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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Suu on May 05, 2010, 09:26:05 PM

Title: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Suu on May 05, 2010, 09:26:05 PM
http://www.hotsvideos.com/video/3367/Amazing-Girls-Dance-Single-Ladies

No. No. NO. Good dancers, yes, but...they're like 7!

Also, site NSFW. Video is, but site is NOT.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Richter on May 05, 2010, 09:26:45 PM
Ugh. :|
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Suu on May 05, 2010, 09:28:11 PM
If they were wearing more clothes and weren't on a softcore porn site...
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 05, 2010, 09:31:11 PM
:vom: WTF is WRONG with people? FUUUUUCK.  :x
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mangrove on May 05, 2010, 09:40:54 PM
GARGHGHRGHGHG MY EYES!!!

Wrong wrong wrong.

Ich.

Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Remington on May 05, 2010, 09:45:13 PM
NOT CLICKING
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Hoser McRhizzy on May 05, 2010, 09:46:42 PM
that was *not* sparkle motion...

:cry:
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mangrove on May 05, 2010, 09:47:33 PM
Not only is the video wrong. It's hosted in a very weird place.

Context is everything. If it was just on youtube, ok...it'd still be yukky. But this site is surrounded with suggestive content. Adult stuff for adults.

Is this some kind of police sting pedo-bait?
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Suu on May 05, 2010, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 05, 2010, 09:31:11 PM
:vom: WTF is WRONG with people? FUUUUUCK.  :x

Put your girls in martial arts. Please? I'd rather LO beat the fuck out of any pedo that comes after her...
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mangrove on May 05, 2010, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: Nurse Rhizome on May 05, 2010, 09:46:42 PM
that was *not* sparkle motion...

:cry:

It was most certainly not.


(though I didn't doubt their commitment)
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: hooplala on May 05, 2010, 10:04:04 PM
Holy fuck.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 05, 2010, 10:04:35 PM
Quote from: Suu on May 05, 2010, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 05, 2010, 09:31:11 PM
:vom: WTF is WRONG with people? FUUUUUCK.  :x

Put your girls in martial arts. Please? I'd rather LO beat the fuck out of any pedo that comes after her...

Oh, the math teacher is teaching them self-defense. EFO can already kick some serious ass and moves startlingly quickly for a chubby girl who is normally really lethargic.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 05, 2010, 10:48:26 PM
NOT CLICKING.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Kai on May 05, 2010, 10:49:58 PM
I don't have daughters, and even if I did, I wouldn't click.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Suu on May 05, 2010, 10:56:25 PM
For those that aren't clicking, it's a group of very talented girls dancing to "All the Single Ladies" at a recital. Unfortunately, they're dressed rather inappropriately and some of the moves are things that 9 year olds shouldn't be doing.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 05, 2010, 10:58:53 PM
Quote from: Suu on May 05, 2010, 10:56:25 PM
For those that aren't clicking, it's a group of very talented girls dancing to "All the Single Ladies" at a recital. Unfortunately, they're dressed rather inappropriately and some of the moves are things that 9 year olds shouldn't be doing.

Yeah, reminds me of those beauty pageants for 7 year olds.  :vom:
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Hoser McRhizzy on May 05, 2010, 11:03:31 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on May 05, 2010, 09:47:33 PM
Not only is the video wrong. It's hosted in a very weird place.

Context is everything. If it was just on youtube, ok...it'd still be yukky. But this site is surrounded with suggestive content. Adult stuff for adults.

Is this some kind of police sting pedo-bait?

Entirely possible, but that might be giving law enforcement on teh internet too much credit.  On that same line of thought though, could be an amateur, just fishing.  More likely - the same moms'/instructors' logic that put the routine and clothes together just wanted moar eyeballs for their precious baby sexpots.

brb. eyebleach.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Jasper on May 05, 2010, 11:06:23 PM
Fuck everything.  
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: hooplala on May 05, 2010, 11:34:54 PM
Most people here know where I work, and that very little is NSFW there... even so, I closed this page within about 15 seconds.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: bds on May 05, 2010, 11:53:31 PM
Urgh. I watched the whole thing, and though it takes a lot to shock me nowadays, that was pretty fucking disgusting, especially considering the context.

Right up there with that recent video about the talk show paedophile. :|
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
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Quote from: Remington on May 05, 2010, 09:45:13 PM
NOT CLICKING

THIS.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: -Kel- on May 06, 2010, 12:06:12 AM
Quote from: Suu on May 05, 2010, 10:56:25 PM
For those that aren't clicking, it's a group of very talented girls dancing to "All the Single Ladies" at a recital. Unfortunately, they're dressed rather inappropriately and some of the moves are things that 9 year olds shouldn't be doing.

I'm pretty disgusted at the parents that allowed this.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: -Kel- on May 06, 2010, 12:09:53 AM
just for that i had to go look up little kid awesomeness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDl0tOKKr_8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDl0tOKKr_8)

fully clothed, very talented, no moves that a child shouldn't perform.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mangrove on May 06, 2010, 12:15:19 AM
In before.......


......the mods can check to see if Uncle BadTouch's IP is viewing this thread!


Quote from: BDS on May 05, 2010, 11:53:31 PM
Right up there with that recent video about the talk show paedophile. :|

the wha....  :x
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Jasper on May 06, 2010, 12:36:55 AM
Quote from: -Kel- on May 06, 2010, 12:09:53 AM
just for that i had to go look up little kid awesomeness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDl0tOKKr_8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDl0tOKKr_8)

fully clothed, very talented, no moves that a child shouldn't perform.


This thread is now about this. 

That was 80's-tastic.  :)
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Pariah on May 06, 2010, 01:16:29 AM
Beyonce must be proud.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Freeky on May 06, 2010, 04:18:08 AM
What disturbed me most is the quality of that video. That wasn't just some school recital, that was a fucking televised event. I would bet money on it.


Quote from: Sigmatic on May 06, 2010, 12:36:55 AM
Quote from: -Kel- on May 06, 2010, 12:09:53 AM
just for that i had to go look up little kid awesomeness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDl0tOKKr_8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDl0tOKKr_8)

fully clothed, very talented, no moves that a child shouldn't perform.


This thread is now about this. 

THIS.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 06, 2010, 05:32:08 AM
:weary: WTF is wrong with people?
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 06, 2010, 05:47:17 AM
Ok, I didn't look at the site it was posted on, I only watched the video.

A) not enough clothes, not nearly enough
B) some of those moves are obviously inappropriate for girls that age, but they were obviously parroting Beyonce's video. (doesn't make it ok. not a bit)
C) the last thing on my mind, in fact it wasn't there at all, was anything related to any kind of sexual act. In fact if I had a wiener, it would have fallen off and been chewed up by one of the cats around here.
D) those kids can move. I miss having that kind of energy. And if they weren't dancing so... "over 18-ish", I would have to say the choreography was pretty damn good.

Still, too young for that kind of dancing.
Anyone seen that movie "Drop Dead Gorgeous"? Reminded me of that only with little bitty girls instead of HS seniors.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: EmmaE on May 06, 2010, 06:33:58 AM
To quote Dr. Steel: That was absolutely disgusting.   :|  :vom:

Yes, they're talented to be able to dance like that - but why would their parents approve to dancing like that? Childhood has changed...
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: bds on May 06, 2010, 07:41:43 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on May 06, 2010, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: BDS on May 05, 2010, 11:53:31 PM
Right up there with that recent video about the talk show paedophile. :|

the wha....  :x

You asked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0WW9BXdKuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0WW9BXdKuc) WARNING: Video contains horrific amounts of awkward.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 06, 2010, 08:05:15 AM
Quote from: BDS on May 06, 2010, 07:41:43 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on May 06, 2010, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: BDS on May 05, 2010, 11:53:31 PM
Right up there with that recent video about the talk show paedophile. :|

the wha....  :x

You asked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0WW9BXdKuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0WW9BXdKuc) WARNING: Video contains horrific amounts of awkward.

Ewwwww how could that stay on the air? I don't have a problem with normal adult/child kisses or anything, but that was creepytastic.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Reeducation on May 06, 2010, 09:08:44 AM
Well shiiit.  :sad:
Good morning ruined.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: BabylonHoruv on May 06, 2010, 03:32:11 PM
Ack!

*tries to find a way to scrub his brain.  Finds himself rereading millions of screaming yahoos to get the sort of filth he can comfortably process back in there.*

Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: BabylonHoruv on May 06, 2010, 03:34:58 PM
Quote from: -Kel- on May 06, 2010, 12:09:53 AM
just for that i had to go look up little kid awesomeness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDl0tOKKr_8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDl0tOKKr_8)

fully clothed, very talented, no moves that a child shouldn't perform.


That they are dancing to wildthing, and Japanese somehow adds to the accomplishment of you finding this.

Still I am trying to find something with the elderly in it to properly clean my brain.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on May 06, 2010, 03:47:24 PM
My daughter took a hip-hop class this year at the community center, the Dr. said no soccer after the broken arm.  By the time I get off work and get there to pick her up it's done.  My oldest picked her up one day early as we had plans.  He physically drug her out of the class, went off on the teacher and the community center director.  

I never saw exactly what he saw, but he said when he walked up about 10 teenage boys were crowded outside the windows and when he got there to see it was and I quote "dance sex" according to him.

It seems the be the norm.  The dance teams we have seen at football and basketball games this year, and these are high school and middle school girls, look like strip routines, just without the pole or taking everything off.  I have sat there in complete jaw dropping shock staring at some of what these girls do.  

All I can say is, as a parent, it's my responsibility to make sure stuff like that doesn't happen with my child.    

Joy is back in soccer.  :lulz:
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 06, 2010, 04:55:52 PM
It's revolting to me how many parents think it's cute when their little girls act like junior prostitutes. It's like the fashions; one of my friends calls it "Junior Slut; Fashion for Tots". It seems, also, to go hand-in-hand with the "I'm a brat and that's cute" mentality that later turns into "I'm a bitch and that makes me funny". No, actually; it just makes you unpleasant.

My sister has been training her daughter to be a tiny makeup-wearing, bratty fashion slave for several years, and the result is a shrill, annoying, loudly bitchy small child that I don't want to have in my house.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 06, 2010, 05:15:29 PM
yuck.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: hooplala on May 06, 2010, 05:20:06 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 06, 2010, 04:55:52 PM
It's revolting to me how many parents think it's cute when their little girls act like junior prostitutes. It's like the fashions; one of my friends calls it "Junior Slut; Fashion for Tots". It seems, also, to go hand-in-hand with the "I'm a brat and that's cute" mentality that later turns into "I'm a bitch and that makes me funny". No, actually; it just makes you unpleasant.

My sister has been training her daughter to be a tiny makeup-wearing, bratty fashion slave for several years, and the result is a shrill, annoying, loudly bitchy small child that I don't want to have in my house.

I never saw it before the Spice Girls came out... then it all went nuts.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mangrove on May 06, 2010, 05:22:17 PM
Quote from: BDS on May 06, 2010, 07:41:43 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on May 06, 2010, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: BDS on May 05, 2010, 11:53:31 PM
Right up there with that recent video about the talk show paedophile. :|

the wha....  :x

You asked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0WW9BXdKuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0WW9BXdKuc) WARNING: Video contains horrific amounts of awkward.

HOLEEE......FUCK that's disturbing.

By the way, NO MEANS NO YOU GAMESHOW DICKWAD!!!

Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Lies on May 06, 2010, 06:15:29 PM
Quote from: BDS on May 06, 2010, 07:41:43 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on May 06, 2010, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: BDS on May 05, 2010, 11:53:31 PM
Right up there with that recent video about the talk show paedophile. :|

the wha....  :x

You asked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0WW9BXdKuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0WW9BXdKuc) WARNING: Video contains horrific amounts of awkward.

I didn't want to watch it after the first 20 seconds, and yet I was compelled to watch the whole thing anyway, all the while wanting to punch that guy everytime he got up close to those poor kids.

Fucking sick asshole.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: EmmaE on May 07, 2010, 02:47:04 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 06, 2010, 04:55:52 PM
It's revolting to me how many parents think it's cute when their little girls act like junior prostitutes. It's like the fashions; one of my friends calls it "Junior Slut; Fashion for Tots".

Seen this yet?: http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes

Because they couldn't over-sexualize little girls any more, amirite?  :argh!:
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 07, 2010, 02:56:29 AM
Quote from: EmmaE on May 07, 2010, 02:47:04 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 06, 2010, 04:55:52 PM
It's revolting to me how many parents think it's cute when their little girls act like junior prostitutes. It's like the fashions; one of my friends calls it "Junior Slut; Fashion for Tots".

Seen this yet?: http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes

Because they couldn't over-sexualize little girls any more, amirite?  :argh!:

YEAH I saw that! FUCKING CREEPY AS SHIT.

You know what kinds of lingerie little girls should wear? HANES COTTON PANTIES WITH BUTTERFLIES AND TELETUBBIES GODDAMNIT. AND AN UNDERSHIRT.

ASGDLFSHLYHSLF:JKALSHLS:FAK!
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 07, 2010, 02:58:31 AM
ALSO, "PARENTING". So your kid wants to do something that's innocently ambitious but not really age-appropriate. That's when you tell them, "That's such a smart idea sweetie, but not really appropriate for children your age, so I'm going to have to say no".
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: EmmaE on May 07, 2010, 03:10:01 AM
Hell, I'd be amazed if anyone actually parents anymore. A younger friend of mine (I'm 25, he's 19) fucking raged and pouted like a child because his parents couldn't get him both a leather jacket and a 360 game for his birthday. Methinks he's allergic to jobs, as well as a strong sense of appreciation for what he has (a top of the line computer, spending money, etc etc); if I acted like he did, I would have gotten the shit slapped out of me.
All I seem to see is nothing but a bunch of spoiled brats who think they're entitled to everything in the world for being born.

Then again, this could be because I worked in retail lots and read STFU Parents, so..
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 07, 2010, 03:28:24 AM
I can think of a few people on this board who actually parent.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: EmmaE on May 07, 2010, 03:32:20 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 07, 2010, 03:28:24 AM
I can think of a few people on this board who actually parent.

Ack, no offense intended to present/board company, sorry.  :sad:
It was generally speaking, or at least in the area that I currently live in.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 07, 2010, 03:47:12 AM
Speaking for myself, in the area I live in, I think teenagers these days are a far cry better than the rotten little troublemaking, disrespectful shits we were when I was a kid; which means someone's doing some parenting.

I have some doubts about the younger ones, though.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Suu on May 07, 2010, 04:43:07 AM
I thoroughly deserved it every time my mother backhanded me. And the one time my dad smashed my head through the drywall, yeah...I totally had that one coming.

No really. It went like this.

17 Year Old Suu: I can do whatever I want! You assholes can't stop me!

Dad: Whatever happened to the 4th Commandment? You need to watch your mouth...right now...I mean it.

Punkass Suu: Fuck you, dad! You crippled old bastard!

*BOOM*

:cry:



Did I run away? No. Did I tell family services? No. I'm just fucking lucky I missed a stud. No blood, no real pain since it was drywall, but not only did I have to replace the wall, I don't think I've ever talked back to my parents since, even with 1500mi between us. Nowadays if a parent does that they're thrown in jail. I remember getting dragged out of the grocery store for being a little shit, getting spanked, and left in the car until they were done shopping too. Again, something that only happened ONCE.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Nast on May 07, 2010, 05:18:29 AM
Jeez.

:x
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: BabylonHoruv on May 07, 2010, 05:22:11 AM
Quote from: EmmaE on May 07, 2010, 02:47:04 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 06, 2010, 04:55:52 PM
It's revolting to me how many parents think it's cute when their little girls act like junior prostitutes. It's like the fashions; one of my friends calls it "Junior Slut; Fashion for Tots".

Seen this yet?: http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes

Because they couldn't over-sexualize little girls any more, amirite?  :argh!:

Fucking Billy Ray Cyrus.  I knew his evil wasn't restrained to spreading the mullet.

Miley has never struck me as overly sexualized, but he's certainly marketed her like a product with ghoulish brilliance.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: bds on May 07, 2010, 08:00:15 AM
O RLY http://uk.eonline.com/uberblog/b179357_exclusive_miley_cyrus_cant_be_tamed.html
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Juana on May 07, 2010, 08:19:04 AM
She's only seventeen? I never knew that. I like how the comments suggest that she's grown up, now that she's doing this kind of stuff, and that she's not doing anything Brittney Spears wasn't at her age (how does that excuse it?). Feels like one part Lady Gaga to one part Brittney Spears. Minus the general awesome of Gaga.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: BabylonHoruv on May 07, 2010, 09:07:06 AM
Quote from: BDS on May 07, 2010, 08:00:15 AM
O RLY http://uk.eonline.com/uberblog/b179357_exclusive_miley_cyrus_cant_be_tamed.html

Yeah, definitely some sex there.  Doesn't look out of line for a 17 year old to me.  It's not at the level of Xtina.  Brittney Spears is a really poor example since she went completely bonkers.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Triple Zero on May 07, 2010, 10:05:40 AM
why can't all those fundie conservatives and fox news and shit rage against this?

I mean, values and shit, that's what they're all for right?

But nooooooooo they gotta go to retarded demonstrations on teabaggery instead of, like, for once, fighting some something that's useful for a change.

BTW I didnt click the video and only watched 20 secs of that gameshow bit before I switched it off.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Richter on May 07, 2010, 01:30:02 PM
Master Pat, talking about taking a swing at his dad and getting served: "Yeah it was stupid.  Why did I do it?  NO clue. I was 16."
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: LMNO on May 07, 2010, 01:32:26 PM
I was such a good kid.  Never took a swing at my dad, or even mouthed off to them.

I rebelled by growing my hair out and having sex with guys.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: bds on May 07, 2010, 01:55:04 PM
To be honest, I actually quite like Miley Cyrus. *shrug*
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Suu on May 07, 2010, 01:55:51 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 07, 2010, 10:05:40 AM
why can't all those fundie conservatives and fox news and shit rage against this?

I mean, values and shit, that's what they're all for right?

But nooooooooo they gotta go to retarded demonstrations on teabaggery instead of, like, for once, fighting some something that's useful for a change.

BTW I didnt click the video and only watched 20 secs of that gameshow bit before I switched it off.

Because it's their girls in the skimpy outfits.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: LMNO on May 07, 2010, 02:07:47 PM
I'm pretty sure this kind of thing only happens in heterosexual marriages.



Yet another reason to legalize gay marriage.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Hoser McRhizzy on May 07, 2010, 04:12:53 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 07, 2010, 10:05:40 AM
why can't all those fundie conservatives and fox news and shit rage against this?

Same reason they get frothy over proof of child abuse on the internet but have nothing to say about the kids or adults actually involved.  Criticizing what parents do to their kids on a regular basis and not citing 'bad apples' as the cause, at least for the hard-core family values people, would mean an unthinkable overhaul.

Example.  Stolen from Ken's Guide to the Bible:
II Samuel 13: 1-20.  David's son Amnon brutally rapes his 1/2 sister Tamar.  Another of David's sons, Absalom, finds out about the rape and comforts Tamar with these words, "Has that Amnon, your brother, been with you?  Be quiet now, my sister; he is your brother.  Don't take this thing to heart."

^^family values^^

- answering on the slim chance that your question wasn't rhetorical.  tl;dr: what Suu said.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 07, 2010, 04:26:38 PM
Quote from: EmmaE on May 07, 2010, 02:47:04 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 06, 2010, 04:55:52 PM
It's revolting to me how many parents think it's cute when their little girls act like junior prostitutes. It's like the fashions; one of my friends calls it "Junior Slut; Fashion for Tots".

Seen this yet?: http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes

Because they couldn't over-sexualize little girls any more, amirite?  :argh!:

Dude. Eew. That shit looks terrible.
Suu can sympathize here I'm sure. Fashion is made for age groups based on development and shape. When you start putting skimpy tight fitting low waisted dresses on baby fatted, pot bellied, high waisted little girls, it looks TERRIBLE.
Not only skanky but just wrong and terrible! Like and empire waist on Beyonce. She has great curves, why would you do that?? You wouldn't.
So why the FUCK would you put adult cuts on a child who isn't shaped right??

Not to mention the whole sexualizing thing, that's just a given.

Also, my parents whooped my ass too and I damn well deserved it. And every time I whooped my son's ass he deserved it. And he knew it, so he took it.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Jenne on May 07, 2010, 04:35:12 PM
It's the hypocrisy of our great nation that allows this:  an African American woman's tit on TV is to be shamed and degraded, whereas children who are sexualized beyond belief are to be praised as "America's talent." 

...irony is that those little girls are EMULATING another African American woman.

Those girls, if you remove the suggestive moves and the costumes, worked their asses off and probably do dance competitions (that's what this was, I've seen similar videos) all the time, circuit after circuit.  They don't even know or recognize what it is they are up there looking like--they just do the moves, the facial expressions, and try to be precise.

Which is pretty sad in and of itself.  The message they send out to the world at large with such a display is ignored and washed over by the drive to win, and each dancer experiences the oversexualization over a long period of time.  Khara's right:  the routines get sluttier and sluttier all the way to college.  No one stops it--they all want to "win" and look "the best."  Right now, the fact that sex is selling with 7 year olds is not fazing the industry that's perpetuating it.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Telarus on May 07, 2010, 06:22:50 PM
The book Outliers that I've recently been reading through claims you need approx 1,000 hours of practice to get _really good_ at something.

Trying to fit that many hours of practice into your child's life can be difficult, but do-able, if you start early (the example used in the book was Hockey, but same goes for music, art, or other sports).

Yeah, the fact that current dance trends require stripperella moves means the parents who want the child to be good enough to compete when they are 18 means they start this shit this early.


Yeah, it's disgusting.  :argh!: Just take your kid to gymnastics or ballet or martial arts or something classic like that so they can leverage those awesome skills when it comes time to try out for America's Got Talent or whatever BS you're hallucinating for them when they grow up.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: LMNO on May 07, 2010, 06:31:45 PM
Maybe they're all training to be really, really good strippers when they turn 18.





LMNO
-might have just had a change of heart about all this.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 07, 2010, 06:31:46 PM
Quote from: Telarus on May 07, 2010, 06:22:50 PM
The book Outliers that I've recently been reading through claims you need approx 1,000 hours of practice to get _really good_ at something.

Trying to fit that many hours of practice into your child's life can be difficult, but do-able, if you start early (the example used in the book was Hockey, but same goes for music, art, or other sports).

Yeah, the fact that current dance trends require stripperella moves means the parents who want the child to be good enough to compete when they are 18 means they start this shit this early.


Yeah, it's disgusting.  :argh!: Just take your kid to gymnastics or ballet or martial arts or something classic like that so they can leverage those awesome skills when it comes time to try out for America's Got Talent or whatever BS you're hallucinating for them when they grow up.

I've told students that 1000 hours thing, and they don't fucking like it. :lulz: A lot of people want to be good at something NOW. I would applaud parents who encouraged their kids to really stick with something, except that oftentimes they choose to push their kids at things that are physically or emotionally detrimental to them; one of my friends is all KINDS of fucked up, physically, from being in gymnastics for many years as a child.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Suu on May 08, 2010, 12:54:01 AM
My dad repeatedly would tell me how much I suck when I would lose at a Taekwondo tournament, especially on the National level. He also would tell me how much better my sister was than me.

In the end, my sister permanently fucked her IT Band when she was 17, and I've destroyed my knees and ankles. Thanks Dad. Sorry you couldn't walk as a child.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 08, 2010, 01:28:23 AM
Quote from: Suu on May 08, 2010, 12:54:01 AM
My dad repeatedly would tell me how much I suck when I would lose at a Taekwondo tournament, especially on the National level. He also would tell me how much better my sister was than me.

In the end, my sister permanently fucked her IT Band when she was 17, and I've destroyed my knees and ankles. Thanks Dad. Sorry you couldn't walk as a child.

:x That's fucked. And of course, there are all the skaters whose knees are destroyed by age 15.

It would be one thing if the health risks for child athletes weren't documented, but they're well-known. So parents push their kids to do these things for what?
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Jenne on May 08, 2010, 04:25:09 AM
...live vicariously through them, of course.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 08, 2010, 05:04:36 AM
some kids like...really like these things you know....
im pretty sure the amount of kids wanting to do activities outweigh pushy stage mothers
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Jenne on May 08, 2010, 05:37:00 AM
Sometimes.  But you can overstimulate them.  I mean, they're KIDS.  They pretty much are herded from activity to activity.  Most kids LOVE anything that's not school.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 08, 2010, 05:53:44 AM
Most kids love almost any activity for a little while, and then they want to move on to something new. That's just the way most of 'em are wired... little novelty seekers. That starts to change around 10-12, when their attention spans get longer and they become capable of real dedication.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 08, 2010, 06:47:31 AM
tr00f--

my son's "step-mother" or whatever you wanna call her, pushed him into soccer and he got really bored with it really quick. so did the other kids. i think it was more for the parents amusement.
he took an interest in band and nobody pushes him but we encourage him with positive feedback. he LOVES it. LOVEZ.
Title: Re: To Nigel and any other parent with daughters.
Post by: Suu on May 09, 2010, 05:14:56 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 08, 2010, 01:28:23 AM
Quote from: Suu on May 08, 2010, 12:54:01 AM
My dad repeatedly would tell me how much I suck when I would lose at a Taekwondo tournament, especially on the National level. He also would tell me how much better my sister was than me.

In the end, my sister permanently fucked her IT Band when she was 17, and I've destroyed my knees and ankles. Thanks Dad. Sorry you couldn't walk as a child.

:x That's fucked. And of course, there are all the skaters whose knees are destroyed by age 15.

It would be one thing if the health risks for child athletes weren't documented, but they're well-known. So parents push their kids to do these things for what?


My sister first knew something was up when she was 14. She sat up in bed and all I heard was this POP and watch her sorta fall back into bed pale as all hell. Her hip almost dislocated because of how tight the tendon was. She got her MRI and went to a little PT, but my parents were like, "Oh you're just a kid. You'll be fine. Shake it off..." (They said the same thing to me the first time my ankle went at a 90 degree angle of course.) So she never finished her PT. She's still pretty flexible, but now she's really susceptible to severe cramps down her right leg, the possibility of her hip popping out of place, and a constant popping every time she sits up. :(