The Gulf Coast Walrus,
Odobenus mexicanus.
What, it doesn't exist, you say? And neither do the other experts in BP's Gulf of Mexico Response Plan?
http://www.csmonitor.com/From-the-news-wires/2010/0609/BP-s-gulf-oil-spill-response-plan-lists-the-walrus-as-a-local-species.-Louisiana-Gov.-Bobby-Jindal-is-furious? (http://www.csmonitor.com/From-the-news-wires/2010/0609/BP-s-gulf-oil-spill-response-plan-lists-the-walrus-as-a-local-species.-Louisiana-Gov.-Bobby-Jindal-is-furious?)
QuoteProfessor Peter Lutz is listed in BP's 2009 response plan for a Gulf of Mexico oil spill as a national wildlife expert. He died in 2005.
Under the heading "sensitive biological resources," the plan lists marine mammals including walruses, sea otters, sea lions and seals. None lives anywhere near the Gulf.
The names and phone numbers of several Texas A&M University marine life specialists are wrong. So are the numbers for marine mammal stranding network offices in Louisiana and Florida, which are no longer in service.
Oh well. Nothing we can do about that now, might as well chalk it up to an honest mistake.
I heard from Cainad that in their response plan they list a manufacturer that can provide cleanup equipment... and that the website they link to is actually an unrelated japanese infomercial.
Ow. My brain hurts now...
Fuck You, Kai!
:x
Quote from: Cramulus on June 14, 2010, 07:35:31 PM
I heard from Cainad that in their response plan they list a manufacturer that can provide cleanup equipment... and that the website they link to is actually an unrelated japanese infomercial.
Come on, websites change all the time! And a slight difference in URL causes a big difference in the site it goes to, you know?
*hand waving and men behind curtains*
Quote from: Cramulus on June 14, 2010, 07:35:31 PM
I heard from Cainad that in their response plan they list a manufacturer that can provide cleanup equipment... and that the website they link to is actually an unrelated japanese infomercial.
Did someone say cleanup equipment?
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What's that you say, simple, straightforward problem turning into an epic clusterfuck? Reports sounding exponentially more retarded by the millisecond? Surely not, that would mean it's business as usual :horrormirth:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 14, 2010, 11:31:57 PM
What's that you say, simple, straightforward problem turning into an epic clusterfuck? Reports sounding exponentially more retarded by the millisecond? Surely not, that would mean it's business as usual :horrormirth:
Clusterfuck? No, this is just a mismanagement of implementation temporal missed opportunity. Retarded? No, that's a misfiling of middle management psychological documentation.
But yes, it is business as usual.
This enrages me.
Maddow has been going on about this for a while.
It's quite interesting to see a BP spokesperson's reaction when confronted with this "wtf is this?" question. He wasn't stunned, he just kinda flim flammed his way around it, making himself and the company look like ASSES
What really really gets me about this is; BP wrote this report for the regulators. Didn't they fucking read it? I expect BP to do as little as possible if they aren't forced to, that's what we have the regulators for.
Not only that, but this can't be isolated, they must have *known* the regulators would let it slide, or they wouldn't have done such a half assed job, so every other oil spill response plan in the country is probably just as screwed up.
A friend of mine is involved with the cleanup efforts. He insists that of all the companies involved BP is being the most responsible, as they are actually paying for cleanup, while the others (Halliburton etc) are not doing so. He feels the media portrayal is badly lopsided.
The spokesperson's reply to "why wasn't more research and development put into clean-up" was basically something along the lines of- there wasn't enough oil spilled to warrant investing all the money into it..
Here--
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/
Oh, he's a chief operating officer this guy is
So I'm getting the impression that BP frequently utilizes the "rent a white guy" strategy. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/rent-a-white-guy/8119
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 15, 2010, 06:08:51 AM
What really really gets me about this is; BP wrote this report for the regulators. Didn't they fucking read it? I expect BP to do as little as possible if they aren't forced to, that's what we have the regulators for.
Not only that, but this can't be isolated, they must have *known* the regulators would let it slide, or they wouldn't have done such a half assed job, so every other oil spill response plan in the country is probably just as screwed up.
The problem is that the regulators used to be oil industry executives and the oil industry executives used to be regulators. They went golfing with each other. They would go on vacation together. They went to football games together. And many times they were literally in bed with each other. There was so much inbreeding between the two groups that we ended up with this ultra-retarded situation.
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on June 15, 2010, 06:14:17 AM
The spokesperson's reply to "why wasn't more research and development put into clean-up" was basically something along the lines of- there wasn't enough oil spilled to warrant investing all the money into it..
Here--
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/
Oh, he's a chief operating officer this guy is
That video kinda bugs me, of course none of these things have been tried at this depth, we haven't had anything like this since 1980, techniques have advanced a bit since then.
Was BP supposed to create a leak on purpose just so they can try out capping strategies? :?
Wait, so, they shouldn't have done any testing or research or even called some nerds or the fucking myth busters at least?
Just spill some oil then try to clean it up?
Huh????
The only technique of theirs that has advanced is the fucking deeper drilling. Not how to cap it or stop it or at least drill some relief wells with it to kill it "just in case"...
I'm not sure what you're getting at.
I mean, if I were to build a car I'd need to figure out how to make it stop as well as go. Right?
Er, no. Clearly they don't know what their doing down there. But even if they had been spending huge amounts of resources on figuring out what to do in this kind of scenario, they couldn't have tested any of them at this depth until now.
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on June 15, 2010, 07:08:53 AM
Wait, so, they shouldn't have done any testing or research or even called some nerds or the fucking myth busters at least?
Just spill some oil then try to clean it up?
Huh????
The only technique of theirs that has advanced is the fucking deeper drilling. Not how to cap it or stop it or at least drill some relief wells with it to kill it "just in case"...
I'm not sure what you're getting at.
I mean, if I were to build a car I'd need to figure out how to make it stop as well as go. Right?
Stop? What the hell are you talking about, this car will run for evar - we'll all be rich. Who the hell would want something like that to stop? Forget about tomorrow, there's no such thing. We're making a metric fuckton of money today. Just look at the happy smiling faces of the shareholders if you don't believe me. Don't worry about the edge of that cliff, it's miles away, anyway we have a contingency plan - we're kinda hoping the car will sprout wings and fly. Don't you feel safer already?
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 15, 2010, 08:25:21 AM
Er, no. Clearly they don't know what their doing down there. But even if they had been spending huge amounts of resources on figuring out what to do in this kind of scenario, they couldn't have tested any of them at this depth until now.
HEADLINE: INDUSTRY DON'T KNOA WTF THEY DOIN.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 15, 2010, 08:25:21 AM
Er, no. Clearly they don't know what their doing down there. But even if they had been spending huge amounts of resources on figuring out what to do in this kind of scenario, they couldn't have tested any of them at this depth until now.
Sure they couldn't have
tested things at that depth, but dude, we can build rockets and shoot men up into space, I'm certain we have science to help figure these things out.
I mean, how did we know it was a vacuum up there?
It just sounds so ridiculously retarded to me that they couldn't use a little.. I dunno, MATH? Or something?
Quote from: Kai on June 14, 2010, 07:33:05 PM
The Gulf Coast Walrus, Odobenus mexicanus.
What, it doesn't exist, you say? And neither do the other experts in BP's Gulf of Mexico Response Plan?
http://www.csmonitor.com/From-the-news-wires/2010/0609/BP-s-gulf-oil-spill-response-plan-lists-the-walrus-as-a-local-species.-Louisiana-Gov.-Bobby-Jindal-is-furious? (http://www.csmonitor.com/From-the-news-wires/2010/0609/BP-s-gulf-oil-spill-response-plan-lists-the-walrus-as-a-local-species.-Louisiana-Gov.-Bobby-Jindal-is-furious?)
QuoteProfessor Peter Lutz is listed in BP's 2009 response plan for a Gulf of Mexico oil spill as a national wildlife expert. He died in 2005.
Under the heading "sensitive biological resources," the plan lists marine mammals including walruses, sea otters, sea lions and seals. None lives anywhere near the Gulf.
The names and phone numbers of several Texas A&M University marine life specialists are wrong. So are the numbers for marine mammal stranding network offices in Louisiana and Florida, which are no longer in service.
Oh well. Nothing we can do about that now, might as well chalk it up to an honest mistake.
Beyond Petroleum Fucked
from urbandictionary...
That's What BP Said
A variant of "that's what she said." Instead of referring to sexual connotations, it is used to refer to spending a lot of money, making a mess, or fucking up very badly. Arose after the 2010 BP oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico.
X: Oh man, I really screwed the pooch on that one.
Y: That's what BP said!
X: It's going to take me all day to clean this mess up.
Y: That's what BP said!
X: I'm paying tonight. The sky is the limit.
Y: That's what BP said!
appropriate I suppose
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on June 15, 2010, 04:06:45 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 15, 2010, 08:25:21 AM
Er, no. Clearly they don't know what their doing down there. But even if they had been spending huge amounts of resources on figuring out what to do in this kind of scenario, they couldn't have tested any of them at this depth until now.
Sure they couldn't have tested things at that depth, but dude, we can build rockets and shoot men up into space, I'm certain we have science to help figure these things out.
I mean, how did we know it was a vacuum up there?
It just sounds so ridiculously retarded to me that they couldn't use a little.. I dunno, MATH? Or something?
And the first time we sent a man into space would this woman have been bitching about how this has never been tested before with a human being?
My point is that she's spouting near tautologies. There are plenty of valid criticisms to go around, that these things have never been tested at the depth isn't one of them, because that's fucking impossible without creating a spill like this on purpose, or waiting for one to actually happen.
Couldn't they have used computer simulations? If we can simulate hurricanes with all their variables, couldn't they have at least given that a shot?
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 15, 2010, 06:25:27 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on June 15, 2010, 04:06:45 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 15, 2010, 08:25:21 AM
Er, no. Clearly they don't know what their doing down there. But even if they had been spending huge amounts of resources on figuring out what to do in this kind of scenario, they couldn't have tested any of them at this depth until now.
Sure they couldn't have tested things at that depth, but dude, we can build rockets and shoot men up into space, I'm certain we have science to help figure these things out.
I mean, how did we know it was a vacuum up there?
It just sounds so ridiculously retarded to me that they couldn't use a little.. I dunno, MATH? Or something?
And the first time we sent a man into space would this woman have been bitching about how this has never been tested before with a human being?
My point is that she's spouting near tautologies. There are plenty of valid criticisms to go around, that these things have never been tested at the depth isn't one of them, because that's fucking impossible without creating a spill like this on purpose, or waiting for one to actually happen.
Why do you do this?
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 15, 2010, 09:22:15 PM
Couldn't they have used computer simulations? If we can simulate hurricanes with all their variables, couldn't they have at least given that a shot?
That's not the same as testing the methods at this depth.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:35:18 PM
Why do you do this?
Flawed logic is flawed logic, even if it leads to the conclusions I want.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 15, 2010, 10:01:09 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 15, 2010, 09:22:15 PM
Couldn't they have used computer simulations? If we can simulate hurricanes with all their variables, couldn't they have at least given that a shot?
That's not the same as testing the methods at this depth.
But that's the best that could have been done under IRL circumstances and testing via simulation would give them something, right? And something is better than nothing. I'd rather be unhappy that their simulation was wrong than that no testing of any kind was done.
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 15, 2010, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 15, 2010, 10:01:09 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 15, 2010, 09:22:15 PM
Couldn't they have used computer simulations? If we can simulate hurricanes with all their variables, couldn't they have at least given that a shot?
That's not the same as testing the methods at this depth.
But that's the best that could have been done under IRL circumstances
That's my point, nothing that could have been done in the last 30 years (except you know, not spilling a million barrels of oil into the ocean in the first place), would be able to deflect a criticism that it had never actually been tried before at the depth.
Hey, REQUIA! Your logic is ruining our Hate on Industrial HumanityTM thread.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 15, 2010, 10:01:09 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 15, 2010, 09:22:15 PM
Couldn't they have used computer simulations? If we can simulate hurricanes with all their variables, couldn't they have at least given that a shot?
That's not the same as testing the methods at this depth.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:35:18 PM
Why do you do this?
Flawed logic is flawed logic, even if it leads to the conclusions I want.
No, I mean the pedantic, insulting wording.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 10:29:29 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 15, 2010, 10:01:09 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 15, 2010, 09:22:15 PM
Couldn't they have used computer simulations? If we can simulate hurricanes with all their variables, couldn't they have at least given that a shot?
That's not the same as testing the methods at this depth.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:35:18 PM
Why do you do this?
Flawed logic is flawed logic, even if it leads to the conclusions I want.
No, I mean the pedantic, insulting wording.
I wasn't aware I was being insulting or pedantic? :?
Please describe what I did and how I might be able to say it better so I can avoid that in the future.
Of course, the impossibility to really developing a failsafe plan was one of the main arguments against allowing offshore drilling in the first place. But we don't want to talk about that.
Quote from: Nigel on June 16, 2010, 01:45:25 AM
Of course, the impossibility to really developing a failsafe plan was one of the main arguments against allowing offshore drilling in the first place. But we don't want to talk about that.
I won't argue for the necessity of a foolproof plan in a fallible world.
I'd have settled for, you know, any plan at all.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2010, 01:47:38 AM
Quote from: Nigel on June 16, 2010, 01:45:25 AM
Of course, the impossibility to really developing a failsafe plan was one of the main arguments against allowing offshore drilling in the first place. But we don't want to talk about that.
I won't argue for the necessity of a foolproof plan in a fallible world.
I'd have settled for, you know, any plan at all.
A failsafe plan isn't necessarily "foolproof". It's just a plan to minimize damage in the event of a failure.
Quote from: Nigel on June 16, 2010, 01:56:58 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2010, 01:47:38 AM
Quote from: Nigel on June 16, 2010, 01:45:25 AM
Of course, the impossibility to really developing a failsafe plan was one of the main arguments against allowing offshore drilling in the first place. But we don't want to talk about that.
I won't argue for the necessity of a foolproof plan in a fallible world.
I'd have settled for, you know, any plan at all.
A failsafe plan isn't necessarily "foolproof". It's just a plan to minimize damage in the event of a failure.
Sure.
Like, as one example
actually wiring up the buttons for the rotary valves. Or maybe testing your blowout preventer, or something like that.
But fuck it, go for broke. What could go wrong?
Yes.
ANY PLAN AT ALL would have been better than what they did.
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on June 16, 2010, 04:11:45 AM
Yes.
ANY PLAN AT ALL would have been better than what they did.
See that horrible toxic soup a few miles away?
That's God, punishing Florida for being full of decrepit conservatives.
I can't wait to see what he does to Arizona.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2010, 04:14:17 AM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on June 16, 2010, 04:11:45 AM
Yes.
ANY PLAN AT ALL would have been better than what they did.
See that horrible toxic soup a few miles away?
That's God, punishing Florida for being full of decrepit conservatives.
I can't wait to see what he does to Arizona.
Even more oil, if what the main park here in Salt Lake now looks like is any indication.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 16, 2010, 04:35:12 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2010, 04:14:17 AM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on June 16, 2010, 04:11:45 AM
Yes.
ANY PLAN AT ALL would have been better than what they did.
See that horrible toxic soup a few miles away?
That's God, punishing Florida for being full of decrepit conservatives.
I can't wait to see what he does to Arizona.
Even more oil, if what the main park here in Salt Lake now looks like is any indication.
God's just waiting for us to make Sheriff Joe our governor (it's gonna happen, folks), then he's going to flush us all down the Grand Canyon, directly to hell.
I've got this murderous rage rising.
So did anyone catch the coverage of the hearing in Congress yesterday. Especially the part where Ed Markey displayed the covers of all the oil companies' spill response plans, and they all had THE SAME PICTURE on the cover. They each just changed the colors and put their logo on top. They all had the walrus nonsense. They all featured contact information for an expert who has been dead since 2005.
But, at least the one guy from Exxon was pretty candid, and honestly said that despite their best efforts, any accident will have negative impacts on the environment. He pretty much admitted that this type of oil drilling has inherent, unavoidable risks given current technology.
So, I guess we just have to live with this game of Fossil Fuel Roulette out in the oceans. Go Energy Go!
Quote from: RWHN on June 16, 2010, 01:32:57 PM
So did anyone catch the coverage of the hearing in Congress yesterday. Especially the part where Ed Markey displayed the covers of all the oil companies' spill response plans, and they all had THE SAME PICTURE on the cover. They each just changed the colors and put their logo on top. They all had the walrus nonsense. They all featured contact information for an expert who has been dead since 2005.
But, at least the one guy from Exxon was pretty candid, and honestly said that despite their best efforts, any accident will have negative impacts on the environment. He pretty much admitted that this type of oil drilling has inherent, unavoidable risks given current technology.
So, I guess we just have to live with this game of Fossil Fuel Roulette out in the oceans. Go Energy Go!
Bullshit. Hang 'em.
Quote from: RWHN on June 16, 2010, 01:32:57 PMBut, at least the one guy from Exxon was pretty candid, and honestly said that despite their best efforts, any accident will have negative impacts on the environment. He pretty much admitted that this type of oil drilling has inherent, unavoidable risks given current technology.
they've got a lot of experience apologizing to the public for environmental disasters. :lol:
can you feel the HORRORMIRTH?
On a lighter note,
from now on, all post-apocalypse sci fi will feature an ocean of oil and toxic waste populated by awesome black sludge monsters.
(http://www.veracruzanos.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/animal-contaminado-petroleo.jpg)
Our world looks more and more like a franzetta painting every day
I've never mentioned how much I like pelicans.
Cause they remind me of dinosaurs.
Now they're covered in what's left of dinosaurs.
::head explode::
It wouldn't surprise me, if after this debacle has run it's course, all the Nations of the World, as one, decide that Oil drilling, and reliance on fossil fuels is just too problematic, and dirty.
Then return to Whaling.
Just you wait till the hurricanes hit this summer and fall! :lulz: :horrormirth: :horrormirth:
Quote from: BadBeast on June 16, 2010, 04:36:40 PM
It wouldn't surprise me, if after this debacle has run it's course, all the Nations of the World, as one, decide that Oil drilling, and reliance on fossil fuels is just too problematic, and dirty.
Then return to Whaling.
Is that what Japan is up to?
But no, sadly, this will not change a thing. And if you need no other indicator, it was Obama's weak address to the nation last night. Yeah, he talked generally about the need to get over our addiction to fossil fuel, but there was no fire there. No passion. He totally let the Senate off the hook for stalling the energy bill. What was/is required is a Kennedy-esque challenge to actually develop the next generation of energy resources.
Nope, if he actually advances any new initiatives, he'll end up watering them down again like he did health care, because for as much game as he likes to talk, he's afraid of the GOP. He's had two years to steamroll over them with big majorities. He still thinks he can work with them. It's incidents like these that demonstrate that sometimes you need to throw out domestic diplomacy, double down, and just do it.
a friend in long island says that BP reps are handing out fliers about what they're doing, and what they'll do if/when the oil spill reaches this far north
Quote from: Kai on June 16, 2010, 05:35:21 PM
Just you wait till the hurricanes hit this summer and fall! :lulz: :horrormirth: :horrormirth:
Fun times for all
Quote from: RWHN on June 16, 2010, 06:02:28 PM
But no, sadly, this will not change a thing. And if you need no other indicator, it was Obama's weak address to the nation last night. Yeah, he talked generally about the need to get over our addiction to fossil fuel, but there was no fire there. No passion. He totally let the Senate off the hook for stalling the energy bill. What was/is required is a Kennedy-esque challenge to actually develop the next generation of energy resources.
Nope, if he actually advances any new initiatives, he'll end up watering them down again like he did health care, because for as much game as he likes to talk, he's afraid of the GOP. He's had two years to steamroll over them with big majorities. He still thinks he can work with them. It's incidents like these that demonstrate that sometimes you need to throw out domestic diplomacy, double down, and just do it.
Don't worry about it. The forthcoming oil-related world war will sort the whole thing out. Then, with a bit of luck, you'll only have to wait a couple of thousand years for the dust to settle before you find out if we've left enough of the planet to ever be habitable again :horrormirth:
Can't we, you know, ship 11/12ths of the humans off this planet to the Moon or Mars? I've heard there's plenty of water.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 16, 2010, 06:03:25 PM
a friend in long island says that BP reps are handing out fliers about what they're doing, and what they'll do if/when the oil spill reaches this far north
Handing out BP fliers?
... are you thinking what I'm thinking?
Wanna see something fun?
Gulf Lawmakers to Obama: It's Time to Lift Ban on Offshore Drilling (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/15/gulf-lawmakers-demand-end-month-moratorium-deep-water-drilling/)QuoteGulf region lawmakers are demanding an end to the moratorium on offshore oil drilling imposed by the Obama administration, saying the cost to workers' livelihoods exceeds the risk of another spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
Louisiana Rep. Charlie Melancon joined several of the region's other congressional members on Tuesday to argue that a six-month moratorium would result in 20,000 lost jobs and the collapse of offshore drilling companies and suppliers, who contribute $6 billion a year to federal coffers.
Melancon, a Democrat, along with 19 other Gulf lawmakers, held a press conference Tuesday to demand an end to the moratorium and to advocate for "responsible offshore drilling and continued development of our natural resources." Other representatives present, included Ted Poe, R-Texas; Charles Boustany, R-La.; Robert Aderholt, R-Ala.; Joe Barton, R-Texas and Gregg Harper, R-Miss.
...
The U.S. government extended a moratorium on deep-water drilling in May by six months following the April 20 explosion at the Deepwater Horizon rig that killed 11 workers and unleashed millions of gallons of crude oil into the Gulf. BP currently has four other offshore oil drilling permits that were put on hold by Obama.
But the ban, while supported by the White House and other Democrats, has angered Gulf lawmakers who say it's crippling an already weakened economy in the region.
"Thousands of Louisianans are already out of work because of the devastating oil spill, but President Obama says he has a plan for all this job loss -- join the unemployment rolls, and collect a government check," Sen. David Vitter, R-La., wrote in an e-mail to his supporters on Tuesday.
"This is totally unacceptable. I will fight to keep every single Louisiana job Obama is putting in jeopardy as a result of this moratorium," Vitter said.
And in a letter to the Small Business Administration Tuesday, Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., cited the six-month moratorium as a factor in the Gulf region's economic struggle.
...
Public Polling Policy, a liberal-leaning polling agency, released a poll Tuesday that surveyed how unhappy Louisiana voters are with Obama's handling of the Gulf crisis.
Fifty percent of voters in the state -- including 31 percent of Democrats -- said former President George W. Bush handled Hurricane Katrina better than Obama's response to the oil spill crisis.
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 16, 2010, 06:42:14 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 16, 2010, 06:03:25 PM
a friend in long island says that BP reps are handing out fliers about what they're doing, and what they'll do if/when the oil spill reaches this far north
Handing out BP fliers?
... are you thinking what I'm thinking?
oh my goddess -- you're totally right!
I will get to work on this
Can someone please just walk up to Obama and tell him to please tell the Oil industry to stick it where the sun don't shine?
FUCK DEMOCRACY! FUCK HUMANS! FUCK THIS GODDAMN COUNTRY!
GET THESE FUCKING MONKEYS OFF MY PLANET.
Quote from: BadBeast on June 16, 2010, 04:36:40 PM
It wouldn't surprise me, if after this debacle has run it's course, all the Nations of the World, as one, decide that Oil drilling, and reliance on fossil fuels is just too problematic, and dirty.
Then return to Whaling.
MY CITY SHALL RISE AGAIN TRIUMPHANT!ETA Futurama:
(http://theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/f/f5/Whale_Oil.png/150px-Whale_Oil.png)