)
For the life of me, I can't imagine why. :roll:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2006, 03:18:47 AM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2006, 03:16:06 AM
I understand you.
Completely!
And quite unfortunately, for both of us.
White Sands...sounds lovely. Sigh.
Actually, it's a toxic shithole, but it's between me and Roswell.
Why do they always name the toxic shitholes the nicest of names?
Oh yeah...marketing. :D
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 22, 2006, 03:19:11 AM
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2006, 03:03:10 AM
Tell your gf to get her butt on here! We can use more moral major-
she doesnt like discordists
:-)
besides her visa is in limbo
so she had to go back to columbus till its get a reissue - suppose to be reissued this month but it got delaied to january :-(
life sucks sometimes
so shes really busy - cause she had to get a job while we wait
Discordians aren't the easiest of bunches to get along with, I'll admit.
Well, I'll welcome her should she find herself here. :D
Good luck to you both getting matters settled, as up in the air as they seem to be atm.
It WAS a nice place, before they used it for 70 years of weapons testing.
Ugh. That sucks. I know of a few places like that in the desert, especially. Fucked up, if you ask me.
I used to hate the desert--but now, I find it beautiful in a sterile way. It's stark and harsh. But it's got a softness to its lines, especially in the dawn or sunset.
I envy you your present freedom. I've been needing to "get away" since I got back from vacation. But then, I'm always happiest on vacation.
Well, enough fun for now.  I gotta hit the sack, long drive tomorrow.  It's a long drive to the Yucatan portion of New Mexico.
:lol:
And ECH, I hope I respected your neutrality.
Why the fuck didn't you just say that before. You could have easily avoided the arguement by saying "no, no, you got it all wrong, let me explain..." Instead you accuse me of being an alt, wtf was that. You just made it so much harder yourself and the rest of this community becuase of the wasted time they had to spend rereading posts and drawing their own conclusions. BTW, IM NOT A FUCKING ALT, DUMBASS.
What I said was what I felt, none of it was deliberate just to make you feel like a little bitch. If I misintpreted (sp, shit im drunk) then I didn't mean too. You gave me alot ammunition though when you said I was an alt, what a weak fuckin comeback/ defense.
BTW, nice fight, quite a spicy one indeed, they'll be MANY more.
+0.0 Points to everyone involved. A steel wool mitten to the OP; the rest is fluff, flame, and bollocks.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 04:41:57 AM
Why the fuck didn't you just say that before. You could have easily avoided the arguement by saying "no, no, you got it all wrong, let me explain..." Instead you accuse me of being an alt, wtf was that. You just made it so much harder yourself and the rest of this community becuase of the wasted time they had to spend rereading posts and drawing their own conclusions. BTW, IM NOT A FUCKING ALT, DUMBASS.
What I said was what I felt, none of it was deliberate just to make you feel like a little bitch. If I misintpreted (sp, shit im drunk) then I didn't mean too. You gave me alot ammunition though when you said I was an alt, what a weak fuckin comeback/ defense.
BTW, nice fight, quite a spicy one indeed, they'll be MANY more.
There's a part of the art of war that says any battle in which there is no tangible gain is a loss. You can only win by having a nice cup of "shut the fuck up" and come back in a few weeks. Trust me on this one. I'm a pretentious attention whore.
You an alterego until proven otherwise. It's for your own good and our enjoyment. We can't have too many clones running loose. We have to have some for dinner.
Fights are fun to watch. It's not a waste of time if it entertains. I love seeing the proverbial shitslingers get trebucheted by the regulars as much as the next jaded Discordian.
I'm betting Roger will win. TGRR always wins against teh :troll:
teh reason TGGR pwns is cos he gives nothing away. Even with hardcore badasses like ECH and LMNO you get little insights into personality, gives you a feel for who you're getting bitchslapped by, if you have that you're halfway to slapping back. TGGR is a study in vitriol. Who the fuck is TGGR? Who knows? He's prolly the only person in this forum I wouldn't fuck with cos there's nothing behind the mask to attack.
Right, I've finally read through this clusterfuck of a thread. And if I didn't have a pair of lectures on post Cold War Terrorism and Human Security to attend in 10 minutes, trust me, I would go through this mess. As it is, those of you still awake or in the UK will have to wait a while.
Quote from: Cain on November 22, 2006, 10:31:20 AM
Right, I've finally read through this clusterfuck of a thread.  And if I didn't have a pair of lectures on post Cold War Terrorism and Human Security to attend in 10 minutes, trust me, I would go through this mess.  As it is, those of you still awake or in the UK will have to wait a while.
It's the sweeping generalisation that offends me - some people in the uk are still awake too.
hey roger, i was gonna write something, but in the end after all the misunderstandings basically it boils down to:
have fun on your vacation :wink:
hope you have a good time and cya around
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 22, 2006, 10:54:43 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 22, 2006, 10:31:20 AM
Right, I've finally read through this clusterfuck of a thread. And if I didn't have a pair of lectures on post Cold War Terrorism and Human Security to attend in 10 minutes, trust me, I would go through this mess. As it is, those of you still awake or in the UK will have to wait a while.
It's the sweeping generalisation that offends me - some people in the uk are still awake too.
It offends me too, as I was awake till 4am and wish I were asleep now.
I'm a hardcore badass?
Cool.
Quote from: LMNO on November 22, 2006, 01:56:43 PM
I'm a hardcore badass? 
Cool.
Defo - You're right on my case every stupid opinion I make. That takes some doing. ECH has never really fucked with me but I've seen him being pretty brutal to others, I'm sure I'll get my chance soon. RBG is awesome fearsome too. Cain tries but he's got a kinda cute cuddly side that lets him down a bit. I'd say that sorta covers the Harcore badasses of this forum, although I could imagine MGD would be awesome if riled, I can't imagine anything riling him. He's kinda like the chewbacca of discordianism.
Cow Ass: You're not helping yourself. The best way to convince someone you are not attacking them is not to attack them right after they noticed that. I personally felt very little was wrong with the original post you made, though the tone could have been nicer. That said, you didn't have to escalate, you CHOSE to. Also, you were way out of fucking line on the second page. You're lucky someone didn't decide to give you a few days off to cool down.
Roger: wtf? Sure, the first CA post wasn't fantastic, but did it merit that response? Really? So the twerp can't read, since when have you had an aversion to laughing at illiterates? I doubt anyone else would have merited that response and you HAVE been harder on CA's case than others, you cannot deny that. And the blast at ECH? I think they were valid and politely stated points, even if they were not part of the original rant. Thread drift happens, even you admit that and I for one would have been interested in the answers.
Cain, ECH, Felix, MGD: what the hell were you bastards doing standing by the sidelines? This thread has become a complete clusterfuck and you stood around and did nothing - just like the old mods did (though, to be fair, at least you didn't maliciously edit posts or sign up an alt). You're job isn't to take sides but to make sure shit like this DOES NOT HAPPEN. Nice job of sleeping on watch, people.
Jenne: must you insist on tag-teaming with Roger all the time? Its staring to look like a Felix-LG combo in here, only the person who is the target isn't Rog this time. I seem to remember some people raising objections to that....though personally I don't care how many people disagree so long as they state their reasoning.
Aini: some of your advice was actually useful, but alot was worthless. Someone is NOT an alt until they are stupid enough to slip up and reveal themselves as such. Feeding the constant paranoia around here is NOT helping.
Cain again: who the fuck died and put you in charge, motherfucker. The hypocrisy from this post reeks of something that died on the bottom of a pond. Just because you're tired as fuck does not excuse you for taking out some of your frustration on the people on this thread. So shape up, fucker.
Big-assed mittens to Cain for calling himself out.
Fucking bastard.
Quote from: LMNO on November 22, 2006, 02:33:12 PM
Big-assed mittens to Cain for calling himself out.
Fucking bastard.
Seconded! Pwning yourself is like total hollistic yinyang pwnage of a whole new level of pwnership. Cain moves a whole rung up my 'Hardcore badass' ladder. Now if he'd just kill a puppy or something to kinda counter that cute cuddly thing...
I totally don't see where you're getting the cuddly bit.
Quote from: LMNO on November 22, 2006, 04:09:53 PM
I totally don't see where you're getting the cuddly bit.
Just a vibe. Bear in mind that I'm utterly insane and, as such, don't expect everyone to see things from my point of view. In fact I think I'd find this planet intensely disturbing if they did. Maybe we just have different ideas about cute and cuddly. Actually, now that I think about it you didn't call me on the cute? :gheyforum:
QuoteActually, now that I think about it you didn't call me on the cute?
Your word processor hates you.
Quote from: LMNO on November 22, 2006, 04:18:42 PM
QuoteActually, now that I think about it you didn't call me on the cute?
Your word processor hates you.
Everybody hates me. Even my friends. Although those bastards won't admit it to my face. Only person likes me is me and that's more cos I just felt sorry for the cunt than because he's got any redeeming features.
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 22, 2006, 02:43:39 AM
also
ECH sorry about sending you a notification on this thread
it was a blunder
i went to go to modify and pressed notify
oh shit i just realised notify sends me an email everytime something is said here
and it doesnt notify the adminstrator that something is out of order with the thread
:argh!:
oops
LOL at TI.
Cain, I wasn't tag-teaming, I was sticking up for a friend. I know that behavior is non grata here, I don't give a "clusterfuck." My loyalties are what they are. Don't like em? Don't read my posts, taverramuchly.
Hey, sorry I'm not THAT guy/gal who passes by a friend stabbed in the back. *shrug* Not a big fucking deal to me.
*will check outta here for a while*
Have fun, folks. (this is sorta why I didn't bother posting much for a while)
Attack of the oversensitive, ITT.
[hide behind internet persona]
It's not real ffs! It's just words on a screen. Lighten up, sling some shit. Make friends and execute people.
[/hide]
Quote from: LMNO on November 22, 2006, 06:43:31 PM
Attack of the oversensitive, ITT.
True. Anyone would think I attacked everyone BUT myself twice.
And Jenne, I'm doing my thing as a moderator. I don't moderate only for my friends. Thats what fucked this place up before, mods playing favourites. I've already given my own opinion in this thread, that last post was what we might call me blowing a whistle and telling a few people to chill the fuck out for a bit.
And why the hell is this thread stickied?
what in the blazes happened in here?
Quote from: LHX on November 22, 2006, 07:54:30 PM
what in the blazes happened in here?
TGRR posts a rant.
Relatively new person counters with vitrol.
TGRR fires back
Noob gets annihilation courtesy of TGRR and company.
And Cain,
I didn't mod this thread because he didn't notice anything that put the forum at risk of legal action. If my job is anything else, let me know.
Quote from: saint aini on November 22, 2006, 08:07:30 PM
Quote from: LHX on November 22, 2006, 07:54:30 PM
what in the blazes happened in here?
TGRR fires back
Noob gets annihilation courtesy of TGRR and company.
WTF r u talking about! Once I called him out he just accused me of being an alt, he din't fight back. He didn't do jack shit to me. And no one else "annihalted" me. Everyone seemed rather touchy and sensitive once things really got hot.
The defense just pissed me off, being called an alt is one of the only things people really care about in this community, isn't rog a moderator anyways, couldn't he check my ip/whatever for himself.
Cain, thank you for breaking things down and
explaining it to everyone. My last few post were harsh, but I don't regret posting them, it was alot of fun.
Felix: True. But having this part of the forum devolve into the shitfest of the likes we saw last year is hardly beneficial either.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 09:06:57 PM
Cain, thank you for breaking things down and explaining it to everyone. My last few post were harsh, but I don't regret posting them, it was alot of fun.
I didn't do it for your benefit. And you WERE way out of line. You may want to rise to the bait and start a multi-threaded flamewar, but I'm not putting up with that shit, OK?
Quote from: saint aini on November 22, 2006, 08:07:30 PM
Quote from: LHX on November 22, 2006, 07:54:30 PM
what in the blazes happened in here?
TGRR posts a rant.
Relatively new person counters with vitrol.
TGRR fires back
Noob gets annihilation courtesy of TGRR and company.
Hell I never even noticed - Cain flamed himself - that was burning protest buddhist-tastic dude!
:thanks:
Quote from: Cain on November 22, 2006, 09:10:51 PM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 09:06:57 PM
Cain, thank you for breaking things down and explaining it to everyone. My last few post were harsh, but I don't regret posting them, it was alot of fun.
I didn't do it for your benefit. And you WERE way out of line. You may want to rise to the bait and start a multi-threaded flamewar, but I'm not putting up with that shit, OK?
My arms are a bit tired now, I'm done. But there's no way in hell I can guarentee this won't happen again.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 09:06:57 PM
Quote from: saint aini on November 22, 2006, 08:07:30 PM
Quote from: LHX on November 22, 2006, 07:54:30 PM
what in the blazes happened in here?
TGRR fires back
Noob gets annihilation courtesy of TGRR and company.
WTF r u talking about! Once I called him out he just accused me of being an alt, he din't fight back. He didn't do jack shit to me. And no one else "annihalted" me. Everyone seemed rather touchy and sensitive once things really got hot.
The defense just pissed me off, being called an alt is one of the only things people really care about in this community, isn't rog a moderator anyways, couldn't he check my ip/whatever for himself.
Cain, thank you for breaking things down and explaining it to everyone. My last few post were harsh, but I don't regret posting them, it was alot of fun.
Selective quoting.
Here's the full quote if you care to try again (which I advise against).
Quote from: saint aini on November 22, 2006, 08:07:30 PM
Quote from: LHX on November 22, 2006, 07:54:30 PM
what in the blazes happened in here?
TGRR posts a rant.
Relatively new person counters with vitrol.
TGRR fires back
Noob gets annihilation courtesy of TGRR and company.
Let's see... one Dr. Cow Ass versus five to twenty three advanced Discordians? I'm betting on Team Eris.
Dr. Cow Ass, you might win this battle, but you'll get carpal tunnel and lose the war.
Then I can't promise not to lock the thread until you all learn how to play nice, or at least without running the forum into the ground.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 09:17:31 PM
My arms are a bit tired now, I'm done. But there's no way in hell I can guarentee this won't happen again.
The winner by a one liner!!! :potd:
Quote from: Cain on November 22, 2006, 09:07:30 PM
Felix: True. But having this part of the forum devolve into the shitfest of the likes we saw last year is hardly beneficial either.
There's that to think of. So we douse the flames. Okay.
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 22, 2006, 09:25:05 PM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 09:17:31 PM
My arms are a bit tired now, I'm done. But there's no way in hell I can guarentee this won't happen again.
The winner by a one liner!!! :potd:
Sarcasm needs work.
Uh, being called on the carpet for defense of someone who's defended me time and again from such attacks, and then basically calling it lust? Nah. I think I can take offense to that one. If I'd had a dick, no one would accuse me for hunting entry into Rog's asshole. Just saying.
Needless to say, this shit has gone on long enough. I appreciate the efforts by PD staff to pour oil on the waters, but I hate being modded for sticking up for people.
Nuff said, Jenne out. And I apologize for any unnecessary shit-stirring. Here and elsewhere.
Quote from: Felix Mackay on November 22, 2006, 09:37:46 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 22, 2006, 09:25:05 PM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 09:17:31 PM
My arms are a bit tired now, I'm done. But there's no way in hell I can guarentee this won't happen again.
The winner by a one liner!!! :potd:
Sarcasm needs work.
Was mainly trying to draw attention to the typo.
Jenne: if you calmed down for a minute and took notice, you'd see I had a go at everyone who took part in exacerbating this problem. FFS, you had the second lightest comments after aini, and the heaviest was reserved for me.
I haven't said anything before now, but this entire exchange shows a distinct lack of creativity on everyone's part. Though Tigger has an excuse because he's on vacation, but christ what the fuck. What a trainwreck.
RBG,
comes out of the woodwork now that the worst is over, the coward.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 22, 2006, 10:11:01 PM
RBG,
comes out of the woodwork now that the worst is over, the coward.
that made me smile
after a really bad day at work
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 22, 2006, 10:11:01 PM
comes out of the woodwork now that the worst is over, the coward.
This is like that Robert Paulson thing in Fight Club - even RBG is a coward in RBG's eyes.
Well all I could have said was you're all being a bunch of idiots and shut the fuck up, and nobody takes well to that sort of advice.
RBG,
gets called a whiny bitch when she does that
*Snickers*
You win more hearts with honey.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 22, 2006, 11:22:24 PM
Well all I could have said was you're all being a bunch of idiots and shut the fuck up, and nobody takes well to that sort of advice.
RBG,
gets called a whiny bitch when she does that
The badgers bread powers would appear to be a match for my kung fu
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 23, 2006, 12:15:01 AM
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 22, 2006, 11:22:24 PM
Well all I could have said was you're all being a bunch of idiots and shut the fuck up, and nobody takes well to that sort of advice.
RBG,
gets called a whiny bitch when she does that
The badgers bread powers would appear to be a match for my kung fu
Now
that would be a fight worth seeing, or reading about on an internet forum...
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 23, 2006, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 23, 2006, 12:15:01 AM
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 22, 2006, 11:22:24 PM
Well all I could have said was you're all being a bunch of idiots and shut the fuck up, and nobody takes well to that sort of advice.
RBG,
gets called a whiny bitch when she does that
The badgers bread powers would appear to be a match for my kung fu
Now that would be a fight worth seeing, or reading about on an internet forum...
How many times do I have to point out you cannot win but by silence and trying another week?
It makes life sweet to observe people being unwittingly ironic...
Quote from: saint aini on November 23, 2006, 12:49:49 AM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 23, 2006, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 23, 2006, 12:15:01 AM
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 22, 2006, 11:22:24 PM
Well all I could have said was you're all being a bunch of idiots and shut the fuck up, and nobody takes well to that sort of advice.
RBG,
gets called a whiny bitch when she does that
The badgers bread powers would appear to be a match for my kung fu
Now that would be a fight worth seeing, or reading about on an internet forum...
How many times do I have to point out you cannot win but by silence and trying another week?
Follow your own advice, please.
EDIT: Or at least make me laugh.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 23, 2006, 01:21:00 AM
Quote from: saint aini on November 23, 2006, 12:49:49 AM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 23, 2006, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 23, 2006, 12:15:01 AM
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 22, 2006, 11:22:24 PM
Well all I could have said was you're all being a bunch of idiots and shut the fuck up, and nobody takes well to that sort of advice.
RBG,
gets called a whiny bitch when she does that
The badgers bread powers would appear to be a match for my kung fu
Now that would be a fight worth seeing, or reading about on an internet forum...
How many times do I have to point out you cannot win but by silence and trying another week?
Follow your own advice, please.
EDIT: Or at least make me laugh.
*sprinkles you with fairy dust*
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 23, 2006, 12:41:30 AM
Now that would be a fight worth seeing, or reading about on an internet forum...
WAYSAT?
Deathmetal to infidels!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2006, 02:27:55 AM
And, ECH: And whether Cowass is an alt or not, the shithead has been DELIBERATELY misreading my posts, and using that to start a flamewar. But you might convince him to rant for you (even though he needed help coming up with a fucking BUMPERSTICKER). Hell, just invite the fucker into BIP or HIMEOBS. That'd be "fair and balanced", right?
1) I was unaware that you posessed the power to see into the minds of men and determine their motivations. Please to be telling me whether or not my propane delivery guy has DELIBERATELY been leaving my nozzle half-closed after he delivers in an attempt to enrage me, or if he's maybe just not paying attention. TIA.
2) I didn't realize that we had a standard of ideological purity for the BIP project or HIMEOBS. if that is indeed the case, you can count me out.
ECH,
you call that shit a flamewar? plz.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 23, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
you call that shit a lamewar?
Edited for correctional purposes. I seen better flamewars with only one guy.
anyway
getting back to the original post
THIS:
Quote from: Rev
but more along the lines of teaching the workld a lesson they'll never forget: Leave me the fuck alone, or I'll KICK YOU IN THE JIMMY! Of course, they WON'T leave you alone, because they CAN'T leave you alone...the programming runs too deep. So you have to kick, and kick hard.
= 10/10
regardless of what anybody has to say about tone/delivery/blah/blah/blah
just a damn shame that the system work so well that we wind up kicking each other
LOL
its like the world wears its people as the jock strap
Quote from: LHX on November 23, 2006, 05:58:46 PM
anyway
getting back to the original post
THIS:
Quote from: Rev
but more along the lines of teaching the workld a lesson they'll never forget: Leave me the fuck alone, or I'll KICK YOU IN THE JIMMY! Of course, they WON'T leave you alone, because they CAN'T leave you alone...the programming runs too deep. So you have to kick, and kick hard.
= 10/10
regardless of what anybody has to say about tone/delivery/blah/blah/blah
just a damn shame that the system work so well that we wind up kicking each other
LOL
its like the world wears its people as the jock strap
agreed
Quote from: LHX on November 23, 2006, 05:58:46 PM
anyway
getting back to the original post
THIS:
Quote from: Rev
but more along the lines of teaching the workld a lesson they'll never forget:  Leave me the fuck alone, or I'll KICK YOU IN THE JIMMY!  Of course, they WON'T leave you alone, because they CAN'T leave you alone...the programming runs too deep.  So you have to kick, and kick hard.
= 10/10
regardless of what anybody has to say about tone/delivery/blah/blah/blah
just a damn shame that the system work so well that we wind up kicking each other
LOL
its like the world wears its people as the jock strap
Well, you can always trust LHX to see the actual point of a rant.
Anyways, I am now stuck in Sonora. Tore the piss out of a ligament in my right leg.
Fucking hurts like a bitch.
TGRR,
One-legged prostitute.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 04:41:57 AM
Why the fuck didn't you just say that before. You could have easily avoided the arguement by saying "no, no, you got it all wrong, let me explain..."
Because you didn't ask. You STATED what you THOUGHT I was doing, and then demanded I explain why I was doing what I wasn't doing.
Besides, I don't respond well to unprovoked attacks. I'm just silly that way.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 09:06:57 PM
WTF r u talking about! Once I called him out he just accused me of being an alt, he din't fight back
So it WASN'T just a question, I see. That's what I figured.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 09:17:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 22, 2006, 09:10:51 PM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 09:06:57 PM
Cain, thank you for breaking things down and explaining it to everyone. My last few post were harsh, but I don't regret posting them, it was alot of fun.
I didn't do it for your benefit.  And you WERE way out of line.  You may want to rise to the bait and start a multi-threaded flamewar, but I'm not putting up with that shit, OK?
My arms are a bit tired now, I'm done. But there's no way in hell I can guarentee this won't happen again.
Oh, but I can.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 22, 2006, 10:11:01 PM
I haven't said anything before now, but this entire exchange shows a distinct lack of creativity on everyone's part.  Though Tigger has an excuse because he's on vacation, but christ what the fuck.  What a trainwreck.
RBG,
comes out of the woodwork now that the worst is over, the coward.
That's okay. I'll be restricting my ranting to other boards from now on, so we can avoid all of this unpleasantness.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2006, 06:33:27 PM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 04:41:57 AM
Why the fuck didn't you just say that before. You could have easily avoided the arguement by saying "no, no, you got it all wrong, let me explain..."
Because you didn't ask. You STATED what you THOUGHT I was doing, and then demanded I explain why I was doing what I wasn't doing.
Besides, I don't respond well to unprovoked attacks. I'm just silly that way.
I thought your idea was stupid, you could have just corrected me instead of making up some conspiracy theory that I was alt hellbent our destroying you.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 23, 2006, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2006, 06:33:27 PM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 22, 2006, 04:41:57 AM
Why the fuck didn't you just say that before. You could have easily avoided the arguement by saying "no, no, you got it all wrong, let me explain..."
Because you didn't ask.  You STATED what you THOUGHT I was doing, and then demanded I explain why I was doing what I wasn't doing.
Besides, I don't respond well to unprovoked attacks.  I'm just silly that way.
I thought your idea was stupid, you could have just corrected me instead of making up some conspiracy theory that I was alt hellbent our destroying you.
So only YOU can jump to conclusions?
Well, that's of no consequence. We aren't going to fight anymore, because I have decided to be your buddy, and be just like you. We can viciously attack anyone who
tries to be creative, and trash their threads.
Won't this be fun, pal?
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 23, 2006, 07:00:17 PM
I thought your idea was stupid, you could have just corrected me instead of making up some conspiracy theory that I was alt hellbent our destroying you.
Yes, he could have. And you could have not reacted like a jerk in order to confirm that idea. So knock it off, OK?
Quote from: Cain on November 23, 2006, 07:37:34 PM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 23, 2006, 07:00:17 PM
I thought your idea was stupid, you could have just corrected me instead of making up some conspiracy theory that I was alt hellbent our destroying you.
Yes, he could have.  And you could have not reacted like a jerk in order to confirm that idea.  So knock it off, OK?
PLEASE TO NOT SLANDER MY NEW PAL! 
(http://www.whofailedtoday.com/bbs/img/smilies/gay.gif)
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:-(
Quote from: Cain on November 23, 2006, 07:49:53 PM
:-(
He's one of the cool kids!
I'm gonna learn how to trash freads from him! Before long, nobody will post ANYTHING besides insults! Just like old times!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2006, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 23, 2006, 07:49:53 PM
:-(
He's one of the cool kids!
I'm gonna learn how to trash freads from him! Before long, nobody will post ANYTHING besides insults! Just like old times!
Only in Discordia....
Quote from: saint aini on November 23, 2006, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2006, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 23, 2006, 07:49:53 PM
:-(
He's one of the cool kids!
I'm gonna learn how to trash freads from him!  Before long, nobody will post ANYTHING besides insults!  Just like old times!
Only in Discordia....
Doesn't it just make ya
nostalgic?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2006, 08:18:19 PM
Quote from: saint aini on November 23, 2006, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2006, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 23, 2006, 07:49:53 PM
:-(
He's one of the cool kids!
I'm gonna learn how to trash freads from him! Before long, nobody will post ANYTHING besides insults! Just like old times!
Only in Discordia....
Doesn't it just make ya nostalgic?
Yeah... I'm going to terrorize more sissy servers or build a website or do stuff in the Real
tm World
That's probably the second reason I'm against the Cow's Ass. (the first reason being he insulted TGRR.)
I shouldn't have acted like I did. I'm not applogizing, as that usually solves nothing, but I acknowledge I was wrong.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 23, 2006, 08:54:34 PM
I shouldn't have acted like I did. I'm not applogizing, as that usually solves nothing, but I acknowledge I was wrong.
Wow.  That was worthy of George Allen.
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 23, 2006, 08:54:34 PM
I shouldn't have acted like I did. I'm not applogizing, as that usually solves nothing, but I acknowledge I was wrong.
Admitting wrong is nothing. Not doing it again is what convinces the rest of us that you're not a total shithead.
And Tigger, I love you dearly but you're such a prima donna. Then again, that's what makes your rants so special.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 23, 2006, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on November 23, 2006, 08:54:34 PM
I shouldn't have acted like I did. I'm not applogizing, as that usually solves nothing, but I acknowledge I was wrong.
Admitting wrong is nothing.   Not doing it again is what convinces the rest of us that you're not a total shithead.
And Tigger, I love you dearly but you're such a prima donna.  Then again, that's what makes your rants so special.
It's how I build up rage.
You should see what happens when they get my latte wrong.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2006, 06:37:39 PM
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 22, 2006, 10:11:01 PM
I haven't said anything before now, but this entire exchange shows a distinct lack of creativity on everyone's part. Though Tigger has an excuse because he's on vacation, but christ what the fuck. What a trainwreck.
RBG,
comes out of the woodwork now that the worst is over, the coward.
That's okay. I'll be restricting my ranting to other boards from now on, so we can avoid all of this unpleasantness.
Beg please to reconsider.
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 23, 2006, 11:00:23 PM
Beg please to reconsider.
Don't bother, he says this all the time.
lol
if only there were actually some where else to go
that was actually some where else
like a different planet
or a different internet
Quote from: LHX on November 23, 2006, 11:08:17 PM
or a different internet
there is
it used by the american military
i bet roger could cause some havoc in there
EDIT FOR SPELLING
There is also the Tor onionnet. But it takes forever to load.
sometimes i rant where nobody can hear me too
Actually, I have been spying on your Myspace account. I have left important confidential information in my comments on your blog.
Quote from: Cain on November 23, 2006, 11:25:57 PM
Actually, I have been spying on your Myspace account. I have left important confidential information in my comments on your blog.
oh snap
lol all i have on myspace is gambling tips and some nonsense about free webcam girls
Quote from: Jenne on November 22, 2006, 10:02:26 PM
Uh, being called on the carpet for defense of someone who's defended me time and again from such attacks, and then basically calling it lust? Nah. I think I can take offense to that one. If I'd had a dick, no one would accuse me for hunting entry into Rog's asshole. Just saying.
Needless to say, this shit has gone on long enough. I appreciate the efforts by PD staff to pour oil on the waters, but I hate being modded for sticking up for people.
Nuff said, Jenne out. And I apologize for any unnecessary shit-stirring. Here and elsewhere.
everyone ITT needs to get over themselves and remember that this is just the internets.
Jenne, as far as I know you weren't modded, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Personally, I didn't mod this thread because I wasn't here for most of it (is IS thanks-fucking-giving, people) and because I don't mod unless it's to protect the legal integrity of the forum. y'all wanna tear each other to pieces, that's y'alls business. It's sad, but IMO I gave up some of my right to publically take sides and fling shit when I agreed to try to administer these forums. If anyone wants to know where I stand on something, they're perfectly welcome to engage me in a private conversation and I'll be straight with anyone, but I won't repeat the mistakes of the old regime and publically play favorites in a fight like this based strictly on who I'm friends with.
Cow Ass may have acted like his namesake, and he may have misinterpreted Roger's rant, but he still raised some questions which I had been pondering over myself for a while and those questions are no less valid for his unfortunate manner of asking them.
Roger, if you felt that my attempt to be even-handed and/or my rephrasing of Cow Ass's question for my own benefit were somehow a slight against you, then I'm sorry you feel that way. Also, not everyone who is an asshole to you on these forums is an alt. Assholism is not a fixed-sum condition.
happy thanksgiving you fuckers. I hope those of you who celebrate it are enjoying good food and drink with good company, and those of you who don't celebrate it might check it out. It's one American tradition worth emulating.
ECH is an alt.
You heard it here first.
ECH is not an alt.
If ECH is an alt, there is no Santa.
Happy Turkey Fisting Day... the only day we are thankful for being able to legally commit sodomy, bestiality and necrophilia all in one act before our loved ones.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 23, 2006, 11:04:15 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 23, 2006, 11:00:23 PM
Beg please to reconsider.
Don't bother, he says this all the time. 
Kinda figured that but if no one protested then there'd be no point him saying it.
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 24, 2006, 07:57:38 AM
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 23, 2006, 11:04:15 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on November 23, 2006, 11:00:23 PM
Beg please to reconsider.
Don't bother, he says this all the time. 
Kinda figured that but if no one protested then there'd be no point him saying it.
You're too wise for your own good.
Get out while you still can.
Quote from: saint aini on November 24, 2006, 12:41:53 AM
ECH is not an alt.
If ECH is an alt, there is no Santa.
Happy Turkey Fisting Day... the only day we are thankful for being able to legally commit sodomy, bestiality and necrophilia all in one act before our loved ones.
ECH is an alt.
I think he's Tyler.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 23, 2006, 11:38:33 PM
happy thanksgiving you fuckers. I hope those of you who celebrate it are enjoying good food and drink with good company, and those of you who don't celebrate it might check it out. It's one American tradition worth emulating.
And Happy Turkey Day to you, ECH.
Thanks for explaining your position.
Quote from: Jenne on November 24, 2006, 02:21:31 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 23, 2006, 11:38:33 PM
happy thanksgiving you fuckers. I hope those of you who celebrate it are enjoying good food and drink with good company, and those of you who don't celebrate it might check it out. It's one American tradition worth emulating.
And Happy Turkey Day to you, ECH.
Thanks for explaining your position.
Huh?
I guess being an admin means that you can't have an opinion.
Pffffft.
TGRR,
Knows that being an admin is like being a mod...you don't use board functions to "win" an argument.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2006, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 24, 2006, 02:21:31 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 23, 2006, 11:38:33 PM
happy thanksgiving you fuckers. I hope those of you who celebrate it are enjoying good food and drink with good company, and those of you who don't celebrate it might check it out. It's one American tradition worth emulating.
And Happy Turkey Day to you, ECH.
Thanks for explaining your position.
Huh?
I guess being an admin means that you can't have an opinion.
Pffffft.
TGRR,
Knows that being an admin is like being a mod...you don't use board functions to "win" an argument.
I'll say this for it: it's not fun when shit goes down. I'd much rather be a lowly poster, even a hated and despised poster, than a self-righteous mod/admin. I've been the latter lately and it sucks donkey balls soaked in shit.
Yeah, well, the trick is to not use mod/admin abilities unless the TOS has actually been violated.
Stopping a fread for a fight, or because the subject matter makes you nervous isn't modding, it's censorship.
I know. I'm thinking that's not why I did it though. But having left the lid off of Pandora's box, I should have just left well enough alone and let others handle it.
I did it for king and country.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2006, 02:31:28 PM
Yeah, well, the trick is to not use mod/admin abilities unless the TOS has actually been violated.
Stopping a fread for a fight, or because the subject matter makes you nervous isn't modding, it's censorship.
Admin=God
Mod=Next to God
TGRR>God.
Quote from: Jenne on November 24, 2006, 02:33:49 PM
I know.  I'm thinking that's not why I did it though.  But having left the lid off of Pandora's box, I should have just left well enough alone and let others handle it.
I did it for king and country. 
That will always get you in trouble.
Quote from: saint aini on November 24, 2006, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2006, 02:31:28 PM
Yeah, well, the trick is to not use mod/admin abilities unless the TOS has actually been violated.
Stopping a fread for a fight, or because the subject matter makes you nervous isn't modding, it's censorship.
Admin=God
Mod=Next to God
TGRR>God.
Moist towlette?
Whew...read all 12 pages of this thread.
Took me nearly all night, seeing as I am on hiatus. (;
I have two things to say.
1. TGRR - Love the rant. For a couple of reasons. What I got from it was
that if you dont live your not living. (I just want to say here that, that may not hAve been what you were saying, but sometimes I get things from wrightings that the author did not intend.)
2. Thanksgiving is a slaughter holiday.
    ( but then again what isnt a slaughter holiday)
ok one more thing to say....
Since I have been on my hiatus, I have created a new struggle with myself
and how I see the world we live in.
(Something I may have not noticed had I not 'left')
I plan on wrighting my first rant when I return to the states.
If you are already out, why are you coming back?
Simply illogical
[/spock]
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on November 25, 2006, 01:59:48 AM
If you are already out, why are you coming back?
Simply illogical
[/spock]
For the same reason that I will return when my leg allows it.
It's my home, and I will not abandon it to Nazis.
TGRR,
Illogical.
I may be a sucker, but not for returning to the states.
It's all the same f-ing bullshit....Everywhere.
Maybe not quite the same, but still bullshit.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2006, 02:14:17 AM
It's my home, and I will not abandon it to Nazis.
TGRR,
Illogical.
nonsense
thats the most logical thing i heard all week
It may be the same bullshit, but with perfect white beaches, good inexpensive rum and lots of hotties OR Karl Rove, SUVs and Fox News.
Quote from: Cain on November 25, 2006, 02:25:44 PM
It may be the same bullshit, but with perfect white beaches, good inexpensive rum and lots of hotties OR Karl Rove, SUVs and Fox News.
PREACH IT, BROTHA CAIN.
:hustlas:
Quote from: Cain on November 25, 2006, 02:25:44 PM
It may be the same bullshit, but with perfect white beaches, good inexpensive rum and lots of hotties OR Karl Rove, SUVs and Fox News.
sssh if you let everybody know about it they'll go there and spoil it
Quote from: triple zero on November 25, 2006, 03:47:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 25, 2006, 02:25:44 PM
It may be the same bullshit, but with perfect white beaches, good inexpensive rum and lots of hotties OR Karl Rove, SUVs and Fox News.
sssh if you let everybody know about it they'll go there and spoil it
HAW HAW! TOO LATE.
:cry:
Quote from: maphdet on November 25, 2006, 02:23:12 PM
I may be a sucker, but not for returning to the states.
It's all the same f-ing bullshit....Everywhere.
Maybe not quite the same, but still bullshit.
Why are you censoring fucking but not bullshit?
Twat.
I got kicked from a yahoo group for saying shit. I didn't even know it was a swear word these days.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 25, 2006, 09:24:14 PM
Quote from: maphdet on November 25, 2006, 02:23:12 PM
I may be a sucker, but not for returning to the states.
It's all the same f-ing bullshit....Everywhere.
Maybe not quite the same, but still bullshit.
Why are you censoring fucking but not bullshit? 
Twat.
PLS STOP EATING *MY* PILS.
THX.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2006, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: triple zero on November 25, 2006, 03:47:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 25, 2006, 02:25:44 PM
It may be the same bullshit, but with perfect white beaches, good inexpensive rum and lots of hotties OR Karl Rove, SUVs and Fox News.
sssh if you let everybody know about it they'll go there and spoil it
HAW HAW! TOO LATE.
troof.
ECH,
going there to spoil it
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 26, 2006, 05:19:08 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2006, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: triple zero on November 25, 2006, 03:47:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 25, 2006, 02:25:44 PM
It may be the same bullshit, but with perfect white beaches, good inexpensive rum and lots of hotties OR Karl Rove, SUVs and Fox News.
sssh if you let everybody know about it they'll go there and spoil it
HAW HAW!  TOO LATE.
troof.
ECH,
going there to spoil it
Toss a broken bottle down for me, dude.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 25, 2006, 09:24:14 PM
Quote from: maphdet on November 25, 2006, 02:23:12 PM
I may be a sucker, but not for returning to the states.
It's all the same f-ing bullshit....Everywhere.
Maybe not quite the same, but still bullshit.
Why are you censoring fucking but not bullshit? 
Twat.
Meh.
I like the the way f-ing sounded in that sentance, and...
wait why the Fuck am I explaining myself.
/
Quote from: maphdet on November 26, 2006, 03:16:27 PM
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on November 25, 2006, 09:24:14 PM
Quote from: maphdet on November 25, 2006, 02:23:12 PM
I may be a sucker, but not for returning to the states.
It's all the same f-ing bullshit....Everywhere.
Maybe not quite the same, but still bullshit.
Why are you censoring fucking but not bullshit?
Twat.
Meh.
I like the the way f-ing sounded in that sentance, and...
wait why the Fuck am I explaining myself.
/
It felt like the right thing to do at the moment you were doing it.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 21, 2006, 02:22:38 PM
I'd like to make a few observations:
1) Cow Ass is not an alt, or if he is, he's remarkably consistent in which proxy server he chooses.
2) regardless of one's personal perspective on Roger's writing (I enjoy it quite a bit, but I don't expect everyone else to), it seems a bit strange that when someone with a differing opinion comes along, we get all clique-ish and close ranks and tell them how obviously wrong they must be. That's not practicing what you preach. Differences of opinion force us to work through why we think the things we do, which is good mental health. Homogenous Discordianism is an oxymoron, and nothing I want any part of.
3) Roger: operating under the premise that Cow Ass is not an alt, what would your response to him be? I understand not wanting to respond to someone who, in essence, just called you a poopy-head, but I think that he was just trying to get your attention, and anyway, since I'm basically about to do the same thing and still haven't personally resolved my feelings on whether or not it's the right thing to do, I'm hoping you'll answer as a favor to me because I'm hoping it will help me achieve my own clarity in these matters.
TIA.
edited to clarify: by "do the same thing", I mean leaving the country, not calling you a poopy-head.
Ho ho! I had almost let myself forget about this little whack in the back.
Whatever happened to Cow Ass, anyway?
He was hilarious, though not in the way he intended to be.
You just can't PAY for people that stupid.
you should remember
you called him out on something he said being racist and he never had an answer for it
for a while he was still dropping in, but not typing anything
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 23, 2007, 02:59:52 PM
you should remember
you called him out on something he said being racist and he never had an answer for it
for a while he was still dropping in, but not typing anything
Oh, yeah. I forgot about that.
:lol:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2006, 02:14:17 AM
For the same reason that I will return when my leg allows it.
It's my home, and I will not abandon it to Nazis.
TGRR,
Illogical.
This is why I love you, Roger. :lol:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 22, 2006, 10:21:20 AM
teh reason TGGR pwns is cos he gives nothing away. Even with hardcore badasses like ECH and LMNO you get little insights into personality, gives you a feel for who you're getting bitchslapped by, if you have that you're halfway to slapping back. TGGR is a study in vitriol. Who the fuck is TGGR? Who knows? He's prolly the only person in this forum I wouldn't fuck with cos there's nothing behind the mask to attack.
:lulz:
Sure there is.
It's another mask.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 22, 2006, 10:21:20 AM
teh reason TGGR pwns is cos he gives nothing away. Even with hardcore badasses like ECH and LMNO you get little insights into personality, gives you a feel for who you're getting bitchslapped by, if you have that you're halfway to slapping back. TGGR is a study in vitriol. Who the fuck is TGGR? Who knows? He's prolly the only person in this forum I wouldn't fuck with cos there's nothing behind the mask to attack.
:lulz:
Sure there is.
It's another mask.
OH MY GOD! TGRR IS CROWLEY!!!!
:lulz:
Quote from: Ratatosk on March 18, 2011, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 22, 2006, 10:21:20 AM
teh reason TGGR pwns is cos he gives nothing away. Even with hardcore badasses like ECH and LMNO you get little insights into personality, gives you a feel for who you're getting bitchslapped by, if you have that you're halfway to slapping back. TGGR is a study in vitriol. Who the fuck is TGGR? Who knows? He's prolly the only person in this forum I wouldn't fuck with cos there's nothing behind the mask to attack.
:lulz:
Sure there is.
It's another mask.
OH MY GOD! TGRR IS CROWLEY!!!!
:lulz:
If Ozzy Osbourne writes a bad song about me, I'm going up a watertower.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2011, 08:30:47 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on March 18, 2011, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 22, 2006, 10:21:20 AM
teh reason TGGR pwns is cos he gives nothing away. Even with hardcore badasses like ECH and LMNO you get little insights into personality, gives you a feel for who you're getting bitchslapped by, if you have that you're halfway to slapping back. TGGR is a study in vitriol. Who the fuck is TGGR? Who knows? He's prolly the only person in this forum I wouldn't fuck with cos there's nothing behind the mask to attack.
:lulz:
Sure there is.
It's another mask.
OH MY GOD! TGRR IS CROWLEY!!!!
:lulz:
If Ozzy Osbourne writes a bad song about me, I'm going up a watertower.
:lulz:
Mr. TGRR what goes on in your brain?
Mr. TGRR are you inspired or insane?
...
*Rat is not gonna write more on account of he doesn't want to die slowly in some horrible way in the middle of the Arizona desert*