I decided to go ahead and eat nothing but cheeseburgers this month. I'm kind of still working my way up to it, but I started a blog:
http://cheeseburgerexperiment.blogspot.com/
:x
:x
Farewell to hawtness.
:cry:
:lulz:
What could go wrong?
Wait, only BK burgers, you poor soul
Quote from: Nigel on October 02, 2009, 09:37:17 PM
I decided to go ahead and eat nothing but cheeseburgers this month. I'm kind of still working my way up to it, but I started a blog:
http://cheeseburgerexperiment.blogspot.com/
did you watch the fat head movie we were talking about in the other thread?
if you keep carbs under 100 grams pr day and total calories appropriate (or under) for your activity level you may be OK and actually drop a few pounds... i suspect burger burnout will kill the experiment before the results are in...
You should try one of the low-carb burgers from Carl's jr.
Basically, they wrap the burger in lettuce instead of using bread.
Also, Burger King sucks.
You're out of your damn mind.
That's not a value judgment of you or your actions, btw. Just stating a fact.
Quote from: Cainad on October 03, 2009, 01:44:37 AM
You're out of your damn mind.
That's not a value judgment of you or your actions, btw. Just stating a fact.
This.
NO NIGEL DON'T DO IT
<3 ATTACK CITY! :x
I'm disappointed that you picked BK instead of Wendy's. BACONATOR OR GTFO!
:bacon:
the fuck Nigel, the fuck.
Also- how long will you do this?
You are a brave, brave soul to sacrifice yourself to the sake of Science like this. :cry:
Good luck!
I had more confidence in your experiment to eat nothing but potatoes for a month.
Nigel, Whyyyyyyy!?!
i have worked in fast food and catering for several years. Seemingly, i would rather give myself near-on alcohol poisoning than eat BK ever again.
but when I did have to eat that shit daily, i used to have the burgers and the grilled shit, rather than fries and deep fried chicken stuff.
smell of beef grease makes me want to hurl these days.
I decided to go ahead and eat nothing but placentas this month. I'm kind of still working my way up to it, but I started a blog:
http://deliciousplacentas.blogspot.com/ (http://alturl.com/9wy5)
Quote from: Cramulus on October 03, 2009, 08:53:13 PM
I decided to go ahead and eat nothing but placentas this month. I'm kind of still working my way up to it, but I started a blog:
http://deliciousplacentas.blogspot.com/ (http://alturl.com/9wy5)
:lulz:
Quote from: Cramulus on October 03, 2009, 08:53:13 PM
I decided to go ahead and eat nothing but placentas this month. I'm kind of still working my way up to it, but I started a blog:
http://deliciousplacentas.blogspot.com/ (http://alturl.com/9wy5)
This is actually a way better idea. Placentas have a certain amount of nutritional value.
Quote from: Cramulus on October 03, 2009, 08:53:13 PM
I decided to go ahead and eat nothing but placentas this month. I'm kind of still working my way up to it, but I started a blog:
http://deliciousplacentas.blogspot.com/ (http://alturl.com/9wy5)
:lulz:
CRAM YOU DAMNULUS! :crankey:
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on October 02, 2009, 11:36:46 PM
You should try one of the low-carb burgers from Carl's jr.
Basically, they wrap the burger in lettuce instead of using bread.
Also, Burger King sucks.
Still 700 calories.
570 :roll:
Yeah! 570, stupid! :crankey:
:lulz:
Quote from: fomenter on October 04, 2009, 05:41:42 AM
570 :roll:
Really?
Hrm, looking at more than one calorie counting site, there's a bunch of different listings, 490 is the most common.
got that off Carl's junior's own site...
http://walking.about.com/cs/calories/l/blcalcalc.htm to calculate per day calorie needs based on height weight and activity level
Hrm 570 then.
Quote from: fomenter on October 04, 2009, 07:11:52 AM
got that off Carl's junior's own site...
http://walking.about.com/cs/calories/l/blcalcalc.htm to calculate per day calorie needs based on height weight and activity level
Was that the Low-Carb-Six-Dollar-Burger?
Cuz, I'm sure they would low-carb a regular 1/3lb burger if you asked them to.
Hardee's (same company, different name) lists the 1/3lb low-carb thickburger at 420 calories.
http://www.hardees.com/menu/
ETA: $6 burger has a 1/2lb patty.
I worked at Hardees for a year, so I R Hardee's expert.
yep the 6 dollar burger version
the calorie calculator said i can have three a day if i am sedentary... :|
Quote from: fomenter on October 02, 2009, 11:17:12 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 02, 2009, 09:37:17 PM
I decided to go ahead and eat nothing but cheeseburgers this month. I'm kind of still working my way up to it, but I started a blog:
http://cheeseburgerexperiment.blogspot.com/
did you watch the fat head movie we were talking about in the other thread?
if you keep carbs under 100 grams pr day and total calories appropriate (or under) for your activity level you may be OK and actually drop a few pounds... i suspect burger burnout will kill the experiment before the results are in...
No, i haven't yet.
You have no idea of my tenacity in the food-eating department.
I'm mainly curious about how homeless people fare, because they often get most of their calories from cheap fast food, since there aren't enough soup kitchens, and lack facilities for preparing the stuff that food banks give out.
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 03, 2009, 10:41:40 AM
I had more confidence in your experiment to eat nothing but potatoes for a month.
That went by the wayside because my partner crapped out on me, sadly.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 03, 2009, 05:01:54 AM
I'm disappointed that you picked BK instead of Wendy's. BACONATOR OR GTFO!
:bacon:
I can get my cheeseburgers anywhere; the goal is to feed myself with the cheapest calories.
Quote from: Squid on October 03, 2009, 07:10:48 AM
the fuck Nigel, the fuck.
Also- how long will you do this?
A month.
Quote from: Cramulus on October 03, 2009, 08:53:13 PM
I decided to go ahead and eat nothing but placentas this month. I'm kind of still working my way up to it, but I started a blog:
http://deliciousplacentas.blogspot.com/ (http://alturl.com/9wy5)
:lulz: You bastard!
Also, I would be kicked off of some forums for posting this many times in a row.
:lulz: bad wrong repeat posting :eek:
Quote from: Nigel on October 04, 2009, 06:29:53 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 03, 2009, 05:01:54 AM
I'm disappointed that you picked BK instead of Wendy's. BACONATOR OR GTFO!
:bacon:
I can get my cheeseburgers anywhere; the goal is to feed myself with the cheapest calories.
cheapest? I thought you liked lard so much ...
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 04, 2009, 06:42:49 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 04, 2009, 06:29:53 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 03, 2009, 05:01:54 AM
I'm disappointed that you picked BK instead of Wendy's. BACONATOR OR GTFO!
:bacon:
I can get my cheeseburgers anywhere; the goal is to feed myself with the cheapest calories.
cheapest? I thought you liked lard so much ...
Quote
The calorie-per-penny breakdown:
BK double cheeseburger special: 4.95 calories per penny (!)
BK single cheeseburger: 3.43 calories per penny
BK Whopper Jr. w/cheese: 3.36 calories per penny
McD single cheeseburger: 3 calories per penny
Granted, I could get more calories per penny by eating a loaf of wonder bread or a block of lard, but, in theory anyway, a cheeseburger has enough nutritional value to not be a death sentence were one to eat them long-term.
From http://cheeseburgerexperiment.blogspot.com/
Also:
Quote from: Nigel on October 04, 2009, 06:28:13 PM
I'm mainly curious about how homeless people fare, because they often get most of their calories from cheap fast food, since there aren't enough soup kitchens, and lack facilities for preparing the stuff that food banks give out.
Also, in order to get fat a'la Morgan Spurlock, I would have to eat the disgustingly large quantities that he ate. He was eating about 4000 calories a DAY. He was eating fries and soda and enormous sandwiches, some of them fried. Eating cheeseburgers is not, somehow, automagically going to make me fat. I would have to eat FIVE Whopper Jrs w/cheese A DAY to get to my break-even point. FIVE. I cannot eat five cheeseburgers a day. I ate three yesterday, and that was as many as I wanted to eat. I was going to have another one and I couldn't. I just couldn't.
So, you're seriously doing this?
Malnutritioning your own body just to experience how homeless people fare?
In all honesty, this sounds like one of the most stupid ideas (regarding food etc) I have ever heard.
based on the quick calculations i did for my height and weight you should be fine calorie wise...
i don't see any reason why one month would cause malnutrition (not an expert) but i am curious how it all works out... i suspect eating cheese burgers alone is somewhat more limited than most poor peoples diet (but i don't know for sure..)
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 04, 2009, 07:23:17 PM
So, you're seriously doing this?
Malnutritioning your own body just to experience how homeless people fare?
In all honesty, this sounds like one of the most stupid ideas (regarding food etc) I have ever heard.
How are you getting the idea of malnutrition from a month of cheeseburgers? They have meat, cheese, bread, and even vegetables.
I am simply curious about how it will make me feel. Have you never had that thought? Have you no sense of adventure?
Besides, it amuses me.
Nigel, I'd ask you to please not do this for your health's sake, but I know that won't work so I'll just ask you to please PLEASE visit a doctor once a week while doing this.
heh heh i think everyone is over reacting, nigel will live, and now im craving cheeseburgers
:eek: "meat is death" ITT :eek:
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
No, eating fast food alone is unhealthy.
humans are incredibly tough and resistant creatures w/o having some preexisting health condition this experiment is harmless, any effect will take a week or two of normal diet to correct and i would be very surprised if it has any effect at all.... besides making her sick of cheeseburgers..
Question:
Do they have to be fast food burgers for this experiment or can they be home made yumburgers?
I love me a nice tasty burger fresh off the grill and into my FACEHOLE!
Quote from: Nigel on October 04, 2009, 09:17:23 PM
How are you getting the idea of malnutrition from a month of cheeseburgers? They have meat, cheese, bread, and even vegetables.
maybe you have better cheeseburgers then.
TBH I was thinking of McDonalds cheeseburgers, but you said Burger King, and I remember that their "whoppers" actually have reasonably thick slices of tomato that you can actually taste. I don't know the other burger chains you mentioned.
QuoteI am simply curious about how it will make me feel. Have you never had that thought? Have you no sense of adventure?
Besides, it amuses me.
eating cheeseburgers for a month is not really my idea of adventure :) but if it amuses you, well I'm not gonna stop you or anything.
I just think it's a stupid idea. I also don't think it's gonna be that bad for your health, well as fomenter said, maybe a week or two to adjust at most (couple of days would be what I'd expect, actually). You're gonna survive no problem, just apart from the "it amuses me" factor I see no reason to do it cause you are still hurting your body for no other reason than that it amuses you. I respect my body a bit too much to do that.
Quote from: Squid on October 05, 2009, 02:16:05 AM
Question:
Do they have to be fast food burgers for this experiment or can they be home made yumburgers?
I love me a nice tasty burger fresh off the grill and into my FACEHOLE!
This.
Also, is there a cost breakdown between a fast-food burger and a make-your-own burger?
having worked at a fast food place for more than a year, i can predict how Nigel will feel after this experiment.
Bloated, tired and constipated.
but if you are quite active there should be no weight gain.
I'd like to discourage the idea.
I am not able to eat BK any more. Smell of the place just turns me right off.
Quote from: Kai on October 05, 2009, 01:13:08 AM
Nigel, I'd ask you to please not do this for your health's sake, but I know that won't work so I'll just ask you to please PLEASE visit a doctor once a week while doing this.
Kai, I'm sorry, but that's retarded and a complete overreaction.
I'm terribly amused by the level of overreaction I've gotten from this project. My sister is freaking out.
Think for a moment: If I said "I am going to eat nothing but chicken sandwiches for a month" no one would think it anything but vaguely eccentric. Certainly no one would advise me to go to the doctor once a week. It's a knee-jerk reaction to the word "cheeseburger".
There is absolutely no fathomable reason to go to the doctor once a week. None. The only significant change to my nutritional profile is that I will be getting far less fiber than usual, unless I can find a place that has whole wheat buns.
Quote from: Fredtastic! on October 05, 2009, 02:00:13 AM
heh heh i think everyone is over reacting, nigel will live, and now im craving cheeseburgers
Hahaha! Yes. This.
I'm actually interested in the result.
I also am enjoying the blog.
jizzmayo :lulz:
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 12:49:48 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 05, 2009, 02:16:05 AM
Question:
Do they have to be fast food burgers for this experiment or can they be home made yumburgers?
I love me a nice tasty burger fresh off the grill and into my FACEHOLE!
This.
Also, is there a cost breakdown between a fast-food burger and a make-your-own burger?
I can have homemade, or fancy restaurant burgers, but it kind of violates the spirit of the experiment, if not the letter. I haven't done a cost breakdown for homemade but it's probably fairly expensive compared to fast-food.
What are you guys going to do when it turns out that nothing at all happens as a result of eating cheeseburgers for a month?
I'm gonna smash my balls with brick!!
Quote from: Squid on October 05, 2009, 02:08:01 PM
I'm actually interested in the result.
I also am enjoying the blog.
jizzmayo :lulz:
:) thanks!
I am enjoying them a great deal more sans mayo. Although I realized that probably knocks the calorie content back by at least 50 and I might need to eat four instead of three.
"Nothing at all"?
Or, "nothing like we predicted"?
I predict you will get utterly sick of cheeseburgers very quickly.
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 02:14:39 PM
"Nothing at all"?
Or, "nothing like we predicted"?
I predict you will get utterly sick of cheeseburgers very quickly.
I don't actually like cheeseburgers, at all. I'm not stupid enough to do this with a food that I LIKE. :lulz:
My predictions:
I'll be constipated for a week until my body adjusts to the decrease in fiber.
I'll lose five to ten pounds.
Basically, nothing else will happen.
You'll also be giving away a larger percentage of your income to a corporate fast food chain that's partially responsible for rainforest destruction.
i predict instead of healthy fiber poop you will have the runs alot :lulz:
I'm gonna go with more kitty-like turds.
Kinda small, so you don't really feel emptied.
:lulz: Now I'm curious about what it's gonna do to your bowels! :lulz:
Please inform us (or at least pm me if no one else wants to hear)
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 02:19:54 PM
You'll also be giving away a larger percentage of your income to a corporate fast food chain that's partially responsible for rainforest destruction.
Ooooh, pulling out the environmental guilt card! :lulz:
Actually, I'll be spreading the love around a bit. No McDonald's, though, because their buns are gross.
Quote from: Squid on October 05, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
I'm gonna go with more kitty-like turds.
Kinda small, so you don't really feel emptied.
:lulz: Now I'm curious about what it's gonna do to your bowels! :lulz:
Please inform us (or at least pm me if no one else wants to hear)
I'll be posting poop updates on my blog. :)
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 02:28:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 02:19:54 PM
You'll also be giving away a larger percentage of your income to a corporate fast food chain that's partially responsible for rainforest destruction.
Ooooh, pulling out the environmental guilt card! :lulz:
Actually, I'll be spreading the love around a bit. No McDonald's, though, because their buns are gross.
I'm just contesting your claim that "nothing" will happen as a result.
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 02:28:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 02:19:54 PM
You'll also be giving away a larger percentage of your income to a corporate fast food chain that's partially responsible for rainforest destruction.
Ooooh, pulling out the environmental guilt card! :lulz:
Actually, I'll be spreading the love around a bit. No McDonald's, though, because their buns are gross.
I'm just contesting your claim that "nothing" will happen as a result.
Pedant. :lulz:
How about this: Nothing particularly out of the ordinary will happen to my body as a result.
What about your mind?
I also predict your mentality will be altered in some way.
Actually, McDonald's is the only place here that offers a whole wheat bun for their sandwiches. At least in St. Louis.
I think you will be off red meat for a while after this. I know I would be. Otherwise this is some funny stuff!! :lulz:
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 02:40:21 PM
What about your mind?
I also predict your mentality will be altered in some way.
That possibility is rendered null by the following fact:
Quote from: Cainad on October 03, 2009, 01:44:37 AM
You're out of your damn mind.
That's not a value judgment of you or your actions, btw. Just stating a fact.
Since Nigel has obviously locked away her mentality in a box far outside of Portland, it should not be affected by her actions, unless she decides to take it back in the middle of the experiment.
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 02:28:45 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 05, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
I'm gonna go with more kitty-like turds.
Kinda small, so you don't really feel emptied.
:lulz: Now I'm curious about what it's gonna do to your bowels! :lulz:
Please inform us (or at least pm me if no one else wants to hear)
I'll be posting poop updates on my blog. :)
1. yes please
2. please call this section "The Poop Log"
3. pics
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 02:40:21 PM
What about your mind?
I also predict your mentality will be altered in some way.
I predict high ratios of smug.
btw with chicken sandwiches I would have found it a stupid idea as well
I assumed she was trying to pull a hoax at first, actually :)
Quote from: Khara on October 05, 2009, 02:52:13 PM
Actually, McDonald's is the only place here that offers a whole wheat bun for their sandwiches. At least in St. Louis.
I think you will be off red meat for a while after this. I know I would be. Otherwise this is some funny stuff!! :lulz:
but it's burgers?? are burgers in the US actually that good they remind people of red meat? I mean, it's minced meat with spices right? (and yes minced meat is red meat, but not real proper red meat, usually)
hotdogs are worse, though.
What is "proper" red meat?
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 05, 2009, 02:59:30 PM
but it's burgers?? are burgers in the US actually that good they remind people of red meat? I mean, it's minced meat with spices right? (and yes minced meat is red meat, but not real proper red meat, usually)
hotdogs are worse, though.
If the burger comes off my grill you know beyond a doubt you are eating red meat. If it is from some fast food place..... Eh well.... That is up for debate. The only fast food I eat is McDonald's french fries and that is maybe a couple times a year. It's over priced and greasy. We do pizza or taco hell as our fast food.
Hotdogs are sacred in my house. My children would freak if they ever opened the fridge and found no hotdogs.
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 03:01:56 PM
What is "proper" red meat?
Red meat that hasn't been injected with soy and fillers?
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 05, 2009, 02:59:30 PM
but it's burgers?? are burgers in the US actually that good they remind people of red meat? I mean, it's minced meat with spices right? (and yes minced meat is red meat, but not real proper red meat, usually)
hotdogs are worse, though.
Spices? Maybe. Nothing thrilling.
Usually salt, sometimes pepper.
So yeah, spices.
Quote from: Cramulus on October 05, 2009, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 02:28:45 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 05, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
I'm gonna go with more kitty-like turds.
Kinda small, so you don't really feel emptied.
:lulz: Now I'm curious about what it's gonna do to your bowels! :lulz:
Please inform us (or at least pm me if no one else wants to hear)
I'll be posting poop updates on my blog. :)
1. yes please
2. please call this section "The Poop Log"
3.pics
:lulz: i almost peed!! :lulz:
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 02:40:21 PM
What about your mind?
I also predict your mentality will be altered in some way.
It will definitely be altered in that I will not especially look forward to meal times. It's kind of like eating kibble.
FWIW, the Burger Kings in the US don't use rainforest meat, they use domestic meat. They also have a cage-free policy for their eggs and pork sources. Not saying it's a great company, just sayin'.
Quote from: Cramulus on October 05, 2009, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 02:28:45 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 05, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
I'm gonna go with more kitty-like turds.
Kinda small, so you don't really feel emptied.
:lulz: Now I'm curious about what it's gonna do to your bowels! :lulz:
Please inform us (or at least pm me if no one else wants to hear)
I'll be posting poop updates on my blog. :)
1. yes please
2. please call this section "The Poop Log"
3. pics
:lulz:
Quote from: Khara on October 05, 2009, 03:10:17 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 05, 2009, 02:59:30 PM
but it's burgers?? are burgers in the US actually that good they remind people of red meat? I mean, it's minced meat with spices right? (and yes minced meat is red meat, but not real proper red meat, usually)
hotdogs are worse, though.
If the burger comes off my grill you know beyond a doubt you are eating red meat. If it is from some fast food place..... Eh well.... That is up for debate. The only fast food I eat is McDonald's french fries and that is maybe a couple times a year. It's over priced and greasy. We do pizza or taco hell as our fast food.
Hotdogs are sacred in my house. My children would freak if they ever opened the fridge and found no hotdogs.
We eat a lot of hot dogs, too... and those things really are questionable. Dear god. Assholes and armpits, baby. Assholes and armpits. Sometimes we eat them cold right out of the fridge, like a soft meat-stick.
The poor maligned BK cheeseburger is actually nowhere near as awful as most people assume. The meat is just ground beef... there's nothing in it, no preservatives, no seasonings, it's just cooked to holy hell. The cheese is your basic processed American slice. The bun is the worst part, but no worse than any .99 sack of white buns from the grocery store. Nutritionally, other than the lack of fiber, it's surprisingly adequate. I'm allowing myself to add unlimited condiments, including typical burger vegetables, so my vitamin C won't be lacking. I'm getting plenty of protein and amino acids, and even calcium from the cheese. Which I looked up, and was surprised to find is actual American cheese, not that oil-based "singles" crap.
I am very much enjoying the reactions to the fact that I'm eating cheeseburgers, though. It's very revealing, how intense the mythology is around them as the ultimate junk food. There is a lot of urban legend surrounding them... it's "common knowledge" that they're really fatty, that the meat is filled with preservatives, that it's mostly soy filler, that there's so much sodium in them that you'll go into renal failure if you eat them regularly... none of these things are true, at least not of the BK ones and probably not at the majority of fast-food places. Of course, there's also a weird ingrained belief in Americans that beef is bad for you, and that chicken is good for you. It's very odd, and pretty much nonsensical.
I've been a food experimenter my whole life... I just don't usually tell you guys when I'm doing it. :) Once a year or so I go on a raw food diet, which pisses my best friend off no end because I eat a lot of raw beef and bison and she's convinced I'm going to get worms or e. coli. Once I went on a month-long diet of tinned fish, pickles, and candy, just to see what would happen. (What happens isn't good.) I have a reputation of being able to digest anything, and I view questionable food as a personal challenge. Every once in a while I'll eat something questionable and it will give me a touch of the trots, but it happens so rarely that overall I consider my dietary choices to have done a good job of making me stronger.
When I'm done with this I'll probably do a few weeks of raw food, just to reset my system.
Random fun fact I thought I'd share because it came up in discussion recently
One of my Dad's friends does agricultural machinery maintainence. Turns out, because of the massively bad reputation that McDonalds burgers were getting for quality in the UK, the corporation now only accepts the best available domestic beef for their burgers, as well as cutting down massively on additives. And the farmers love them for it, because they are getting a lot more now in total if they can meet the stringent guidelines that McDonalds expects from its suppliers.
Obviously, I don't know how accurate this is, because I haven't bothered to search out any additional evidence, but I'm prepared to believe the guy I know. I've got no idea what the difference is in other countries, though. Pretty funny if the face of the American burger actually produces better burgers over here than in the US. :lol:
McDonald's here has some kind of fancy 1/3 lb Angus burger now, which I find funny. I don't know why. It's like, they're trying to do upscale fast food.
I have a soft spot for McDonald's ever since they refused to use GMO potatoes and kicked a hole in Monsanto, which had spent years and god knows how many millions developing the potato. Every other major chain had to follow suit, or they'd look bad, and Monsanto had to abandon their Newleaf potato entirely.
:lulz:
I'd go buy an Angus cheeseburger, but their buns really are gross. Maybe they put it on some kind of premium bun. Hmmmm.
While I personally prefer to make my own burgers at home since I trust them more and so I can add whatever deliciousness I want to them, TBH, Burger King's burgers disgust me the least out of the "big 3" fast food places around here and I'll usually go there if we're in a last resort-fast food situation (except when they had whatever god-awful monstrosity with mashed potatoes and whatever else mush burger - the steakhouse or whatever?). Aside from the lack of fiber Nigel mentioned, I don't see this experiment causing anything horribly dramatic to go wrong and if condiments are added, then it'll help with the other nutrients. I almost suggested a multi-vitamin to counteract any deficiencies, but realized that'd go against the spirit of the experiment as most homeless people don't have bottles of vitamins on hand.
I'm interested in the results, but don't really see this as a big-freakout thing especially staying in around the recommended calorie values, etc. Good luck, Nigel!
I should NOT have eaten 2 BK original chicken sandwiches for lunch...no sir. Bad idea. :x
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 06:32:08 PM
I have a soft spot for McDonald's ever since they refused to use GMO potatoes and kicked a hole in Monsanto, which had spent years and god knows how many millions developing the potato. Every other major chain had to follow suit, or they'd look bad, and Monsanto had to abandon their Newleaf potato entirely.
wait really?
*googles*
McDonald's rules! I'm going to go buy some McDonald's next chance I get. And then I will feel greasy after eating it, but I'll be sitting there with a contented smile on my face, knowing that I just patronized a company that pooped on Monsanto.
jack in a box had a "ghipada ??" burger that was "fancy" bread but it may be local only i don't see it on their website..
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on October 05, 2009, 06:57:43 PM
While I personally prefer to make my own burgers at home since I trust them more and so I can add whatever deliciousness I want to them, TBH, Burger King's burgers disgust me the least out of the "big 3" fast food places around here and I'll usually go there if we're in a last resort-fast food situation (except when they had whatever god-awful monstrosity with mashed potatoes and whatever else mush burger - the steakhouse or whatever?). Aside from the lack of fiber Nigel mentioned, I don't see this experiment causing anything horribly dramatic to go wrong and if condiments are added, then it'll help with the other nutrients. I almost suggested a multi-vitamin to counteract any deficiencies, but realized that'd go against the spirit of the experiment as most homeless people don't have bottles of vitamins on hand.
I'm interested in the results, but don't really see this as a big-freakout thing especially staying in around the recommended calorie values, etc. Good luck, Nigel!
Thanks trippin! :)
Fomenter, I'm going to Jack in the Box today, as it happens!
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 06:32:08 PM
McDonald's here has some kind of fancy 1/3 lb Angus burger now, which I find funny. I don't know why. It's like, they're trying to do upscale fast food.
They're trying to emulate Hardee's's/Carl's jr's thickburgers. The original is better and cheaper.
I seem to have lost a couple of pounds since last week.
Right now mah bellay is really full of Sourdough Jack. It was a splurge.
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 12:49:48 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 05, 2009, 02:16:05 AM
Question:
Do they have to be fast food burgers for this experiment or can they be home made yumburgers?
I love me a nice tasty burger fresh off the grill and into my FACEHOLE!
This.
Also, is there a cost breakdown between a fast-food burger and a make-your-own burger?
I can have homemade, or fancy restaurant burgers, but it kind of violates the spirit of the experiment, if not the letter. I haven't done a cost breakdown for homemade but it's probably fairly expensive compared to fast-food.
What are you guys going to do when it turns out that nothing at all happens as a result of eating cheeseburgers for a month?
If you don't factor in the cost of the grill, the yard to keep it in etc it is probably cheaper to make a burger for yourself. But if you are studying homeless people's diets it isn't going to match obviously.
Also, having spent time homeless my experience was that I and the other's without homes got creative about preparing food bank food, rather than surviving on fast food. Plus lots of dumpster diving. $5 for a value meal isn't much to someone with a regular income, but it is to someone who's income comes from spanging and occasional low level drug dealing.
While I myself find fast food burgers gross, I see nothing morally objectionable with your actions.
If you were my family member though, I would probably yell at you. But you're not. So, I'll be sure to be read and enjoy your blog throughout the course of the experiment.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 06, 2009, 02:13:16 AM
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 12:49:48 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 05, 2009, 02:16:05 AM
Question:
Do they have to be fast food burgers for this experiment or can they be home made yumburgers?
I love me a nice tasty burger fresh off the grill and into my FACEHOLE!
This.
Also, is there a cost breakdown between a fast-food burger and a make-your-own burger?
I can have homemade, or fancy restaurant burgers, but it kind of violates the spirit of the experiment, if not the letter. I haven't done a cost breakdown for homemade but it's probably fairly expensive compared to fast-food.
What are you guys going to do when it turns out that nothing at all happens as a result of eating cheeseburgers for a month?
If you don't factor in the cost of the grill, the yard to keep it in etc it is probably cheaper to make a burger for yourself. But if you are studying homeless people's diets it isn't going to match obviously.
Also, having spent time homeless my experience was that I and the other's without homes got creative about preparing food bank food, rather than surviving on fast food. Plus lots of dumpster diving. $5 for a value meal isn't much to someone with a regular income, but it is to someone who's income comes from spanging and occasional low level drug dealing.
Well, the meat alone is hard to come by for less than about $4/lb in my area. That makes a 1/8 lb patty $.50, and buns are usually $1.39/8. now we're up to about $.67, and haven't factored in the cheese, tomato, and other condiments, let alone fuel and a place to prep in. My educated (and fairly seasoned) guess is that raw materials alone for a fast-food-lookalike cheeseburger, for a typical consumer, would cost about what they sell them for, plus fuel and kitchen space, which is not readily accessible for a typical homeless person.
My sister, BTW, is massively pissed at me and probably not talking to me because she is certain I am going to give myself malnutrition, even though I showed her the figures and statistics and it would be impossible.
i am kinda amazed by how much :omg: this generates, especially when a little common sense would tell you its harmless..the food fear propaganda has been programed deep
Quote from: fomenter on October 06, 2009, 08:03:18 AM
i am kinda amazed by how much :omg: this generates, especially when a little common sense would tell you its harmless..the food fear propaganda has been programed deep
Yeah, that aspect so far has been the most compelling.
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 06:02:00 PMI'm allowing myself to add unlimited condiments,including typical burger vegetables, so my vitamin C won't be lacking.
well that pretty much changes the whole deal, at least concerning the health bit.
now it's more like a crazy idea instead of just stupid :)
btw I heard somewhere that Ketchup contains a lot of rather useful nutrients as well.
QuoteI am very much enjoying the reactions to the fact that I'm eating cheeseburgers, though. It's very revealing, how intense the mythology is around them as the ultimate junk food. There is a lot of urban legend surrounding them... it's "common knowledge" that they're really fatty, that the meat is filled with preservatives, that it's mostly soy filler, that there's so much sodium in them that you'll go into renal failure if you eat them regularly... none of these things are true, at least not of the BK ones and probably not at the majority of fast-food places. Of course, there's also a weird ingrained belief in Americans that beef is bad for you, and that chicken is good for you. It's very odd, and pretty much nonsensical.
well I'm real glad for you that you're enjoying reactions that weren't really there.
if you were planning to eat chicken and quality bread for a month with mayo and pickle slices as the only vegetable, I'd say it was a stupid idea just the same.
but once you add salad or more veggies, I don't see much of a problem at all.
I wasn't worried about the stuff that is in cheese burgers, but more about the stuff that is not in cheeseburgers. However, if you treat yourself to some extra slices of tomato and leaf of lettuce in between, it sounds not too bad.
but you gotta have veggies.
QuoteI've been a food experimenter my whole life... I just don't usually tell you guys when I'm doing it. :) Once a year or so I go on a raw food diet, which pisses my best friend off no end because I eat a lot of raw beef and bison and she's convinced I'm going to get worms or e. coli. Once I went on a month-long diet of tinned fish, pickles, and candy, just to see what would happen. (What happens isn't good.) I have a reputation of being able to digest anything, and I view questionable food as a personal challenge. Every once in a while I'll eat something questionable and it will give me a touch of the trots, but it happens so rarely that overall I consider my dietary choices to have done a good job of making me stronger.
Right.
I was waiting for the "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" line to pop up. That's utter bullshit.
Eating cheeseburgers for a month isn't going to make you stronger.
It may not kill you, but you are young now and think your body can take everything and bounce back like a piece of elastic no matter how much you mistreat it, but just like gaining and losing weight, they are not exactly the reverse of eachother, no damage to your body is completely reversible, which may not be noticeable right now, but possibly later.
And for the resetting of the system, try fasting+herbal tea (I forget what kind, ask around), works better than raw food.
No you're not going to die, no you probably won't even get sick. You'll feel like ass, I'm sure, but all that aside does that make it a better idea? No, not really.
The beef might be additive free, which I doubt, but having a few more slices of tomato on there aren't going to make a shit ton of difference. A lot of vegetables sent to fast food chains are picked and shipped well before they're ripened in order to keep them lasting longer. What that results in is a lower nutritional value than a vegetable should be. This applies to most grocery stores as well, but the assumption with them is that you're eating more than, say, two or three slices max on a burger bun. They also use iceberg lettuce, which is essentially worth -0- anything. Ketchup might add a few nutrients but not really enough to counter the insane amount of sugar in it (Trip 0, from what I understand Europe has a more tomato-ey ketchup style than America, where it's basically tomato candy).
The fact of the matter is that all the "food propaganda" that's being spurned in this thread might be misinformed, but so is the nutritional propaganda put out by fast food companies. A whole wheat bun, for example, can claim it's whole wheat but in reality might contain a negligible amount of actual whole wheat. The language for is not heavily regulated by the FDA.
For example, BK might have a strict cage-free chicken and egg policy or, insanely, a grass fed beef policy. That doesn't mean that either animal is raised in a healthy habitat. All cows are grass fed when they're young but are then switched to corn feed. That's still grass fed beef. Grass finished or 100% grass fed is the language to denote beef that eats grass its entire life span.
Nutritionally-enhanced claims, mostly in bread, are almost laughably stupid. It's great that they add more vitamin-craze-of-the-month into shit, I guess, but that's operating under the assumption that food scientists know more about food than nature does. Our food is subdivided into nutrients and vitamins instead of a tomato just being a goddamn tomato. I would prefer to throw my trust and support on foods that have been consumed for the majority of human existence than on modern fad foods that have only been around for 60 years or so.
So yes, a resilient human body and the small measures of nutrition available in fast food burgers will probably help you survive a month. Hell, who knows, you might even be able to go for a few years on it. That doesn't make it a good idea. If you're that curious to know what it's like to be homeless, go be homeless. I could probably save you the time and money by just informing you that it probably sucks.
Nigel the blog is entertaining as hell
:lulz:
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 06, 2009, 04:37:44 PM
No you're not going to die, no you probably won't even get sick. You'll feel like ass, I'm sure, but all that aside does that make it a better idea? No, not really.
The beef might be additive free, which I doubt, but having a few more slices of tomato on there aren't going to make a shit ton of difference. A lot of vegetables sent to fast food chains are picked and shipped well before they're ripened in order to keep them lasting longer. What that results in is a lower nutritional value than a vegetable should be. This applies to most grocery stores as well, but the assumption with them is that you're eating more than, say, two or three slices max on a burger bun. They also use iceberg lettuce, which is essentially worth -0- anything. Ketchup might add a few nutrients but not really enough to counter the insane amount of sugar in it (Trip 0, from what I understand Europe has a more tomato-ey ketchup style than America, where it's basically tomato candy).
The fact of the matter is that all the "food propaganda" that's being spurned in this thread might be misinformed, but so is the nutritional propaganda put out by fast food companies. A whole wheat bun, for example, can claim it's whole wheat but in reality might contain a negligible amount of actual whole wheat. The language for is not heavily regulated by the FDA.
For example, BK might have a strict cage-free chicken and egg policy or, insanely, a grass fed beef policy. That doesn't mean that either animal is raised in a healthy habitat. All cows are grass fed when they're young but are then switched to corn feed. That's still grass fed beef. Grass finished or 100% grass fed is the language to denote beef that eats grass its entire life span.
Nutritionally-enhanced claims, mostly in bread, are almost laughably stupid. It's great that they add more vitamin-craze-of-the-month into shit, I guess, but that's operating under the assumption that food scientists know more about food than nature does. Our food is subdivided into nutrients and vitamins instead of a tomato just being a goddamn tomato. I would prefer to throw my trust and support on foods that have been consumed for the majority of human existence than on modern fad foods that have only been around for 60 years or so.
So yes, a resilient human body and the small measures of nutrition available in fast food burgers will probably help you survive a month. Hell, who knows, you might even be able to go for a few years on it. That doesn't make it a good idea. If you're that curious to know what it's like to be homeless, go be homeless. I could probably save you the time and money by just informing you that it probably sucks.
Missing the point, ITT.
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2009, 06:56:23 PM
Missing the point, ITT.
You just can't win, Nigel. There's 6,750,000,000 monkeys out there just DYING to show how smart they are.
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2009, 08:30:32 AM
well I'm real glad for you that you're enjoying reactions that weren't really there.
I'm not just talking about this board. I'm enjoying all kinds of reactions from my friends, and especially from my sister, who is no longer talking to me. :lulz:
I'm not saying that eating cheeseburgers is GOOD for you, I'm saying that the automatic assumptions that I'm going to have malnutrition or get fat over the course of a month are kneejerk and unfounded, and also kind of amusing.
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on October 06, 2009, 04:46:59 PM
Nigel the blog is entertaining as hell
:lulz:
Getting the point, ITT. :)
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2009, 08:30:32 AM
I was waiting for the "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" line to pop up. That's utter bullshit.
Eating cheeseburgers for a month isn't going to make you stronger.
I didn't say it would. I said that I have always enjoyed food experiments and that I have an exceptional ability to digest questionable food, and yes, 000, odds are good that eating a lot of questionable and/or unsanitary foods over the course of my life has strongly contributed to that ability. My intestinal fauna is a nearly unstoppable army, built over decades of putting potentially gross things into my mouth to absorb their power.
This theory, which you presumptuously call bullshit, is backed up by the magic of SCIENCE.
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2009, 08:30:32 AM
I was waiting for the "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" line to pop up. That's utter bullshit.
Somewhere, the ghost of a German philosopher is crying.
I hope you're happy.
Have you noticed a change in your body odor? I've noticed that whenever I eat a lot of hamburgers, I develop a kind of hamburgery smell that doesn't wash off, and is particularly noticeable immediately after a hot shower.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on October 06, 2009, 07:36:54 PM
Have you noticed a change in your body odor? I've noticed that whenever I eat a lot of hamburgers, I develop a kind of hamburgery smell that doesn't wash off, and is particularly noticeable immediately after a hot shower.
Not yet. However, my usual diet consists of a great deal of beef, cheese, and tomatoes, so my smell might not change much.
My farts smell kind of like cheese now, though.
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2009, 07:44:47 PM
My farts smell kind of like cheese now, though.
important note for the poop log
in the name of science, I demand you photograph your solid waste output and create a graph which tracks them by the following 3 measures:
1. # of poops produced in one sitting (n/a for diarrhea)
2. consistency of poops: 1 = firm, solid bricks. 5 = diarrhea
3. amount of pleasure generated by the act of pooping. 1 = painful gasps and neck-bulging heaves. 5 = slick and smooth, like crapping velvet
IT'S SCIENCE
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(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/discordman/42-17219512.jpg)
Quote from: Cramulus on October 06, 2009, 07:52:01 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2009, 07:44:47 PM
My farts smell kind of like cheese now, though.
important note for the poop log
in the name of science, I demand you photograph your solid waste output and create a graph which tracks them by the following 3 measures:
1. # of poops produced in one sitting (n/a for diarrhea)
2. consistency of poops: 1 = firm, solid bricks. 5 = diarrhea
3. amount of pleasure generated by the act of pooping. 1 = painful gasps and neck-bulging heaves. 5 = slick and smooth, like crapping velvet
IT'S SCIENCE
\
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/discordman/42-17219512.jpg)
:lulz: Poop log is now up
NO PICTURES, SORRY CRAM.
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2009, 06:56:23 PMMissing the point, ITT.
I'd already commented on the point. That post was about the support and detraction from said point.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 06, 2009, 08:40:44 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2009, 06:56:23 PMMissing the point, ITT.
I'd already commented on the point. That post was about the support and detraction from said point.
MUST MAINTAIN SERIOUSNESS AT ALL COSTS
DO NOT CRACK SMILE
NIGEL
STOP THIS MADNESS IMMEDIATELY
EATING CHEESEBURGERS FOR A MONTH WILL TURN YOU INTO A HUMAN WHALE WITH CANCEROUS DIABETES
YOU'LL GROW TO HATE ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND DEVELOP PARANOID BORDERLINE BIPOLAR SCHIZOTYPAL NARCISSISTIC DYSLEXIC ASSBURGER'S SYNDROME ONCE THE CHEESEBURGER TOXINS SEEP INTO YOUR BRAIN
YOUR CHILDREN WILL BECOME ESTRANGED, YOUR SKIN WILL BECOME OLD AND WRINKLY WITHIN WEEKS, YOUR ORGANS WILL FAIL, YOUR BLOOD WILL BECOME A RIVER OF PURE CHOLESTEROL, YOUR HOUSE WILL BURN DOWN, AND THE WEATHER WILL BE JUST AWFUL
ALSO YOU'LL DEVELOP A KANSAS ACCENT AND POOP COWS
Quote from: Cainad on October 06, 2009, 09:13:50 PM
NIGEL
STOP THIS MADNESS IMMEDIATELY
EATING CHEESEBURGERS FOR A MONTH WILL TURN YOU INTO A HUMAN WHALE WITH CANCEROUS DIABETES
YOU'LL GROW TO HATE ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND DEVELOP PARANOID BORDERLINE BIPOLAR SCHIZOTYPAL NARCISSISTIC DYSLEXIC ASSBURGER'S SYNDROME ONCE THE CHEESEBURGER TOXINS SEEP INTO YOUR BRAIN
YOUR CHILDREN WILL BECOME ESTRANGED, YOUR SKIN WILL BECOME OLD AND WRINKLY WITHIN WEEKS, YOUR ORGANS WILL FAIL, YOUR BLOOD WILL BECOME A RIVER OF PURE CHOLESTEROL, YOUR HOUSE WILL BURN DOWN, AND THE WEATHER WILL BE JUST AWFUL
ALSO YOU'LL DEVELOP A KANSAS ACCENT AND POOP COWS
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
HOLY SHIT
Please post this as a comment on my blog... please...
:thanks: Done.
:lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2009, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2009, 08:30:32 AM
I was waiting for the "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" line to pop up. That's utter bullshit.
Somewhere, the ghost of a German philosopher is crying.
I hope you're happy.
A couple of weeks ago I saw someone attribute that quote to Kanye West. It made me want to reach through the screen and slap him in the face.
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2009, 09:13:13 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 06, 2009, 08:40:44 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2009, 06:56:23 PMMissing the point, ITT.
I'd already commented on the point. That post was about the support and detraction from said point.
MUST MAINTAIN SERIOUSNESS AT ALL COSTS
DO NOT CRACK SMILE
Fuck, I can't use :roll: because it's kinda smiling.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 06, 2009, 10:49:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2009, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2009, 08:30:32 AM
I was waiting for the "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" line to pop up. That's utter bullshit.
Somewhere, the ghost of a German philosopher is crying.
I hope you're happy.
A couple of weeks ago I saw someone attribute that quote to Kanye West. It made me want to reach through the screen and slap him in the face.
I don't know many people who don't want to slap Kanye West.....
Quote from: Khara on October 06, 2009, 10:52:49 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 06, 2009, 10:49:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2009, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2009, 08:30:32 AM
I was waiting for the "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" line to pop up. That's utter bullshit.
Somewhere, the ghost of a German philosopher is crying.
I hope you're happy.
A couple of weeks ago I saw someone attribute that quote to Kanye West. It made me want to reach through the screen and slap him in the face.
I don't know many people who don't want to slap Kanye West.....
GREAT POST AND IMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT JOHN WAYNE WAS THE BEST SLAPPER EVER.
I think Kanye West is the voice of a generation. :)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2009, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: Khara on October 06, 2009, 10:52:49 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 06, 2009, 10:49:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2009, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2009, 08:30:32 AM
I was waiting for the "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" line to pop up. That's utter bullshit.
Somewhere, the ghost of a German philosopher is crying.
I hope you're happy.
A couple of weeks ago I saw someone attribute that quote to Kanye West. It made me want to reach through the screen and slap him in the face.
I don't know many people who don't want to slap Kanye West.....
GREAT POST AND IMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT JOHN WAYNE WAS THE BEST SLAPPER EVER.
I think Kanye West is the voice of a generation. :)
Obnoxious, selfish, attention-whoring, thinks he's hot shit, and none of these are done in a funny way?
Yep, that'd be my generation. Sorry you had to see that.
Quote from: Cainad on October 06, 2009, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2009, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: Khara on October 06, 2009, 10:52:49 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 06, 2009, 10:49:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2009, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2009, 08:30:32 AM
I was waiting for the "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" line to pop up. That's utter bullshit.
Somewhere, the ghost of a German philosopher is crying.
I hope you're happy.
A couple of weeks ago I saw someone attribute that quote to Kanye West. It made me want to reach through the screen and slap him in the face.
I don't know many people who don't want to slap Kanye West.....
GREAT POST AND IMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT JOHN WAYNE WAS THE BEST SLAPPER EVER.
I think Kanye West is the voice of a generation. :)
Obnoxious, selfish, attention-whoring, thinks he's hot shit, and none of these are done in a funny way?
Yep, that'd be my generation. Sorry you had to see that.
We probably should have strangled you all at birth. For your own good.
But I disagree about the funny bit. He's funny, all right. Just not intentionally.
I had to make a cheeseburger tonight, because I couldn't take another factory one.
Then I went out and watched a friend eat one at the pub.
Quote from: Nigel on October 07, 2009, 07:58:01 AM
I had to make a cheeseburger tonight, because I couldn't take another factory one.
Then I went out and watched a friend eat one at the pub.
LOL
Oooh. It'd be fun to try and do international flavors. Like pick a country and add those flavors to your burgers.
Quote from: Squid on October 08, 2009, 12:45:41 AM
Quote from: Nigel on October 07, 2009, 07:58:01 AM
I had to make a cheeseburger tonight, because I couldn't take another factory one.
Then I went out and watched a friend eat one at the pub.
LOL
Oooh. It'd be fun to try and do international flavors. Like pick a country and add those flavors to your burgers.
YES YES YES! I've been thinking this! I came up with recipes for Italian and Mexican ones: http://cheeseburgerexperiment.blogspot.com/2009/10/cheeseburger-fantasies.html
Tonight, I can't seem to bring myself to eat. Granted, I had an oversized breakfast and a really late lunch, but I should be hungry and my body is just saying, nuh-uh honey, don't even try.
Much of the time, my posts or portions of posts from here get used as blog updates. Because I am a lazy motherfucker. :lulz:
An amusing coincidence...
http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/10/why-is-a-burger-still-unsafe
QuoteJoining us from New York is Michael Moss, investigative reporter for The New York Times. His article tracking how one woman was paralyzed by E. coli in a hamburger, and the flaws in beef inspection her story reveals, ran on the front page of last Sunday's paper.
ooooooohh, i bet a good mexi-burger would be like
mix a little cumin adobo and sazon in w/ your meat then top it with
tomato, red onion and cilantro, avocado slices and pickle peppers/jalapeno or roasted pablanos
mmmm pepper-jack cheese or queso fresco
I was thinking along the oriental line of ginger, soy sauce, garlic....
Top it with some stir fry veggies.... No bun needed.
Quote from: Squid on October 08, 2009, 05:58:58 PM
ooooooohh, i bet a good mexi-burger would be like
mix a little cumin adobo and sazon in w/ your meat then top it with
tomato, red onion and cilantro, avocado slices and pickle peppers/jalapeno or roasted pablanos
mmmm pepper-jack cheese or queso fresco
if youre gonna eat burgers like that, i shall have to encourage this. damn im hungry now.
NIGEL
I HAVE A SUGGESTION
I think, once you recover from cheeseburger fest, that you should eat McGriddles from Mcdonalds :D
Quote from: Pope Dysnomia on October 09, 2009, 02:31:03 AM
NIGEL
I HAVE A SUGGESTION
I think, once you recover from cheeseburger fest, that you should eat McGriddles from Mcdonalds :D
What the hell is a McGriddle?
(http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.edu/uploads/image/mcgriddles.jpg)
McGriddles are the most disgusting pieces of shit to ever be called food!!
Bowl of unidentifiable inside parts of an animal>McGriddles
No no no! She must do the KFC Famous Bowls instead. Just imagine it, Nigel. Mashed potatoes. Sweet corn. Chicken bites. Gravy. Shredded cheese. ALL IN ONE MOTHER FUCKING BOWL!!!
(http://www.kfc.com/menu/images/bowls_potato.jpg)
You know that you just wanted to make love to that motherfucking bowl!!!
See, the thing is, a "cheeseburger" is a generic, ubiquitous product not tied to any one company. I can get them anywhere, I can even make them at home. Tying myself to a single company's single, trademarked meal sounds horribly limiting, and worse, unfunny. I will never be lacking for a cheeseburger, wherever I go. And the word "cheeseburger" is funny.
I can't really even think of anything else that could even work in this context.
Quote from: Nigel on October 09, 2009, 04:43:47 PM
See, the thing is, a "cheeseburger" is a generic, ubiquitous product not tied to any one company. I can get them anywhere, I can even make them at home. Tying myself to a single company's single, trademarked meal sounds horribly limiting, and worse, unfunny. I will never be lacking for a cheeseburger, wherever I go. And the word "cheeseburger" is funny.
I can't really even think of anything else that could even work in this context.
WIENERS!!!
Quote from: Khara on October 09, 2009, 05:44:30 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 09, 2009, 04:43:47 PM
See, the thing is, a "cheeseburger" is a generic, ubiquitous product not tied to any one company. I can get them anywhere, I can even make them at home. Tying myself to a single company's single, trademarked meal sounds horribly limiting, and worse, unfunny. I will never be lacking for a cheeseburger, wherever I go. And the word "cheeseburger" is funny.
I can't really even think of anything else that could even work in this context.
WIENERS!!!
Hot dogs might be good. But not anytime soon. It has to happen when the Spirit takes me.
Quote from: Nigel on October 09, 2009, 05:47:22 PM
Quote from: Khara on October 09, 2009, 05:44:30 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 09, 2009, 04:43:47 PM
See, the thing is, a "cheeseburger" is a generic, ubiquitous product not tied to any one company. I can get them anywhere, I can even make them at home. Tying myself to a single company's single, trademarked meal sounds horribly limiting, and worse, unfunny. I will never be lacking for a cheeseburger, wherever I go. And the word "cheeseburger" is funny.
I can't really even think of anything else that could even work in this context.
WIENERS!!!
Hot dogs might be good. But not anytime soon. It has to happen when the Spirit takes me.
With hotdogs (Wieners is more fun to say!) you can go with regular, beef, chicken, turkey..... lots of options!!! :lulz:
You can rest assured I will definitely tell you that hot dogs are a stupid idea as well! (for amusement purposes)
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 09, 2009, 09:08:54 PM
You can rest assured I will definitely tell you that hot dogs are a stupid idea as well! (for amusement purposes)
The thing about hot dogs is that they don't even seem like a challenge. You can put anything on a hot dog, to the point where it becomes merely a vehicle for whatever kind of meal I want. Within walking distance to my house I can find hot dog purveyors that will put chili on, wrap it in bacon, smother it in gumbo, or serve it with a healthy serving of sauerkraut and diced tomatoes.
Hot dogs are absurdly popular in this quadrant, for reasons unknown.
Quote from: Nigel on October 02, 2009, 09:37:17 PM
if you keep carbs under 100 grams pr day and total calories appropriate (or under) for your activity level you may be OK and actually drop a few pounds...
Yes, and if you get liposuction you may actually drop a few ponds!
And, uh, how does this diet differ from the average United Statesian's?
low carb diet + not swilling xlarge sodas and fries ... see the Atkins diet thread http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=22017.150
I seem to have lost about 3 lbs so far. Which was not the point, but I'll take it.
I added beer to my diet to try to boost my calorie intake. :wink:
Quote from: Nigel on October 10, 2009, 12:05:06 AM
I seem to have lost about 3 lbs so far. Which was not the point, but I'll take it.
I added beer to my diet to try to boost my calorie intake. :wink:
i dropped aprx 5 lbs on a halfassed weight watchers and then switched to a mostly meat and vegi diet and can eat pretty damn good (much better than weight watchers :argh!:) W/O gaining anything!
still debating if i want to try going on a "caveman diet" for the experiment, i have 10 or 15 lbs i can do with out :wink:
Losing and holding steady are very different diets. The fact that you didn't gain weight back doesn't mean that there's no practical difference; if there had been no practical difference, you would have continued to lose weight.
Quote from: Nigel on October 10, 2009, 12:40:17 AM
Losing and holding steady are very different diets. The fact that you didn't gain weight back doesn't mean that there's no practical difference; if there had been no practical difference, you would have continued to lose weight.
the quality and quantity of the food i can eat is the biggest difference i notice "i am not hungry" the weight difference (from loss to hold steady) is probably the larger number of daily calories, hold steady on the weight watchers left me hungry and dissatisfied, hold steady on the meat and vegi is satisfying, i can basically eat as much of either as i want...
Reading your blog, you seem to actually be pulling this off in a somewhat healthy way. Didn't give up the hamburger buns though if you don't want your brain to starve... True Atkins diet is suicide.
Quote from: Phnepsilon on October 10, 2009, 04:42:43 PM
Reading your blog, you seem to actually be pulling this off in a somewhat healthy way.
Didn't give up the hamburger buns though if you don't want your brain to starve... True Atkins diet is suicide. :cn:
i don't know the details of the Atkins program but brain starvation - suicide (certain death )
not likely!
food fear propaganda strikes again :omg:
(Atkins diet does include small amounts of carbs, and the amount is increased as you go along)
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 02:04:25 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 05, 2009, 01:13:08 AM
Nigel, I'd ask you to please not do this for your health's sake, but I know that won't work so I'll just ask you to please PLEASE visit a doctor once a week while doing this.
Kai, I'm sorry, but that's retarded and a complete overreaction.
I'm terribly amused by the level of overreaction I've gotten from this project. My sister is freaking out.
Think for a moment: If I said "I am going to eat nothing but chicken sandwiches for a month" no one would think it anything but vaguely eccentric. Certainly no one would advise me to go to the doctor once a week. It's a knee-jerk reaction to the word "cheeseburger".
There is absolutely no fathomable reason to go to the doctor once a week. None. The only significant change to my nutritional profile is that I will be getting far less fiber than usual, unless I can find a place that has whole wheat buns.
Okay.
Quote from: Phnepsilon on October 10, 2009, 04:42:43 PM
Reading your blog, you seem to actually be pulling this off in a somewhat healthy way. Didn't give up the hamburger buns though if you don't want your brain to starve... True Atkins diet is suicide.
This doesn't have anything to do with Atkins, or losing weight. If I left off the buns it wouldn't be cheeseburgers anymore, and the whole point would be rendered unfunny.
I am really stuck on these Limburger cheeseburgers. I just ate my 5th one, and I'm still torn between having another one for dinner, or mixing it up and having a mozzerella/parmesan cheeseburger with marinara sauce for dinner.
Ah - Limburger is a cheese! All this time I've been misreading it as "Limbaugh cheeseburger". I couldn't figure out the recipe though I guessed it would be something especially fat and greasy.
Quote from: fictionpuss on October 11, 2009, 03:38:40 AM
Ah - Limburger is a cheese! All this time I've been misreading it as "Limbaugh cheeseburger". I couldn't figure out the recipe though I guessed it would be something especially fat and greasy.
:lulz:
No, it's a delectable, sticky, stinky cheese. Addictive as hell.
it smells like foot-ass-sock-toilet
Quote from: Squid on October 11, 2009, 05:10:06 AM
it smells like foot-ass-sock-toilet
YES AND IT GOES IN MY MOUF.
Also, damn I wish this shirt wasn't sold out:
(http://media.threadless.com/product/783/view1.jpg)
http://www.threadless.com/product/783/Inside_You
WOW!
I would totally rock that shirt.
heh, I've got that one shirt...I was able to wear it for 6 months at work before a manager finally took a look at it.
BTW Nigel, my housemates think this is the stupidest idea ever and thought I should let you know.
... :lulz:
Quote from: Suu on October 13, 2009, 12:12:39 AM
BTW Nigel, my housemates think this is the stupidest idea ever and thought I should let you know.
... :lulz:
:lulz: Since one of your housemates bitched about your cooking, I am going to take this as a compliment. Also I am sending mental death-rays to the jackass for complaining.
Quote from: Nigel on October 13, 2009, 12:18:34 AM
Quote from: Suu on October 13, 2009, 12:12:39 AM
BTW Nigel, my housemates think this is the stupidest idea ever and thought I should let you know.
... :lulz:
:lulz: Since one of your housemates bitched about your cooking, I am going to take this as a compliment. Also I am sending mental death-rays to the jackass for complaining.
I'll let you know when they start working. I smell something burning, but I think he's just caramelizing onions.
Quote from: Suu on October 13, 2009, 12:25:50 AM
Quote from: Nigel on October 13, 2009, 12:18:34 AM
Quote from: Suu on October 13, 2009, 12:12:39 AM
BTW Nigel, my housemates think this is the stupidest idea ever and thought I should let you know.
... :lulz:
:lulz: Since one of your housemates bitched about your cooking, I am going to take this as a compliment. Also I am sending mental death-rays to the jackass for complaining.
I'll let you know when they start working. I smell something burning, but I think he's just caramelizing onions.
...and what is he making?
HAMBURGERS!
I WIN.
I am going to infest his brain with my Mad Cow.
Quote from: Nigel on October 13, 2009, 12:36:06 AM
I am going to infest his brain with my Mad Cow.
Oh I do hope this will be an improvement.
Quote from: Nigel on October 13, 2009, 12:36:06 AM
I am going to infest his brain with my Mad Cow.
:lmnuendo:
So if anyone wants to read about my adventures in self-humiliation last night: http://cheeseburgerexperiment.blogspot.com/
Quote from: ~ on October 13, 2009, 10:43:21 PM
I'm worried for your long term health if you stay the month.
amusing the crap out of me mind you, but worrying.
Are you baiting me? :lulz:
If you look up the nutritional information for your standard cheeseburger, you can quickly pinpoint the nutrients that they don't provide enough of. If I were planning on getting pregnant, now would be a bad time because I'm definitely not getting enough folate. Luckily, that's no big deal otherwise.
It's a quick step from there to research, say, vitamin E deficiency. This particularly amuses me because I have a terrible topical allergy to vitamin E and it makes my skin fall off. However, I need to ingest normal amounts of it just like everyone else.
An important factor is how long it takes for deficiency to set in. In the case of vitamin E, it can take years. Clearly, over the course of 30 days, I do not have to worry about vitamin E deficiency.
The other major nutrient that cheeseburgers don't have enough of is vitamin C. I'd be at about 40% RDA if I was eating fast food burgers with pickle, onion, ketchup and tomato, and my homemade burgers tend to have more because I like to put minced parsley in them. It takes a few weeks for vitamin C deficiency to set in, and at 40-50% (estimating) it's unlikely that I'd actually experience any effects of deficiency... but it's possible.
However, while I am only eating cheeseburgers, I am drinking everything I normally drink, and that includes cranberry juice and beer and lemon in various beverages. I'm getting plenty of vitamin C, B6, and folate. That mostly leaves vitamin E, which, as I mentioned, can take years of deficiency to manifest any symptoms.
Besides, I'm allergic to it.
LIES AND DECEIT
NIGEL IS NOT DOING FINE, SHE IS NOT TOLERATING THIS DRASTIC SHIFT IN DIET WELL, AND THESE CHEESEBURGERS ARE NOT HARMLESS
SHE IS PARTAKING IN SOME VILE WITCHCRAFT VOODOO QIGONG TAROT SHAMANIC MAGICS THAT TRANSFER THE AWFULNESS OF THE CHEESEBURGERS INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S BOWELS, SO THAT SHE MAY FUNCTION NORMALLY AND FOOL US INTO THINKING THAT THIS DIET IS NOT MADE OF USDA GRADE-A SATAN
A FEW DAYS AGO, AT 10:02 AM, THERE WAS A SMALL THERMONUCLEAR EXPLOSION IN THE EARTH AND SPACE SCIENCES BUILDING AT STONY BROOK UNIVERSITY
THERE WERE NO SURVIVORS
Especially not the toilet. :sad:
What about potassium?
Quote from: Cainad on October 14, 2009, 03:22:47 AM
LIES AND DECEIT
NIGEL IS NOT DOING FINE, SHE IS NOT TOLERATING THIS DRASTIC SHIFT IN DIET WELL, AND THESE CHEESEBURGERS ARE NOT HARMLESS
SHE IS PARTAKING IN SOME VILE WITCHCRAFT VOODOO QIGONG TAROT SHAMANIC MAGICS THAT TRANSFER THE AWFULNESS OF THE CHEESEBURGERS INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S BOWELS, SO THAT SHE MAY FUNCTION NORMALLY AND FOOL US INTO THINKING THAT THIS DIET IS NOT MADE OF USDA GRADE-A SATAN
A FEW DAYS AGO, AT 10:02 AM, THERE WAS A SMALL THERMONUCLEAR EXPLOSION IN THE EARTH AND SPACE SCIENCES BUILDING AT STONY BROOK UNIVERSITY
THERE WERE NO SURVIVORS
Especially not the toilet. :sad:
:lulz:
That better be posted as a comment on my blog...
Quote from: Requia ☣ on October 14, 2009, 04:19:31 AM
What about potassium?
Red meat is an excellent source, why? Are you worried about me getting too much?
Er no, not unless you have some weird med in your system that causes potassium buildup, I was just curious for my own purposes.
I know I'm only about halfway through, but I was hoping something mildly interesting would happen. Maybe constipation, or something. But nope.
Why didn't I put this thread in Mechanically Recovered Meat Hole???
Anyway, new updates. Comments encouraged, even disparaging ones.
http://cheeseburgerexperiment.blogspot.com/
"I AM PRETTY SURE THIS IS NOT CHEESEBURGER RELATED, YOU GUYS."
right...
Today I invented "cheeseburger tartare".
http://cheeseburgerexperiment.blogspot.com/
I <3 your blog :)
maybe I just really like the way you write.
It's very colorful and makes me laugh.
Quote from: Squid on October 28, 2009, 04:16:21 AM
I <3 your blog :)
maybe I just really like the way you write.
It's very colorful and makes me laugh.
THIS.
It's really enjoyable to read.
Quote from: Squid on October 28, 2009, 04:16:21 AM
I <3 your blog :)
maybe I just really like the way you write.
It's very colorful and makes me laugh.
Aww SQUEEEE! :D
I'm pretty much reduced to eating raw beef with cheese and onion mixed in. It's the only thing I want.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8I8mqGVmBcI/SukH2lBUKtI/AAAAAAAAABM/7TstJHPzzTs/s320/P1010036.JPG)
EWWWWWWWW :x
i bet lemon would improve it
Lemon might be nice, but it's not bad as it stands. It's seasoned with a bit of salt and pepper, the onion adds a nice kick, and so far my favorite is a bit of goat cheese in it.
Bet it would be tasty on toast points.
Now I'm wondering if I could get used to eating raw beef. My dad LOVES it, but never ate it with regularity because it upset his stomach. IBS is a bitch.
The smell of raw meat turns my stomach, so I'd need something to cover the smell up.
Worcestershire suace.
Quote from: Richter on October 29, 2009, 05:14:06 PM
Worcestershire suace.
Yeah, that has a strong enough smell to cover/overpower just about anything.
But then it would just taste like Worcestershire sauce, which is gross.
I like the stuff.
Then again I also like fish n' chips with malt vinegar, hot dogs with sauerkraut, and dog with kimchii.
I do like WS, but sometimes it is overpowering. Would have to be subtlely used, perhaps with other flavorings.
I love raw beef in the form of a nice carpaccio or ceviche
My stomach likes it as well. Never had a problem
Carpaccio I can take, and the thinly sliced ham, too. My dad just has tummy issues--I do too, but not in that way. I just dislike the smell of raw hamburger, raw chicken, raw lamb...etc.
I've never eaten raw meat, other than sushi, but I do love steak / roasts prepared rare. Fried to a crisp on the outside, yet still pulsating on the inside is fine with me.
Quote from: Richter on October 29, 2009, 05:49:46 PM
Fried to a crisp on the outside, yet still pulsating on the inside is fine with me.
:lmnuendo:
I loathe Worcestershire sauce, and so my friends like to sneak it into my cupboard so I can discover it with horror later.
btw did you know we call steak tartare "Filet Américain" over here? which is French for "American Fillet" ...
dont look at me, i didnt do it.
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 29, 2009, 11:33:29 PM
btw did you know we call steak tartare "Filet Américain" over here? which is French for "American Fillet" ...
dont look at me, i didnt do it.
:lulz:
:lol: Trip! I didn't know that.
I hope you are happy, Nigel! Your little experiment is killing Burger King!!! :argh!:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Food-fight-Burger-King-apf-1338962807.html?x=0&.v=5
QuoteBurger King franchisees sued the hamburger company this week over its $1 double cheeseburger promotion, saying they're losing money on the deal and the company can't set maximum menu prices.
The National Franchise Association, a group that represents more than 80 percent of Burger King's U.S. franchise owners, said the $1 promotion forces restaurant owners to sell the quarter-pound burger with at least a 10-cent loss.
While costs vary by location, the $1 double cheeseburger typically costs franchisees at least $1.10, said Dan Fitzpatrick, a Burger King franchisee from South Bend, Ind. who is a spokesman for the association. That includes about 55 cents for the cost of the meat, bun, cheese and toppings. The remainder typically covers expenses such as rent, royalties and worker wages.
"New math, or old math, the math just doesn't work," Fitzpatrick said.
After testing the $1 deal in markets across the country, the discounted burger went on sale nationwide last month even though franchise owners, who operate 90 percent of the company's 12,000 locations, twice rejected the product because of its expense.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 13, 2009, 07:12:07 AM
I hope you are happy, Nigel! Your little experiment is killing Burger King!!! :argh!:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Food-fight-Burger-King-apf-1338962807.html?x=0&.v=5
QuoteBurger King franchisees sued the hamburger company this week over its $1 double cheeseburger promotion, saying they're losing money on the deal and the company can't set maximum menu prices.
The National Franchise Association, a group that represents more than 80 percent of Burger King's U.S. franchise owners, said the $1 promotion forces restaurant owners to sell the quarter-pound burger with at least a 10-cent loss.
While costs vary by location, the $1 double cheeseburger typically costs franchisees at least $1.10, said Dan Fitzpatrick, a Burger King franchisee from South Bend, Ind. who is a spokesman for the association. That includes about 55 cents for the cost of the meat, bun, cheese and toppings. The remainder typically covers expenses such as rent, royalties and worker wages.
"New math, or old math, the math just doesn't work," Fitzpatrick said.
After testing the $1 deal in markets across the country, the discounted burger went on sale nationwide last month even though franchise owners, who operate 90 percent of the company's 12,000 locations, twice rejected the product because of its expense.
My evil plan! It is working! :lulz:
Nigel,
Here's the burger I ate last night, thought you might be interested.
1 lb. ground turkey
1 orange bell pepper (cut into small 2-3 cm squares)
1/4 onion, minced
3 cloves garlic, smashed
1 egg
Mix well, form into 4 patties, sear on med-high (2 min each side). Bake for 4-6 minutes (melt cheese during the last 2 min).
Serve on pub-style buns with tomato/lettuce/pickles, stone ground mustard, ketchup (mayo if you're into that), etc, etc.
That sounds delicious!
I was thinking about turning the blog into a repository for cheeseburger recipes, mind if I post it, with credit of course?
Totally!
Woohoo, thanks!