Jesus Christ, seriously?

[Triple Zero]

She was adamant about never going on welfare. It was a point of pride for her.

if there's one thing I've learned, it is that not accepting help because of pride is a fast lane to unhappiness.

that goes in so many ways and on so many levels.

anyone read that article about researching the difference between lucky and unlucky people? I might have posted it in TFYS. people who don't believe help is "supposed to be for them", quickly develop a habit of not even noticing opportunities to get higher up, sometimes even seeing those opportunities as temptations or hurdles. like the people in that research believing that the ad in the newspaper offering $200 reward if they showed it to the researcher was a deliberate distraction for them getting to count the number of dogs that appear in the newspaper.

maybe your mom isnt like that, I don't know her, of course.

It's just that I used to be like that and so many people I know are so self-defeatingly wrapped up in their own cycle of non-success. This is not some "the secret" style of happy-think, just not being oblivious to opportunity when it's staring you in the face, as it is sometimes wont to do.

[and before anyone complains I'm conflating luck with happiness, in Dutch it's the same word, so there]

I wait tables with a college degree.

Case in point.

Hm, IMO, the case in point is that with a college degree, Suu still has better odds than those without. Even though those odds are very small in the current economic climate, and she has to wait tables. She fights for and might one day land a job that better fits her level of education.

What you seem to be saying is that those without a college degree are "just as well off" as those without? Even given that the economy will never crawl out of this hole again, there may not be many jobs out there, but you only need one and hold on to it.

[No u]

I wait tables with a college degree.

Case in point.

Hm, IMO, the case in point is that with a college degree, Suu still has better odds than those without. Even though those odds are very small in the current economic climate, and she has to wait tables. She fights for and might one day land a job that better fits her level of education.

What you seem to be saying is that those without a college degree are "just as well off" as those without? Even given that the economy will never crawl out of this hole again, there may not be many jobs out there, but you only need one and hold on to it.

That's not what I'm saying at all.  Of course, someone with a degree has the edge over someone with a HS diploma or GED where neither applicant has OTJ experience.  But more times than not, OTJ experience will win out over a degree with no experience. 

Other factors include a well authored resume and the ability to sell oneself during the interview process.  Experience wins out over a degree in these venues as well.

[Triple Zero]

Also, I gotta throw in something else you made me realize. There is even social benefit in accepting help. Some people really want to help. And if you let them, it's win/win because you get helped and they can help someone!
Seriously if someone helps you out of a bad situation and you let them be successful at it, you might have made a friend for life just because they feel so good about having helped you out of that situation.
Human psychology is weird like that.

[Jenne]

, 000 and BAI!  Excellently put!

[Cain]

Well, I've finally managed to break back into credit.

YAY! good luck with the upcoming job also. Hopefully you'll get a toe in the door.

ALSO: DAMN YUO CRAMULUS!

I'll be helping an ex-stripper with a heart of gold (allegedly) who runs a burger van with a problem, namely bratty kids with too much spare time.  Should be fairly easy.

Credit is good tho.

[Salty]

She was adamant about never going on welfare. It was a point of pride for her.

if there's one thing I've learned, it is that not accepting help because of pride is a fast lane to unhappiness.

that goes in so many ways and on so many levels.

anyone read that article about researching the difference between lucky and unlucky people? I might have posted it in TFYS. people who don't believe help is "supposed to be for them", quickly develop a habit of not even noticing opportunities to get higher up, sometimes even seeing those opportunities as temptations or hurdles. like the people in that research believing that the ad in the newspaper offering $200 reward if they showed it to the researcher was a deliberate distraction for them getting to count the number of dogs that appear in the newspaper.

maybe your mom isnt like that, I don't know her, of course.

It's just that I used to be like that and so many people I know are so self-defeatingly wrapped up in their own cycle of non-success. This is not some "the secret" style of happy-think, just not being oblivious to opportunity when it's staring you in the face, as it is sometimes wont to do.

[and before anyone complains I'm conflating luck with happiness, in Dutch it's the same word, so there]

Ah yes! That's what I was getting at. It's not so much that I resent her for not getting a degree and making good money (and besides, I'm not ungrateful that she worked really hard at a shit job to keep a roof over out heads), it's that self-defeating behavior that she passed down to me because I saw no other model.

I became a master of low-expectations, and it wasn't until I had kids of my own (as well as Mrs. Alty's "WTF?" at some of my decision making processes) that I realized that: You do whatever you damn well have to in order to better yourself. That includes welfare. I suppose I wanted to point out that this stuff is complicated and a solid rule doesn't apply people needing government assistants.

And you laid down that type of behavior perfectly.

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

IN CASE ANYONE CARES about the original topic
the company says the 2 kids arent designing lingerie with them, they are designing tutu dresses

[Jenne]

...tutu dresses that hookers wear, maybe.

[Cain]

lingerie tutu dresses?

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

i dont think its that hookers would wear tutus but that those two act like hookers while wearing tutus

[Fuquad]

I run a Burger King.

You mentioned firing single parents before. I was wondering why you fired them.

Would you mind sharing?

I did?  Where?  Please to be quoting that post.

Did you fire single mothers?

Have I in the past?  No. 

However, if one were to steal from me or not do her job, I would do so in a heartbeat.

Just curious, are you one of those creepy interweb perverts that get their rocks off on firing single mothers?  Because that's just freaking sick!!

So the welfare moms you have fired where all married.

[Iason Ouabache]

Well, I've finally managed to break back into credit.

YAY! good luck with the upcoming job also. Hopefully you'll get a toe in the door.

ALSO: DAMN YUO CRAMULUS!

I'll be helping an ex-stripper with a heart of gold (allegedly) who runs a burger van with a problem, namely bratty kids with too much spare time.  Should be fairly easy.

Credit is good tho.

Hilarity Ensues...

[No u]

...hookers would wear tutus...

[No u]

I run a Burger King.

You mentioned firing single parents before. I was wondering why you fired them.

Would you mind sharing?

I did?  Where?  Please to be quoting that post.

Did you fire single mothers?

Have I in the past?  No. 

However, if one were to steal from me or not do her job, I would do so in a heartbeat.

Just curious, are you one of those creepy interweb perverts that get their rocks off on firing single mothers?  Because that's just freaking sick!!

So the welfare moms you have fired where all married.

Why did your mom marry a hooker with a tutu? 

[ThatGreenGentleman]

Btw, Noah Cyrus is fucking ugly. That girl will be a crackwhore in no time.

Isn't Noah a guy's name? And yeah, that Noah girl will most likely end up a crackslore, and no I did not misspell that, because whore+slut=slore.