Moderate Republican Dede Scozzofava has bowed out of the 23rd Congressional District elections from New York, after facing opposition from the radical right of the GOP. Usual suspects such as the Malkin-thing and Red State in the thick of it, calling Scozzofava a traitor and a scumbag and a communist because she doesn't think fetuses are real people, or something. You can read their excuses here:
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/31/radical-leftist-gop-candidate-dede-scozzafava-quits/
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/31/the-gop-establishment-must-be-purged-as-the-gop-loses-in-ny-23/
Who they are backing is more interesting though. Doug Hoffman is...well, a Glenn Beck supporter, part of his 9 Principles and 12 Values thing. Evidence here http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35051_Doug_Hoffman-_The_Glenn_Beck_Candidate#rss
Hoffman probably wont win, the guy is an unknown ideologue, but I would expect to see much more of this in the near future. The problem, as I see it, will be that the Movement will continue its purges of "left-deviationists" within the GOP (to use the Soviet nomenclature), and that alone wont win them any elections, because ideological purity is stupid and not a vote-winner. However, all it takes is for Obama to do something entirely stupid, and who will voters turn back to, as the only "viable" opposition?
Hurrah for the duopoly.
Quote from: Cain on November 02, 2009, 09:53:17 AM
Moderate Republican Radical leftist GOP Candidate Dede Scozzofava has bowed out of the 23rd Congressional District elections from New York, after facing opposition from the radical right of the GOP [snip]
Fixed that to match the headline you quoted
How The Fuck can you be a Radical leftist Republican ??? We'll ALL end up crying you know . . .
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How The Fuck can you be a Radical leftist Republcan ??? We'll ALL end up crying you know . . .
I don't know but I hear there's a pill for that sort of condition.
Duverger's Law wins again.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 02, 2009, 06:49:56 PM
Duverger's Law wins again.
Sounds more like Bose-Einstein condensates to me. ;)
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=18213.0
:lulz: The Teabaggers fucking lost!
Shocking, that.
They wont win at all until the Dems majorly fuck up and delgitimize themselves. Of course, this is the Dems...
Well, the original candidate before Palin and Beck stepped in threw herself OUT of the race and directly into the Democratic campaign. She obviously was "like a woman scorned" and all that.
And for once that strategy seems to have worked.
First time a Democrat has run this district, isn't it?
Also, Hoffman's party is the "Conservative Party". Check out their site http://www.theamericanconservatives.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=34&Itemid=126
Yes, apparently, Palin et al were going for "the deeper meaning," not a candidate who'd win. :lol: Too bad he was a fucking geekatroid with no experience and very little credibility beyond being publicly backed by a couple of psycho rightwingnutjobs.
Quote from: Cain on November 04, 2009, 02:47:23 PM
First time a Democrat has run this district, isn't it?
Also, Hoffman's party is the "Conservative Party". Check out their site http://www.theamericanconservatives.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=34&Itemid=126
Platform page is rather boring. Typical Rand-bot stuff, but I thought that this was odd:
Quote# Persons who are not citizens or resident aliens of the United States have no right to petition or benefit from any agency of the government except for petition of entry or asylum.
So they think that illegal immigrants shouldn't be allowed to go to the cops or the hospital if someone beats the shit out of them. Compassionate conservatism at its finest.
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
QuoteEach adult citizen is responsible for the health, education and welfare of himself or herself and their family.
Yeah, fuck the poor and crippled! They just get in the way of everyone else.
PS: Forum hxxp://www.theamericanconservatives.org/forums/
Quote from: Iason Ouabache link=topic=22779.msg773751#msg773751
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
Well, helllllloooooooo, Jim Crow! :lulz:
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 04, 2009, 05:40:35 PM
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
I wonder if they've considered what would happen if it was not only repealed, but the repeal was made retroactive...
Quote from: Nigel on November 04, 2009, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 04, 2009, 05:40:35 PM
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
I wonder if they've considered what would happen if it was not only repealed, but the repeal was made retroactive...
WHOOPS I ACCIDENTALLY THE WHOLE COUNTRY!
Quote from: Nigel on November 04, 2009, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 04, 2009, 05:40:35 PM
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
I wonder if they've considered what would happen if it was not only repealed, but the repeal was made retroactive...
Even if it only covers the current generation, I would lose my citizenship, despite a decade of service in the army. :)
TGRR,
Born in Michigan, of two Canuckistanis.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 04, 2009, 08:58:49 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 04, 2009, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 04, 2009, 05:40:35 PM
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
I wonder if they've considered what would happen if it was not only repealed, but the repeal was made retroactive...
Even if it only covers the current generation, I would lose my citizenship, despite a decade of service in the army. :)
TGRR,
Born in Michigan, of two Canuckistanis.
It would be fun to watch them struggle to find a way of saying "Oh but it doesn't apply to white people" without actually saying it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 04, 2009, 06:03:18 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache link=topic=22779.msg773751#msg773751
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
Well, helllllloooooooo, Jim Crow! :lulz:
It must be a law that every single political party has to opposed to at least one Constitutional amendment without actually coming out and saying that we need to amend the Constitution. For instance: Conservative Party - 14th amendment. Constitution Party (lol!) 1st Amendment. Libertarian Party - 16th amendment. Republican party - 4th amendment. Democratic party - 2nd amendment?
The Dems don't seem too keen on the 4th Ammendment either. Drug war, and all that (I know the GOP did it in, but that was with legislation that was drafted during the Clinton years, with his approval).
Also, I shit you not, Erick Erickson of RedState said this once the election was over:
QuoteThe race has now been called for Democrat Bill Owens.
This is a huge win for conservatives.
The problem is, all snark aside, he is kinda right. The Movement showed they were willing to pout and not play along, and as a result, the GOP lost. They may have lost anyway, given the all time low approval ratings of the Republican party, but we wont know that now, since the lunatic fringe decided on an all out assault on the GOP candidate.
The moderates are now put in a very tough position. Be purged, or attempt to purge first. The latter doesn't seem too possible, given their numbers and lack of organization, so chances are it will be the former, and they will defect to the Democrats, dragging its policies (further) to the right.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 05, 2009, 12:37:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 04, 2009, 06:03:18 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache link=topic=22779.msg773751#msg773751
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
Well, helllllloooooooo, Jim Crow! :lulz:
It must be a law that every single political party has to opposed to at least one Constitutional amendment without actually coming out and saying that we need to amend the Constitution. For instance: Conservative Party - 14th amendment. Constitution Party (lol!) 1st Amendment. Libertarian Party - 16th amendment. Republican party - 4th amendment. Democratic party - 2nd amendment?
TGRR Party: Article II.
Quote from: Nigel on November 05, 2009, 12:06:15 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 04, 2009, 08:58:49 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 04, 2009, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 04, 2009, 05:40:35 PM
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
I wonder if they've considered what would happen if it was not only repealed, but the repeal was made retroactive...
Even if it only covers the current generation, I would lose my citizenship, despite a decade of service in the army. :)
TGRR,
Born in Michigan, of two Canuckistanis.
It would be fun to watch them struggle to find a way of saying "Oh but it doesn't apply to white people" without actually saying it.
:lulz:
QUIT READING MY MIND! :crankey:
:lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2009, 02:18:33 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 05, 2009, 12:37:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 04, 2009, 06:03:18 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache link=topic=22779.msg773751#msg773751
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
Well, helllllloooooooo, Jim Crow! :lulz:
It must be a law that every single political party has to opposed to at least one Constitutional amendment without actually coming out and saying that we need to amend the Constitution. For instance: Conservative Party - 14th amendment. Constitution Party (lol!) 1st Amendment. Libertarian Party - 16th amendment. Republican party - 4th amendment. Democratic party - 2nd amendment?
TGRR Party: Article II.
I'd vote for you.
Quote from: LMNO on November 05, 2009, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2009, 02:18:33 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 05, 2009, 12:37:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 04, 2009, 06:03:18 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache link=topic=22779.msg773751#msg773751
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
Well, helllllloooooooo, Jim Crow! :lulz:
It must be a law that every single political party has to opposed to at least one Constitutional amendment without actually coming out and saying that we need to amend the Constitution. For instance: Conservative Party - 14th amendment. Constitution Party (lol!) 1st Amendment. Libertarian Party - 16th amendment. Republican party - 4th amendment. Democratic party - 2nd amendment?
TGRR Party: Article II.
I'd vote for you.
Inauguration speech: "I just abolished myself via executive order. Now all you fucking yahoos go get a goddamn job".
:lulz:
:mittens:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2009, 02:21:27 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 05, 2009, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2009, 02:18:33 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 05, 2009, 12:37:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 04, 2009, 06:03:18 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache link=topic=22779.msg773751#msg773751
Quote# A child born in the United States to non-citizens is not a citizen.
I'd love to see them change the Constitution for that one. I don't think they'd get much traction for a Repeal the 14th Amendment movement.
Well, helllllloooooooo, Jim Crow! :lulz:
It must be a law that every single political party has to opposed to at least one Constitutional amendment without actually coming out and saying that we need to amend the Constitution. For instance: Conservative Party - 14th amendment. Constitution Party (lol!) 1st Amendment. Libertarian Party - 16th amendment. Republican party - 4th amendment. Democratic party - 2nd amendment?
TGRR Party: Article II.
I'd vote for you.
Inauguration speech: "I just abolished myself via executive order. Now all you fucking yahoos go get a goddamn job".
:lulz: :lulz:
:mittens: