I don't know if you guys heard or wrote about it yet, but there's a giant oil problem in the Gulf right now.
A rig exploded and now there's 1000 barrels a day just pouring out into the Gulf.
Nice.
Don't eat ANYTHING from the Gulf!
Shrimp, tuna, blah blah
that doesn't seem like that much.
there are natural oil spills that seep 5 to 6 times this much every day from what i understand.
:?
You can see it from space. Right off the coast of Louisiana.
It's kind of a big deal considering they might not be able to get it sealed off for 3 months.
They're considering setting it on fire.
oh, i don't deny it. it's all over the news. (although i have neglected to read up on it.)
it's just that the number struck me, since i had read not too long ago about natural oil seeps, and the number that stuck in my head from that was that it seeps 5-6 thousand barrels a day.
and it was from an oceanographic institute or something....
perhaps i'm remembering wrong.
i'll try to find that.
Here
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/04/24/MNCA1D4GO5.DTL
Oh yeah, the whole rig sank and 11 people are missing and presumed dead.
(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2010-04/Oil-Spill-Satellite-View_53490467.jpg)
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-oil-spill-florida-threat-20100427,0,1452152.story
I mean, it's 42,000 gallons.
i think this might have been the article that i read:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/While+oil+gently+seeps+from+the+seafloor:+natural+leaks+into+the...-a0217042193
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I had learned about natural oil seeps in graduate school, and I knew that they account for about 50 percent of oil that ends up in the coastal environment. That's five times as much oil as is delivered by accidental spills.
The Santa Barbara seeps, for example emit 5,280 to 6,600 gallons (nearly 20 to 25 tons) of oil per day, and natural seeps have been active for hundreds to thousands of years. Local Native Americans used the oil to waterproof their boats. But I just didn't appreciate how spectacular they were and what a powerful opportunity they provided to study oil spills.
How much of that oil naturally leaks into the Gulf though.
I mean, it's already kind of a delicate ecosystem as it is, then we have all the crud from the Mississippi river, now this? The Gulf coast of my state smells like rotten eggs already. What about all the fish that may come drifting in now? (potentially)
Also the shrimping industry could suffer. (also potentially)
Quote from: Iptuous on April 28, 2010, 05:46:07 AM
i think this might have been the article that i read:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/While+oil+gently+seeps+from+the+seafloor:+natural+leaks+into+the...-a0217042193
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I had learned about natural oil seeps in graduate school, and I knew that they account for about 50 percent of oil that ends up in the coastal environment. That's five times as much oil as is delivered by accidental spills.
The Santa Barbara seeps, for example emit 5,280 to 6,600 gallons (nearly 20 to 25 tons) of oil per day, and natural seeps have been active for hundreds to thousands of years. Local Native Americans used the oil to waterproof their boats. But I just didn't appreciate how spectacular they were and what a powerful opportunity they provided to study oil spills.
I believe that in our big happy natural oil seep, the majority of the oil eventually gets eaten by microbes or sinks into the sediment. Some however does clump up and wash up onto the beach, and sticks to your feet and is a bugger to get off. (Ah, fond memories)
But maybe like Squid said, our environment is tuned to handle that sort of thing, whilst the Gulf Coast, being as sensitive as it is, is not.
The irony of it is that it sank on Earth Day.
Yeah, the real issue is that shrimping season is about to start.
Quote from: Telarus on April 28, 2010, 07:18:39 AM
Yeah, the real issue is that shrimping season is about to start.
A million creatures that will not know the tender embrace of garlic butter.
:sadbanana:
Sea bugs. Ew.
Damn that sucks.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on April 28, 2010, 07:03:10 AM
The irony of it is that it sank on Earth Day.
Yeah, that's when I heard about it.
:horrormirth:
So, how many people will connect this with the "Drill Baby Drill" rhetoric?
Oh, yeah. :|
Quote from: Iptuous on April 28, 2010, 05:00:42 AM
that doesn't seem like that much.
there are natural oil spills that seep 5 to 6 times this much every day from what i understand.
:?
In one small place?
Quote from: Iptuous on April 28, 2010, 05:00:42 AM
that doesn't seem like that much.
there are natural oil spills that seep 5 to 6 times this much every day from what i understand.
:?
This also sounds like "it's ok to drill a hole in a boat's hull if it's already leaking" logic.
Also, as far as I've read, they still haven't been able to stop the leak. There is natural oil seepage, but their is a reason they are calling this an oil spill, as compared to an oil seepage. It is a more concentrated and acute event. And look at the satellite image. It can't be good for that much oil, so close together, is so close to a wildlife refuge.
don't get me wrong folks!
i wasn't saying that this isn't a concern, or anything.
it's a big mess. i was just saying that i thought it would have had a bigger number than it does, based on the number in the article that i posted (or one similar to it that i read a while ago)
furthermore, the article goes on to explain how the natural environment deals with the natural leaks, too, like Nast says....
ah okay, thanks for clarifying. because I was indeed getting you wrong ...
I think I was getting you wrong too, but I get you now. :)
Also
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on April 28, 2010, 07:03:10 AM
The irony of it is that it sank on Earth Day.
:lulz: :x :lulz: :x
By the way the fuckers lied.
It's spilling about 210,000 gallons of crude into the gulf every day.
Thanks BP.
That whole unregulated "trust us we know what we're doing" approach really worked.
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on April 28, 2010, 04:52:21 AM
I don't know if you guys heard or wrote about it yet, but there's a giant oil problem in the Gulf right now.
A rig exploded and now there's 1000 barrels a day just pouring out into the Gulf.
Nice.
Don't eat ANYTHING from the Gulf!
Shrimp, tuna, blah blah
PUNCHLINE, PLS.
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on April 30, 2010, 03:42:53 AM
By the way the fuckers lied.
It's spilling about 210,000 gallons of crude into the gulf every day.
Thanks BP.
That whole unregulated "trust us we know what we're doing" approach really worked.
Don't worry. The invisible hand of the marketplace will clean it right up. Any time now.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 30, 2010, 03:45:43 AM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on April 30, 2010, 03:42:53 AM
By the way the fuckers lied.
It's spilling about 210,000 gallons of crude into the gulf every day.
Thanks BP.
That whole unregulated "trust us we know what we're doing" approach really worked.
Don't worry. The invisible hand of the marketplace will clean it right up. Any time now.
Or set it on FIRE!
Pretty much everyone is watching it creep up to Louisiana's coast in pure horror. This is a god damn disaster. You know it's bad when the 11 people missing/dead aren't the headline. Ordinarily that would be the topic for weeks, and here it's barely mentioned.
Quote from: EoC on April 30, 2010, 03:46:47 AM
Pretty much everyone is watching it creep up to Louisiana's coast in pure horror. This is a god damn disaster. You know it's bad when the 11 people missing/dead aren't the headline. Ordinarily that would be the topic for weeks, and here it's barely mentioned.
Louisiana can't catch a break.
Edit: I confuzzled gallons and barrels, ignore that :?
Drill, Baby, Drill :lulz:
What's funnier yet is that the location of the spill is just to the north of the gulf of Mexico dead zone caused by fertilizer runoff from the Mississippi valley.
Quote from: Kai on April 30, 2010, 03:58:19 AM
What's funnier yet is that the location of the spill is just to the north of the gulf of Mexico dead zone caused by fertilizer runoff from the Mississippi valley.
:horrormirth:
I'm honestly quite upset about this shit.
Angry mostly. Horrified that all their efforts so far to cap this leaking hole have failed.
What's the next move? How do we fix?
SET IT ON FIRE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGcZrqP4f98
maybe all that's needed is 210,000 gallons of crude dawn dish soap to be unloaded into the water every day.
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on April 30, 2010, 04:22:10 AM
Quote from: Kai on April 30, 2010, 03:58:19 AM
What's funnier yet is that the location of the spill is just to the north of the gulf of Mexico dead zone caused by fertilizer runoff from the Mississippi valley.
:horrormirth:
ITS THE SIZE OF NEW JERSY! :lulz: :x
In spite of this, we should still drill in ANWAR.
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:mccain:
Quote from: LMNO on April 30, 2010, 02:49:40 PM
In spite of this, we should still drill in ANWAR.
\
:mccain:
Well, of course. Not doing so could cost jobs. JOBS! JOBS!
Sooooo...what's anyone doing about this?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 30, 2010, 08:09:06 PM
Sooooo...what's anyone doing about this?
Fretting, mostly.
It appears "high winds" are hampering the cleanup.
Quote from: LMNO on April 30, 2010, 08:10:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 30, 2010, 08:09:06 PM
Sooooo...what's anyone doing about this?
Fretting, mostly.
It appears "high winds" are hampering the cleanup.
I think I see another Katrina-esque horribly mismanaged screwup coming down the pike.
Florida must be shitting bricks. They do nothing but bitch CONSTANTLY at LA and TX for drilling in their corner of the Gulf.
The Coast Guard has already starting burning it off.
However, it IS BP, this is those fucking Brits payback for the Rev and 1812, isn't it? :argh!:
BEYOND PETROLEUM FUCKED!
BP is being held responsible, but they aren't really stepping up and taking any responsibility.
I, for one, am pissed.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-05/oil-soaked-crab-threatens-seafood-prices-at-top-ranked-eateries.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oil-spill-seafood-20100514,0,5221052.story
My girl Liv just started a job @ a local seafood vendor for the farmer's markets. I think her business is about to take off, but I'm all :x thinking about the people in the gulf area that are out of jobs.