http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes
This world has been a pedophile's dream ever since the Spice Girls debuted.
Thank christ I have two boys.
you remember how the Ancient Greeks thought that love between an adult man and a young boy was heavenly, proper, and awesome?
yeah nobody else in history thought that was cool
Oscar Wilde?
Apocalypse. :horrormirth:
It's not the children it's the parents. Y'all have seen my daughter. She is 10 and looks a lot older. It's MY job to make sure she dresses like a 10 year old.
That whole article is "HAHAABJECTION!"
Quote from: Khara on February 03, 2010, 11:38:45 PM
It's not the children it's the parents. Y'all have seen my daughter. She is 10 and looks a lot older. It's MY job to make sure she dresses like a 10 year old.
This.
Also,
I give up.
wake me when reality stops being like this.
:weary: WTF, man? Just, WTF?
The only thing Warren Ellis got wrong in Transmetropolitan was putting the setting Twenty Minutes Into the Future, instead of right now.
Wow... I'm pretty sure nine-year-old's aren't supposed to have lingerie lines, and they aren't supposed to dress like celebrities in their 40's either. Reality creeps me out. :x
Goddammit. Pedophilia is the new fucking black. Godammit. :vom:
Quotewake me when reality stops being like this.
Agreed.
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on February 03, 2010, 09:14:20 PM
http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes
Oh, for fuck's sake.
:horrormirth:
Har. That's as great as baby high heels (http://www.heelarious.com/ava.php)...
(http://www.heelarious.com/images/avanew.jpg)
WHAT.
:x
You know, baby high heels, for infants, 0-6 mos.
ETA: You guys never seen these before? :lol: They're like the bane of the stay-at-home-mom-forum existence. Mention them online, it's like talking about politics and religion, at the same time, during Xmas dinner with the famdamily.
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:18:57 AM
You know, baby high heels, for infants, 0-6 mos.
I'm gonna be sick. :sad:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:19:26 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:18:57 AM
You know, baby high heels, for infants, 0-6 mos.
I'm gonna be sick. :sad:
I thought this was horrormirth, really. It's supposed to make you sick. :D
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
:thanks:
My work, ITT, is done.
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:20:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:19:26 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:18:57 AM
You know, baby high heels, for infants, 0-6 mos.
I'm gonna be sick. :sad:
I thought this was horrormirth, really. It's supposed to make you sick. :D
Yes, but there needs to be some mirth with the horror. This just makes my blood run cold.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:23:20 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:20:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:19:26 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:18:57 AM
You know, baby high heels, for infants, 0-6 mos.
I'm gonna be sick. :sad:
I thought this was horrormirth, really. It's supposed to make you sick. :D
Yes, but there needs to be some mirth with the horror. This just makes my blood run cold.
Aw, that's probably b/c you stopped at the frontpage of the website. Go further. There's a few gut-bleeding chuckles to be found.
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:24:33 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:23:20 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:20:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:19:26 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:18:57 AM
You know, baby high heels, for infants, 0-6 mos.
I'm gonna be sick. :sad:
I thought this was horrormirth, really. It's supposed to make you sick. :D
Yes, but there needs to be some mirth with the horror. This just makes my blood run cold.
Aw, that's probably b/c you stopped at the frontpage of the website. Go further. There's a few gut-bleeding chuckles to be found.
Maybe some other time.
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on February 03, 2010, 09:14:20 PM
http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes
Please...oh please...tell me this is one of those fake articles that I've seen doctored by...well...at least one person here.
For the love of the gods! My daughter's 9.
:horrormirth:
Reminds me of the pageant in little miss sunshine and the discomfort I felt.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:26:34 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:24:33 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:23:20 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:20:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:19:26 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:18:57 AM
You know, baby high heels, for infants, 0-6 mos.
I'm gonna be sick. :sad:
I thought this was horrormirth, really. It's supposed to make you sick. :D
Yes, but there needs to be some mirth with the horror. This just makes my blood run cold.
Aw, that's probably b/c you stopped at the frontpage of the website. Go further. There's a few gut-bleeding chuckles to be found.
Maybe some other time.
I understand.
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 03:31:03 AM
Reminds me of the pageant in little miss sunshine and the discomfort I felt.
Watch some Jon Benet Ramsey documentaries someday. That shit will blow your hair.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:29:50 AM
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on February 03, 2010, 09:14:20 PM
http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes
Please...oh please...tell me this is one of those fake articles that I've seen doctored by...well...at least one person here.
For the love of the gods! My daughter's 9. :horrormirth:
No, sir, there are limits even to our degeneracy. This sort of depravity is not funny (midgets don't count), it's just sick.
But not to Billy Ray Cyrus and his agents, apparently.
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:31:59 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 03:31:03 AM
Reminds me of the pageant in little miss sunshine and the discomfort I felt.
Watch some Jon Benet Ramsey documentaries someday. That shit will blow your hair.
Ick.
How can a parent DO that?
It's the same sort of mindset as the pageant babes. They think it's FUN to dress their kids SEXY.
Takes a certain kind of nutball sicko to swallow this and make it their life's ambition.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:32:38 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:31:59 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 03:31:03 AM
Reminds me of the pageant in little miss sunshine and the discomfort I felt.
Watch some Jon Benet Ramsey documentaries someday. That shit will blow your hair.
Ick.
How can a parent DO that?
See above. They're certifiable.
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
Erotic Play begins at 8 years old in Brave New World....
We're gettin' there...
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
You can fuck off now. :evilmad:
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:39:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
You can fuck off now. :evilmad:
Oh...really?
No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
Sure. Because all the unemployed people - especially nowdays - are lazy breeders. Right?
Come to Tucson, sometime. I think maybe 7 of us have jobs.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
Yeah nice try. If you are going to try troll the forum do it with material that didn't go stale in the seventies.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:40:00 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:39:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
You can fuck off now. :evilmad:
Oh...really?
Dude, check the stereotypes at the door, kthxbye.
And the certification, sorry, Felix, is a not so very good idea, because the wielders of the power over the certification would have FW's attitude about who is/isn't a so-called "failure."
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 03:44:06 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
Yeah nice try. If you are going to try troll the forum do it with material that didn't go stale in the seventies.
Does that mean no more Russian Reversals?
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.
I see. Might I ask who we are blaming for the lack of skills/work experience?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:42:29 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
Sure. Because all the unemployed people - especially nowdays - are lazy breeders. Right?
Come to Tucson, sometime. I think maybe 7 of us have jobs.
I almost had a job today, Roger. I swear to god, I did. It was to be a cook at a retirement community. The lady gave me an interview and everythinig! She even mentioned that they had before hired people to that position with them having no experience.
But she had to turn me down, because they can't afford to teach me right now. They apperntly do not even have enough time to teach me to be a server, cuz she asked if I had experience in that, too.
Please to be blowing a hole where Tucson should be. Thanks in advance.
Agh. Don't feed it, Miss Freeky...maybe it'll go away and a really REAL poster with actual points will come back.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:42:29 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
Sure. Because all the unemployed people - especially nowdays - are lazy breeders. Right?
For the answer to that question...visit the Youngstown/Warren area in Ohio.
Yeah, there I go being idealistic and utopian again. I should really get that fixed.
I was thinking there would be a DNA scan, a 5-axis psych diagnostic, drug testing, and personality index.
If they showed as 100% normal on all of them, they'd be gassed immediately. :lulz:
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:47:17 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:42:29 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
Sure. Because all the unemployed people - especially nowdays - are lazy breeders. Right?
Come to Tucson, sometime. I think maybe 7 of us have jobs.
I almost had a job today, Roger. I swear to god, I did. It was to be a cook at a retirement community. The lady gave me an interview and everythinig! She even mentioned that they had before hired people to that position with them having no experience.
But she had to turn me down, because they can't afford to teach me right now. They apperntly do not even have enough time to teach me to be a server, cuz she asked if I had experience in that, too.
Please to be blowing a hole where Tucson should be. Thanks in advance.
What happened to the idea of you going back to school? :( I think that's really a good option, Miss Freeky.
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:44:32 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:40:00 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:39:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
You can fuck off now. :evilmad:
Oh...really?
Dude, check the stereotypes at the door, kthxbye.
And the certification, sorry, Felix, is a not so very good idea, because the wielders of the power over the certification would have FW's attitude about who is/isn't a so-called "failure."
This. Pat Robertson would get to decide who is allowed to have kids, basically.
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:47:59 AM
Yeah, there I go being idealistic and utopian again. I should really get that fixed.
I was thinking there would be a DNA scan, a 5-axis psych diagnostic, drug testing, and personality index.
If they showed as 100% normal on all of them, they'd be gassed immediately. :lulz:
:lulz: A very small, evil part of me thinks this is the ticket.
lol, education and skills.
Yeah, that'll help. No, really. :lol:
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:47:17 AM
I almost had a job today, Roger. I swear to god, I did. It was to be a cook at a retirement community. The lady gave me an interview and everythinig! She even mentioned that they had before hired people to that position with them having no experience.
But she had to turn me down, because they can't afford to teach me right now. They apperntly do not even have enough time to teach me to be a server, cuz she asked if I had experience in that, too.
Please to be blowing a hole where Tucson should be. Thanks in advance.
Keep on plugging, Freeky. This is a rough town, but never give up.
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:16:38 AM
Har. That's as great as baby high heels (http://www.heelarious.com/ava.php)...
(http://www.heelarious.com/images/avanew.jpg)
On the other foot, if you had to wear high heels at some point in your life, wouldn't the best time be when you couldn't walk
anyway?
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:44:32 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:40:00 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:39:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
You can fuck off now. :evilmad:
Oh...really?
Dude, check the stereotypes at the door, kthxbye.
No. It was a tongue in cheek remark.
If she cited the economy, I would have bowed out and stood corrected. But she cited lack of skills/experience. I wish to know more.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:46:13 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.
I see. Might I ask who we are blaming for the lack of skills/work experience?
A career doesn't define a person.
There is no blame for being unemployed, nor should there be guilt for being unemployed.
I come from a long line of happy people who have changed careers more then a dozen times and have been on welfare to see themselves through the quiet patches.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:50:57 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:44:32 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:40:00 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:39:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
You can fuck off now. :evilmad:
Oh...really?
Dude, check the stereotypes at the door, kthxbye.
No. It was a tongue in cheek remark.
If she cited the economy, I would have bowed out and stood corrected. But she cited lack of skills/experience. I wish to know more.
Oh, look--he's back!
If you did that thing called "LURK MOAR" you'd know MF's situation. Which she's been working HARD to get through and done with so she could give her and her kid a better life.
Miss Freeky tries, and applies, and fills out forms...she's the collateral damage that is this economy.
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 03:52:36 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:46:13 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.
I see. Might I ask who we are blaming for the lack of skills/work experience?
A career doesn't define a person.
There is no blame for being unemployed, nor should there be guilt for being unemployed.
I come from a long line of happy people who have changed careers more then a dozen times and have been on welfare to see themselves through the quiet patches.
Me too.
Quote from: GA on February 04, 2010, 03:50:38 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:16:38 AM
Har. That's as great as baby high heels (http://www.heelarious.com/ava.php)...
(http://www.heelarious.com/images/avanew.jpg)
On the other foot, if you had to wear high heels at some point in your life, wouldn't the best time be when you couldn't walk anyway?
...point...guess it's the whole "sexualizing your daughter" thing that the celebs do so well that freaks people out so.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:46:13 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.
I see. Might I ask who we are blaming for the lack of skills/work experience?
Well, let's see:
Huge fucking classrooms in a shithole school system, because our state spent all the money on armored police vehicles to give Sheriff Joe a big fucking boner.
Kids marrying young, have a kid, husband runs the fuck off and leaves young mother on her own. This is a staple in poor towns all over the country.
I can think of a few other scenarios, but why bother? You've already decided that 3rd generation working class families (for whom there are no working class jobs, because we have all that done in China) are useless mouths.
Quote from: Cain on February 04, 2010, 03:50:10 AM
lol, education and skills.
Yeah, that'll help. No, really. :lol:
Hows it going overqualified, underpaid buddy? I'm fairly certain half the forum holds a degree/masters at this stage.
If the economy wasn't shitty you could get a job with no experience where they trian you to have the skills. It's how my father, my aunts and uncles, all those fuckers, got their careers started.
Now on the off chance you can get somebody to train you they lay you off a year later, and modern business theory is that you don't count as having experience unless you have *exactly* the skillset they need, even though those skills didn't exist three years ago.
Quote from: Cain on February 04, 2010, 03:50:10 AM
lol, education and skills.
Yeah, that'll help. No, really. :lol:
Yeah, point.
How much schooling do you have, again? And it took you how long to find ANY job?
Yeah, but why blame 30 years of short-sighted economic policy when you can blame smudgy people, right?
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:52:52 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:50:57 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:44:32 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:40:00 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:39:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
You can fuck off now. :evilmad:
Oh...really?
Dude, check the stereotypes at the door, kthxbye.
No. It was a tongue in cheek remark.
If she cited the economy, I would have bowed out and stood corrected. But she cited lack of skills/experience. I wish to know more.
Oh, look--he's back!
If you did that thing called "LURK MOAR" you'd know MF's situation. Which she's been working HARD to get through and done with so she could give her and her kid a better life.
Miss Freeky tries, and applies, and fills out forms...she's the collateral damage that is this economy.
I made a tongue in cheek remark about those that squeeze out kids to inflate a welfare check.
MF attacked me. I don't know her from Adam. If she wished me to know her situation, she would have disclosed it.
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:52:52 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:50:57 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:44:32 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:40:00 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:39:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
You can fuck off now. :evilmad:
Oh...really?
Dude, check the stereotypes at the door, kthxbye.
No. It was a tongue in cheek remark.
If she cited the economy, I would have bowed out and stood corrected. But she cited lack of skills/experience. I wish to know more.
Oh, look--he's back!
If you did that thing called "LURK MOAR" you'd know MF's situation. Which she's been working HARD to get through and done with so she could give her and her kid a better life.
Miss Freeky tries, and applies, and fills out forms...she's the collateral damage that is this economy.
I made a tongue in cheek remark about those that squeeze out kids to inflate a welfare check.
MF attacked me. I don't know her from Adam. If she wished me to know her situation, she would have disclosed it.
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
Why do you THINK she attacked you...? 2 + 2 =
you fill in here(and I wouldnt' call that an ATTACK for chrissakes, she was defending herself...damn, I gave it away...)
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:52:52 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:50:57 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:44:32 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:40:00 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:39:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
You can fuck off now. :evilmad:
Oh...really?
Dude, check the stereotypes at the door, kthxbye.
No. It was a tongue in cheek remark.
If she cited the economy, I would have bowed out and stood corrected. But she cited lack of skills/experience. I wish to know more.
Oh, look--he's back!
If you did that thing called "LURK MOAR" you'd know MF's situation. Which she's been working HARD to get through and done with so she could give her and her kid a better life.
Miss Freeky tries, and applies, and fills out forms...she's the collateral damage that is this economy.
Most skilled 30-50 year olds I know would fold in 10 minutes, in Freeky's situation.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:57:37 AM
Most skilled 30-50 year olds I know would fold in 10 minutes, in Freeky's situation.
Esp when she's got like ZERO support apart from you, your crew and this board.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:54:05 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:46:13 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.
I see. Might I ask who we are blaming for the lack of skills/work experience?
Well, let's see:
Huge fucking classrooms in a shithole school system, because our state spent all the money on armored police vehicles to give Sheriff Joe a big fucking boner.
Kids marrying young, have a kid, husband runs the fuck off and leaves young mother on her own. This is a staple in poor towns all over the country.
I can think of a few other scenarios, but why bother? You've already decided that 3rd generation working class families (for whom there are no working class jobs, because we have all that done in China) are useless mouths.
Yeah...just because I have a job, I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
I come from that same class. I know times are tough, but there are jobs out there. I'm hiring everyone from sandwich maker to assistant manager.
The problem is the lack of work ethic, not the lack of jobs...at least in
my area.
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:58:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:57:37 AM
Most skilled 30-50 year olds I know would fold in 10 minutes, in Freeky's situation.
Esp when she's got like ZERO support apart from you, your crew and this board.
All my crew does is get her out once or twice a week. Like I said, she's held up under a strain that would make loads of big tough libertarians blow their brains out.
Obviously where you live is indicative of a national trend. Just like how since I live in Spokane, Ron Paul won the 2008 Republican nomination for president.
Jenne: :sad: I don't know about school, except maybe if I can get a loan. All previous options of getting there are gone now.
Roger: I just got reminded of something I wanted to write earlier while on the way home from the interview....
FW: It hit a nerve with me, cuz I'm not proud of needing it. I have a thread dedicated to the shit that goes on in my life, and if you haven't bothered reading, you don't really care.
Also, Jeebus you guys. :lulz:
Also again FW, Fuck off. This time, die.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:01:16 AM
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Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.
I see. Might I ask who we are blaming for the lack of skills/work experience?
Well, let's see:
Huge fucking classrooms in a shithole school system, because our state spent all the money on armored police vehicles to give Sheriff Joe a big fucking boner.
Kids marrying young, have a kid, husband runs the fuck off and leaves young mother on her own. This is a staple in poor towns all over the country.
I can think of a few other scenarios, but why bother? You've already decided that 3rd generation working class families (for whom there are no working class jobs, because we have all that done in China) are useless mouths.
Yeah...just because I have a job, I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
I come from that same class. I know times are tough, but there are jobs out there. I'm hiring everyone from sandwich maker to assistant manager.
The problem is the lack of work ethic, not the lack of jobs...at least in my area.
Yeah...no...underpaid workers make up most of our workforce these days. There are more underpaid than overpaid workers, and people are continuously laid off/given part-time over full-time and not given raises.
Hard to squeeze into getting a job in this current climate. In A LOT OF AREAS.
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:57:30 AM
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Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
You can fuck off now. :evilmad:
Oh...really?
Dude, check the stereotypes at the door, kthxbye.
No. It was a tongue in cheek remark.
If she cited the economy, I would have bowed out and stood corrected. But she cited lack of skills/experience. I wish to know more.
Oh, look--he's back!
If you did that thing called "LURK MOAR" you'd know MF's situation. Which she's been working HARD to get through and done with so she could give her and her kid a better life.
Miss Freeky tries, and applies, and fills out forms...she's the collateral damage that is this economy.
I made a tongue in cheek remark about those that squeeze out kids to inflate a welfare check.
MF attacked me. I don't know her from Adam. If she wished me to know her situation, she would have disclosed it.
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
Why do you THINK she attacked you...? 2 + 2 = you fill in here
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:39:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 04, 2010, 03:35:37 AM
You know, this gives me an idea.
Make a parental certification exam. If people pass it, they get better tax cuts on their kids.
We already have that...it's called welfare.
Lowest grade wins.
You can fuck off now. :evilmad:
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:57:30 AM(and I wouldnt' call that an ATTACK for chrissakes, she was defending herself...damn, I gave it away...)
No...unless she's making babies to collect welfare, here defense was not in this context. My reply was in response to parenting.
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Most skilled 30-50 year olds I know would fold in 10 minutes, in Freeky's situation.
Esp when she's got like ZERO support apart from you, your crew and this board.
All my crew does is get her out once or twice a week. Like I said, she's held up under a strain that would make loads of big tough libertarians blow their brains out.
Getting out and about will be the small bit that keeps her sane.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:01:16 AM
Yeah...just because I have a job, I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
I come from that same class. I know times are tough, but there are jobs out there. I'm hiring everyone from sandwich maker to assistant manager.
The problem is the lack of work ethic, not the lack of jobs...at least in my area.
How nice. How many Tucsonans can you take on? We have about 60,000 unemployed people, with a negative job growth rate. Can I put you down for 5000?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Ahh, I see, so if you are poor, you are never entitled to have children.
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 04:05:08 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 04:02:23 AM
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 03:58:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:57:37 AM
Most skilled 30-50 year olds I know would fold in 10 minutes, in Freeky's situation.
Esp when she's got like ZERO support apart from you, your crew and this board.
All my crew does is get her out once or twice a week. Like I said, she's held up under a strain that would make loads of big tough libertarians blow their brains out.
Getting out and about will be the small bit that keeps her sane.
Tell me about it. In our whole crew, only three of us have jobs. I'm at the refinery, Evil Roomie is in retail, and Von Melee is doing the fast food thing...and all 3 of us feel lucky to have what we've got.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:05:04 AM
No...unless she's making babies to collect welfare, here defense was not in this context. My reply was in response to parenting.
Dude...I read the thread, you don't need to quote it. You stated clearly that parents on welfare are shitty.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
So, when a person gets divorced or unemployed, should the state come by and take the kids, or should they just be allowed to starve?
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 04:03:23 AMFW: It hit a nerve with me, cuz I'm not proud of needing it. I have a thread dedicated to the shit that goes on in my life, and if you haven't bothered reading, you don't really care.
It's not that I don't care...I haven't gotten to it.
I apologize for having offended you. I have made it clear that my comment was not directed at you.
Have a problem with me if you will. Your prerogative. *shrugs*
FUCK from phone and alreadt missed 3 posts.
FW just stfu or apologize damn foot in mouth much?
MF - love you too. other thread sorry. keep your head up. I'm gonna email TGRR some ideas.
ftr phone posting fucking sucks ass....
dude, I switched to laptop b/c I had the same issues, Khara, but my cord is broke on the laptop. :( I"m outta here soon.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 04:05:18 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:01:16 AM
Yeah...just because I have a job, I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
I come from that same class. I know times are tough, but there are jobs out there. I'm hiring everyone from sandwich maker to assistant manager.
The problem is the lack of work ethic, not the lack of jobs...at least in my area.
How nice. How many Tucsonans can you take on? We have about 60,000 unemployed people, with a negative job growth rate. Can I put you down for 5000?
You can put me down for 4, but that's only if they have a good work ethic. 5 if you can find one with management experience.
But I don't think I'm the only business in my situation, so I can probably take a few hundred more...
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:07:41 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Ahh, I see, so if you are poor, you are never entitled to have children.
Um...common sense...if you can barely feed yourself, why would you create another mouth?
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 04:08:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:05:04 AM
No...unless she's making babies to collect welfare, here defense was not in this context. My reply was in response to parenting.
Dude...I read the thread, you don't need to quote it. You stated clearly that parents on welfare are shitty.
Yeah...that's what I said. You might wish to re-read the thread. :roll:
Quote from: Khara on February 04, 2010, 04:11:08 AM
FUCK from phone and alreadt missed 3 posts.
FW just stfu or apologize damn foot in mouth much?
Scroll up.
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 04, 2010, 04:13:06 AM
fuck firewillow. Does it have a board I can go and be a snarky cunt, then backpedal like furious magic when confronted?
Jenne: Jon Benet Ramsey poor little thing. I had a read all about that.
:"( aw yeah. I used to hope that those little kiddy pagants were like, some kind of Brass Eye mockumentary, or, y'know, overplayedup, or not happen that all often. . . or well. I'd be happier they were not real.
Watching that whole thing unfold was just, well, eye-opening. There's been many more documentary/news shows done on the whole baby-pageant thing.
Oh yes, they start these kids in these pageants at MONTHS/WEEKS old. :x
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:13:30 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 04:05:18 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:01:16 AM
Yeah...just because I have a job, I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
I come from that same class. I know times are tough, but there are jobs out there. I'm hiring everyone from sandwich maker to assistant manager.
The problem is the lack of work ethic, not the lack of jobs...at least in my area.
How nice. How many Tucsonans can you take on? We have about 60,000 unemployed people, with a negative job growth rate. Can I put you down for 5000?
You can put me down for 4, but that's only if they have a good work ethic. 5 if you can find one with management experience.
But I don't think I'm the only business in my situation, so I can probably take a few hundred more...
Great. Tucson is losing 2000 jobs/month. Just in Tucson. How many can you take next month?
And why, may you ask, are this many people losing their jobs? Oh, yeah, because of the very thing the libertarians think we need more of...unregulated banking.
Yeah, capitalism is the answer. Poor people are the problem. Or words to that effect.
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Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 04:08:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:05:04 AM
No...unless she's making babies to collect welfare, here defense was not in this context. My reply was in response to parenting.
Dude...I read the thread, you don't need to quote it. You stated clearly that parents on welfare are shitty.
Yeah...that's what I said. You might wish to re-read the thread. :roll:
Parents who breed and are on welfare are the "lowered bar" because you see them as having "no work ethic."
i.e. SHITTY
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 04, 2010, 04:13:06 AM
fuck firewillow. Does it have a board I can go and be a snarky cunt, then backpedal like furious magic when confronted?
It didn't backpedal on ANYTHING. Are you reading a different thread?
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:01:16 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:54:05 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:46:13 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.
I see. Might I ask who we are blaming for the lack of skills/work experience?
Well, let's see:
Huge fucking classrooms in a shithole school system, because our state spent all the money on armored police vehicles to give Sheriff Joe a big fucking boner.
Kids marrying young, have a kid, husband runs the fuck off and leaves young mother on her own. This is a staple in poor towns all over the country.
I can think of a few other scenarios, but why bother? You've already decided that 3rd generation working class families (for whom there are no working class jobs, because we have all that done in China) are useless mouths.
Yeah...just because I have a job, I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
I come from that same class. I know times are tough, but there are jobs out there. I'm hiring everyone from sandwich maker to assistant manager.
The problem is the lack of work ethic, not the lack of jobs...at least in my area.
Uh huh, are you hiring dishwashers that don't have experience? I've been trying to get that job, but I've been told no. Even when i have friends in management at the company in question.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:14:33 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:07:41 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Ahh, I see, so if you are poor, you are never entitled to have children.
Um...common sense...if you can barely feed yourself, why would you create another mouth?
1. Since when has reproduction been a matter of common sense, on a societal level?
2. You still haven't answered my question...if events occur that reduce parent(s) to penury, should the kids be taken, or just starved?
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:14:33 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:07:41 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Ahh, I see, so if you are poor, you are never entitled to have children.
Um...common sense...if you can barely feed yourself, why would you create another mouth?
thats a symptom not the cause. The truth is there simply isn't enough wealth or work to go around to all the people. The fact that people have children while on welfare is a fact of your country, not a negative.
FW: Have you somehow forgotten that there are parents/families out there that LOST their jobs once they were WORKING THEM? So need welfare till they find ANOTHER one? Meanwhilel they should invest in rubbers or just "rub one out." AMIRITE?
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 04:17:26 AM
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Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 04:08:09 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:05:04 AM
No...unless she's making babies to collect welfare, here defense was not in this context. My reply was in response to parenting.
Dude...I read the thread, you don't need to quote it. You stated clearly that parents on welfare are shitty.
Yeah...that's what I said. You might wish to re-read the thread. :roll:
Parents who breed and are on welfare are the "lowered bar" because you see them as having "no work ethic."
i.e. SHITTY
No. I made it clear that people that produce kids to inflate their welfare check...
...never mind...
I'm not repeating myself. It's all there in black and white.
...and I have an early morning. So continue to fan the flames. I'll dream fondly of them.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 04, 2010, 04:18:34 AM
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Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.
I see. Might I ask who we are blaming for the lack of skills/work experience?
Well, let's see:
Huge fucking classrooms in a shithole school system, because our state spent all the money on armored police vehicles to give Sheriff Joe a big fucking boner.
Kids marrying young, have a kid, husband runs the fuck off and leaves young mother on her own. This is a staple in poor towns all over the country.
I can think of a few other scenarios, but why bother? You've already decided that 3rd generation working class families (for whom there are no working class jobs, because we have all that done in China) are useless mouths.
Yeah...just because I have a job, I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
I come from that same class. I know times are tough, but there are jobs out there. I'm hiring everyone from sandwich maker to assistant manager.
The problem is the lack of work ethic, not the lack of jobs...at least in my area.
Uh huh, are you hiring dishwashers that don't have experience? I've been trying to get that job, but I've been told no. Even when i have friends in management at the company in question.
I'm hiring sandwich assemblers that don't have experience.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 04:19:08 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:14:33 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:07:41 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Ahh, I see, so if you are poor, you are never entitled to have children.
Um...common sense...if you can barely feed yourself, why would you create another mouth?
1. Since when has reproduction been a matter of common sense, on a societal level?
2. You still haven't answered my question...if events occur that reduce parent(s) to penury, should the kids be taken, or just starved?
1. Since I was born. Contraception? Heard of it?
2. Not even close to the context in which I originally replied ITT, therefore not worthy of a response.
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:20:19 AM
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Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:07:41 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Ahh, I see, so if you are poor, you are never entitled to have children.
Um...common sense...if you can barely feed yourself, why would you create another mouth?
thats a symptom not the cause. The truth is there simply isn't enough wealth or work to go around to all the people. The fact that people have children while on welfare is a fact of your country, not a negative.
And you consider this to be acceptable?!
What city?
*Has had worse bosses.
Quote from: Jenne on February 04, 2010, 04:20:43 AM
FW: Have you somehow forgotten that there are parents/families out there that LOST their jobs once they were WORKING THEM? So need welfare till they find ANOTHER one? Meanwhilel they should invest in rubbers or just "rub one out." AMIRITE?
They certainly shouldn't be doing any "family planning." (meaning having more kids, for those of you in Rio Linda). *wonders who will take exception to that comment*
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 04, 2010, 04:26:59 AM
What city?
*Has had worse bosses.
Warren, OH. PM me if you're serious and I'll hook you up with an online app.
A bit outside my commuting range, and I know better than to try and move to a new city with no savings.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:21:27 AM
No. I made it clear that people that produce kids to inflate their welfare check...
What percentage of welfare parents fall into this catagory?
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:25:06 AM
2. Not even close to the context in which I originally replied ITT, therefore not worthy of a response.
You have presented a problem; I am asking for your proposed solution.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 04:32:00 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:21:27 AM
No. I made it clear that people that produce kids to inflate their welfare check...
What percentage of welfare parents fall into this catagory?
If you're looking for exact numbers, I don't have them. But I have had many that have worked for me.
FW: Having reread (thanks to your quote) my originalfuck you, I realize that I took exception to the bad parenting jibe.
Seriously, I get that shit a LOT, and it doesn't sit well with me. Thanks for the apology, though. I accept it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 04:32:58 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:25:06 AM
2. Not even close to the context in which I originally replied ITT, therefore not worthy of a response.
You have presented a problem; I am asking for your proposed solution.
Revamp NAFTA, for starters.
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 04:35:31 AM
FW: Having reread (thanks to your quote) my originalfuck you, I realize that I took exception to the bad parenting jibe.
Seriously, I get that shit a LOT, and it doesn't sit well with me. Thanks for the apology, though. I accept it.
Thank you.
I'm not saying NO ONE deserves welfare. My daughter was on it until her SSD kicked in. But there are those in the system that are undeserving, and all flaming aside, I think you know who those people are.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:30:13 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 04, 2010, 04:26:59 AM
What city?
*Has had worse bosses.
Warren, OH. PM me if you're serious and I'll hook you up with an online app.
OH GAWD HES INMY STATE. HALLLLP
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:26:37 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:20:19 AM
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Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Ahh, I see, so if you are poor, you are never entitled to have children.
Um...common sense...if you can barely feed yourself, why would you create another mouth?
thats a symptom not the cause. The truth is there simply isn't enough wealth or work to go around to all the people. The fact that people have children while on welfare is a fact of your country, not a negative.
And you consider this to be acceptable?!
As a realist yes, it will always be there, if it is unavoidable then it has to be acceptable. There will always be enough tax from the 1% to allow the economic dregs to just about get by and have their families, its built into the very economic structure of the world.
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 04, 2010, 04:40:13 AM
I still wish to know what thread you are reading firewillow. Are you trying to put words in my mouth?
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 04, 2010, 04:13:06 AM
fuck firewillow. Does it have a board I can go and be a snarky cunt, then backpedal like furious magic when confronted?
FW,
Doesn't
try.
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:40:59 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:26:37 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:20:19 AM
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Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:07:41 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Ahh, I see, so if you are poor, you are never entitled to have children.
Um...common sense...if you can barely feed yourself, why would you create another mouth?
thats a symptom not the cause. The truth is there simply isn't enough wealth or work to go around to all the people. The fact that people have children while on welfare is a fact of your country, not a negative.
And you consider this to be acceptable?!
As a realist yes, it will always be there, if it is unavoidable then it has to be acceptable. There will always be enough tax from the 1% to allow the economic dregs to just about get by and have their families, its built into the very economic structure of the world.
That inconvenient fact gives libertarians hives, just like other economic realities give communists hives.
This is no world for purists.
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 04, 2010, 04:43:19 AM
yes, and where in that did i say YOU backpeddle. Nowhere. thats where.
welfare, job seekers allowance, whatever the hell you care to call it is ~bloody handy~ when you are looking for a job. Kinda beats starving to death, y'know?
The whole libertarian model kind of relies on 5-10% of the population starving to death quietly.
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:40:59 AM
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Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Ahh, I see, so if you are poor, you are never entitled to have children.
Um...common sense...if you can barely feed yourself, why would you create another mouth?
thats a symptom not the cause. The truth is there simply isn't enough wealth or work to go around to all the people. The fact that people have children while on welfare is a fact of your country, not a negative.
And you consider this to be acceptable?!
if it is unavoidable then it has to be acceptable.
Why is it unavoidable?
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:44:32 AM
Why is it unavoidable?
Because the poor will always be with us, Firewillow. Get mad at the sun for rising.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 04:43:27 AM
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Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Ahh, I see, so if you are poor, you are never entitled to have children.
Um...common sense...if you can barely feed yourself, why would you create another mouth?
thats a symptom not the cause. The truth is there simply isn't enough wealth or work to go around to all the people. The fact that people have children while on welfare is a fact of your country, not a negative.
And you consider this to be acceptable?!
As a realist yes, it will always be there, if it is unavoidable then it has to be acceptable. There will always be enough tax from the 1% to allow the economic dregs to just about get by and have their families, its built into the very economic structure of the world.
That inconvenient fact gives libertarians hives, just like other economic realities give communists hives.
This is no world for purists.
It is still effectively slavery. It always has been, and is still a terrible thing, but its not going to change until people do.
(I should have gone to bed two hours ago)
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 04, 2010, 04:43:19 AM
yes, and where in that did i say YOU backpeddle. Nowhere. thats where.
Oh...then pardon my inference.
Please point out the other references to backpedaling ITT which would provoke such a statement. It MUST have been in SOME context.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 04:44:32 AM
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Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:56:12 AM
Unless MF is sitting around making babies, the comment was not directed at her.
How many babies does it take to become a useless breeder, FW?
More than one knowingly can afford to support.
Ahh, I see, so if you are poor, you are never entitled to have children.
Um...common sense...if you can barely feed yourself, why would you create another mouth?
thats a symptom not the cause. The truth is there simply isn't enough wealth or work to go around to all the people. The fact that people have children while on welfare is a fact of your country, not a negative.
And you consider this to be acceptable?!
if it is unavoidable then it has to be acceptable.
Why is it unavoidable?
Because the majority are happy with this set up, the people at the top, the people in the middle, and the ones you described, the
bad welfare people on the bottom.
The difference is the
bad welfare people don't have any choice in the matter.
The truth is, the American Dream, that everyone can rise to the top if they have the skills, simply isn't true, it doesn't happen.
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 04:49:14 AM
Because the majority are happy with this set up, the people at the top, the people in the middle, and the ones you described, the bad welfare people.
The difference is the bad welfare people don't have any choice in the matter.
The truth is, the American Dream, that everyone can rise to the top if they have the skills, simply isn't true, it doesn't happen.
You just made Horatio Alger cry.
Now go to bed, Faust, it's gotta be Friday o'clock in Ireland by now.
What's so bad about backpedaling? It's merely the act of climbing out of the hole you just dug.
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on February 03, 2010, 09:14:20 PM
http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes
No.
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Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.
I see. Might I ask who we are blaming for the lack of skills/work experience?
Die in a fire.
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 04, 2010, 05:50:07 AM
So, me and the wife were jsut postulating, d ya reckon billy ray's a nonce then?
If I knew what a nonce was, I'd give my two cents. :?
A pedo, yes?
That'd be MORE weird, gross, considering it's his daughter.
Alty,
has the heeby-jeebies now.
EW. Very EW.
Ah, fuck it. This is the result of our celebrity-obsessed culture. Monkey see, monkey do. It's easy and a satisfying relief to just blame the parents, but what can any parent do about the tidal-wave of technicolored infectious filth that spews forth from every communication orifice piped into our homes with increasing mind-numbing speed?
Become a born-again bible-sucking fundamentalist? No. But seeing that article made me briefly, however seriously, packing my family up and moving to some backwoods of nowhere without any connection to the outside world. Fuck.
I mean look around. What role models does a young girl have? Who are they going to try to emulate? Seemingly precious few are the women out there who couldn't give a flying shit about Heat Magazine, or the fucking E! network. And guys, you reinforce this too, even if it's just a passive acceptance of what you've been trained to think of as the superfluous fluff most women spend so much time obsessing about. It is a poison, and you don't need to get all gay for jesus to do take a stand against it.
You know, this viewpoint helps explain to me why I've always felt an uncomfortable resonance when I've heard jihadists talk about the decadent, immoral and evil westernised culture. I've always internally countered that with a "Yeah, but what are you gonna do? The price for this outweighs the cost of that, and oh fucking look, I don't need to change a goddamn thing, how ass-puckeringly convenient". You know, changing minds is a lot more difficult, and infinitely less gratifying than just blowing shit up.
Given the content creation/criticism ratio here, I don't think most of us fully believe that minds can be changed. It's easier to file it under the "nice dream", but until the win is virtually guaranteed, it's a pleasant self-reinforcing attitude to sit back and not give a fuck. For all my short-sighted idiocy, I give a fuck. I have a two year old daughter and by my estimation, less than seven years to make any impact at all. If Discordian Evangelism needs causes to rally around, then I nominate this one - we have a voice and we have never been stronger.
Because this time, the spiders have gone too far.
Quote from: Faust on February 04, 2010, 03:54:30 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 04, 2010, 03:50:10 AM
lol, education and skills.
Yeah, that'll help. No, really. :lol:
Hows it going overqualified, underpaid buddy? I'm fairly certain half the forum holds a degree/masters at this stage.
Yeah, its a good ratio certainly. Well, I've finally managed to break back into credit. First time since October 2008. As someone who has never been more than a couple of hundred pounds in debit before the last two years, that was....unpleasant. I also think I have a one-off job coming up, which I might be able to use to wrangle myself a payrise. Well, at the very least, I know I have job security right now, and plenty of spare time to read.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 03:56:01 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 04, 2010, 03:50:10 AM
lol, education and skills.
Yeah, that'll help. No, really. :lol:
Yeah, point.
How much schooling do you have, again? And it took you how long to find ANY job?
Yeah, but why blame 30 years of short-sighted economic policy when you can blame smudgy people, right?
Six years on top of the mandatory. Aside from very temporary jobs and schemes (like the poker business), took me fourteen months to land my current position. Where I'm earning
less than I have at any time in the past six years.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 04, 2010, 04:18:34 AM
Uh huh, are you hiring dishwashers that don't have experience? I've been trying to get that job, but I've been told no. Even when i have friends in management at the company in question.
Yeah, I've tried using my connections to get entry level jobs as well. No dice. That's when you know things are pretty bad.
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 04, 2010, 05:50:07 AM
So, me and the wife were jsut postulating, d ya reckon billy ray's a nonce then?
I've always considered it a possibility, from the moment he allowed his other sprog to do the Vanity Fair shoot.
Quote from: FP on February 04, 2010, 06:25:41 AM
Ah, fuck it. This is the result of our celebrity-obsessed culture. Monkey see, monkey do. It's easy and a satisfying relief to just blame the parents, but what can any parent do about the tidal-wave of technicolored infectious filth that spews forth from every communication orifice piped into our homes with increasing mind-numbing speed?
Become a born-again bible-sucking fundamentalist? No. But seeing that article made me briefly, however seriously, packing my family up and moving to some backwoods of nowhere without any connection to the outside world. Fuck.
I mean look around. What role models does a young girl have? Who are they going to try to emulate? Seemingly precious few are the women out there who couldn't give a flying shit about Heat Magazine, or the fucking E! network. And guys, you reinforce this too, even if it's just a passive acceptance of what you've been trained to think of as the superfluous fluff most women spend so much time obsessing about. It is a poison, and you don't need to get all gay for jesus to do take a stand against it.
You know, this viewpoint helps explain to me why I've always felt an uncomfortable resonance when I've heard jihadists talk about the decadent, immoral and evil westernised culture. I've always internally countered that with a "Yeah, but what are you gonna do? The price for this outweighs the cost of that, and oh fucking look, I don't need to change a goddamn thing, how ass-puckeringly convenient". You know, changing minds is a lot more difficult, and infinitely less gratifying than just blowing shit up.
Given the content creation/criticism ratio here, I don't think most of us fully believe that minds can be changed. It's easier to file it under the "nice dream", but until the win is virtually guaranteed, it's a pleasant self-reinforcing attitude to sit back and not give a fuck. For all my short-sighted idiocy, I give a fuck. I have a two year old daughter and by my estimation, less than seven years to make any impact at all. If Discordian Evangelism needs causes to rally around, then I nominate this one - we have a voice and we have never been stronger.
Because this time, the spiders have gone too far.
Teach your kid to hate society and the monkeys in it. Fuck the rest of them, you should already hate those bastards as it is. Children are not innocent little bastions of the future, they are ignorant little clones of their idiot parents in waiting. Some of them might break the mold and grow up sentient. Most of them won't. Forget about 'em - look after your own.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 04, 2010, 01:19:09 PM
Teach your kid to hate society and the monkeys in it. Fuck the rest of them, you should already hate those bastards as it is. Children are not innocent little bastions of the future, they are ignorant little clones of their idiot parents in waiting. Some of them might break the mold and grow up sentient. Most of them won't. Forget about 'em - look after your own.
Ah, I know it's probably pointless.. but I had to try.
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Quote from: Fuquad on February 04, 2010, 05:47:44 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 03:46:13 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 04, 2010, 03:41:42 AM
No skills + no work experience = no job = need to get on welfare.
I see. Might I ask who we are blaming for the lack of skills/work experience?
Die in a fire.
Reminder...All Libertarians:
1. Started out dirt poor. No, really.
2. Run their own business now, which they built through their amazing work ethic, yet
3. Have time to post on the internet.
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Goddammit.... :lulz:
Quote from: Cramulus on February 04, 2010, 04:35:59 PM
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What? OH GAWD! :x
what
the
fuck
:x :x :x :x :x :x
Btw, Noah Cyrus is fucking ugly. That girl will be a crackwhore in no time.
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 04, 2010, 05:50:07 AM
So, me and the wife were jsut postulating, d ya reckon billy ray's a nonce then?
I'd put money on it.
Quote from: Suu on February 04, 2010, 04:58:51 PM
Btw, Noah Cyrus is fucking ugly. That girl will be a crackwhore in no time.
Was thinking it too but didn't have the guts to say it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 04:15:26 PMReminder...All Libertarians:
1. Started out dirt poor. No, really.
2. Run their own business now, which they built through their amazing work ethic, yet
3. Have time to post on the internet.
Did the whole running my own business thing. It's more fun to run someone else's. That and it gives me more time to
post on the internet grace you with my presence.
Quote from: Hoopla on February 04, 2010, 10:59:43 PM
Quote from: Suu on February 04, 2010, 04:58:51 PM
Btw, Noah Cyrus is fucking ugly. That girl will be a crackwhore in no time.
Was thinking it too but didn't have the guts to say it.
Not to worry. Daddy will get her alllll the plastic surgery his baby needs to make it in DA BIZ.
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 04:15:26 PMReminder...All Libertarians:
1. Started out dirt poor. No, really.
2. Run their own business now, which they built through their amazing work ethic, yet
3. Have time to post on the internet.
Did the whole running my own business thing. It's more fun to run someone else's. That and it gives me more time to post on the internet grace you with my presence.
More time than the guy who you create enough profit for, to pay your wages and run his business for him?!
Quote from: FP on February 04, 2010, 11:31:10 PM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2010, 04:15:26 PMReminder...All Libertarians:
1. Started out dirt poor. No, really.
2. Run their own business now, which they built through their amazing work ethic, yet
3. Have time to post on the internet.
Did the whole running my own business thing. It's more fun to run someone else's. That and it gives me more time to post on the internet grace you with my presence.
More time than the guy who you create enough profit for, to pay your wages and run his business for him?!
I would hope so!
Of course with 60+ stores, his wallets likely a good deal fatter than mine.
FW,
Wonders if his boss posts here
what store do you work for?
I run a Burger King.
ahh so thats what you meant by sandwich making
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 11:50:56 PM
I run a Burger King.
You mentioned firing single parents before. I was wondering why you fired them.
Would you mind sharing?
FW:
My mom ran a Burger King. She ran several, actually. The former owner of all of them in Alaska had her go into trouble stores and sort them out. She was very capable in this regard.
I mention this because I just had a conversation with her about this stuff. She was adamant about never going on welfare. It was a point of pride for her.
She still doesn't have her GED or any kind of proof of education, she attended a Hungarian Catholic Boarding School located in Bravaria when *whoops* I came along.*
She left the school (and her horrible, abusive, alcoholic mother), moved to the US with my dad yadda yadda blah blah--->We ended up in Alaska, he left her with two kids to feed and zero job skills.
Anyhow, just the other day I told her that it would have been nice if she had gotten on welfare and went to fucking school. I'm kind of resentful that she didn't. She never thought she was smart enough, never bothered to look at the options.
After going though years of barely having non-fast food in the house, never having clothes that weren't worn over and over to their bitter end, never having enough school supplies, I was REJECTED for any financial assistance for school because she married some fundie ASSHOLE who made JUST ENOUGH for the government to believe that I could afford it on my own. Then she divorced him.
Moral? I don't think there's one. But shit's fucked up.
*Apparently, my father assured her that "You don't catch pregnant the first time."
Quote from: Fuquad on February 05, 2010, 01:15:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 11:50:56 PM
I run a Burger King.
You mentioned firing single parents before. I was wondering why you fired them.
Would you mind sharing?
I did? Where? Please to be quoting that post.
Quote from: Alty on February 05, 2010, 01:23:45 AM
FW:
My mom ran a Burger King. She ran several, actually. The former owner of all of them in Alaska had her go into trouble stores and sort them out. She was very capable in this regard.
I mention this because I just had a conversation with her about this stuff. She was adamant about never going on welfare. It was a point of pride for her.
She still doesn't have her GED or any kind of proof of education, she attended a Hungarian Catholic Boarding School located in Bravaria when *whoops* I came along.*
She left the school (and her horrible, abusive, alcoholic mother), moved to the US with my dad yadda yadda blah blah--->We ended up in Alaska, he left her with two kids to feed and zero job skills.
Anyhow, just the other day I told her that it would have been nice if she had gotten on welfare and went to fucking school. I'm kind of resentful that she didn't. She never thought she was smart enough, never bothered to look at the options.
After going though years of barely having non-fast food in the house, never having clothes that weren't worn over and over to their bitter end, never having enough school supplies, I was REJECTED for any financial assistance for school because she married some fundie ASSHOLE who made JUST ENOUGH for the government to believe that I could afford it on my own. Then she divorced him.
Moral? I don't think there's one. But shit's fucked up.
*Apparently, my father assured her that "You don't catch pregnant the first time."
I'm a bit confused about the time line here. You were unhappy with her running Burger Kings and preferred she went on welfare and went to school instead?
When exactly was there no non-fast food on the table? While she was running Burger Kings?
I'm not being deliberately obtuse. I honestly don't follow your anecdote.
Yeah, at the time, her best option for school would have been to go on welfare, apply for whatever financial aid she could get. That would have been nice because it would have shown me more possibilities, options for how to live a life. As opposed to being "fine" with the bare minimum, which I not only adapted to but actively sought.
Most of what I ate from age 7 to 16 was fast food. It would also have been nice to eat human food. No offense, but I've gotten pretty fucking sick of burger king.
That sucks. I make it a point not to feed my daughter fast food. In fact, I don't even eat it myself.
It sounds to me like the employer (I'm guessing a franchisee) was a really cheap bastard. I make a pretty good living doing what I do. I have to guess that she wasn't being paid nearly what she should have been paid. That's unfortunate.
As much as I'm an advocate for attending college (it wasn't an option NOT to for my elder daughter, nor will it be an option for my younger) I find that many with an associate's or bachelor's degree have a hard time finding a job that pays as well the positions in my career field. A degree doesn't seem to carry the same clout as it used to. I've had assistants whose educational background put mine to shame.
I wait tables with a college degree. :(
These are good and valid points.
But I think that just getting her GED alone would have opened some doors. Plus, AK is pretty job-rich, especially in the 90's.
And yeah, he boss was a cock.
Quote from: Suu on February 05, 2010, 01:53:07 AM
I wait tables with a college degree. :(
Case in point.
Sorry to hear that Suu.
Sadly, I fear the same fate for my own daughter.
maybe its a good thing im not graduating on time in this crappy economy :lulz: i wouldnt be able to get a job anyway
they economy better be happy by the time i get out :argh!:
Quote from: FireWillow on February 05, 2010, 01:28:36 AM
Quote from: Fuquad on February 05, 2010, 01:15:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 11:50:56 PM
I run a Burger King.
You mentioned firing single parents before. I was wondering why you fired them.
Would you mind sharing?
I did? Where? Please to be quoting that post.
Did you fire single mothers?
Quote from: Annabel the Destroyer on February 03, 2010, 09:14:20 PM
http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes
:x
What the hell. In case there was any doubt before, this proves just how awful Billy Ray Cyrus is at being a father and a human. Okay, well, maybe he's really good at being a human, but he is a suck-ass father. Goddamn.
Quote from: Alty on February 05, 2010, 01:23:45 AM
Moral? I don't think there's one. But shit's fucked up.
QFT!
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Quote from: FireWillow on February 05, 2010, 01:28:36 AM
Quote from: Fuquad on February 05, 2010, 01:15:23 AM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 11:50:56 PM
I run a Burger King.
You mentioned firing single parents before. I was wondering why you fired them.
Would you mind sharing?
I did? Where? Please to be quoting that post.
Did you fire single mothers?
Have I in the past? No.
However, if one were to steal from me or not do her job, I would do so in a heartbeat.
Just curious, are you one of those creepy interweb perverts that get their rocks off on firing single mothers? Because that's just freaking sick!!
:horrormirth:
pussy! :argh!:
Quote from: Alty on February 05, 2010, 01:23:45 AM
She was adamant about never going on welfare. It was a point of pride for her.
if there's one thing I've learned, it is that not accepting help because of pride is a fast lane to unhappiness.
that goes in so many ways and on so many levels.
anyone read that article about researching the difference between lucky and unlucky people? I might have posted it in TFYS. people who don't believe help is "supposed to be for them", quickly develop a habit of not even noticing opportunities to get higher up, sometimes even seeing those opportunities as temptations or hurdles. like the people in that research believing that the ad in the newspaper offering $200 reward if they showed it to the researcher was a deliberate distraction for them getting to count the number of dogs that appear in the newspaper.
maybe your mom isnt like that, I don't know her, of course.
It's just that I used to be like that and so many people I know are so self-defeatingly wrapped up in their own cycle of non-success. This is not some "the secret" style of happy-think, just not being oblivious to opportunity when it's staring you in the face, as it is sometimes wont to do.
[and before anyone complains I'm conflating luck with happiness, in Dutch it's the same word, so there]
Quote from: FireWillow on February 05, 2010, 02:06:36 AM
Quote from: Suu on February 05, 2010, 01:53:07 AM
I wait tables with a college degree. :(
Case in point.
Hm, IMO, the case in point is that with a college degree, Suu still has better odds than those without. Even though those odds are very small in the current economic climate, and she has to wait tables. She fights for and might one day land a job that better fits her level of education.
What you seem to be saying is that those without a college degree are "just as well off" as those without? Even given that the economy will never crawl out of this hole again, there may not be many jobs out there, but you only need one and hold on to it.
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 05, 2010, 01:25:13 PM
Quote from: FireWillow on February 05, 2010, 02:06:36 AM
Quote from: Suu on February 05, 2010, 01:53:07 AM
I wait tables with a college degree. :(
Case in point.
Hm, IMO, the case in point is that with a college degree, Suu still has better odds than those without. Even though those odds are very small in the current economic climate, and she has to wait tables. She fights for and might one day land a job that better fits her level of education.
What you seem to be saying is that those without a college degree are "just as well off" as those without? Even given that the economy will never crawl out of this hole again, there may not be many jobs out there, but you only need one and hold on to it.
That's not what I'm saying at all. Of course, someone with a degree has the edge over someone with a HS diploma or GED where neither applicant has OTJ experience. But more times than not, OTJ experience will win out over a degree with no experience.
Other factors include a well authored resume and the ability to sell oneself during the interview process. Experience wins out over a degree in these venues as well.
Also, I gotta throw in something else you made me realize. There is even social benefit in accepting help. Some people really want to help. And if you let them, it's win/win because you get helped and they can help someone!
Seriously if someone helps you out of a bad situation and you let them be successful at it, you might have made a friend for life just because they feel so good about having helped you out of that situation.
Human psychology is weird like that.
:mittens:, 000 and BAI! Excellently put!
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 05, 2010, 05:03:38 AM
QuoteWell, I've finally managed to break back into credit.
YAY! good luck with the upcoming job also. Hopefully you'll get a toe in the door.
ALSO: DAMN YUO CRAMULUS!
I'll be helping an ex-stripper with a heart of gold (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HookerWithAHeartOfGold) (allegedly (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrSoIHeard)) who runs a burger van with a problem, namely bratty kids with too much spare time. Should be fairly easy.
Credit is good tho.
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 05, 2010, 01:25:13 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 05, 2010, 01:23:45 AM
She was adamant about never going on welfare. It was a point of pride for her.
if there's one thing I've learned, it is that not accepting help because of pride is a fast lane to unhappiness.
that goes in so many ways and on so many levels.
anyone read that article about researching the difference between lucky and unlucky people? I might have posted it in TFYS. people who don't believe help is "supposed to be for them", quickly develop a habit of not even noticing opportunities to get higher up, sometimes even seeing those opportunities as temptations or hurdles. like the people in that research believing that the ad in the newspaper offering $200 reward if they showed it to the researcher was a deliberate distraction for them getting to count the number of dogs that appear in the newspaper.
maybe your mom isnt like that, I don't know her, of course.
It's just that I used to be like that and so many people I know are so self-defeatingly wrapped up in their own cycle of non-success. This is not some "the secret" style of happy-think, just not being oblivious to opportunity when it's staring you in the face, as it is sometimes wont to do.
[and before anyone complains I'm conflating luck with happiness, in Dutch it's the same word, so there]
Ah yes! That's what I was getting at. It's not so much that I resent her for not getting a degree and making good money (and besides, I'm not ungrateful that she worked really hard at a shit job to keep a roof over out heads), it's that self-defeating behavior that she passed down to me because I saw no other model.
I became a master of low-expectations, and it wasn't until I had kids of my own (as well as Mrs. Alty's "WTF?" at some of my decision making processes) that I realized that: You do whatever you damn well have to in order to better yourself. That includes welfare. I suppose I wanted to point out that this stuff is complicated and a solid rule doesn't apply people needing government assistants.
And you laid down that type of behavior perfectly.
IN CASE ANYONE CARES about the original topic
the company says the 2 kids arent designing lingerie with them, they are designing tutu dresses
...tutu dresses that hookers wear, maybe.
lingerie tutu dresses?
i dont think its that hookers would wear tutus but that those two act like hookers while wearing tutus :lol:
Quote from: FireWillow on February 05, 2010, 12:22:34 PM
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Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 11:50:56 PM
I run a Burger King.
You mentioned firing single parents before. I was wondering why you fired them.
Would you mind sharing?
I did? Where? Please to be quoting that post.
Did you fire single mothers?
Have I in the past? No.
However, if one were to steal from me or not do her job, I would do so in a heartbeat.
Just curious, are you one of those creepy interweb perverts that get their rocks off on firing single mothers? Because that's just freaking sick!!
:horrormirth:
So the welfare moms you have fired where all married.
Quote from: Cain on February 05, 2010, 02:55:52 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 05, 2010, 05:03:38 AM
QuoteWell, I've finally managed to break back into credit.
YAY! good luck with the upcoming job also. Hopefully you'll get a toe in the door.
ALSO: DAMN YUO CRAMULUS!
I'll be helping an ex-stripper with a heart of gold (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HookerWithAHeartOfGold) (allegedly (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrSoIHeard)) who runs a burger van with a problem, namely bratty kids with too much spare time. Should be fairly easy.
Credit is good tho.
Hilarity Ensues... (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HilarityEnsues)
Quote from: Fuquad on February 05, 2010, 07:14:19 PM
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Quote from: FireWillow on February 04, 2010, 11:50:56 PM
I run a Burger King.
You mentioned firing single parents before. I was wondering why you fired them.
Would you mind sharing?
I did? Where? Please to be quoting that post.
Did you fire single mothers?
Have I in the past? No.
However, if one were to steal from me or not do her job, I would do so in a heartbeat.
Just curious, are you one of those creepy interweb perverts that get their rocks off on firing single mothers? Because that's just freaking sick!!
:horrormirth:
So the welfare moms you have fired where all married.
Why did your mom marry a hooker with a tutu? :?
Quote from: Suu on February 04, 2010, 04:58:51 PM
Btw, Noah Cyrus is fucking ugly. That girl will be a crackwhore in no time.
Isn't Noah a guy's name? And yeah, that Noah girl will most likely end up a crackslore, and no I did not misspell that, because whore+slut=slore.
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 05, 2010, 03:39:03 PM
oh god i'm so sorry for this but is it ... (feel free to hit me later)
a camel toe in the door? :lol:
coz thats the best kind. :wink:
fnar fnar etc.
fair doos. Little knob heads being the big I am is it :D :lol:I'm sure you'll sort it just by being there. Rats always pick on a lone lady, but kinda shite it when there's a bloke there.
Oh, its nothing like that. No, she has some hulking slab of meat who is supposedly human, who she dates and who can handle that sort of thing. When he's not working (and I dread to even think what he does that is considered "work") he intimidates people into playing nice down there. But whatever he does means he works evenings, so he can't always be there. So I'm working on a more permament solution involving photographic evidence of harassment and threats of involving the scum if it doesn't stop. Or at the very least, getting them blacklisted from every store in town.
More like slut mod whore = slore, amirite?!
Sigma,
I am not right.
more like portmanteau("slut", "whore")
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2010, 10:52:40 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 05, 2010, 03:39:03 PM
oh god i'm so sorry for this but is it ... (feel free to hit me later)
a camel toe in the door? :lol:
coz thats the best kind. :wink:
fnar fnar etc.
fair doos. Little knob heads being the big I am is it :D :lol:I'm sure you'll sort it just by being there. Rats always pick on a lone lady, but kinda shite it when there's a bloke there.
Oh, its nothing like that. No, she has some hulking slab of meat who is supposedly human, who she dates and who can handle that sort of thing. When he's not working (and I dread to even think what he does that is considered "work") he intimidates people into playing nice down there. But whatever he does means he works evenings, so he can't always be there. So I'm working on a more permament solution involving photographic evidence of harassment and threats of involving the scum if it doesn't stop. Or at the very least, getting them blacklisted from every store in town.
Joes the job come with it's own laugh track?
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 06, 2010, 11:59:06 PM
More like slut mod whore = slore, amirite?!
Sigma,
I am not right.
Nah, you're right.
That poor goddamn little kid.