I was thinking of taking on issue five, and basing it loosely around the Law of Fives, and the different ways it can be interpreted.
Thoughts?
Good idea.
I like it!
I think that's a good topic
but what happened to issue #4?
I thought someone else had already started it? No?
Either way, I am going to be very busy for the next month, and so can't take on 4... but 5 seems likely. Plus, I like 5.
I see now that there doesn't seem to be a thread for issue 4... I don't quite know why I thought there was.
Would it be amusing to skip an issue and yet pretend it actually existed? We could make fake letters to the editor complaining about how offensive the issue was, etc.
In one of the other threads Enki*&^&* said something about there being an issue devoted to something and I suggested he do it. But I think he is non-committal at this point.
We could always skip #4 and go right to #5.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2008, 04:50:47 PM
In one of the other threads Enki*&^&* said something about there being an issue devoted to something and I suggested he do it. But I think he is non-committal at this point.
We could always skip #4 and go right to #5.
Better yet, we can start naming ALL issues on some variant of 5. For example, Hoopla's issue could be called "Intermittens Volume I: Issue 5." Then the next person could do "Intermittens Volume II: Issue 5," until we eventually have to have "Intermittens Volume 23: Issue 5, v.5.0 (Fifth Edition)."
Or, we could just skip issue 4, which is also funny, and probably not as stupid as what I just suggested.
I like both ideas actually. Can they be combined?
You're the editor, it's your call.
True, but that seems to encompass the rest of the issues as well, not just my issue.
I can't think of a good place to post this request, but is it possible to create a thread and have it stickied, and to use that thread as the main Intermittens thread? I'm able to navigate through the Intermittens threads right now, but I'm guessing when we start getting more issues churned out and there are a lot more "Intermittens Submissions" threads floating around, it might get hard finding where the main contribution thread is. Also, it would be nice to have links to the older issues compiled into one thread so that when the old threads get pushed under the rug in the archives, it is still easy to find older issues.
Just a thought.
Quote from: Manta Obscura on December 18, 2008, 06:41:52 PM
I can't think of a good place to post this request, but is it possible to create a thread and have it stickied, and to use that thread as the main Intermittens thread? I'm able to navigate through the Intermittens threads right now, but I'm guessing when we start getting more issues churned out and there are a lot more "Intermittens Submissions" threads floating around, it might get hard finding where the main contribution thread is. Also, it would be nice to have links to the older issues compiled into one thread so that when the old threads get pushed under the rug in the archives, it is still easy to find older issues.
Just a thought.
I created a page at the BIP wiki with links to the Intermittens issues. www.blackironprison.com I will update it as they come out.
Also, #3 is the one in the works currently. Maybe someone can sticky that thread until it is completed.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2008, 06:46:03 PM
I created a page at the BIP wiki with links to the Intermittens issues. www.blackironprison.com I will update it as they come out.
:mittens:
Quote from: HOOPLA on December 18, 2008, 05:53:48 PM
I like both ideas actually. Can they be combined?
color me bland, but I'd prefer the issues to be numbered sequentially. It will be much less confusing down the line, especially when we have over 10 issues. Is it really much of a mindfuck to confuse ourselves by having randomly numbered issues or a bunch of issue 5s? Keep it Simple!
Fair enough.
Ok, I will start combing the old threads for anything related to the Law of Fives... if anyone has anything they've written, or knows something written on the subject, or would like to write something on the subject, please post it in this thread.
Quote from: Cramulus on December 18, 2008, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2008, 06:46:03 PM
I created a page at the BIP wiki with links to the Intermittens issues. www.blackironprison.com I will update it as they come out.
:mittens:
Quote from: HOOPLA on December 18, 2008, 05:53:48 PM
I like both ideas actually. Can they be combined?
color me bland, but I'd prefer the issues to be numbered sequentially. It will be much less confusing down the line, especially when we have over 10 issues. Is it really much of a mindfuck to confuse ourselves by having randomly numbered issues or a bunch of issue 5s? Keep it Simple!
We could always put the date of release on the covers.
it would seem that would be a big clue as to what came out when.
Quote from: Fuquad on December 18, 2008, 09:03:09 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 18, 2008, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2008, 06:46:03 PM
I created a page at the BIP wiki with links to the Intermittens issues. www.blackironprison.com I will update it as they come out.
:mittens:
Quote from: HOOPLA on December 18, 2008, 05:53:48 PM
I like both ideas actually. Can they be combined?
color me bland, but I'd prefer the issues to be numbered sequentially. It will be much less confusing down the line, especially when we have over 10 issues. Is it really much of a mindfuck to confuse ourselves by having randomly numbered issues or a bunch of issue 5s? Keep it Simple!
We could always put the date of release on the covers.
it would seem that would be a big clue as to what came out when.
Not really.
Since it's not on a regular publication schedule, it's not like a reader could just look at it and go, "oh, #23 is the April/May 2009 issue, and since I already have the February/March and June/July issues, I know my collection is complete".
So I guess you'd have to decide whether it matters if it's hard for people to tell, down the road, whether they've read all the issues.
It seems too difficult, and to be honest I'm just happy that the Intermittens project is even happening. Let's forget it and just press forward.
Quote from: The Rabid Badger of God on December 18, 2008, 09:40:28 PM
Quote from: Fuquad on December 18, 2008, 09:03:09 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 18, 2008, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2008, 06:46:03 PM
I created a page at the BIP wiki with links to the Intermittens issues. www.blackironprison.com I will update it as they come out.
:mittens:
Quote from: HOOPLA on December 18, 2008, 05:53:48 PM
I like both ideas actually. Can they be combined?
color me bland, but I'd prefer the issues to be numbered sequentially. It will be much less confusing down the line, especially when we have over 10 issues. Is it really much of a mindfuck to confuse ourselves by having randomly numbered issues or a bunch of issue 5s? Keep it Simple!
We could always put the date of release on the covers.
it would seem that would be a big clue as to what came out when.
Not really.
Since it's not on a regular publication schedule, it's not like a reader could just look at it and go, "oh, #23 is the April/May 2009 issue, and since I already have the February/March and June/July issues, I know my collection is complete".
So I guess you'd have to decide whether it matters if it's hard for people to tell, down the road, whether they've read all the issues.
I didn't know that we weren't going to make them all available at the same place.
Well, that's up to whomever is passing them around, I suppose.
Quote from: Cramulus on December 18, 2008, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: HOOPLA on December 18, 2008, 05:53:48 PM
I like both ideas actually. Can they be combined?
color me bland, but I'd prefer the issues to be numbered sequentially. It will be much less confusing down the line, especially when we have over 10 issues. Is it really much of a mindfuck to confuse ourselves by having randomly numbered issues or a bunch of issue 5s? Keep it Simple!
For the most part I agree, however:
Quote from: HOOPLA on December 18, 2008, 04:45:34 PM
Would it be amusing to skip an issue and yet pretend it actually existed? We could make fake letters to the editor complaining about how offensive the issue was, etc.
This idea amuses me greatly. A "letters to the editor" section filled with damning criticisms of how horrible the (nonexistent) issue #4 was could be pretty funny.
Dear Editor,
While I was generally pleased with the content of Intermittens issues 1 through 3,
I'm afraid that issue number 4 was a shameful stain on this publication's young
reputation. Neither I nor any of my friends are easily offended, as we are all
fun-loving people, but the "humor" in that issue was simply atrocious and should
not have been made public. I don't know what other sick ideas you people have in
those twisted minds of yours, but please, keep them to yourselves and let's have
Intermittens be a generally enjoyable and thought-provoking magazine once again.
Sincerely,
Robert W.
Yo, magazine people!
All I have to say is: what the hell is WRONG with you?! I mean, I liked your
magazine up until now, but damn... At the very least, I think future issues
could do without any more content like that on page 6 of issue #4.
-Jerry
Dear editor,
Wow! Intermittens #4 was the best one yet! I got kicked out of class when I
burst out laughing at the centerfold (genius, by the way!) and my math teacher
saw it, but I still think it's great. More issues like that one, please!
-Alice D.
ATTN EDITOR
YOU ARE GOING TO HELL.
-An0nymous4Chr1st
Yes, I like this idea a lot.
:lulz:
yeah, could be a good running joke
an issue so incredible we had to pull it off the internet immediately
and cannot even ALLUDE to why
In a future issue (like maybe 6 or 7), a message from the editor:
Dear Readers,
Unfortunately, we cannot fulfill requests for copies of the infamous Intermittens #4.
To do so would create a strong case for government-enforced internet censorship, which
is not something we, the Intermittens staff, want to see. The issue was pulled after
overwhelming negative criticism, and some positive criticism from people we'd rather
not receive praise from. Please, stop asking us to re-release it. It's better to forget.
rather than "everybody hated it" how about reframe the tone to "the public couldn't handle it"?
Quote from: Cramulus on December 19, 2008, 01:33:01 AM
rather than "everybody hated it" how about reframe the tone to "the public couldn't handle it"?
Agreed. :lulz: That way we can make up contradictory complaints from various sections of society. Letters should also refer to the 'recurring' pieces, like the horoscopes, etc, etc.
There should also be a non-existent piece authored by "Stephen C., Third Outer Head, AISB" that receives complaints/complements.
[As an aside, I'm working through Issue 01. Sorry about the dragging. I'm in a slump, and leaking mucus.]
Ok let me get this straight.
while we are trying to get people to think they do not have a complete collection the issue numbering policy is going to made so that people can track all the issues easier?
Quote from: Fuquad on December 19, 2008, 02:05:16 AM
Ok let me get this straight.
while we are trying to get people to think they do not have a complete collection the issue numbering policy is going to made so that people can track all the issues easier?
Yeah.
Quote from: Cainad on December 19, 2008, 02:11:20 AM
Quote from: Fuquad on December 19, 2008, 02:05:16 AM
Ok let me get this straight.
while we are trying to get people to think they do not have a complete collection the issue numbering policy is going to made so that people can track all the issues easier?
Yeah.
Ok I'm up to speed.
Also, something Enrico wrote should have been truly abominable. We can vaguely refer to topics like cannibalism, matricide, incest, ritualistic murder, black magic, gourmet cooking, and poetry. Or something of that order.
Yeah, but only in the vaguest of vague ways.
Dear editor,
The occult practices described on page 5 of Intermittens #4 were... innovative to say
the least. Let's just say I agree with the decision to pull the issue and I have dutifully
burned my copy and flushed the ashes.
-Al Crow
Oy, editor!
I don't care who you think you are; you don't know jack shit about cooking, or about
human sexuality! Issue #4 was an utter load of crap and I think you should let it be
republished just so people can see how full of baloney you losers are.
Yours untruly,
Disillusioned Reader
Dear Intermittens Staff:
As a student of both English and Arabic literature, I found Intermittens #4 to be not
merely offensive, but downright obscene. My friends who study Philosophy likewise were
perplexed and dismayed with the content in said issue. Please refrain from publishing
such offal in the future.
Thank you,
Steven
Dear editor
The insights expressed in issue #4 have changed my life drastically. I never knew that
the works of Chaucer could be interpreted that way, and needless to say I was not at
all prepared for what came next. Looking back, perhaps I ought never to have opened
that infamous issue, but there's no changing the past. At least now there's never a dull
moment in my life, ha ha!
HA HA HA!
Hahahaha Heehehehe...
Quote from: Cainad on December 18, 2008, 11:08:16 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 18, 2008, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: HOOPLA on December 18, 2008, 05:53:48 PM
I like both ideas actually. Can they be combined?
color me bland, but I'd prefer the issues to be numbered sequentially. It will be much less confusing down the line, especially when we have over 10 issues. Is it really much of a mindfuck to confuse ourselves by having randomly numbered issues or a bunch of issue 5s? Keep it Simple!
For the most part I agree, however:
Quote from: HOOPLA on December 18, 2008, 04:45:34 PM
Would it be amusing to skip an issue and yet pretend it actually existed? We could make fake letters to the editor complaining about how offensive the issue was, etc.
This idea amuses me greatly. A "letters to the editor" section filled with damning criticisms of how horrible the (nonexistent) issue #4 was could be pretty funny.
Dear Editor,
While I was generally pleased with the content of Intermittens issues 1 through 3,
I'm afraid that issue number 4 was a shameful stain on this publication's young
reputation. Neither I nor any of my friends are easily offended, as we are all
fun-loving people, but the "humor" in that issue was simply atrocious and should
not have been made public. I don't know what other sick ideas you people have in
those twisted minds of yours, but please, keep them to yourselves and let's have
Intermittens be a generally enjoyable and thought-provoking magazine once again.
Sincerely,
Robert W.
Yo, magazine people!
All I have to say is: what the hell is WRONG with you?! I mean, I liked your
magazine up until now, but damn... At the very least, I think future issues
could do without any more content like that on page 6 of issue #4.
-Jerry
Dear editor,
Wow! Intermittens #4 was the best one yet! I got kicked out of class when I
burst out laughing at the centerfold (genius, by the way!) and my math teacher
saw it, but I still think it's great. More issues like that one, please!
-Alice D.
ATTN EDITOR
YOU ARE GOING TO HELL.
-An0nymous4Chr1st
This is fucking brilliant.
Thanks :D
I'm having a blast writing these.
Dear Mr. or Ms. Intermittens Editor:
Don't do that ever again. We have a lawyer who is pretty sure he can nail
a precedent-setting case against you for 'that issue.' Consider this a warning.
Sincerely,
Dr. Amir Buladowitz, M.D. and Mrs. Leslie Buladowitz
Alright, enough threadjack :lulz:
"Dear" Editor,
As a Discordian for the last 20+ years and an active participant in the movement both online and off, I have to say I was utterly unprepared for, among other things, the article on recycling in your Intermittens #4 issue. Are you fucking kidding me? I think your writers are severely misguided... to say the least. I consider myself an extremely irreverent person with an ability to poke fun at a lot of issues, but there was nothing funny, nothing irreverent, nothing Discordian in your treatment of that subject. It was, in fact, utterly reprehensible, and I think that if this is the kind of material the new guard is considering "Discordian", it's no wonder Discordianism is being grouped in with dangerous cults and subversive hate groups by contemporary media. I'm about ready to tear up my Pope card and join the Pastafarians, if I see any more of this nauseating bullshit.
With loathing,
-Pope Traffic Cone
I've been working on a front cover for the banned issue 4 so it can be included with all the letters of complaints, Click here to view it (http://www.imagechicken.com/uploads/1229676959014327900.png) --NSFW. I've made it how Uday would want it to be. Twisted.
I'll finish it off later if it isn't too nasty to be put into print. Uday needs sunglasses.
That's BEAUTIFUL.
:lulz: this is the most hilarious issue we've never released
Dear "I'm too chickenshit to face an 'angry mob' and so I didn't publish your article" Editor
You dirty shyster bastard! You know how long I spent on that article, right? And you go and spike it because "the public might be upset"? Fuck the public, buncha whining little crybabies. If they're not upset, then I'm not doing my job right. So they see a little blood and guts on their computer screen, so what? If it offends them that much, they should probably stop reading the internet. And pluck out their eyes, just in case. Oh, and fuck the advertisers too, those milquetoast jackoffs. Like anyone would actually write anything near the truth if they had anything to do with it.
Try to censor me again, and I'll make sure the next letter of complaint get's thrown through your window wrapped around a grenade instead of a brick.
Yours
Cain
Quote from: CynicalCichilid on December 19, 2008, 07:58:58 AM
I've been working on a front cover for the banned issue 4 so it can be included with all the letters of complaints, Click here to view it (http://www.imagechicken.com/uploads/1229676959014327900.png) --NSFW. I've made it how Uday would want it to be. Twisted.
I'll finish it off later if it isn't too nasty to be put into print. Uday needs sunglasses.
Fucking beautiful.
Quote from: Cain on December 19, 2008, 01:19:23 PM
Dear "I'm too chickenshit to face an 'angry mob' and so I didn't publish your article" Editor
You dirty shyster bastard! You know how long I spent on that article, right? And you go and spike it because "the public might be upset"? Fuck the public, buncha whining little crybabies. If they're not upset, then I'm not doing my job right. So they see a little blood and guts on their computer screen, so what? If it offends them that much, they should probably stop reading the internet. And pluck out their eyes, just in case. Oh, and fuck the advertisers too, those milquetoast jackoffs. Like anyone would actually write anything near the truth if they had anything to do with it.
Try to censor me again, and I'll make sure the next letter of complaint get's thrown through your window wrapped around a grenade instead of a brick.
Yours
Cain
Hee!
I think this is finished: http://www.imagechicken.com/uploads/1229699122028842800.png (http://www.imagechicken.com/uploads/1229699122028842800.png) (NSFW)
Requiem pointed out the lack of body hair on Uday. Fixed.
A Cease and Desist Court Order from the Federal Government.
That is all.
That should have been the issue where we exposed all the TRUE SECRETS™ of the Illuminati.
I love this Intermittens 4 idea. The cover and the letters are great!
#4 has become my alltime FAVORITE issue.....
Quote from: Khara on December 19, 2008, 02:51:09 PM
#4 has become my alltime FAVORITE issue.....
Mine, too! I mean, that picture of you that you allowed us to submit . . . wow. I didn't think you were into that sort of thing. :wink:
oh shit!
http://magcloud.com/ - the lulu of magazine printing
(link courtesy of DrJon)
Prints at $.20 per page.
QuoteMagCloud enables you to publish your own magazines. All you have to do is upload a PDF and we'll take care of the rest: printing, mailing, subscription management, and more.
How much does it cost?
It costs you nothing to publish a magazine on MagCloud. To buy a magazine costs 20¢ per page, plus shipping. For example, a 20-page magazine would be four bucks plus shipping. And you can make money! You set your issue price and all proceeds above the base price go to you. Shipping is a flat $1.40/copy (USPS first class mail) for quantities 1-9, or a flat $13 for quantities from 10-100 (per box of 10-100).
Quote from: Manta Obscura on December 19, 2008, 02:54:05 PM
Quote from: Khara on December 19, 2008, 02:51:09 PM
#4 has become my alltime FAVORITE issue.....
Mine, too! I mean, that picture of you that you allowed us to submit . . . wow. I didn't think you were into that sort of thing. :wink:
Well, for the kids sake, I would have appreciated the black bar being just a tad bit higher...... But Speaking as a Mother it is probably good to disillusion them now rather than later :lulz:
Quote from: Cramulus on December 19, 2008, 03:43:23 PM
oh shit!
http://magcloud.com/ - the lulu of magazine printing
(link courtesy of DrJon)
Prints at $.20 per page.
QuoteMagCloud enables you to publish your own magazines. All you have to do is upload a PDF and we'll take care of the rest: printing, mailing, subscription management, and more.
How much does it cost?
It costs you nothing to publish a magazine on MagCloud. To buy a magazine costs 20¢ per page, plus shipping. For example, a 20-page magazine would be four bucks plus shipping. And you can make money! You set your issue price and all proceeds above the base price go to you. Shipping is a flat $1.40/copy (USPS first class mail) for quantities 1-9, or a flat $13 for quantities from 10-100 (per box of 10-100).
AWEFUCKINGSOME!
Quote from: Cramulus on December 19, 2008, 03:43:23 PM
oh shit!
http://magcloud.com/ - the lulu of magazine printing
(link courtesy of DrJon)
Prints at $.20 per page.
QuoteMagCloud enables you to publish your own magazines. All you have to do is upload a PDF and we'll take care of the rest: printing, mailing, subscription management, and more.
How much does it cost?
It costs you nothing to publish a magazine on MagCloud. To buy a magazine costs 20¢ per page, plus shipping. For example, a 20-page magazine would be four bucks plus shipping. And you can make money! You set your issue price and all proceeds above the base price go to you. Shipping is a flat $1.40/copy (USPS first class mail) for quantities 1-9, or a flat $13 for quantities from 10-100 (per box of 10-100).
Brilliant!
Dear Mr Mangrove,
In response to your earlier letter concerning 'Intermittens #4' and the Freedom Of Information Act, I am pleased to include the following document that you requested. Please note that issues relating to national security have been redacted.
Intermittens #4 p56
"....so anyway, the nun says _________________________________________
_______________________________cabbage____________________________
_________________and I was like ______________________________________
____________________________________________________________________
____________________?
____________________________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________________
_______robot ________________________________________________________
____________________________ "
I ignore the forum for a week and this is what I come back to?
BRILLIANT!
Issue #4: 160% yes.
If the lollercaust never really takes off:
Intermittens #4 aka lollercaust?
Quote from: Regret on December 24, 2008, 01:21:18 AM
If the lollercaust never really takes off:
Intermittens #4 aka lollercaust?
For reasons best left unexplained, Intermittens Issue #4 has been nicknamed "The Lollercaust."
In the indefinite future, a viewer-safe publication with the title Lollercaust will be produced, which we hope will capture the best of that issue without exposing the public to *censored*.
even better!
Quote from: Cainad on December 24, 2008, 03:16:13 AM
Quote from: Regret on December 24, 2008, 01:21:18 AM
If the lollercaust never really takes off:
Intermittens #4 aka lollercaust?
For reasons best left unexplained, Intermittens Issue #4 has been nicknamed "The Lollercaust."
In the indefinite future, a viewer-safe publication with the title Lollercaust will be produced, which we hope will capture the best of that issue without exposing the public to *censored*.
Cainad, I'm not sure where you got your public-service-announcement or letter-to-editor writing abilities, but I'm quite impressed, my friend. This is awesome.
Since I have no clue what issue concept I had been pining for that was referenced earlier in the thread was, I have no problem being marked as editor of this nonexistent issue #4. It saves me some work.
Use this if you must.
http://raptorex.deviantart.com/art/5-50478257
Quote from: whatc on January 09, 2009, 11:48:22 PM
Use this if you must.
http://raptorex.deviantart.com/art/5-50478257
Ha ha, that's great.
nice! would make a nice cover image, too.
I will include it within the cover idea I have cooked up.
Can we refer to issue four as "The things mankind is not meant to know issue'?
What is the "official" theme for this issue???
Quote from: Fuquad on January 13, 2009, 08:06:14 PM
Can we refer to issue four as "The things mankind is not meant to know issue'?
I personally like the idea of being vague to the point where simply "Issue Four" becomes meme-like. It certainly is implied that it contains things mankind is not meant to know, but the variety of letters to the editor (of which I wrote most, heh) also suggest that maybe it was mind-blowingly offensive, moronic, or horrifying.
It's sort of like a shoggoth.
Quote from: Cainad on January 13, 2009, 08:21:08 PM
Quote from: Fuquad on January 13, 2009, 08:06:14 PM
Can we refer to issue four as "The things mankind is not meant to know issue'?
I personally like the idea of being vague to the point where simply "Issue Four" becomes meme-like. It certainly is implied that it contains things mankind is not meant to know, but the variety of letters to the editor (of which I wrote most, heh) also suggest that maybe it was mind-blowingly offensive, moronic, or horrifying.
It's sort of like a shoggoth.
That doesn't help me think up shit for Jenne and I to make fun of!!!!
Well, thus far it looks like the theme for issue #5 is issue #4 :lulz:
Quote from: Mask of the K on January 13, 2009, 08:17:26 PM
What is the "official" theme for this issue???
The Law of Fives.
Quote from: Cainad on January 13, 2009, 08:39:18 PM
Well, thus far it looks like the theme for issue #5 is issue #4 :lulz:
I will mention the now non-existent Issue #4, but I don't want it to eclipse the issue itself. I will mention it in the editorial, and will include letters to the editor about it, but otherwise it will be business as usual.
We can also include letters about Issue #4 in subsequent issues as well... no reason it should die so quickly.
I agree. I'd rather let the Issue #4 drama be spread out, for the sake of extra lulz and ++SUBTLETY
Anyway, Law of 5s. Generally when we use that phrase on PD.com we're making fun of people seeing connections where none exist. Is that the tack we're taking here? If so, that pic someone posted somewhere about the word "Nazi" and turning it into a swastika or something might be relevant.
YOu could probably approach it from several angles.
Sure, the FAIL part is fun, but the fact that is is absolutely necessary for existence should be mentioned, as well.
I would like to tackle it from all sides, both pro and con. Otherwise, what is the point of it being a magazine?
Quote from: Cainad on January 13, 2009, 08:46:27 PM
I agree. I'd rather let the Issue #4 drama be spread out, for the sake of extra lulz and ++SUBTLETY
Anyway, Law of 5s. Generally when we use that phrase on PD.com we're making fun of people seeing connections where none exist. Is that the tack we're taking here? If so, that pic someone posted somewhere about the word "Nazi" and turning it into a swastika or something might be relevant.
If you only see the FAIL, then I think you might be missing the point...
Quote from: Ratatosk on January 13, 2009, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: Cainad on January 13, 2009, 08:46:27 PM
I agree. I'd rather let the Issue #4 drama be spread out, for the sake of extra lulz and ++SUBTLETY
Anyway, Law of 5s. Generally when we use that phrase on PD.com we're making fun of people seeing connections where none exist. Is that the tack we're taking here? If so, that pic someone posted somewhere about the word "Nazi" and turning it into a swastika or something might be relevant.
If you only see the FAIL, then I think you might be missing the point...
No, I know there is another side to the Law of 5s. I just don't have as much fun talking about it.
So, is anyone interested in writing any pieces concerning the Law of Fives? Even if it only vaguely touches on the subject, or is a bizarre angle on the topic?
If so, PM me with it so I can get started...
I'm working on an article defending the law of fives, but I feel dain bramaged today and so it's not really coming along well.
I'm hoping for mid Feb, depending on when issue 3 comes out, so you've got some time.
If you don't mind cross-post, this is the sort of thing I'm doing for Verriwung, so I could do something.
Quote from: LMNO on January 14, 2009, 12:56:14 AM
If you don't mind cross-post, this is the sort of thing I'm doing for Verriwung, so I could do something.
I don't mind at all.
I was going to write something about Apophenia/Pareidolia on my blog. I can try to redo it a bit so it can fit into Issue #5.
Quote from: BAWHEED on January 13, 2009, 09:35:16 PM
I'm hoping for mid Feb, depending on when issue 3 comes out, so you've got some time.
#3 will be out by the end of January. That may mean January 31st, but it will be out by then.
Khara and I are shooting around some ideas...any suggestions would be welcome.
{
This is a scene of an advertisement for Space Dockers™ brand pants.
It may be appropriate for #5...}
INT – SUBURBAN LIVINGROOM
A teenage boy is playing video games.
Voice Over
Faeces Christ. Fact: it's been knock,
knock, knockin' on heaven's door since
your last supper.
The boy looks at the camera, and gasps in shock.
Timmy
You're right! But I'm almost to six
million points in my new action
shooter, Lollercaust. If only I could
poop faster!
Voice Over
Now you can with new Space Dockers
brand pants!
The pants are displayed.
Voice Over
Space Dockers are the only SLACKS
that feature astro-age, anti-gravity
zipper technology, allowing Space
Dockers to have a zipper that starts in
the front and keeps on trucking!
As the pants are displayed, the zipped is demonstrated as going from the front to the back waistband of
the crotch.
Timmy
But that means...
Voice Over
That's right, Timmy, you can save time
pooping and get back to mindless
slaughter in no time!
Timmy
But won't people make fun of me for
wearing them in public?
Voice over
Poppy cocks! Space Dockers are all the
rage! AND they come in a variety of
styles: slacks- for the working man;
denim- for the rebel without a pause;
khakis- for relaxed movement; and even
corduroy- if you're a fag!
Timmy
Awesome! Here I come, economic
cleansing!
Voice Over
Space Dockers: prepare for boarding!
Quote from: A Gatecrashers Five Goons on January 13, 2009, 08:06:14 PM
Can we refer to issue four as "The things mankind is not meant to know issue'?
How about The things humanity was not meant to know issue?
Sorry, I get tired of playing with just manthings.
What if the cover for the nonexistent issue #4 listed the names of major contributors, i.e., Discordians/spags/whatever that PD.com likes to make fun of?
Something subtle though. Nobody will believe it if we claim articles by George W. Bush and Jerry Fallwell.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on January 29, 2009, 06:27:11 AM
Quote from: A Gatecrashers Five Goons on January 13, 2009, 08:06:14 PM
Can we refer to issue four as "The things mankind is not meant to know issue'?
How about The things humanity was not meant to know issue?
Sorry, I get tired of playing with just manthings.
On the one hand, you've sort of got a valid point. "Humanity" is a more correct term and doesn't really detract from the intended impact of the phrase.
On the other hand, the subtle and probably unintended implication that someone who uses "mankind" rather than "humankind" is misogynist pig annoys some people.
I'm not particularly bothered by your suggestion, but somebody here is liable to get on your case about it. :wink:
...
So, after thinking about it, I guess what I'm trying to say is that you're not wrong, but talking about gender and especially the English language as it relates to matters of gender tends to get some people here worked up.
For me, it makes a better mystery if it wasn't meant to be "special", but there were things so horrific in it that it was universally abhored. So calling it "The things humanity was not meant to know" issue makes it sound like we meant it to be that way, whereas it just starting as "Issue #4", which later became infamous sounds so much better to me.
I find it hard to explain myself lately. I hope I haven't had a stroke or anything.
Quote from: LMNO on January 29, 2009, 01:44:04 PM
For me, it makes a better mystery if it wasn't meant to be "special", but there were things so horrific in it that it was universally abhored. So calling it "The things humanity was not meant to know" issue makes it sound like we meant it to be that way, whereas it just starting as "Issue #4", which later became infamous sounds so much better to me.
I find it hard to explain myself lately. I hope I haven't had a stroke or anything.
No, I totally hear you, and I agree. That was sort of my personal vision for the whole thing.
That way it's just an unexpected product of our combined genius, and we're just as surprised as anyone at how it turned out.
I really thought the "Dear Uncle Uncle BadTouch" kids-advice column was a bit off, though.
Yeah, that made me sick to my stomach.
Quote from: Triple "Dave" Zero on January 29, 2009, 08:30:05 PM
I really thought the "Dear Uncle Uncle BadTouch" kids-advice column was a bit off, though.
:lulz:
Quote from: LMNO on January 29, 2009, 01:44:04 PM
For me, it makes a better mystery if it wasn't meant to be "special", but there were things so horrific in it that it was universally abhored. So calling it "The things humanity was not meant to know" issue makes it sound like we meant it to be that way, whereas it just starting as "Issue #4", which later became infamous sounds so much better to me.
I find it hard to explain myself lately. I hope I haven't had a stroke or anything.
YES. A regular issue, that for whatever reason infuriated people to no end.
Quote from: BAWHEED on February 04, 2009, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 29, 2009, 01:44:04 PM
For me, it makes a better mystery if it wasn't meant to be "special", but there were things so horrific in it that it was universally abhored. So calling it "The things humanity was not meant to know" issue makes it sound like we meant it to be that way, whereas it just starting as "Issue #4", which later became infamous sounds so much better to me.
I find it hard to explain myself lately. I hope I haven't had a stroke or anything.
YES. A regular issue, that for whatever reason infuriated people to no end.
So much so, that we've turned against our usual attitudes of anti-censorship and sheepishly tucked the issue away, allowing only allusions to its existence.
Frankly, I was embarassed by the whole thing.
I thought it was awesome. Especially when the Judge found me in contempt of court.
Quite frankly I'm glad it was put away. Some of those pictures could have been quite embarassing if one of my children ever ran for public office.
It's just best left where it is. SSSSSHHHHHH We don't want to discuss it anymore.....
A friend of a friend actually saw it and got about halfway though before her eyes started to bleed. She's never been the same since.
One of the diagrams in particular, described as "a complex geometric diagram which acted subliminally, directly interfering with the operations of the neocortex, produced a profound effect on a high percentage of people who were exposed to it. So much so that the publication has been classified as harmful by several countries health and drug legislators.
It puts me in an awkward position for issue 5, since NOBODY has yet been able to pinpoint exactly WHAT was so offensive about issue 4... and I was informed in no uncertain terms that a repeat of issue 4 would put me and any contributors in very warm water...
So, I guess Salazorian porn is the only way to go... since its still SOMEHOW less offensive.
Guys, I think this is getting out of hand...
(http://www.theinvisiblecollege.com/images/protest/issuenumber1sign.jpg)
(http://www.theinvisiblecollege.com/images/protest/free-issue-4-1.jpg)
:lulz: :mittens:
Quote from: Ratatosk on February 04, 2009, 11:56:49 PM
(http://www.theinvisiblecollege.com/images/protest/issuenumber1sign.jpg)
obviously fake
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/8squinty.jpg)
look at that MS-Painted moustache
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/stachetard.jpg)
He demanded that I hide his identity as he didn't want to be seen in public protesting....
How on earth can you tell, by the pixels or something?
How is that possible?
Well Ratatosk doesn't want a cease and desist message posted on here from www.realeaseissue4.com, does he?
Quote from: BAWHEED on February 05, 2009, 03:47:48 AM
Well Ratatosk doesn't want a cease and desist message posted on here from www.realeaseissue4.com, does he?
I went there all excited to see what I'd find. But all I saw was:
QuoteProxy Error
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request GET http://www.realeaseissue4.com/.
Reason: DNS lookup failure for: www.realeaseissue4.com
Damn, that was disappointing.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on January 29, 2009, 06:27:11 AMQuote from: A Gatecrashers Five Goons on January 13, 2009, 08:06:14 PMCan we refer to issue four as "The things mankind is not meant to know issue'?
How about The things humanity was not meant to know issue?
Sorry, I get tired of playing with just manthings.
DEER EDITORS
THE THINGS HUMANITY WASN'T MEANT TO KNOW ISSUE!?!?! WHAT THE FUCK KINDOF SPECISISM IS THIS!!!! WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO JOIN THE KKK YOU STUPID FUCKING SPECISIST FUCKING FUCKS!!! DO YOU KICKPUPPIES TOO!?!! I BET YOUR THE ONE WHO PUTS DOLPHINS IN THE FUCKING TUNA!!!!
I DEMEND YOU RENAME THIS ISSUE THE "UNSAFE FOR SENTIENT MINDS ISSUE" AND GET YOUR FUCKING HEADS OUTOF YOUR FUCKING ASSES!!!
SINCERELY,
PEOEPLE FOR THE ETHICAL CONSIDERATION OF SENTIENT SPECIES
PS I LIKED THE RECIPIES PLEASEPRINT MOAR.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 05, 2009, 04:46:22 AM
Quote from: BAWHEED on February 05, 2009, 03:47:48 AM
Well Ratatosk doesn't want a cease and desist message posted on here from www.realeaseissue4.com, does he?
I went there all excited to see what I'd find. But all I saw was:
QuoteProxy Error
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request GET http://www.realeaseissue4.com/.
Reason: DNS lookup failure for: www.realeaseissue4.com
Damn, that was disappointing.
:lulz:
Quote from: BAWHEED on February 05, 2009, 03:21:01 PM
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 05, 2009, 04:46:22 AM
Quote from: BAWHEED on February 05, 2009, 03:47:48 AM
Well Ratatosk doesn't want a cease and desist message posted on here from www.realeaseissue4.com, does he?
I went there all excited to see what I'd find. But all I saw was:
QuoteProxy Error
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request GET http://www.realeaseissue4.com/.
Reason: DNS lookup failure for: www.realeaseissue4.com
Damn, that was disappointing.
:lulz:
:| How the fuck did they find that site? :eek:
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/message-from-God.gif)
:lulz:
Re: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=18913.msg656792#msg656792 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=18913.msg656792#msg656792)
With all due respect to the editor of Issue 5 (it was posted here--you have first choice), if for some reason you don't want to use it, I'd like to have it for Issue 7: Operation Mindfuck.
EDIT: I just noticed the part, if we don't charge anything. Does that include giving away the issue for free, but charging for a printed version (if we ever do that)?
I think it's fair to charge for print copies so long as the PDFs are free for download and print.
Quote from: Cain on February 04, 2009, 04:52:06 PM
I thought it was awesome. Especially when the Judge found me in contempt of court.
dude don't go there. it's not funny, okay?
If I have to change service providers one more time...
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 11, 2009, 06:39:57 AM
Re: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=18913.msg656792#msg656792 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=18913.msg656792#msg656792)
With all due respect to the editor of Issue 5 (it was posted here--you have first choice), if for some reason you don't want to use it, I'd like to have it for Issue 7: Operation Mindfuck.
EDIT: I just noticed the part, if we don't charge anything. Does that include giving away the issue for free, but charging for a printed version (if we ever do that)?
Wait, so is it for issue 5, or no? I'm -so far- very light on material.
Grab it and run with it Hoops. Sheered Völva has at least 2 months on you to come up with content.
Hey, if anyone doing an Intermittens is interested, I'd like to nominate my "Shut the fuck up" rant for it.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on February 11, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
Hey, if anyone doing an Intermittens is interested, I'd like to nominate my "Shut the fuck up" rant for it.
Hey...
Shut the fuck up
:wink:
Quote from: Que Si on February 11, 2009, 07:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on February 11, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
Hey, if anyone doing an Intermittens is interested, I'd like to nominate my "Shut the fuck up" rant for it.
Hey...
Shut the fuck up
:wink:
YES
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19399.0
Quote from: bawheed on February 11, 2009, 06:36:30 PM
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 11, 2009, 06:39:57 AM
Re: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=18913.msg656792#msg656792 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=18913.msg656792#msg656792)
With all due respect to the editor of Issue 5 (it was posted here--you have first choice), if for some reason you don't want to use it, I'd like to have it for Issue 7: Operation Mindfuck.
EDIT: I just noticed the part, if we don't charge anything. Does that include giving away the issue for free, but charging for a printed version (if we ever do that)?
Wait, so is it for issue 5, or no? I'm -so far- very light on material.
You have first choice--go for it! :)
Quote from: Nigel on February 11, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
Hey, if anyone doing an Intermittens is interested, I'd like to nominate my "Shut the fuck up" rant for it.
Where is the rant? I'd like to check it out.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 12, 2009, 05:08:02 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 11, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
Hey, if anyone doing an Intermittens is interested, I'd like to nominate my "Shut the fuck up" rant for it.
Where is the rant? I'd like to check it out.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19399.0
Jefe says I plagiarized Douglas Adams. :lulz:
Quote from: Nigel on February 12, 2009, 05:48:17 AMJefe says I plagiarized Douglas Adams. :lulz:
QuotePeople like to talk, they really like making noises with their mouths. They talk talk talk all the fucking time, rarely saying anything of interest of value EVEN TO THEM, just fucking reading labels out loud or narrating the events around them "the dog is looking at me, oh man now he's going up the stairs, bye dog! I'm going to have a cup of coffee. There's a bird outside the window, oh nope he flew away. The sun is out today. Haha this bottle of syrup is funny! I think I'll read the ingredients..." on and on and on FOR NO FUCKING REASON other than that perhaps if they stop FUCKING TALKING their brains might switch on and they might have a moment of wondering what the hell all this is about, anyway, and what they're doing with their lives besides being another cog in the machine. Maybe if they stop talking the universe starts pressing in on them and they begin to become aware of how tiny, how meaningless, how insignificant, and above all how lonely they are.
Essentially your "Shut The Fuck Up' rant has four elements: a trivial fact, some examples of that fact, an observation about that fact, and an expressed desire to harm others.
The trivial fact is "People talk." This fact is reference a lot in your rant. Several examples of what people talk about are given. Later, in an unquoted part, you express a desire to "cut their fucking stupid tongues out of their hollow heads."
The bolded part is the only interesting idea in the entire rant. It's the single observation: "FOR NO FUCKING REASON other than that perhaps if they stop FUCKING TALKING their brains might switch on and they might have a moment of wondering what the hell all this is about, anyway, and what they're doing with their lives besides being another cog in the machine."
Compare that with: "If they don't keep on exercising their lips, he thought, their brains start working."
"They talk for no fucking reason other than that perhaps if they stop talking their brains might switch on" VS "If they don't keep on exercising their lips, their brains start working."
It probably wasn't
intentional plagiarism, but it is sufficiently unoriginal that it probably shouldn't go in a magazine. Maybe a free magazine put out by volunteers, that's really up to the editor, but if it goes in, it should go with the understanding that the only interesting observation in the entire rant is a rephrasing of a Douglas Adams joke.
Quoteit should go with the understanding that the only interesting observation in the entire rant is a rephrasing of a Douglas Adams joke.
because making interesting observations is the entire point of ranting, as your post so clearly demonstrates :|
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 12, 2009, 12:17:23 PMbecause making interesting observations is the entire point of ranting, as your post so clearly demonstrates :|
I really hate it when people make compound statements that are half-true.
I would not qualify my post as a "rant," and I don't think any reasonable person would either. So when you say my post clearly demonstrates the point of ranting, you're basically just being a fucking dick and mischaracterizing my post so you can set yourself up for a lame put-down.
But yes, the point of a rant is to make interesting and humorous observations about the things that annoy us. It is the interesting observations, the telling truths that make us laugh or smile in recognition, that make a rant worth reading.
Without interesting observations, the rant becomes sound and fury signifying nothing, it's just some blowhard making a lot of noise about something annoying, which is generally as annoying as whatever they are ranting about. Take the observation out of Nigel's post, and what's left? "People talk, it annoys me, I want to hurt them." Kind of pointless and not particularly interesting to read. Certainly not anything worth publishing.
Twat!
Quote from: Dead Kennedy on February 12, 2009, 12:34:15 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 12, 2009, 12:17:23 PMbecause making interesting observations is the entire point of ranting, as your post so clearly demonstrates :|
I really hate it when people make compound statements that are half-true.
I would not qualify my post as a "rant," and I don't think any reasonable person would either. So when you say my post clearly demonstrates the point of ranting, you're basically just being a fucking dick and mischaracterizing my post so you can set yourself up for a lame put-down.
But yes, the point of a rant is to make interesting and humorous observations about the things that annoy us. It is the interesting observations, the telling truths that make us laugh or smile in recognition, that make a rant worth reading.
Without interesting observations, the rant becomes sound and fury signifying nothing, it's just some blowhard making a lot of noise about something annoying, which is generally as annoying as whatever they are ranting about. Take the observation out of Nigel's post, and what's left? "People talk, it annoys me, I want to hurt them." Kind of pointless and not particularly interesting to read. Certainly not anything worth publishing.
And you sir, are a cunt.
Nigel's rant was actually very entertaining to read.
Do I give a shit if it had a point to it or not, if I was entertained by reading it?
No.
Fuck off.
Quote from: The Borderline Simpleton on February 12, 2009, 02:09:34 PMAnd you sir, are a cunt.
Nigel's rant was actually very entertaining to read.
Do I give a shit if it had a point to it or not, if I was entertained by reading it?
No.
Fuck off.
And you are a moron. I never said that Nigel's rant had no point. I said
a rant with no interesting observations has no point. Nigel's rant had an interesting observation. Unfortunately, it was Douglas Adams' interesting observation.
That you were entertained by it does not change the fact that it's Douglas Adams joke.
Quote from: Dead Kennedy on February 12, 2009, 12:34:15 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 12, 2009, 12:17:23 PMbecause making interesting observations is the entire point of ranting, as your post so clearly demonstrates :|
I really hate it when people make compound statements that are half-true.
I would not qualify my post as a "rant," and I don't think any reasonable person would either. So when you say my post clearly demonstrates the point of ranting, you're basically just being a fucking dick and mischaracterizing my post so you can set yourself up for a lame put-down.
But yes, the point of a rant is to make interesting and humorous observations about the things that annoy us. It is the interesting observations, the telling truths that make us laugh or smile in recognition, that make a rant worth reading.
Without interesting observations, the rant becomes sound and fury signifying nothing, it's just some blowhard making a lot of noise about something annoying, which is generally as annoying as whatever they are ranting about. Take the observation out of Nigel's post, and what's left? "People talk, it annoys me, I want to hurt them." Kind of pointless and not particularly interesting to read. Certainly not anything worth publishing.
Asshole.
Also, is building on someone elses observation a bad thing?
Hmmm.
DK, it appears that both the focus of your critiques and the nature of your posting style are absent any kind of emotional resonance.
That is, you focus explicitly on the content of the message, yet seem to avoid the emotional context which that content is placed. In the case of Nigel's rant, I felt the "point" was the way the message was conveyed, and not so much the innovation of the message.
Of course, Adams wasn't the first person to notice the chattering ways of the monkey, nor the insipid subject matter it contains. You might as well have accused her of plagarizing the Bible, Amos 4:13 ('He who forms the mountains and creates the wind ["ruach", inspirational breath] / Reports to man his chatter ["sicho", light, insipid conversation]'). But Nigel's post wasn't about a new insight into the mind of man, it was the impassioned plea of a woman who wants people to SHUT UP.
Naturally, when one is in a highly emotional state, or wants to project that emotion in a piece of writing, complicated ideas about the habits of domesticated primates will tend to be reduced to more elementary statements. So, when reading an emotional rant, one should take into account the means which the information is being conveyed.
Also, because this was an emotional thought piece rather than an intellectual one, it only makes sense that when you attempted to critique it as the latter rather than the former, the responses you get will take on more of an emotional bent than perhaps you would prefer.
Just a thought.
Quote from: LMNO on February 12, 2009, 02:39:40 PM
Hmmm.
DK, it appears that both the focus of your critiques and the nature of your posting style are absent any kind of emotional resonance.
That is, you focus explicitly on the content of the message, yet seem to avoid the emotional context which that content is placed. In the case of Nigel's rant, I felt the "point" was the way the message was conveyed, and not so much the innovation of the message.
Of course, Adams wasn't the first person to notice the chattering ways of the monkey, nor the insipid subject matter it contains. You might as well have accused her of plagarizing the Bible, Amos 4:13 ('He who forms the mountains and creates the wind ["ruach", inspirational breath] / Reports to man his chatter ["sicho", light, insipid conversation]'). But Nigel's post wasn't about a new insight into the mind of man, it was the impassioned plea of a woman who wants people to SHUT UP.
Naturally, when one is in a highly emotional state, or wants to project that emotion in a piece of writing, complicated ideas about the habits of domesticated primates will tend to be reduced to more elementary statements. So, when reading an emotional rant, one should take into account the means which the information is being conveyed.
Also, because this was an emotional thought piece rather than an intellectual one, it only makes sense that when you attempted to critique it as the latter rather than the former, the responses you get will take on more of an emotional bent than perhaps you would prefer.
Just a thought.
LMNO you make too damn much sense. What's wrong with you anyway? I was looking forward to a hostile, purposeless thread of mudslinging. And you come in and make sense! :argh!:
Yeah, Alphapance, we're piling on teh aspietard here. Quit cramping our style :argh!:
SV: I gotta be me.
P3nt:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/communism7qj4as4.jpg)
Quote from: Nigel on February 11, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
Hey, if anyone doing an Intermittens is interested, I'd like to nominate my "Shut the fuck up" rant for it.
With apologies to the Editor of Number Five (sorry, your name keeps changing), Nigel opened this up to any editor. I realize this is posted in the Number Five thread, but the original rant isn't, and I did just give my blessings for you to use something I wanted (which was posted here).
To make a long story short, I want this for Issue 7 Operation Mindfuck. It's not a mindfuck, but really seems to fit the theme. This talkers are the people who need OMs.
I will promise, however, that in compensation I will look for 5-related stuff, and let you know what I find.
Is this all right?
-- The Sweet, Gentle, Considerate and Kind Editor of Issue 7
(who wants a rant about beating people to bloody death with a hammer)
Quote from: Dead Kennedy on February 12, 2009, 12:34:15 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 12, 2009, 12:17:23 PMbecause making interesting observations is the entire point of ranting, as your post so clearly demonstrates :|
I really hate it when people make compound statements that are half-true.
i'll remember that for the next time i want to make a monkey dance.
QuoteI would not qualify my post as a "rant," and I don't think any reasonable person would either. So when you say my post clearly demonstrates the
point of ranting, you're basically just being a fucking dick and mischaracterizing my post so you can set yourself up for a lame put-down.
well, yeah.
that's what you get for acting like you deserve being a dick to
(sorry i'm no native speaker, i couldnt figure out how to fix it, so i hope it doesn't offend you when i do that thing you're not supposed to end a sentence with)
QuoteBut yes, the point of a rant is to make interesting and humorous observations about the things that annoy us. It is the interesting observations, the telling truths that make us laugh or smile in recognition, that make a rant worth reading.
please do continue lecturing us about the only proper way to write a good rant worthy of your time.
would you like another semicolon, perchance?
QuoteWithout interesting observations, the rant becomes sound and fury signifying nothing, it's just some blowhard making a lot of noise about something annoying, which is generally as annoying as whatever they are ranting about. Take the observation out of Nigel's post, and what's left? "People talk, it annoys me, I want to hurt them." Kind of pointless and not particularly interesting to read. Certainly not anything worth publishing.
i disagree with this on the grounds of what LMNO said.
additionally, like Operation:Mindfuck, ranting can also be seen as one of the Discordian holy acts, or religious acts, in a sermon-like context, regarding the expression of strife and discord. In a similar way, a Christian wouldn't whine about a similar sermon that, if he wanted to be really anal about it, could be said to add nothing to some witty phrase by Douglas Adams, apart from a really well expressed message of Christian love (or whatever). Which is why we have a special subforum for messages of Discordian HATE, called "Or Kill Me".
but, being the self-proclaimed smartest person on this forum, you must have already easily come to this conclusion. therefore I must assume you're making these remarks for the sole purpose of being a fucking arrogant piece of slimy crawling puss-infected cholera spray hose tube worm poop that is not even worth forming an opinion about Nigel's discarded toenail clippings LET ALONE HER LITERARY SKILLS.
and hence my previous (and continued) dickishness.
Quote from: LMNO on February 12, 2009, 04:39:20 PM
P3nt:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/communism7qj4as4.jpg)
FUCK YUO, MY MOTHER WAS GANGRAPED TO DEATH BY KARL MARX :argh!:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 12, 2009, 05:14:48 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 12, 2009, 04:39:20 PM
P3nt:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/communism7qj4as4.jpg)
FUCK YUO, MY MOTHER WAS GANGRAPED TO DEATH BY KARL MARX :argh!:
My mother was Karl Marx!
But she got better.
On the note of DK's and LMNO's posts, I agree fully with every statement in both (despite the fact that they are totally contradicting each other). However, I should point out that InterMittens has absolutely no requirement to use any particular (or general) criteria (or any criteria at all) to determine the quality and publishing-worthyness of a given thing. I don't know how the rant especially relates to the law of fives, but I'm sure that it can be worked in somehow if you want, and furthermore, it's up to whoever the editor is to determine whether or not it will fit, how to fit it, and whether or not it fits (to hir). I certainly did not agree with or like every single article in the first two IM issues, but they were worth downloading and reading, and I found even the stuff I disliked worth reading.
If you want a counterexample to the idea that things need to be worth publishing to be put into IM, check out the WOMPings of caped unicorns performing fellatio juxtaposed with men in hats yelling ambiguous meat categories intermingled with the text of a rant about politics.
So, Khara and I are STILL out of idears for this issue. :(
And no one has offered any help (that I can find)...so... :( (anyone? anyone? Buehler?)
Should we put our stuff from the aborted-for-now-4 in here instead? HELP! SOS! QUIT IGNORING ME! /bawww
The speaking as a mother thing?
If you want to tie into the theme, why not go over parenting techniques that relate to recasting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reframing_(NLP))? I mean, it's kind of a classic technique. Take the following cliched interactions:
- I don't want my brocolli!
- The kids in <insert third world nation/continent> would be greatful to have broccoli!
- I don't want to goto school!
- You'll make friends in school. Here, you'll just end up hanging around with me all day.
- Why should I learn to cook?
- If you can cook, girls will be more likely to want to marry you.
Quote from: Enki-][ on February 12, 2009, 06:47:07 PM
The speaking as a mother thing?
If you want to tie into the theme, why not go over parenting techniques that relate to recasting[/img]? I mean, it's kind of a classic technique. Take the following cliched interactions:
- I don't want my brocolli!
- The kids in <insert third world nation/continent> would be greatful to have broccoli!
- I don't want to goto school!
- You'll make friends in school. Here, you'll just end up hanging around with me all day.
- Why should I learn to cook?
- If you can cook, girls will be more likely to want to marry you.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reframing_(NLP))
Ah. Old Wives' Tales seems to be a good place to start! :D Exactly the brain-jog I needed, thanks, Enki!
Quote from: Nigel on February 13, 2009, 01:54:42 AM
Quote from: Telarus on February 13, 2009, 01:46:16 AM
Srsly, can a mod split this off and throw it in Or Kill Me?
This is a good plan. Put it in the STFU thread, even, because at least it's relevant there.
Done. Relevant section sent to extract of DK fail in apple talk.
I checked, but if I missed anything and killed a relevant post, let me know and I'll place it back in.
Unless you happen to be DK, in which case you can eat a dick and stop fucking up the actual content boards. Your childish bullshit will be tolerated in Apple Talk only. If you fuck up threads here, I - or one of the other mods - will simply bulk move all of your crap, and laugh at the time you have wasted.
Burns and me are working on something for issue 5, i hope you are still accepting. ETA next time i talk to/hear from Burns + a couple of hours, unless he posts it first or i get inspiration aids.
Its a conspiracy theory revolving around how aliens took over france to force the concept of police on us poor humans.
Quote from: Regret on March 06, 2009, 01:43:20 AM
Burns and me are working on something for issue 5, i hope you are still accepting. ETA next time i talk to/hear from Burns + a couple of hours, unless he posts it first or i get inspiration aids.
Its a conspiracy theory revolving around how aliens took over france to force the concept of police on us poor humans.
Still accepting.
Scratch that - not interested in participating anymore.
Someone else can handle issue 5.
Heeeeere's Spaggy!
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/The_shining_heres_johnny.jpg)
I'll see if I can hack something together.
Not including the cover and table of contents, I have about 10 pages poomped out.
So far I have included:
"Message From the SSOOKN Regarding the Law of Fives" by LMNO
"The Rich Eat First" by Sepia/brennschluss
"Law of Fives Kabalistic Numeral Madgiiiqckue" by Telarus
"Argyle" by The Dreadful Hours
"You Are All Equal" by Thurnez Isa
"DO Take This Personal" by RWHN
"Shut The Fuck Up" by Nigel
along with "Letters to the Editor" about Issue #4 (by various people), a scattering of memebombs, pictures, and stupid stuff.
That sounds kick-ass!
YES IT DOES!
Is Manta Obscura even around anymore? A Discordian Whoroscope would be nice.
Anything else anyone would like to contribute? I've added "Words In My Head. MY HEAD!" by Payne.
You fucks better give me some stuff to put in, or else I'm going to go forum spelunking again. Who knows what I might come up with, should I delve too greedily and too deep...
Is it still Law of 5s? I've been here long enough I should have something suitable to contribute, though I think you already have stuff from me.
BTW, the dreadful hours passes along his thanks for including his "poetry". :wink:
Yeah, I'm kinda-sorta trying to keep the Lo5s theme. I put in one of your Shrapnel essays already, but I have precisely zero qualms about using any author twice.
I'm up to 14.5 pages; let's bump this little bastard to 20.
I can hunt around for some stuff...
Here's the cover, such as it is:
(http://blackironprison.com/images/3/34/Cover_issue_5.png)
I tried to stay within the margins throughout most of the issue.
16.5 PAGES
ALMOST THERE YOU SPAGS! LOOK UPON MY WORKS, YE MIGHTY, AND LULZ!
ETA: I've added "The Heresies: chapter 1" by TGRR and "Louis XIV Was An Alien!" by Regret and Fuzball
woo-hoo
should i hire an agent
Filled in that 0.5, so now we are blessed with 17 pages.
Two more pages' worth of content, people! I can fill in the last page with bullshit.
http://namcub.accela-labs.com/pics/I_2.doc maybe with a note at the bottom saying something like: "How much of the meaning was intended by the author?"
Can I suggest including chapters 5 and 23 of the Dao De Ching?
5. The Function of Emptiness +
Heaven and earth proceed without motive, but casually in their order of
nature, dealing with all things carelessly, like used talismans. So also
the sages deal with their people, not exercising benevolence, but
allowing the nature of all to move without friction.
The Space between heaven and earth (I.e., the six trigrams between those named 'heaven'(http://www.23ae.com/format/ejing/hex1.gif) and 'earth'(http://www.23ae.com/format/ejing/hex5.gif)) is their breathing apparatus:
Exhalation is not exhaustion, but the complement of Inhalation, and this
equally of that. Speech (by interfering with this regular order of breathing)
exhausteth; guard thyself, therefore, maintaining the perfect freedom of thy nature.
23. Emptiness and Not-Doing (Wu Wei) ++
Abstaining from speech marks him who is obeying the spontaneity of his nature.
A fierce wind soon falleth; a storm-shower doth not last all day.
Yet Heaven and Earth cause these; and if they fail to make such violence
continue, how much less can man abide in spasm of passion!
Therefore he who pursues his affairs in the spirit of Dao will become Dao-like.
He who pursues his affairs with de*, will become de-like*.
He who pursues his affairs with loss, identifies himself with loss.
He who identifies himself with Dao, Dao rejoices to guide.
He who identifies himself with de*, de* rejoices to reward.
And he who identifies himself with loss, loss rejoices to ruin.
But if he himself realize not the Tao with calm of confidence,
then others seem also to lack in confidence in him.
+Title by DT Susuki, translation by A. Crowley.
++ Title by Dwight Goddard, verse translation includes James Legge, A. Crowley & Dwight Goddard.
*Chinese 'de' is an ancient and linguistically complex word.
Arthur Waley (1958):
It is usually translated 'virtue', and this often seems to work quite well; though where the word occurs in early, pre-moralistic texts such a translation is in reality quite false. But if we study the usage of the word carefully we find that te can be bad as well as good. What is a 'bad virtue'? Clearly 'virtue' is not a satisfactory equivalent. Indeed on examining the history of the word we find that it means something much more like the Indian karma, save that the fruits of te are generally manifested here and now; whereas karma is bound up with a theory of transmigration, and its effects are usually not seen in this life, but in a subsequent incarnation. Te is anything that happens to one or that one does of a kind indicating that, as a consequence, one is going to meet with good or bad luck. It means, so to speak, the stock of credit (or the deficit) that at any given moment a man has at the bank of fortune. Such a stock is of course built up partly by the correct carrying out of ritual; but primarily by securing favourable omens; for unless the omens are favourable, no rite can be carried out at all.
Peter A. Boodberg (1979):
The standard translation for it is "virtue," both in the sense of inherent quality and in that of moral excellence, but with the validity of the traditional rendering somewhat shaken by Arthur Waley's insistence on interpreting it as "power." Indeed, it is believed by many scholars that the term originated in the mytho-magical period of Chinese speculation when tê was conceived as a kind of mana-like potency inherent in substances, things, and human beings, a potency which, on the one hand, made them true to their essence, and on the other, made possible their influencing of other entities. It appears often as if it had been imagined as a kind of electric charge permeating the thing in question, waxing or waning in accordance with some mysterious law, and capable of being transmitted, in the case of living beings, from one generation to another. Contrary-minded students of ancient Chinese philosophy dispute this interpretation as rather narrow and possibly anachronistic, and point to the fact that tê had early acquired, at least in Confucian literature, ethical connotations close to our "virtue," that is, as moral, and only rarely amoral or immoral, efficacy. They find, therefore, no quarrel with rendering tê, almost invariably, as "virtue." Philologists are, however, troubled by the absence in the Chinese term of any connotations reminiscent of the Latin etymon vir, such as manliness and virility. They remind us that tê is free from any contamination with sexual associations and differs in that from its great counterpart, tao, the Way, which, in one or two expressions, such as jên tao 人道, "the way of men and women," is suggestive of sexual activity. Other recommended translation, such as "energy" and essential quality," seem also inadequate from the etymological point of view.
Are those in the public domain, Telarus? I know that certain translations are copyrighted and we don't want any more legal problems.
more?
did i miss anything?
Quote from: Triple Zero on April 01, 2009, 01:16:41 AM
more?
did i miss anything?
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19570.0 :wink:
Good point Iason.
Crowley's translation comes from:
http://deoxy.org/taowley.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/index.htm
The other bits that I incorporated come from:
http://www.yellowbridge.com/onlinelit/daodejing.php (which sources sacred-texts.com and Project Gutenburg).
These all seem to be public domain sources. As I am not quoting a majority of the work(s) and I am blending translations in order to achieve a better flow, I would consider this a transformative work and fair use, anyway.
The quotes about 'de' come from wikipedia.
It's done.
http://tinyurl.com/intermittens5 <---- CLICKY CLICKY
The editor's note on page 6 is rofltastic.
the whole thing is
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/mittens2.gif)
rock on, Cainad! Great work!
:mittens:
Excellent job, Cainad!
Excellente! Though, it loads really slow, but I think it's because my Adobe program is fuxxored.
:mittens:
:mittens: Wow, looks great, Cainad!
Quote from: Cainad on April 08, 2009, 08:07:57 PM
It's done.
http://tinyurl.com/intermittens5 <---- CLICKY CLICKY
It's amazing.
:mittens:
However, the heresies #1 has now been published 3 times, and I hate 5s, so that's it. No mas. THE GRAVY TRAIN HAS REACHED THE END OF THE FUCKING LINE. Instead, I will be happy to write specifically for upcoming issues, topic to be determined by you, the editors, and might even have something to do with what I actually write. If this is unacceptable, please inform me by mail with a SASE, so I can track you down, kick off your head, and shit 30 pounds or so of my vile, parasite-infested feces into your esophagus.
Why the fuck would anyone be an editor? Just asking.
TGRR,
Mystified by masochists.
:lulz: I probably could have spent some more time digging through your vast collection of works. The lazy won out in the end, and I went with the first thing that I recalled.
I gotta say, for your first time doing any sort of magazine-style layout, this is really well-done.
You've never used scribd before, yes? Bad ass!
:FFF:
SEE, EVEN CAINAD CAN DO IT
Quote from: Cainad on April 09, 2009, 03:48:28 AM
:lulz: I probably could have spent some more time digging through your vast collection of works. The lazy won out in the end, and I went with the first thing that I recalled.
You shoulda just hit the archive. It's all there.
And it's not like this has to be the 'final' version of #5 or whatever.
Nice work!
I haven't read all of it yet--just saw it, but what I saw looked good.
I do have a sore spot, though, as Nigel's "Shut the fuck up" appears in Issue 5.
QuoteAuthor: Nigel
Shut the fuck up.
« on: January 23, 2009, 10:39:06 AM »
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 12, 2009, 04:46:15 PM
Intermittens 7: Operation Mindfuck wants this. If anybody needs an OM, it's the people described in this rant.
Nigel: Please supply me with your name, rank, and cereal number. Actually, name you want to use for this (Nigel?) and is it kopyleft or what?
Quote from: Nigel on February 12, 2009, 05:57:00 PM
"Nigel" is fine. I keep meaning to come up with something more pompously Discordian-sounding, but nothing comes to mind so I guess I'll stay Nigel. Technically I'm a minister so it could be Rev. Nigel I guess. Kopyleft.
I'm assuming the editor of number 5 didn't see those posts. :?
or you took too long. wasnt your issue supposted to be out before jake day?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2009, 03:44:16 AM
Quote from: Cainad on April 08, 2009, 08:07:57 PM
It's done.
http://tinyurl.com/intermittens5 <---- CLICKY CLICKY
It's amazing.
:mittens:
However, the heresies #1 has now been published 3 times, and I hate 5s, so that's it. No mas. THE GRAVY TRAIN HAS REACHED THE END OF THE FUCKING LINE. Instead, I will be happy to write specifically for upcoming issues, topic to be determined by you, the editors, and might even have something to do with what I actually write. If this is unacceptable, please inform me by mail with a SASE, so I can track you down, kick off your head, and shit 30 pounds or so of my vile, parasite-infested feces into your esophagus.
Why the fuck would anyone be an editor? Just asking.
TGRR,
Mystified by masochists.
I has just the very commission for you. You know what the BOtSG did for the bible? How do you think you'd fare doing something similar for new-age/wicca/cabala/myticism?
I'm looking for one page worth of every ridiculous claim that Gerald Gardiner or Elrond Hubbard ever made, but made even more ridiculous if poss. How discordianism can help if your astral plane is hijacked by terrurists or how we can supply you with sigils that make you bulletproof... I'm thinking of every ad I ever saw for "The Secret" and "What the $£%^$@"
Also some quantum theory might help add some credibility.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on April 09, 2009, 05:46:59 AM
I haven't read all of it yet--just saw it, but what I saw looked good.
I do have a sore spot, though, as Nigel's "Shut the fuck up" appears in Issue 5.
QuoteAuthor: Nigel
Shut the fuck up.
« on: January 23, 2009, 10:39:06 AM »
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 12, 2009, 04:46:15 PM
Intermittens 7: Operation Mindfuck wants this. If anybody needs an OM, it's the people described in this rant.
Nigel: Please supply me with your name, rank, and cereal number. Actually, name you want to use for this (Nigel?) and is it kopyleft or what?
Quote from: Nigel on February 12, 2009, 05:57:00 PM
"Nigel" is fine. I keep meaning to come up with something more pompously Discordian-sounding, but nothing comes to mind so I guess I'll stay Nigel. Technically I'm a minister so it could be Rev. Nigel I guess. Kopyleft.
I'm assuming the editor of number 5 didn't see those posts. :?
Nope, did you see this one?
Quote from: Nigel on February 11, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
Hey, if anyone doing an Intermittens is interested, I'd like to nominate my "Shut the fuck up" rant for it.
Sorry. Shit happens.
Quote from: Telarus on April 09, 2009, 05:08:43 AM
And it's not like this has to be the 'final' version of #5 or whatever.
Troof. I'm already seeing things I'd like to change. But not right now.
what the fuck ?
the law of 5s is bullshit as everyone knows now
read current things.
uploaded to scribd:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14101632/Intermittens-Issue-5-the-Law-of-Fives-edited-by-Cainad
Quote from: Cainad on April 09, 2009, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: Sheered Völva on April 09, 2009, 05:46:59 AM
I haven't read all of it yet--just saw it, but what I saw looked good.
I do have a sore spot, though, as Nigel's "Shut the fuck up" appears in Issue 5.
QuoteAuthor: Nigel
Shut the fuck up.
« on: January 23, 2009, 10:39:06 AM »
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 12, 2009, 04:46:15 PM
Intermittens 7: Operation Mindfuck wants this. If anybody needs an OM, it's the people described in this rant.
Nigel: Please supply me with your name, rank, and cereal number. Actually, name you want to use for this (Nigel?) and is it kopyleft or what?
Quote from: Nigel on February 12, 2009, 05:57:00 PM
"Nigel" is fine. I keep meaning to come up with something more pompously Discordian-sounding, but nothing comes to mind so I guess I'll stay Nigel. Technically I'm a minister so it could be Rev. Nigel I guess. Kopyleft.
I'm assuming the editor of number 5 didn't see those posts. :?
Nope, did you see this one?
Quote from: Nigel on February 11, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
Hey, if anyone doing an Intermittens is interested, I'd like to nominate my "Shut the fuck up" rant for it.
Sorry. Shit happens.
Yes, I did, and responded to it. Did you see my response to Nigel's post in that same thread?
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 12, 2009, 04:42:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 11, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
Hey, if anyone doing an Intermittens is interested, I'd like to nominate my "Shut the fuck up" rant for it.
With apologies to the Editor of Number Five (sorry, your name keeps changing), Nigel opened this up to any editor. I realize this is posted in the Number Five thread, but the original rant isn't, and I did just give my blessings for you to use something I wanted (which was posted here).
To make a long story short, I want this for Issue 7 Operation Mindfuck. It's not a mindfuck, but really seems to fit the theme. This talkers are the people who need OMs.
I will promise, however, that in compensation I will look for 5-related stuff, and let you know what I find.
Is this all right?
-- The Sweet, Gentle, Considerate and Kind Editor of Issue 7
(who wants a rant about beating people to bloody death with a hammer)
I'm not going to beat a dead horse, shit happens, nobody's perfect, I could have emailed you about it, etc. And the most important thing is that Nigel's piece got used. Congrats to Cainad on your issue!
But it does raise a problem that maybe us spags can prevent in the future. If this happened once, it's bound to happen again. Another piece nearly got used in two issues. I marked that I wanted Nigel's rant in both the thread where it appeared and in the thread where it was offered. My attempt obviously failed.
Anybody have an idea how editors can mark something they want to use for their issue so this doesn't happen again?
Quote from: smokngoat on April 09, 2009, 03:26:43 PM
what the fuck ?
the law of 5s is bullshit as everyone knows now
read current things.
Yep, you're right. Everyone knows it. Just saw a survey done by An Important Survey Corporation.
Top Five Most Known Laws and the percentage of people who know them (in reverse order):
5) Law of Thermodynamics: 45%
4) Law of Gravity: 68%
3) Law of Death and Taxes: 74%
2) Law of If Two Trains Meet on a Track They Must Each Wait Until The Other One Passes Before They Move: 86%
1) Law of Fives: 100%
Good question. Maybe we need an "Posts that an editor's called dibbs on" thread. Or wiki page. My counter-question, however: what happens if someone calls dibbs on an article and never gets around to finishing it? That article will be stuck in limbo indefinitely.
Unrelated:
intermittens.org (http://intermittens.org) is brand new redesigned for ease of collaboration and totally bad ass testicle, go there check it out
Also, if people submit articles via intermittens.org, then we'll see which issues they're being pulled for.
Quote from: Cramulus on April 09, 2009, 11:23:55 PM
Good question. Maybe we need an "Posts that an editor's called dibbs on" thread. Or wiki page. My counter-question, however: what happens if someone calls dibbs on an article and never gets around to finishing it? That article will be stuck in limbo indefinitely.
Unrelated:
intermittens.org (http://intermittens.org) is brand new redesigned for ease of collaboration and totally bad ass testicle, go there check it out
Great idea, but maybe these two can be related. Could we have a place on the intermittens site where this could be done? If the idea is that we don't want this to be the "PD.COM SPAGS ONLY" magazine, I think it would be great to have it at the intermittens site.
Quote from: Ratatosk on April 09, 2009, 11:25:57 PM
Also, if people submit articles via intermittens.org, then we'll see which issues they're being pulled for.
Ratatosk, that's a cool idea, but I suggest an alteration. Not every article that will be used will be submitted to that site, and any given editor won't use everything that's submitted.
What if there were a place on the site where each editor could list what's going to be used for an issue? And as some editors (including myself) might not want to reveal the entire contents of their issue before it goes to press, maybe it could be accessible only by fellow editors and the site mods.
What think, spags?
Quote from: Yάttᶿ on April 09, 2009, 09:37:35 AM
or you took too long. wasnt your issue supposted to be out before jake day?
Um, no. The month I listed was May 2009.
And besides, Jake Day is "traditionally" either April 6 (23 Discord) or May 23 (50 Discord). Either way, this issue came out before or very close to Jake Day.
But in any case, what happened happened. Right now some of us spags are working on a solution to this little problem so it can be prevented in the future.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on April 09, 2009, 11:17:05 PM
Yes, I did, and responded to it. Did you see my response to Nigel's post in that same thread?
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 12, 2009, 04:42:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 11, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
Hey, if anyone doing an Intermittens is interested, I'd like to nominate my "Shut the fuck up" rant for it.
With apologies to the Editor of Number Five (sorry, your name keeps changing), Nigel opened this up to any editor. I realize this is posted in the Number Five thread, but the original rant isn't, and I did just give my blessings for you to use something I wanted (which was posted here).
To make a long story short, I want this for Issue 7 Operation Mindfuck. It's not a mindfuck, but really seems to fit the theme. This talkers are the people who need OMs.
I will promise, however, that in compensation I will look for 5-related stuff, and let you know what I find.
Is this all right?
-- The Sweet, Gentle, Considerate and Kind Editor of Issue 7
(who wants a rant about beating people to bloody death with a hammer)
I'm not going to beat a dead horse, shit happens, nobody's perfect, I could have emailed you about it, etc. And the most important thing is that Nigel's piece got used. Congrats to Cainad on your issue!
But it does raise a problem that maybe us spags can prevent in the future. If this happened once, it's bound to happen again. Another piece nearly got used in two issues. I marked that I wanted Nigel's rant in both the thread where it appeared and in the thread where it was offered. My attempt obviously failed.
Anybody have an idea how editors can mark something they want to use for their issue so this doesn't happen again?
Well, part of the problem was that I didn't take over editing until several pages later, so it's my fault for skimming the thread. But you're right, there should be a means by which we can avoid this in the future.
Well, for the site, we have a couple things going.
First if users Submit through the site, they can select the Issue that they are submitting the article to. So each editor can see what's been submitted to their upcoming issue. Also, they can submit to Uncategorized and anything an editor finds there, they can shift to their own category.
As for submissions from other venues posts etc, we also setting up a forum and pm for specific issue discussions and we could have a 'in progress' list of what articles are currently under development for each issue or something like that?
Quote from: Sheered Völva on April 09, 2009, 11:40:33 PM
Quote from: Yάttᶿ on April 09, 2009, 09:37:35 AM
or you took too long. wasnt your issue supposted to be out before jake day?
Um, no. The month I listed was May 2009.
And besides, Jake Day is "traditionally" either April 6 (23 Discord) or May 23 (50 Discord). Either way, this issue came out before or very close to Jake Day.
But in any case, what happened happened. Right now some of us spags are working on a solution to this little problem so it can be prevented in the future.
You want to use one of these?:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=17983.0
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=15381.0
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=15380.0
Apologies if someone else already used one, I honestly have not been keeping track at all.
I'm going to unsticky this and sticky Intermittens #6, alright?
maybe calling dibs gives you say 15 days of exclusivity
(how many days do editors really need?)
after which you need a pention to be extended
Quote from: Yάttᶿ on April 10, 2009, 12:35:29 PM
maybe calling dibs gives you say 15 days of exclusivity
(how many days do editors really need?)
after which you need a pention to be extended
That actually sounds reasonable. Maybe 30 days.
goood that said id like to be the first pention
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2009, 12:54:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2009, 03:44:16 AM
Quote from: Cainad on April 08, 2009, 08:07:57 PM
It's done.
http://tinyurl.com/intermittens5 <---- CLICKY CLICKY
It's amazing.
:mittens:
However, the heresies #1 has now been published 3 times, and I hate 5s, so that's it. No mas. THE GRAVY TRAIN HAS REACHED THE END OF THE FUCKING LINE. Instead, I will be happy to write specifically for upcoming issues, topic to be determined by you, the editors, and might even have something to do with what I actually write. If this is unacceptable, please inform me by mail with a SASE, so I can track you down, kick off your head, and shit 30 pounds or so of my vile, parasite-infested feces into your esophagus.
Why the fuck would anyone be an editor? Just asking.
TGRR,
Mystified by masochists.
I has just the very commission for you. You know what the BOtSG did for the bible? How do you think you'd fare doing something similar for new-age/wicca/cabala/myticism?
I'm looking for one page worth of every ridiculous claim that Gerald Gardiner or Elrond Hubbard ever made, but made even more ridiculous if poss. How discordianism can help if your astral plane is hijacked by terrurists or how we can supply you with sigils that make you bulletproof... I'm thinking of every ad I ever saw for "The Secret" and "What the $£%^$@"
Also some quantum theory might help add some credibility.
Um. That sounds like WORK.
Let me think about it for a day or three. In any case, I can't commit to that until I finish the manual.
In light of recent disputes over licensing and money concerns, I will state my position as editor of this issue as clearly as I can:
As with all issues of Intermittens, issue #5 is to be freely distributed as an online PDF. Anyone can host it and post links as long as editorship and authorship is properly credited (i.e. don't edit the PDF to remove or change names).
Under no circumstances will I sell issue #5 for any price, either as a print copy or on a CD or some other digital medium. If I distribute issue #5 in real life it will be entirely at my own expense. If someone wants to sell a print copy of issue #5 for any price whatsoever, speak with myself and the authors first to discuss terms. I personally will accept selling issue #5 for a price equal to or less than the cost of printing, but if any of the contributors object then the person looking to sell will have to negotiate with said contributors.
Right on, Cainad!
Quote from: Nigel on April 10, 2009, 02:45:04 AM
Quote from: Sheered Völva on April 09, 2009, 11:40:33 PM
Quote from: Yάttᶿ on April 09, 2009, 09:37:35 AM
or you took too long. wasnt your issue supposted to be out before jake day?
Um, no. The month I listed was May 2009.
And besides, Jake Day is "traditionally" either April 6 (23 Discord) or May 23 (50 Discord). Either way, this issue came out before or very close to Jake Day.
But in any case, what happened happened. Right now some of us spags are working on a solution to this little problem so it can be prevented in the future.
You want to use one of these?:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=17983.0
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=15381.0
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=15380.0
Apologies if someone else already used one, I honestly have not been keeping track at all.
I claim Mutton Chops for Intermittens: Operation Mindfuck. It did a mindfuck on me.
And I have to ask, how could the same person have possibly written all three pieces? Either you're really strange, or you're very creative.
I'm pretty sure she's both ;-)
:lulz:
Thanks!