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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Donkeyotay on October 19, 2009, 06:26:28 AM

Title: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Donkeyotay on October 19, 2009, 06:26:28 AM
Find three articles that provide useful background or analytical information about the significance of advertising in our culture.  All must be from scholarly journals or national publications

Thats the assignment...I'm goin with the angle of lies and manipulation, mind control, etc...I know there was a certain socio-psychologist who studied the propaganda methods of the nazis and applied them to commercial advertising and media. Does anyone know who that was in particular or could perhaps supply me with some people or events to look for? THanks!
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 19, 2009, 06:31:35 AM
I don't know.

But when I think of advertising I think of branding and what logos, jingles and mottoes or catchphrases do.
Very effective they are.

Everyone knows
(http://www.janaschilder.com/Golden_Arches.jpg)when they see it
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: The Johnny on October 19, 2009, 07:10:38 AM
Wilhelm Reich "The Mass Psychology of Fascism"

Edit: I guess.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Lies on October 19, 2009, 07:18:52 AM
Market research has found that children can recognize a brand logo before they can recognise their own name.

More people now recognise the Golden Arches than they do the Christian Cross. American children are more likely to recognise Ronald McDonald than they are Santa Claus.

In fact, in the USA more people now eat in McDonald's than go to church or synagogue. Surveys have shown that the golden arches are better known than the Christian cross.

Sources:
http://mwr.org.uk/counter.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/specials/1616_fastfood/page6.shtml

Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: The Johnny on October 19, 2009, 07:24:32 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 19, 2009, 07:18:52 AM
In fact, in the USA more people now eat in McDonald's than go to church or synagogue. Surveys have shown that the golden arches are better known than the Christian cross.

The religion of fatness has replaced traditional ones.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Golden Applesauce on October 19, 2009, 07:29:30 AM
Have you tried Google Scholar search?
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 12:59:39 PM
You Are Being Lied To (http://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Being-Lied-Disinformation/dp/0966410076)
Adbusters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adbusters)
Negativland (http://www.negativland.com/)
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Cramulus on October 19, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
Culture Jam by Kalle Lasn
OurSpace by Christine Harold


for more info, search for threads on this board about those books
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
"How to Slowly Kill Your Girlfriend and Not Really Care All That Much About It."
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: AFK on October 19, 2009, 04:21:54 PM
Here's one about advertising and prescription drugs from the New England Journal of Medicine:  http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/7/673?linkType=FULL&journalCode=nejm&resid=357/7/673

Ever since the decision was made about 10 years ago to allow Direct-to-Consumer advertising for Rx drugs, the use of Rx drugs has skyrocketed.  I'm talking prescribed use.  In my professional opinion, the advertising has caused a shift in the docter-patient relationship.  It used to be the patient went in, rattled off symptoms, and THEN the Doctor figured out what the best treatment was.  Now, commercials tell you to "Ask your Doctor about..." the specific drugs.  So the conversations, more and more are starting from, in my opinion, the wrong end of the equation.  A predetermined outcome that you should be taking Drug X, and now we will work it back to fill in the blanks.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on October 19, 2009, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
"How to Slowly Kill Your Girlfriend and Not Really Care All That Much About It."

Snap! I knew something like this was coming.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 04:23:36 PM
I wasn't sure if it was the same person, at first.  I will recant if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on October 19, 2009, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: JohNyx on October 19, 2009, 07:24:32 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 19, 2009, 07:18:52 AM
In fact, in the USA more people now eat in McDonald's than go to church or synagogue. Surveys have shown that the golden arches are better known than the Christian cross.

The religion of fatness has replaced traditional ones.
Just like the Bible predicted!  Praise!

Job 15:25-27 For he stretcheth out his hand against God, and strengtheneth himself against the Almighty. He runneth upon him, even on his neck, upon the thick bosses of his bucklers: Because he covereth his face with his fatness, and maketh collops of fat on his flanks.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on October 19, 2009, 04:24:27 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 04:23:36 PM
I wasn't sure if it was the same person, at first.  I will recant if I am wrong.
Yeah, I kinda figured it was. He listed his e-mail as donkeyotay2003@yahoo.com.

Maybe he thought we would have forgotten by now.

edited to include quote
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Donkeyotay on October 19, 2009, 06:17:49 PM
Quote from: RWH1N1 on October 19, 2009, 04:21:54 PM
Here's one about advertising and prescription drugs from the New England Journal of Medicine:  http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/7/673?linkType=FULL&journalCode=nejm&resid=357/7/673

Ever since the decision was made about 10 years ago to allow Direct-to-Consumer advertising for Rx drugs, the use of Rx drugs has skyrocketed.  I'm talking prescribed use.  In my professional opinion, the advertising has caused a shift in the docter-patient relationship.  It used to be the patient went in, rattled off symptoms, and THEN the Doctor figured out what the best treatment was.  Now, commercials tell you to "Ask your Doctor about..." the specific drugs.  So the conversations, more and more are starting from, in my opinion, the wrong end of the equation.  A predetermined outcome that you should be taking Drug X, and now we will work it back to fill in the blanks.

Cool Thank you, this is defintely an interesting topic to talk about! Since you are offering professional opinions, what is your profession?
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: on October 19, 2009, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 12:59:39 PM
You Are Being Lied To (http://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Being-Lied-Disinformation/dp/0966410076)
Adbusters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adbusters)
Negativland (http://www.negativland.com/)

I was about to point out Negativland, LMNO beat me to it.
I strongly suggest the album Dyspepsi
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: on October 19, 2009, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
"How to Slowly Kill Your Girlfriend and Not Really Care All That Much About It."

I've missed out on a great deal of forum drama, and dont really care, but this sounds especially heinous.
Links?
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 06:27:03 PM
Quote from: Z³ on October 19, 2009, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
"How to Slowly Kill Your Girlfriend and Not Really Care All That Much About It."

I've missed out on a great deal of forum drama, and dont really care, but this sounds especially heinous.
Links?

Meh, too much thread archaelogy.  Short and skinny is, he was dating the niece of one of the old board members (Bella, to be exact).  She became too ill to leave her bed, and he didn't bother feeding her, but instead ate in front of her to taunt her.  Then, when he did finally get around to her, he cooked her some rotten potatoes and laughed about it.

He's scum.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: on October 19, 2009, 06:29:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 06:27:03 PM
Quote from: Z³ on October 19, 2009, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
"How to Slowly Kill Your Girlfriend and Not Really Care All That Much About It."

I've missed out on a great deal of forum drama, and dont really care, but this sounds especially heinous.
Links?

Meh, too much thread archaelogy.  Short and skinny is, he was dating the niece of one of the old board members (Bella, to be exact).  She became too ill to leave her bed, and he didn't bother feeding her, but instead ate in front of her to taunt her.  Then, when he did finally get around to her, he cooked her some rotten potatoes and laughed about it.

He's scum.

Wow.
Thats fucking terrible.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 07:15:14 PM
Quote from: Z³ on October 19, 2009, 06:29:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 06:27:03 PM
Quote from: Z³ on October 19, 2009, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
"How to Slowly Kill Your Girlfriend and Not Really Care All That Much About It."

I've missed out on a great deal of forum drama, and dont really care, but this sounds especially heinous.
Links?

Meh, too much thread archaelogy.  Short and skinny is, he was dating the niece of one of the old board members (Bella, to be exact).  She became too ill to leave her bed, and he didn't bother feeding her, but instead ate in front of her to taunt her.  Then, when he did finally get around to her, he cooked her some rotten potatoes and laughed about it.

He's scum.

Wow.
Thats fucking terrible.

Oh, he showed remorse...once he realized that he was the only one laughing.  Then suddenly, it was all a big "misunderstanding".

But I've met the man, and given the choice between believing Bella and her clan and believing him, I know enough to know that he's vermin.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 07:35:02 PM
Apparently, the two have reconciled and moved on.  

In light of that, I have proposed that if he doens't comment on any of my posts, I will freely ignore him.



We'll see.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 07:44:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 07:35:02 PM
Apparently, the two have reconciled and moved on.  

In light of that, I have proposed that if he doens't comment on any of my posts, I will freely ignore him.



We'll see.

No, he has a new wife (who has apparently not fallen ill yet).  The whole Bella Clan is still pissed off six ways from Sunday.  Me, I just don't like him because of that.  It would be like saying "The Jews have forgiven Martin Bormann, so I'm gonna hire him as a babysitter".

Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 07:53:30 PM
BAI is Mr. Bella, no?

Perhaps we should await his opinion.


LMNO
-Is not forgiving; may be willing to ignore, however.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 07:59:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 07:53:30 PM
BAI is Mr. Bella, no?

Perhaps we should await his opinion.


LMNO
-Is not forgiving; may be willing to ignore, however.

I has a new chewtoy.  :)
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:00:39 PM
I make no effort to influence anyone else's decisions, or actions.  I also may change my mind regarding my own actions, depending on further information.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Jenne on October 19, 2009, 08:08:04 PM
Yeah, he tried to show up to eb&g a while back...he got chased off with a stick.  DS will have severe issues if she sees him on her aunt's site.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:19:22 PM
I may have to trek over to EB&G, for further advisement.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 08:28:00 PM
Even if DS forgave him, I still think he's a prick.

I'm not MAD at him, I just don't like him.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
And a Bears fan, to boot.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 08:33:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
And a Bears fan, to boot.

That pisses me off.  He doesn't rate being a Bears fan.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Donkeyotay on October 20, 2009, 04:31:27 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 08:33:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
And a Bears fan, to boot.

That pisses me off.  He doesn't rate being a Bears fan.

Ditka v. Roger?
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 20, 2009, 04:31:44 AM
Quote from: Donkeyotay on October 20, 2009, 04:31:27 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 08:33:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
And a Bears fan, to boot.

That pisses me off.  He doesn't rate being a Bears fan.

Ditka v. Roger?

Fuck off.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on October 20, 2009, 04:49:04 AM
Yeah, I don't really know any of Bella's kin too well but I liked Bella. Hoshi and D3 (Donk's ex?) were both very nice (and easy on the eyes). This, coupled with the fact that letting your woman almost starve to death is a shitty thing to do, I'm probably going to be an intolerable fucker (and I didn't even believe the story at first).

(edited for grammatical reasons)
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Triple Zero on October 20, 2009, 12:48:42 PM
In addition to that, the "Help me with my homework" question in the OP is not really a sign we should expect shining brilliance from him regardless.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 20, 2009, 08:06:48 PM
Quote from: ~ on October 20, 2009, 07:40:05 PM
fucking hippie little shit.

Your a big man donkey. A biiig man.

Takes balls to pick on a sick woman. Big balls.

Yeah. Personally he can fucking choke on a dogs dick as far as I'm concerned. The potatoes thing is the tip of a fucking stinky iceberg of fail. He's a miserable excuse for a person, and should be euthinased, and his spawn drowned in a bucket.

And no, he is not in contact with anyone, apart from his one sided telephonic harrasment from him to D3, culminating in 20+ calls a day and a blocking of contact a few months back.

Not still a stalker much then no eh what?







Figured as much. 
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 20, 2009, 09:17:39 PM
Quote from: ~ on October 20, 2009, 07:40:05 PM
fucking hippie little shit.

Your a big man donkey. A biiig man.

Takes balls to pick on a sick woman. Big balls.

Yeah. Personally he can fucking choke on a dogs dick as far as I'm concerned. The potatoes thing is the tip of a fucking stinky iceberg of fail. He's a miserable excuse for a person, and should be euthinased, and his spawn drowned in a bucket.

And no, he is not in contact with anyone, apart from his one sided telephonic harrasment from him to D3, culminating in 20+ calls a day and a blocking of contact a few months back.

Not still a stalker much then no eh what?








I'm willing to overlook a lot of personal failing in humans... but if what BA says here is true then fuck this guy.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Jenne on October 20, 2009, 09:31:35 PM
Tigers,

Rarely change their stripes.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Requia ☣ on October 20, 2009, 09:40:19 PM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 21, 2009, 08:23:30 AM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 04:08:21 PM
"How to Slowly Kill Your Girlfriend and Not Really Care All That Much About It."

christ  :aaa:
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: LMNO on October 21, 2009, 12:53:44 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 07:53:30 PM
BAI is Mr. Bella, no?

Perhaps we should await his opinion.


LMNO
-Is not forgiving; may be willing to ignore, however.

Quote from: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:00:39 PM
I make no effort to influence anyone else's decisions, or actions.  I also may change my mind regarding my own actions, depending on further information.

I got further information, from the family in question.  I am changing my mind about my own actions.

Fuck him in the ass with sharpened rebar.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on October 21, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 21, 2009, 12:53:44 PM

I got further information, from the family in question.  I am changing my mind about my own actions.

Fuck him in the ass with sharpened rebar

You know, a good sized stick would be sure to leave splinters.... 
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Richter on October 21, 2009, 03:40:22 PM
Your mercy amazes me.  I'm a fan of a well weathered, splintery fiberglass pipe for cases like this.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on October 21, 2009, 04:14:02 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 21, 2009, 03:40:22 PM
Your mercy amazes me.  I'm a fan of a well weathered, splintery fiberglass pipe for cases like this.

Yes, that thought occured to me but....  I'm going for more eco-friendly torture devices this year.

Just doing my part yanno?

:evil:
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Richter on October 21, 2009, 04:19:02 PM
GREEN Torture? :lulz:

Fine.

Exposure to anthills,  tieing over young bamboo shoots, or coating the feet with salt to be licked off by goats.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Jenne on October 21, 2009, 04:39:33 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 21, 2009, 03:40:22 PM
Your mercy amazes me.  I'm a fan of a well weathered, splintery fiberglass pipe for cases like this.

NO no no...cold steel with a good amount of rust...for the tetanus...
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: The Johnny on October 21, 2009, 07:29:16 PM
Quote from: Jenne on October 21, 2009, 04:39:33 PM


NO no no...cold steel with a good amount of rust...for the tetanus...

:lmnuendo:

or wait, is that a pun?... or... meh..

Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Cramulus on October 21, 2009, 07:49:18 PM
Quote from: JohNyx on October 21, 2009, 07:29:16 PM
Quote from: Jenne on October 21, 2009, 04:39:33 PM


NO no no...cold steel with a good amount of rust...for the tetanus...

:lmnuendo:

or wait, is that a pun?... or... meh..



tet anus??

that's tet offensive!
                    /
(http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/USPics5/71757a.jpg)
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Jenne on October 21, 2009, 07:52:09 PM
:x

Thread-appropo, however.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Dimocritus on October 21, 2009, 07:59:54 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 19, 2009, 07:18:52 AM
Market research has found that children can recognize a brand logo before they can recognise their own name.

I read this and lost the will to live for a moment.

Edit Read the rest of the thread after I posted. This guy's a fuck-up. *Backs away slowly*
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Triple Zero on October 22, 2009, 12:55:49 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 21, 2009, 04:19:02 PMor coating the feet with salt to be licked off by goats.

how's this do much more than sort of tickle?
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on October 22, 2009, 02:02:18 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 22, 2009, 12:55:49 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 21, 2009, 04:19:02 PMor coating the feet with salt to be licked off by goats.

how's this do much more than sort of tickle?
I googled 'goat tongue' and found this (http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Tickling_-_Torture/id/2061332).

QuoteThe first use of torture with an element of tickling was during the Roman Empire when a method known as "Goat's tongue" was employed as criminal punishment. This involved covering a victim's feet with salt or a sweet substance, and having a goat lick the soles raw resulting first in tickling and later in painful blisters. The pain in this form of torture is related to the sandpapering of the feet rather than the tickling as such.
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on October 22, 2009, 03:56:46 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 21, 2009, 04:19:02 PM
GREEN Torture? :lulz:

Fine.

Exposure to anthills,  tieing over young bamboo shoots, or coating the feet with salt to be licked off by goats.

There's the spirit!!! 

I like those!

Just remember we should bury the remains in the local compost.  Gives your victim a chance to "give back"!
Title: Re: Help me with my homework?
Post by: rong on October 23, 2009, 08:08:21 AM
FYI: i'm told a calf will vigorously head-butt a "teat" that gives no milk