Get the fucking sauce.
or don't get the fucking sauce.
I don't care.
but I will pull your eyeball out with a pair of tongs, batter it, deep fry it, and serve it with horseradish sauce the next time you order your fucking sauce on the fucking side.
enjoy your meal.
right on.
my idea is usually that the chef knows how the food is served best. how am i even supposed to know? i just see a vague description on the menu. so he can put the sauce whereever he wants.
i prefer it sort of drizzled over the meat, with a fine line of splashes around the clean white plate, or whatever it is they do to make it look so fancy. on top of it should be a deep fried chip or curl of some obscure vegetable (so you can ask the waiter, "what is this?", "deep fried black salsify root chips", "oh, cool! :D") and one or two chives.
try doing that "on the side" :roll:
In a lot of dishes 'on the side' completely alters the flavor as it doesn't allow the flavors to meld correctly.
I agree with the OP.
Ah'm a payin' customerrr
Yuh'll put the sawce where Ah wants the sawce
Yew unnerstand?
\
:mullet:
/
All this "flavor" and "cookin" stuff makes a man right nervous
Ah need a li'l space from that sneaky sawce
It might try'n hurt me
Order "Big Mac" with the sauce on the side.
(Eat it at your own peril.)
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on June 26, 2008, 03:35:45 AM
Get the fucking sauce.
or don't get the fucking sauce.
I don't care.
but I will pull your eyeball out with a pair of tongs, batter it, deep fry it, and serve it with horseradish sauce the next time you order your fucking sauce on the fucking side.
enjoy your meal.
Can I get the horseradish on the side?
Quote from: Richter on June 26, 2008, 04:38:10 PM
Order "Big Mac" with the sauce on the side.
(Eat it at your own peril.)
O:MF. Have 6 people in the car at the peak of their rush and every one of you order it 'special'.
Explain again how this is a mindfuck?
I usually let them just make it however they make it as the chef is the professional.
The only thing I ask for on the side is my salad dressing so my salad isn't one lump of wilted veggies. UGH!
Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2008, 06:07:48 PM
Explain again how this is a mindfuck?
Correction. Jake.
Nazi! :lulz:
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on June 26, 2008, 03:35:45 AM
Get the fucking sauce.
or don't get the fucking sauce.
I don't care.
but I will pull your eyeball out with a pair of tongs, batter it, deep fry it, and serve it with horseradish sauce the next time you order your fucking sauce on the fucking side.
enjoy your meal.
Fuck you.
Quote from: The Reverend Asshat on June 26, 2008, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2008, 06:07:48 PM
Explain again how this is a mindfuck?
Correction. Jake.
Nazi! :lulz:
I'd just label it "Being an ass at an eatery for kicks".
Honestly better fun with a SLIGHTLY snooty joint.
Quote from: Nigel on June 26, 2008, 09:38:58 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on June 26, 2008, 03:35:45 AM
Get the fucking sauce.
or don't get the fucking sauce.
I don't care.
but I will pull your eyeball out with a pair of tongs, batter it, deep fry it, and serve it with horseradish sauce the next time you order your fucking sauce on the fucking side.
enjoy your meal.
Fuck you.
:lol:
Quote from: Richter on June 26, 2008, 10:22:02 PM
Quote from: The Reverend Asshat on June 26, 2008, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2008, 06:07:48 PM
Explain again how this is a mindfuck?
Correction. Jake.
Nazi! :lulz:
I'd just label it "Being an ass at an eatery for kicks".
Honestly better fun with a SLIGHTLY snooty joint.
Why don't you kids go back to the clubhouse? \
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/625/ferrispb0.jpg)
I JUST WATCHED THAT TODAY! Ferris, one of the bestest cinematic jakers of the 80's!
That's one of my favourite scenes. "Call the police... this'll be a hoot!"
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on June 26, 2008, 03:35:45 AM
Get the fucking sauce.
or don't get the fucking sauce.
I don't care.
but I will pull your eyeball out with a pair of tongs, batter it, deep fry it, and serve it with horseradish sauce the next time you order your fucking sauce on the fucking side.
enjoy your meal.
Beats the fairy stag grilled in the fat of infernal boars who hound the enemies of the Raven King (or whatever, strange & mr. norrel by susanna clarke)
Hey ECH, can I have my sauce on the side please?
I'd like to shmear it all over my chest and face.
kthx.
ECH has a very special sauce for that kind of thing.
With a convenient delivery system, as well.
Quote from: Squiddy on June 27, 2008, 05:19:49 PM
Hey ECH, can I have my sauce on the side please?
I'd like to shmear it all over my chest and face.
kthx.
that's fine, just order extra sauce to go.
it's funnier to do in front of the waiter with that dead look in your eye
I almost never order anything on the side. I'm not especially picky. However, IMO people are completely reasonable to want their food in whatever configuration they fucking want, as long as it's not some sort of major inconvenience for the staff.
People's tastes vary. Perhaps Joe HATES your fucking sauce but Joe's date loves it. I have a friend who asks for the tomatoes on the side, because I want them. Maybe Joe wants to dip his fucking fries in it. Why the hell do you care? He's paying your snooty ass to cook him some food that he likes, are you seriously all butthurt because he has his own tastes when it comes to how he'd like it served?
skip the plate.
i'd like my dinner on my lap please.
hot steaming crotch food!!!
wait......
EEW!
I usually don't like to ask special requests on menu items because I feel like I'm being a bother, and that the chef will drag me back to the kitchen and shove my face into the deep fryer.
But I will order moar sauce, because I'm that kind of gal. :oops:
I usually order my salad dressing on the side, because people always put too much on, then never use it at all.
RBOG,
doesn't like goopy leafs
Yeah, what is up with the sheer massive load of salad dressing most places serve? I can barely even taste the veggies with that much shit on them. Always on the side.
Also, it is a massive irritant to me when people assume I'm getting the dressing on the side because I'm a girl and therefore dieting, and then make some retarded sarcastic comment like "Oh, yeah, that's gonna offset the burger with cheese and bacon!"
JUST FUCK OFF! Retards.
Naw, just smile sweetly and say, "Yes, especially since I'm ordering A SIDE OF BACON RANCH to go with my FRENCH FRIES!"
People are definitely retarded.
I'm too lazy to build my food when I eat it so it's rare I'll order something "on the side". Plus I like salad dressing and IMO building and tossing my own food is not worth the 10 calories I'll be saving because I eat a tiny bit less dressing.
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 02, 2008, 04:33:13 AM
I'm too lazy to build my food when I eat it so it's rare I'll order something "on the side". Plus I like salad dressing and IMO building and tossing my own food is not worth the 10 calories I'll be saving because I eat a tiny bit less dressing.
So you'll just let
the establishment put however much dressing they damn well please on your salad, and you'll
eat it without the slightest bit of protest?
Why do you hate freedom?!
i usually get my dressing on the side so i can dip my salad in it.
yes you heard me.
i pick the shit up w/ my bloody filthy hands and dip it into the dressing.
i also can't eat food that touches.
ex- taters touching coleslaw, the touching parts don't get eaten.
yes. i'm an asshole. whatever.
Quote from: Nigel on June 30, 2008, 10:16:33 PM
I almost never order anything on the side. I'm not especially picky. However, IMO people are completely reasonable to want their food in whatever configuration they fucking want, as long as it's not some sort of major inconvenience for the staff.
People's tastes vary. Perhaps Joe HATES your fucking sauce but Joe's date loves it. I have a friend who asks for the tomatoes on the side, because I want them. Maybe Joe wants to dip his fucking fries in it. Why the hell do you care? He's paying your snooty ass to cook him some food that he likes, are you seriously all butthurt because he has his own tastes when it comes to how he'd like it served?
yes. he should cook at home.
Also, Sauce =/= Dressing.
Quote from: Nigel on July 01, 2008, 09:14:51 PM
Also, it is a massive irritant to me when people assume I'm getting the dressing on the side because I'm a girl and therefore dieting, and then make some retarded sarcastic comment like "Oh, yeah, that's gonna offset the burger with cheese and bacon!"
JUST FUCK OFF! Retards.
I usually order extra dressing on the side.
<------- disgusting
The stuff cooks flip out about cracks me up.
My roommate used to be a waiter, and was constantly hearing it from the cooks.
"Swiss cheese instead of American," he'd say. The reply would be a chorus of groans and sighs and rolling eyes and "JESUS are you giving them a different menu?? Maybe that they think swiss cheese is on the menu. Tell them to order off the menu."
I guess they do have a reputation to uphold. Never seen anything more amusing than reading some of the threads on the culinary boards where my ex #2 posts, watching the chefs get into a prima-donna fight.
Yes, I was MARRIED to a chef. :( The overwhelming reaction of HIS friends, when we got divorced, was "OMG I can't believe you put up with that asshole for so long!"
We're friends, now. He's totally fun to hang out with, but holy shit. Chefs are so temperamental. Also he went back to school for a degree in geography, and then managed a restaurant, and now he's regional manager of a drugstore chain. I do not understand his career path.
Quote from: Cainad on July 02, 2008, 04:53:37 AM
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 02, 2008, 04:33:13 AM
I'm too lazy to build my food when I eat it so it's rare I'll order something "on the side". Plus I like salad dressing and IMO building and tossing my own food is not worth the 10 calories I'll be saving because I eat a tiny bit less dressing.
So you'll just let the establishment put however much dressing they damn well please on your salad, and you'll eat it without the slightest bit of protest?
Why do you hate freedom?!
because I'm a terrorist :lulz: and not only am I a terrorist, I'm a salad dressing/sauce loving terrorist, which we all know is the worst kind. :evil:
Sjaantze, Harbinger of Distraction, almost ALWAYS orders special. It doesn't matter if we're at a 5 star restaurant or Taco Bell. The number of times that this had ended poorly for everyone concerned is beyond counting. Of course, even when she orders off the menu, they fuck up her order... I think her special orders have created bad restaurant karma.
Quote from: Nigel on July 02, 2008, 06:41:29 PM
I guess they do have a reputation to uphold. Never seen anything more amusing than reading some of the threads on the culinary boards where my ex #2 posts, watching the chefs get into a prima-donna fight.
Yes, I was MARRIED to a chef. :( The overwhelming reaction of HIS friends, when we got divorced, was "OMG I can't believe you put up with that asshole for so long!"
We're friends, now. He's totally fun to hang out with, but holy shit. Chefs are so temperamental. Also he went back to school for a degree in geography, and then managed a restaurant, and now he's regional manager of a drugstore chain. I do not understand his career path.
A chefs ass is on the line every single day they go to work. How would you like to try to perfectly please a hundred people a night all with different tastes?
unless theres one ingredient i absolutely hate i never change anything because i dont want chefs in the back spitting on my food in anger :(
I hate lettuce, tomatoes, onions, and pickles on my burgers so I usually just order them with the bun, sauce, meat, and cheese.
I rarely order anything special, partly because I don't want to be a pain in the ass, and partly because I think they'll just screw it up. If there's an ingredient I don't like, I don't order the dish. Or I just take it out after I've been served. Half the time, it just doesn't occur to me that you can order things specially. :roll:
Also, I dated a guy who was going to culinary school at the time...and the stories he'd tell...chefs aren't always just tempermental. I never realized what a high pressure job it was til then. But damn. I should've gotten his recipe for artichoke chicken before we split.
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 03, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
I hate lettuce, tomatoes, onions, and pickles on my burgers so I usually just order them with the bun, sauce, meat, and cheese.
:?
Quote from: triple zero on July 03, 2008, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 03, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
I hate lettuce, tomatoes, onions, and pickles on my burgers so I usually just order them with the bun, sauce, meat, and cheese.
:?
I know, I'm super lame and boring. I eat my sandwiches the same way, without the produce. Plus, I hate onions, tomatoes, and pickles in general.
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 04, 2008, 05:56:22 AM
Quote from: triple zero on July 03, 2008, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 03, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
I hate lettuce, tomatoes, onions, and pickles on my burgers so I usually just order them with the bun, sauce, meat, and cheese.
:?
I know, I'm super lame and boring. I eat my sandwiches the same way, without the produce. Plus, I hate onions, tomatoes, and pickles in general.
are you allergic or do you just need to train your culinary senses somewhat?
in the second case, GET TO IT there's a WORLD of flavours awaiting you, you don't know half of it. break those culinary black iron prison bars, young lady!
The Black Iron Bars of American White Girl's culinary tastes are actually made out of tempered steel. They are remarkably wimpy when it comes to trying food that has flavor.
I love 'em anyway :lol:
Cainad,
Not actually that much of a jerk
Quote from: triple zero on July 04, 2008, 08:20:41 AM
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 04, 2008, 05:56:22 AM
Quote from: triple zero on July 03, 2008, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 03, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
I hate lettuce, tomatoes, onions, and pickles on my burgers so I usually just order them with the bun, sauce, meat, and cheese.
:?
I know, I'm super lame and boring. I eat my sandwiches the same way, without the produce. Plus, I hate onions, tomatoes, and pickles in general.
are you allergic or do you just need to train your culinary senses somewhat?
in the second case, GET TO IT there's a WORLD of flavours awaiting you, you don't know half of it. break those culinary black iron prison bars, young lady!
I just don't like them. Tomatoes are fine in sauces, and onions as onion rings or onion blossoms, but I don't like them in "pieces" or whole. Don't like bell peppers either. :p
Quote from: CainadThe Black Iron Bars of American White Girl's culinary tastes are actually made out of tempered steel. They are remarkably wimpy when it comes to trying food that has flavor.
I love 'em anyway lol
Cainad,
Not actually that much of a jerk
:lol:
*super wimpy*
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 04, 2008, 08:35:40 AM
Quote from: triple zero on July 04, 2008, 08:20:41 AM
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 04, 2008, 05:56:22 AM
Quote from: triple zero on July 03, 2008, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 03, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
I hate lettuce, tomatoes, onions, and pickles on my burgers so I usually just order them with the bun, sauce, meat, and cheese.
:?
I know, I'm super lame and boring. I eat my sandwiches the same way, without the produce. Plus, I hate onions, tomatoes, and pickles in general.
are you allergic or do you just need to train your culinary senses somewhat?
in the second case, GET TO IT there's a WORLD of flavours awaiting you, you don't know half of it. break those culinary black iron prison bars, young lady!
I just don't like them. Tomatoes are fine in sauces, and onions as onion rings or onion blossoms, but I don't like them in "pieces" or whole. Don't like bell peppers either. :p
asparagus?
Quote from: Cainad on July 04, 2008, 08:33:37 AM
The Black Iron Bars of American White Girl's culinary tastes are actually made out of tempered steel. They are remarkably wimpy when it comes to trying food that has flavor.
I love 'em anyway :lol:
Cainad,
Not actually that much of a jerk
hey now, i like my food with flavor :sad:
Quote from: Squiddy on July 04, 2008, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: Cainad on July 04, 2008, 08:33:37 AM
The Black Iron Bars of American White Girl's culinary tastes are actually made out of tempered steel. They are remarkably wimpy when it comes to trying food that has flavor.
I love 'em anyway :lol:
Cainad,
Not actually that much of a jerk
hey now, i like my food with flavor :sad:
Yeah, but you're rather extraordinary. I mean, you're the keeper of the Santa Cupcake, for crying out loud. Er, not that you would eat that...
Quote from: The Reverend Asshat on July 03, 2008, 12:47:09 AM
Quote from: Nigel on July 02, 2008, 06:41:29 PM
I guess they do have a reputation to uphold. Never seen anything more amusing than reading some of the threads on the culinary boards where my ex #2 posts, watching the chefs get into a prima-donna fight.
Yes, I was MARRIED to a chef. :( The overwhelming reaction of HIS friends, when we got divorced, was "OMG I can't believe you put up with that asshole for so long!"
We're friends, now. He's totally fun to hang out with, but holy shit. Chefs are so temperamental. Also he went back to school for a degree in geography, and then managed a restaurant, and now he's regional manager of a drugstore chain. I do not understand his career path.
A chefs ass is on the line every single day they go to work. How would you like to try to perfectly please a hundred people a night all with different tastes?
What does that have to do with anything?
Quote from: triple zero on July 04, 2008, 09:15:21 AM
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 04, 2008, 08:35:40 AM
Quote from: triple zero on July 04, 2008, 08:20:41 AM
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 04, 2008, 05:56:22 AM
Quote from: triple zero on July 03, 2008, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: Dysnomia on July 03, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
I hate lettuce, tomatoes, onions, and pickles on my burgers so I usually just order them with the bun, sauce, meat, and cheese.
:?
I know, I'm super lame and boring. I eat my sandwiches the same way, without the produce. Plus, I hate onions, tomatoes, and pickles in general.
are you allergic or do you just need to train your culinary senses somewhat?
in the second case, GET TO IT there's a WORLD of flavours awaiting you, you don't know half of it. break those culinary black iron prison bars, young lady!
I just don't like them. Tomatoes are fine in sauces, and onions as onion rings or onion blossoms, but I don't like them in "pieces" or whole. Don't like bell peppers either. :p
asparagus?
YUM! Artichokes are also NOM
I mean, I've been a line cook, but it didn't make me an insufferable girlfriend.
Basically, I eat anything. Not like those canned worms from Vietnam, but pretty much anything. Not picky, not allergic to anything except very fresh eggs, salmon, and honeydew, and like to try new flavors and textures.
But I won't go to a restaurant where I have even an inkling that the staff will treat us poorly because my best friend is dangerously allergic to tree nuts and bivalves. Yes, it means that she has to ask about EVERY SINGLE DISH, and it means that sometimes she has to ask them to cobble something together from elements of different menu items. If there is a hint of exasperation or annoyance, we leave. Luckily, 90% of Portland restaurants are incredibly accommodating of diners with special dietary preferences/requirements, and those who aren't can fuck off and die.
I know what you mean Nigel. In highschool, one of the girls on x-country with me was deathly allergic to dairy products. She was so allergic that she brought food with her everywhere with her (we went to hawaii once and she had to pack a cooler full of her special milk, and other food). Every time she goes to a restaurant they have to use separate pans for her because if they even use a dish that has had a dairy product in it, she'll die. :x
As a general comment, the suppressed annoyance in the average restaurant kitchen will make whoever learns to convert it into electricity a very rich person. Its hot, its sweaty, people KEEP TELLING YOU TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY, the serving staff keep dropping things and complaining. At the end of a long shift, the average chef can punch through sheet steel.
But unless the dishes are all pre-prepared (for a large set order, or something), it shouldnt be a huge deal where you want your sauce.
Wait, what does food allergies have to do with asking for your sauce on the side?
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 06:36:53 PM
Wait, what does food allergies have to do with asking for your sauce on the side?
I think the issue at hand is asking the restaurant, and particularly the chefs/cooks, to do something other than what is very specifically laid out by the menu.
What I got from the OP was entirely different:
In a decent restaraunt (no, Chili's doesn't count), a good amount of time is spent by the chef in designing a sauce that both compliments and elevates the dish it is paired with. The dish is the sum of it's parts, and that is the way the food is intended to be served.
To ask for the sauce on the side is like asking Van Gogh to scrape away some of the excess paint that's built up on the canvas; sure, the overall picture won't change very much, but the subtlety is ruined.
Of course, it's fairly obvious that the majority of people posting in this thread have never had a meal where the entree wasn't over $12.99, so I can't expect most of you to understand this.
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 08:13:45 PM
What I got from the OP was entirely different:
In a decent restaraunt (no, Chili's doesn't count), a good amount of time is spent by the chef in designing a sauce that both compliments and elevates the dish it is paired with. The dish is the sum of it's parts, and that is the way the food is intended to be served.
To ask for the sauce on the side is like asking Van Gogh to scrape away some of the excess paint that's built up on the canvas; sure, the overall picture won't change very much, but the subtlety is ruined.
Of course, it's fairly obvious that the majority of people posting in this thread have never had a meal where the entree wasn't over $12.99, so I can't expect most of you to understand this.
ITT LMNO sells out, stops being punk rock, turns into classist snob. :lol:
-DC
has in fact had the occasional entree that fits that description. died many foodgasm deaths from it, too. mmmmm food.
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 08:13:45 PM
What I got from the OP was entirely different:
In a decent restaraunt (no, Chili's doesn't count), a good amount of time is spent by the chef in designing a sauce that both compliments and elevates the dish it is paired with. The dish is the sum of it's parts, and that is the way the food is intended to be served.
To ask for the sauce on the side is like asking Van Gogh to scrape away some of the excess paint that's built up on the canvas; sure, the overall picture won't change very much, but the subtlety is ruined.
Of course, it's fairly obvious that the majority of people posting in this thread have never had a meal where the entree wasn't over $12.99, so I can't expect most of you to understand this.
Good point. I suppose I should have said that the issue that was forcibly
put at hand by irate people ITT was the issue of asking grumpy, overworked cooks to change their routine.
The issue presented in the OP, however, is more akin to what you say here.
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 06:36:53 PM
Wait, what does food allergies have to do with asking for your sauce on the side?
If there's any kind of attitude about doing ANYthing custom with the dish, it's not a safe place to eat.
Also, sometimes my friend orders whatever she's allergic to on the side so me or her boyfriend can have it. The chef doesn't know why someone orders the sauce on the side.
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 08:13:45 PM
What I got from the OP was entirely different:
In a decent restaraunt (no, Chili's doesn't count), a good amount of time is spent by the chef in designing a sauce that both compliments and elevates the dish it is paired with. The dish is the sum of it's parts, and that is the way the food is intended to be served.
To ask for the sauce on the side is like asking Van Gogh to scrape away some of the excess paint that's built up on the canvas; sure, the overall picture won't change very much, but the subtlety is ruined.
Of course, it's fairly obvious that the majority of people posting in this thread have never had a meal where the entree wasn't over $12.99, so I can't expect most of you to understand this.
Where do you get food where the entree is under $13? A burrito cart?
I don't give a flying fuck if the chef thinks his sublime creation is a work of goddamn epic art, nor does it matter how much I paid for it; in the end I'm going to shit it out anyway.
I have eaten at many restaurants where I felt the food was truly gorgeous in every possible way. I have also eaten at many restaurants where something is too salty, too bland, overseasoned, heavy on the rosemary, whatever. I have also eaten at restaurants where some of my party loved something just as it was, and others felt it needed improvement.
You can't cook to everyone's tastes and needs. You just can't. I realize that chefs have a lot of ego wrapped up in their creations, and that's a positive thing on one angle, but if it gives them an attitude when it comes to accommodating the needs and preferences of individual customers, maybe they need to switch to designing recipes for frozen food.
A restaurant where I pick up on a bad attitude is one I won't eat at again, or recommend to friends.
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 08:13:45 PM
To ask for the sauce on the side is like asking Van Gogh to scrape away some of the excess paint that's built up on the canvas; sure, the overall picture won't change very much, but the subtlety is ruined.
To stay in the simile, Van Gogh sold one picture in his lifetime. He did not paint to make money.
Chefs, I assume, do want to make money(if only to survive).
Don't misinterprete that, I understand that sometimes the stupidity and lack of finesse of customers stresses the fuck out of people who love what they do; happens to me often enough. :argh!:
But, seriously, what do you care if they are a bunch of sauce-on-the-side-loving freaks (for whatever reasons)? They are happy, you get paid, and you know that they are missing out the full enjoyment you could have provided.
I just assume that people who are willing to pay a lot of money to eat at a good restaurant either know anyway that the sauce belongs where the chef wants it to ( and have a good reason for ordering on the side ), or are just there to burn some money and probably wouldn't taste the difference anyway.
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 08:13:45 PM
What I got from the OP was entirely different:
In a decent restaraunt (no, Chili's doesn't count), a good amount of time is spent by the chef in designing a sauce that both compliments and elevates the dish it is paired with. The dish is the sum of it's parts, and that is the way the food is intended to be served.
To ask for the sauce on the side is like asking Van Gogh to scrape away some of the excess paint that's built up on the canvas; sure, the overall picture won't change very much, but the subtlety is ruined.
Of course, it's fairly obvious that the majority of people posting in this thread have never had a meal where the entree wasn't over $12.99, so I can't expect most of you to understand this.
this was pretty much exactly my point in my first post, ITT.
What if I ask for extra sauce on the side?
HEATHEN :argh!:
MY GOD DISCORDIANS ARE DISAGREEING WITH EACH OTHER LEFT AND RIGHT ON THIS FUCKING BOARD
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE WORLD COMING TO
FUCK
So that's a no? :x
Here's what really burns me
it's when I make some beads, and some FUCKWAD has the UNTHINKABLE AUDACITY to email me and ask for similar beads IN A DIFFERENT COLOR. I made them in that color because I am the ARTIST and THAT IS the COLOR THEY LOOK BEST IN, fucking mouthbreathing FUCKTARDS! The next time some UNDISCRIMINATING ASSHOLE asks me to make similar beads in a different color I am going to fly to where they live, cut them a second asshole, and JAM THE MOTHERFUCKING BEADS INTO THEIR BLEEDING COLON. I hope they enjoy them.
Actually, having said that, I do fully support ECH's use of this board to vent about frustrations he can't really vent at work. I do not mean to say that I don't think this is a good place to blow off steam; quite the contrary. Vent away, ECH; I assume you do it here because you really CAN'T do it in the kitchen, and I appreciate that.
Motherfucking sauce on the side wanting bitches.
QuoteOf course, it's fairly obvious that the majority of people posting in this thread have never had a meal where the entree wasn't over $12.99, so I can't expect most of you to understand this.
dude hey whoa.
what?
you're talking to someone who chose to go to new york for her honeymoon
mostly because mario batali and masaharu morimoto have restaurants there.
i may live in a podunk town with no culture other than the bacterial kind, but i have tastebuds.
i wouldn't ask the chef at either of those places to change a damn thing on the plate, but i know good food man.
ps- this statement sounds like a defensive bitch rant but it's not intended that way
I think he was saying we all snobs who never et no po' food.
Not totally sure, but that's what I THINK he meant.
I mean that in a positive way, not a derogatory way
I mean, look at me.
It's amazing that even when you explicitly use E-Prime, there will be at least one person who thinks "some" means "all," or "you".
In this case, one of each.
LMNO, WHY ARE YUO TRYING TO BE RATATOSK? HE'S BETTER AT IT.
QuoteOf course, it's fairly obvious that the majority of people posting in this thread have never had a meal where the entree wasn't over $12.99, so I can't expect most of you to understand this.
Where's your E-Prime now, mofo?! I'm seeing absolutes and conjugations of the verb "to be" in there.
Cainad,
Obnoxious little twit
Quote from: Cainad on July 09, 2008, 02:46:50 PM
Obnoxious little twit
I'm glad you didn't see the need to qualify
that.
I'll admit, I've rarely paid more than 9$ for a meal. But, then again, I live in fucking Maine. It's not exactly a hub of culinary experiences. ECH's restaurant excluded of course. :D
:mullet:
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yall has tu fergive my igernance sometimes.
i do has a suthern edukayshun so i dont always understand all the explerlitatives and conjugatorlies of sintinses n stuff. m'kay.
Just what I expected from a chick from Florida.
I never eat at restaurants :(
But if I did, I wouldn't order the sauce on the side. I would probably just ask for something that sounded good, and ask for it to be prepared in whatever way the chef wanted.
Food poisoning, here we come :p (I JOKE, I JOKE!)
Quote from: Cainad on July 07, 2008, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 06:36:53 PM
Wait, what does food allergies have to do with asking for your sauce on the side?
I think the issue at hand is asking the restaurant, and particularly the chefs/cooks, to do something other than what is very specifically laid out by the menu.
you think incorrectly.
the issue is asking for the fucking sauce on the side. don't ask for the fucking sauce on the fucking side.
frankly, I could give a shit what you do with your salad or your burger. but when you order the fucking tournedos of beef that I get shipped up from our dedicated dry-aging room at Kinneally Meats in Boston, or the fresh lobster ravioli, or the goddamned 2" thick center cut lamb chops, DO NOT ORDER THE SAUCE ON THE FUCKING SIDE.
Quote from: Nigel on July 08, 2008, 06:28:38 PM
Actually, having said that, I do fully support ECH's use of this board to vent about frustrations he can't really vent at work. I do not mean to say that I don't think this is a good place to blow off steam; quite the contrary. Vent away, ECH; I assume you do it here because you really CAN'T do it in the kitchen, and I appreciate that.
Motherfucking sauce on the side wanting bitches.
thank you for understanding.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 09, 2008, 05:17:47 PM
Quote from: Cainad on July 07, 2008, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 06:36:53 PM
Wait, what does food allergies have to do with asking for your sauce on the side?
I think the issue at hand is asking the restaurant, and particularly the chefs/cooks, to do something other than what is very specifically laid out by the menu.
you think incorrectly.
I gotta be me. :p
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 09, 2008, 05:17:47 PM
Quote from: Cainad on July 07, 2008, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 06:36:53 PM
Wait, what does food allergies have to do with asking for your sauce on the side?
I think the issue at hand is asking the restaurant, and particularly the chefs/cooks, to do something other than what is very specifically laid out by the menu.
you think incorrectly.
the issue is asking for the fucking sauce on the side. don't ask for the fucking sauce on the fucking side.
frankly, I could give a shit what you do with your salad or your burger. but when you order the fucking tournedos of beef that I get shipped up from our dedicated dry-aging room at Kinneally Meats in Boston, or the fresh lobster ravioli, or the goddamned 2" thick center cut lamb chops, DO NOT ORDER THE SAUCE ON THE FUCKING SIDE.
Not even EXTRA sauce on the side?
Quote from: LMNO on July 09, 2008, 03:49:29 PM
Just what I expected from a chick from Florida.
:argh!:
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 06:36:53 PM
Wait, what does food allergies have to do with asking for your sauce on the side?
It can be everything really, cream sauces? People who are lactose intolerant are allergic to those, and sometimes the dish can be just as appropriate with the sauce on the side (so someone else can dip in it). That's just one kind of allergy, there are also glutens which may or may not be present in a certain type of sauce (there was a boy at preschool who couldn't even touch them because they would eat away at his internal organs o.o), not to mention every kind of allergy under the sun. Some people are allergic to weird shit, I risk a cold sore every time I have anything with any kind of citric acid in it (like lemon, orange, lime, anything tart really). It's not life threatening, but it's kinda annoying, and sometimes painful to deal with.
and LOL most of my food costs more than $12.99 when I go out to eat, and I've been to some really REALLY nice places for dinner.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 09, 2008, 05:17:47 PM
Quote from: Cainad on July 07, 2008, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 06:36:53 PM
Wait, what does food allergies have to do with asking for your sauce on the side?
I think the issue at hand is asking the restaurant, and particularly the chefs/cooks, to do something other than what is very specifically laid out by the menu.
you think incorrectly.
the issue is asking for the fucking sauce on the side. don't ask for the fucking sauce on the fucking side.
frankly, I could give a shit what you do with your salad or your burger. but when you order the fucking tournedos of beef that I get shipped up from our dedicated dry-aging room at Kinneally Meats in Boston, or the fresh lobster ravioli, or the goddamned 2" thick center cut lamb chops, DO NOT ORDER THE SAUCE ON THE FUCKING SIDE.
Goddamn, all of that sounds good. I would not get sauce on the side.
Quote from: Roo on July 10, 2008, 01:15:56 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 09, 2008, 05:17:47 PM
Quote from: Cainad on July 07, 2008, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 06:36:53 PM
Wait, what does food allergies have to do with asking for your sauce on the side?
I think the issue at hand is asking the restaurant, and particularly the chefs/cooks, to do something other than what is very specifically laid out by the menu.
you think incorrectly.
the issue is asking for the fucking sauce on the side. don't ask for the fucking sauce on the fucking side.
frankly, I could give a shit what you do with your salad or your burger. but when you order the fucking tournedos of beef that I get shipped up from our dedicated dry-aging room at Kinneally Meats in Boston, or the fresh lobster ravioli, or the goddamned 2" thick center cut lamb chops, DO NOT ORDER THE SAUCE ON THE FUCKING SIDE.
Not even EXTRA sauce on the side?
I guess extra is OK. it's just not letting me put it on there at all that I have a problem with. and as far as allergies go: sorry, charlie, but if you've got a food allergy, ORDER SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T CONTAIN WHAT YOU'RE ALLERGIC TO. I'm pretty sensitive to that sort of thing (in a professional sense) and am often willing to go out of my way to make an off-the-menu dish to allergen-avoiding specifications if given advance notice. But don't walk in in the middle of a dinner rush and ask me to "make this one with no flour/onion/fish/milk/whatever". I've probably pre-prepared those dishes to the point where asking me that requires me to grab the raw ingredients and make one from scratch on the fly, and that really chaps my ass.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 10, 2008, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: Roo on July 10, 2008, 01:15:56 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 09, 2008, 05:17:47 PM
Quote from: Cainad on July 07, 2008, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2008, 06:36:53 PM
Wait, what does food allergies have to do with asking for your sauce on the side?
I think the issue at hand is asking the restaurant, and particularly the chefs/cooks, to do something other than what is very specifically laid out by the menu.
you think incorrectly.
the issue is asking for the fucking sauce on the side. don't ask for the fucking sauce on the fucking side.
frankly, I could give a shit what you do with your salad or your burger. but when you order the fucking tournedos of beef that I get shipped up from our dedicated dry-aging room at Kinneally Meats in Boston, or the fresh lobster ravioli, or the goddamned 2" thick center cut lamb chops, DO NOT ORDER THE SAUCE ON THE FUCKING SIDE.
Not even EXTRA sauce on the side?
I guess extra is OK. it's just not letting me put it on there at all that I have a problem with. and as far as allergies go: sorry, charlie, but if you've got a food allergy, ORDER SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T CONTAIN WHAT YOU'RE ALLERGIC TO. I'm pretty sensitive to that sort of thing (in a professional sense) and am often willing to go out of my way to make an off-the-menu dish to allergen-avoiding specifications if given advance notice. But don't walk in in the middle of a dinner rush and ask me to "make this one with no flour/onion/fish/milk/whatever". I've probably pre-prepared those dishes to the point where asking me that requires me to grab the raw ingredients and make one from scratch on the fly, and that really chaps my ass.
I think that's why people with food allergies just ask for the allergen-containing portion to not be touching the rest of it, if it's something that can reasonably just be put on a separate dish.
Most people, hanging out with their friends, don't plan that far ahead. They go "huh, what do you guys want to do for dinner?" and then there's a bit of brainstorming, and then "Hey I know, that one place! Do you think they'll have something you can eat?"
"Sure, probably... most places have SOMETHING I can eat, even if it means getting it without sauce or whatever."
"Oh, if you do that, can I have your sauce?"
Usually I get slapped when I ask my wife for her sauce in a restaurant.
Quote from: Reverend Whats His Name on July 10, 2008, 07:40:19 PM
Usually I get slapped when I ask my wife for her sauce in a restaurant.
Wow, public S&M?!
Quote from: Reverend Whats His Name on July 10, 2008, 07:40:19 PM
Usually I get slapped when I ask my wife for her sauce in a restaurant.
does she slap you on the side, though?
Quote from: triple zero on July 10, 2008, 08:45:53 PM
Quote from: Reverend Whats His Name on July 10, 2008, 07:40:19 PM
Usually I get slapped when I ask my wife for her sauce in a restaurant.
does she slap you on the side, though?
Yes, but she always refuses my requests for extra. Tease.
Quote from: Reverend Whats His Name on July 10, 2008, 08:52:28 PM
Quote from: triple zero on July 10, 2008, 08:45:53 PM
Quote from: Reverend Whats His Name on July 10, 2008, 07:40:19 PM
Usually I get slapped when I ask my wife for her sauce in a restaurant.
does she slap you on the side, though?
Yes, but she always refuses my requests for extra. Tease.
That covers the sauce.... But what about the dressing?
French, naturally.
She generally doesn't like me talking about or paying attention to the buns. Which I cannot understand because I find them quite scrumptious. Okay, I, uh, think I need to go, uh... :fap:
Quote from: Reverend Whats His Name on July 10, 2008, 07:40:19 PM
Usually I get slapped when I ask my wife for her sauce in a restaurant.
well she should! You are in a public place for pete's sake!!!