A teacher is fired for beating a student. Article:
http://www.mail.com/Article.aspx/topheadlines/0/APNews/Top-Headlines/20100515/U_US-Houston-Videotaped-Beating?pageid=1
Kind of surprising at the end, where it reveals that this science teacher/mother of two was also in trouble for slashing someone's tires.
I wonder why she beat the kid.
If he was like any of the kids at my school, I really don't blame her.
My teacher beats me up every morning...
I'm up at 8:00, and he gets up at 7:45...
Oh hey, that's a change from when I was in school. They used to charge students with assault after teachers attacked them.
Quote from: Abbess Jade on May 15, 2010, 08:13:16 PM
I wonder why she beat the kid.
If he was like any of the kids at my school, I really don't blame her.
It doesn't matter why, and there is no way for it to ever be OK for an adult, or any stronger person, to beat a child or weaker person past the point of defenselessness.
Quote from: dimo on May 15, 2010, 08:14:13 PM
My teacher beats me up every morning...
I'm up at 8:00, and he gets up at 7:45...
:rimshot:
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 15, 2010, 08:17:02 PM
Quote from: dimo on May 15, 2010, 08:14:13 PM
My teacher beats me up every morning...
I'm up at 8:00, and he gets up at 7:45...
:rimshot:
:thanks:
But seriously, ladies and germs, I just flew in from Guam, and boy are my arms tired.
OT: I agree with Nigel.
QuoteIt doesn't matter why, and there is no way for it to ever be OK for an adult, or any stronger person, to beat a child or weaker person past the point of defenselessness.
I know. I'm not condoning it.
It just makes me wonder what he must have done or said to possibly go as far as beat the boy.
Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZgn8-aaiz0
It looks like fun and games until she starts kicking and punching.
Teachers are NOT supposed to act like thugs.
End of story.
Whoa, that's horrible.
And there were all those kids around, too.
No one came to stop her?
Okay, that was obviously not self defense. Regardless of what HE said or did to instigate, she deserved to be fired and frankly should have been tried for assault on a minor.
I winced when his head hit the wall. Ouch.
Quote from: Abbess Jade on May 15, 2010, 08:34:19 PM
Whoa, that's horrible.
And there were all those kids around, too.
No one came to stop her?
And get suspension or expelled for "assaulting" a teacher?
Goddamn I hate humans.
From the people talking and laughing in the video, apparently he was trying to fight the fat girl at the end of the clip. And the teacher apparently got mad and beat him, or something.
I don't know, but the teacher needs to end up in jail, seriously. She needs to be tried for assault on a minor, something. She needs to be put away.
QuoteAnd get suspension or expelled for "assaulting" a teacher?
Goddamn I hate humans.
He got suspended/expelled?
Apparently, he was poking fun and trying to fight a girl with down syndrome.
Quote from: Abbess Jade on May 15, 2010, 08:42:50 PM
From the people talking and laughing in the video, apparently he was trying to fight the fat girl at the end of the clip. And the teacher apparently got mad and beat him, or something.
I don't know, but the teacher needs to end up in jail, seriously. She needs to be tried for assault on a minor, something. She needs to be put away.
QuoteAnd get suspension or expelled for "assaulting" a teacher?
Goddamn I hate humans.
He got suspended/expelled?
If a teacher goes after someone, and your school has a zero tolerance policy on violence, and you try to stop the teacher, what do you think is going to happen to YOU?
Yeah, I know I sure wouldn't try if I had been in that class.
:sad:
The best part is, the school didn't do a damn thing, despite witnesses, until a video recording became public. :lulz:
There's something to be said for a surveillance state where the state doesn't control the surveillance.
QuoteIf a teacher goes after someone, and your school has a zero tolerance policy on violence, and you try to stop the teacher, what do you think is going to happen to YOU?
Yeah, I know I sure wouldn't try if I had been in that class.
Yes, but, there seemed to be plenty of staffers around there, too. They could have stopped it as well... :sad:
Nah, in any confrontation where a tacher attacks a student the other teachers/staffers join in against the student (at least in my experience).
Quote from: Abbess Jade on May 15, 2010, 08:24:43 PM
QuoteIt doesn't matter why, and there is no way for it to ever be OK for an adult, or any stronger person, to beat a child or weaker person past the point of defenselessness.
I know. I'm not condoning it.
It just makes me wonder what he must have done or said to possibly go as far as beat the boy.
I'll sum it up for you; "was in a class with someone who has an anger management problem and shouldn't be teaching".
That woman was at least twice as big as the kid, and the kid was literally cowering in a corner with his hands up in terror. I wonder how often she's beaten students before. Maybe that's why someone had their cell phone ready, this time.
I don't care what kind of assholery that kid was up to before she beat the shit out of him. That's what detention and parent-teacher meetings are for. People who cannot resist the urge to beat on children shouldn't work with them. Sorta like, my friend can be as big a bitch as she wants to her massive brute of a fiance, and if he is feeling like he can't resist the urge to beat the shit out of her, that is his signal that he should break off the engagement and leave the relationship.
If you can't fucking handle teaching, don't fucking be a teacher.
Quote from: Kai on May 15, 2010, 08:39:22 PM
Quote from: Abbess Jade on May 15, 2010, 08:34:19 PM
Whoa, that's horrible.
And there were all those kids around, too.
No one came to stop her?
And get suspension or expelled for "assaulting" a teacher?
Officially known as the "Police Officer Paradox". Try and stop the violence, and you'll get charged with violence yourself. You'll also probably get beaten as well.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 15, 2010, 08:50:56 PM
There's something to be said for a surveillance state where the state doesn't control the surveillance.
This.
Quote from: Sigmatic on May 15, 2010, 08:32:58 PM
Teachers are NOT supposed to act like thugs.
End of story.
Yeah, the students do that enough as is.
I knew a few teachers who were the unofficial "Bouncers" of the school, but they only ever stopped / separated fights. Like Nigel said, no excuse for beating someone who's already defenseless and on the ground.
:x
this woman should have her ass in jail
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 15, 2010, 08:50:56 PM
The best part is, the school didn't do a damn thing, despite witnesses, until a video recording became public. :lulz:
There's something to be said for a surveillance state where the state doesn't people control the surveillance.
Fixed for, you know, Google and Facebook and that sort of shit.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 15, 2010, 08:55:19 PM
Nah, in any confrontation where a teacher attacks a student the other teachers/staffers join in against the student (at least in my experience).
Hm if I ever become a teacher (still might, one day), not where I fucking work they won't.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 15, 2010, 08:55:19 PM
Nah, in any confrontation where a tacher attacks a student the other teachers/staffers join in against the student (at least in my experience).
Where the fuck do you live where teachers assault kids on a regular basis?
This shit is sad ass sad. I can see her losing her shit and throwing/pushing him off the chick, but continuing to beat and kick like that is badwrong. And yeah, she needs jailtime.
At the very least, revoke her teaching credentials.
Quote from: Abbess Jade on May 15, 2010, 08:34:19 PM
Whoa, that's horrible.
And there were all those kids around, too.
No one came to stop her?
In addition to the points about getting wrongfully charged with assault against the teacher, allow me to introduce the Bystander Effect.
Here's how it works:
1) Horrible shit is going down. A is kid being beaten by a much larger teacher, a woman is being pummeled to death with the butt end of a shotgun by her angry ex-boyfriend, etc.
2) Plenty of people are there, seeing it happen in front of their very eyes. A classroom full of kids and potentially some other adults witnessing, a neighborhood street in broad daylight with at least half a dozen people witnessing, etc.
3) No one does shit, or if anyone does, they're powerless to help. A kid records the incident on their phone and no one steps in, an old man tries to stop the armed, angry ex-boyfriend and the obvious happens, etc.
4) Word gets out, and the world cries, "Why did no one DO anything?!"
5) Rinse, repeat.
(btw the 'woman being beaten on broad daylight in front of people' incident was something that actually happened in Hawaii while I lived there. That was a bad week on O'ahu.)
Quote from: Abbess Jade on May 15, 2010, 08:45:49 PM
Apparently, he was poking fun and trying to fight a girl with down syndrome.
If that was the case, shouldn't the teacher have allowed the other students to beat him mercilessly? Less risk same result. Either way it's yet another shocking and disappointing instance of abuse of power / body size / whatever.
On the bystander effect stuff, there was an interesting part on that in "Superfreakonomics". Weird shit but less shocking after a little reading into that stuff. As for happening on O'ahu? Fuck on the Big Island as long as it was a fist fight all was well, sometimes they'd end up going after cops in the brawls too. Gun / knife / other higher levels of violence weren't normal but the whole "settle your beef with the fists" thing was pretty normal, kept a lot of people in line :)
I'd like to add that the bystander effect is caused by observing how other people are reacting to the situation. In uncertain circumstances, we tend to do what everyone else is doing. And when shit like this happens, everyone else seems to be looking at everyone else, or staring in horror.
Awareness of the bystander effect, and cultivating a sense of individual heroism, are thought to be the best ways of overcoming the bystander effect.
Narot, where you stay? Kona-side? Hilo-side?
<----- South Point kid.
Wow! The American education system is catching up with the UK fast. :lulz:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6680522.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6680522.ece)
Quote from: Telarus on June 05, 2010, 08:11:12 PM
Narot, where you stay? Kona-side? Hilo-side?
<----- South Point kid.
No foolin, huh? Were you out in Naalehu? So peaceful there, if I had the money and no work that's where I'd have been :) Hilo when I was there, fun stuffs. Vog was killin me tho :S