Commence the vuvuzela.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecast?id=264048&cc=5901&ver=us has a flash broadcast, with selected replays. Pretty cool.
Algeria's giving some serious pressure right now.
I hope Slovenia win.
Well, England's already up by one. But I hope so, too.
Goddamn offsides.
Yeah, I heard the cheer from two buildings away, where they have the game on.
Of course, I can settle for an Argentinian victory in the World Cup, but having England knocked out of the first round, with Slovenia and the USA going through would be like the icing on the cake.
When the US finally loses, I'll probably be rooting for Argentina too.
Not only because of my honeymoon, but also because they're hot.
Relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqv8UJc72SU
Not bad. IMO they're the best side in the game (Spain also ranked very high, but their loss against Switzerland was frankly embarrasing)....plus the English fans hate the Argentinians like poison, due to the Falklands War and Maradonna's "Hand of God". Since England think the World Cup is a birthright, and not something that is earned, watching them be humiliated and then beaten by their most hated enemies would be the best entertainment ever.
Heh. I love a good backstory.
So, halftime, 0-0. That went quickly.
Well, once again, there is some skepticism about whether the US was really offsides when they shot that disallowed goal. Can't catch a break.
Here goes the second half.
Quote from: LMNO on June 23, 2010, 03:36:16 PM
Goddamn offsides.
The point is to put the ball in the goal. That's makes about as much sense as "Right of way" in Olympic Fencing.
Ugh. We've been missing way too many easy shots. I'm just about to call it a day.
Holy. Shit.
90 minutes.
We literally score at the last minute. Fucking amazing.
i totally started crying when they scored :lulz:
also good thing i had a drum otherwise i might have beaten on the cat during that game ...
Hmm. Am I really high or do I have some sort of weird link to the future here? I'm watching the game "Live" right now. It's 78 minutes and neighter USE or ALG have scored.
I'm just waiting for this goal at 90 minutes...
But really, they're probably not really showing it live...
Quote from: Fredyjafjallajökull on June 23, 2010, 05:13:41 PM
i totally started crying when they scored :lulz:
also good thing i had a drum otherwise i might have beaten on the cat during that game ...
Am I right in thinking you're actually in South Africa right now?
But whoa. I mean, from elimination to winning the group in sixty seconds.
no i got back last friday. i was there for the usa-england game. i WISH i was still there woulda been awesommmmeeeeee
Fucking orbital mind control lasers.
works for olympics on me, and now i'm actually curious about soccer.
and i don't know shit about anything!
ok, so now we're waiting to see whether we play Ghana or Germany?
what time is that game?
and who is favored to win?
Depending on the final scores, Ghana/Germany/Serbia. Australia is out.
If you're playing Germany, your chances of victory are very slim. Yes the Germans messed up against Serbia, but I would certainly rank the Serbs above the USA, let alone Germany.
Yeah. It's a miracle we made out out of the group, TBH.
At halftime, it's 0-0, 0-0.
So what's with the USA and missing the damn goal?
Anyways, WOOT!
Quote from: Suu on June 23, 2010, 08:20:38 PM
So what's with the USA and missing the damn goal?
Anyways, WOOT!
If I understand the question, we had a goal that was dismissed because of a suspicious offsides call, but in the 91st minute, we nailed it. But you must have seen that, if you were working in the bar today.
I was.
I could have sworn we had more shots on goal. It just seemed like there were an awful lot of opportunities that failed. And that offsides call was BS. I think FIFA has it out for us. :argh!:
If I remember the stats, we had something like 22 shots, 10 on goal. It was getting pretty bad, like we couldn't finish it off.
And yeah, we're getting fucked on calls.
Algeria looked like shit in comparison, I mean, we dominated the FUCK out of that field and yet still with 10 shots on goal we just couldn't nail it. I nearly got heart failure when we got that one in stoppage.
Oh, and the England game was fucking boring in comparison.
Quote from: Suu on June 23, 2010, 08:33:13 PM
Algeria looked like shit in comparison, I mean, we dominated the FUCK out of that field and yet still with 10 shots on goal we just couldn't nail it. I nearly got heart failure when we got that one in stoppage.
Oh, and the England game was fucking boring in comparison.
Most of the comments I've seen are saying that it was one of the more exciting games that have happened so far.
It was amazing. Plus having a good crowd drinking at 10am helped.
Did you make good tips?
I made more money in 3 hours than I did all day Monday.
I guess for what it was, it was fine. Bar tabs, all low ones. :( I did NOT make 20%, but see where I mentioned I was assigned to the Brits.
Fuckin Britspags.
Incidentally, Germany just scored one.
Quote from: Suu on June 23, 2010, 08:45:36 PM
I made more money in 3 hours than I did all day Monday.
I guess for what it was, it was fine. Bar tabs, all low ones. :( I did NOT make 20%, but see where I mentioned I was assigned to the Brits.
Notoriously bad tippers
I got $10 on $70, and they said I was "phenomenal". :kingmeh:
Fortunately, the few American tabs I had made up for it a bit.
Man, Ghana didn't even attempt defense for that last goal. They must be getting tired.
Quote from: Suu on June 23, 2010, 08:27:36 PM
I was.
I could have sworn we had more shots on goal. It just seemed like there were an awful lot of opportunities that failed. And that offsides call was BS. I think FIFA has it out for us. :argh!:
Some of the refereeing during this world cup has been atrocious. Look at how Kaka got sent off during the Brazil-Ivory Coast game...or the earlier Brazilian goal which was made much easier by two handballs.
There was a fucking handball call against the US today, and he blatantly hit it with his chest and then a fucking Algerian touched it with his hands, but the call went against the US. :? Even the commentators were like WTF.
Slovakia seems to be beating Italy. This is an interesting World Cup.
*cries*
Ah, yes. I forgot your surname for a second.
I'm sure Dimo is devastated.
Heh. Go USA, and then when they fuck it up, go Argentina!
GO DUTCHSPAG ORANGEPANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 04:38:04 PM
Slovakia seems to be beating Italy. This is an interesting World Cup.
Italy will win via several auspicious falls and surprisingly painful shoves from the Slovakian team.
That tactic almost worked. Almost.
Italy's out, Paraguay and Slovakia advance.
Is the USA still in?
yes. play ghana next
Quote from: FredleySneijder on June 24, 2010, 06:49:17 PM
yes. play ghana next
Ah, okay. For some reason I thought they had been eliminated, and I was kind of wondering why the competition was still going on.
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 06:47:10 PM
That tactic almost worked. Almost.
Italy's out, Paraguay and Slovakia advance.
The Italian football team are a loss to overwrought drama productions the world over.
It's funny because it's true... there were some impressive Shatner-like performances on the pitch today.
This advert in the UK shown a few years ago is pretty much 100% accurate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl2F6P8bw9w
They are truly a loss to the acting profession.
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2010, 07:08:41 PM
This advert in the UK shown a few years ago is pretty much 100% accurate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl2F6P8bw9w
They are truly a loss to the acting profession.
:lulz: Perfect.
Something is rotten in Denmark.
That would be Japan kicking the vik out of them.
My Azzurri jersey is now hung up for another 4 years. :(
Portugal jersey for tomorrow!
Now if I can find a fucking USA jersey at prices that don't scream "CAPITALISM!" I'll be happy.
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2010, 07:02:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 06:47:10 PM
That tactic almost worked. Almost.
Italy's out, Paraguay and Slovakia advance.
The Italian football team are a loss to overwrought drama productions the world over.
http://aatrb.com/2010/06/ftw-a-little-politicalworld-cup-funny/
Italy are the Israel of world football - we all know what they're upto but you're not allowed to say anything & theres no chance of justice
:lulz:
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
It's funny because it's true... there were some impressive Shatner-like performances on the pitch today.
There was a great one in the Paraguay-NZ game the other day.
A Paraguayan player falling to the floor after a Kiwi gives him a friendly pat on the back.
This is the kind of thing that's always going to happen if you introduce idiotic rules like - not being allowed to hit each other - in your sport.
yay we won :D
second goal was a nice one.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on June 25, 2010, 04:25:36 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2010, 07:02:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 06:47:10 PM
That tactic almost worked. Almost.
Italy's out, Paraguay and Slovakia advance.
The Italian football team are a loss to overwrought drama productions the world over.
http://aatrb.com/2010/06/ftw-a-little-politicalworld-cup-funny/
Italy are the Israel of world football - we all know what they're upto but you're not allowed to say anything & theres no chance of justice
WTF?! Like Slovakia didn't play act EVAR?! Like feigning that injury in the last min of stoppage?! And Japan yesterday getting a free kick out of one? Right.
-Suu
No, not bitter.
Ohai Ronaldo.
Whoa. North Korea kind of sucks, huh? 2 goals in the first 20 minutes.
Yea. We don't even have that one on.
Brazil should win against Portugal, the way they are playing.
Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 03:22:58 PM
Whoa. North Korea kind of sucks, huh? 2 goals in the first 20 minutes.
Gonna be some new players after this game, I think.
And a growing stack of forwards' remains behind the chemical sheds.
Whoops. Ivory Coast just got another.
Defect now, kids. Save yourself the cost of a bullet.
Uncle Kim, he isn't going to be very happy.
So, a summation from the online commentators about the Brazil/Portugal game:
"If the muffin I had for breakfast had bran in it, I'd have more movement than the second half of this game."
What a boring game!
Wow, Spain is really spanking Chile.
It's on, bitches.
By the way, the iPhone app store has a vuvuzela app. I am now the most annoying person in the room.
Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2010, 07:26:24 PM
It's on, bitches.
By the way, the iPhone app store has a vuvuzela app. I am now the most annoying person in the room.
. . . so what changed??? . . . **ducks and covers*
Ugh. That was fast.
Damn. Ghana is GOOD. I am not confident.
If the USA wins this game I'll name my son Landon Donovan.
So, Extra time it is then. Its been a gripping match so far, hope it keeps up.
I'm kinda hoping for penalties.
Quote from: Captain Utopia on June 26, 2010, 09:40:39 PM
I'm kinda hoping for penalties.
You are an evil evil bunny CU. Penalties is just the worst ever way to go out of a competition. Its like Russian roulette except if you get shot you have to live with the memory forever.
And tough on the US to go out, they gave us an engrossing match this evening. Commiserations USA fans.
The USA is now a Ghana. :sad:
Oh well. Now I can go back to ignore soccer for another 4 years.
Quote from: MMIX on June 26, 2010, 11:04:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Utopia on June 26, 2010, 09:40:39 PM
I'm kinda hoping for penalties.
You are an evil evil bunny CU. Penalties is just the worst ever way to go out of a competition. Its like Russian roulette except if you get shot you have to live with the memory forever.
Penalties are really exciting.
I have an unpleasant suspicion that watching a public execution might be quite exciting too - you know, something quaint and old fashioned like a hanging, drawing and quartering or maybe a stoning. A stoning might be fun because thats like a really real spectator sport . . .
still not seeing the fun here
its like tossing a coin and then shooting the loser in the foot
Quote from: MMIX on June 27, 2010, 02:54:41 AM
its like tossing a coin and then shooting the loser in the foot
No. It's really nothing like that. But I guess I don't take the sport seriously enough to think that losing a game is comparable in scope to public execution.
Quote from: Captain Utopia on June 27, 2010, 03:03:47 AM
Quote from: MMIX on June 27, 2010, 02:54:41 AM
its like tossing a coin and then shooting the loser in the foot
No. It's really nothing like that. But I guess I don't take the sport seriously enough to think that losing a game is comparable in scope to public execution.
I get what you are saying and on one level I totally agree . . . but my point is about the underlying emotion that is inherent in these sorts of spectacles and yes I think you could argue for a valid link between a game of footie and a public execution on an emotional the level. Well actually apparently you couldn't but I'm pretty sure I could.
I admit it. I almost cried. :(
The USA OWNED that game, but again, couldn't score, and Ghana proved once again, it's not about dominance, but technique.
....:lmnuendo:
Germany are thrashing England 4-1.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That just saved me 76 minutes of watching it. Thanks, I think.
Watch the grand prix instead - Worth watching even just for Mark Webber's fucking epic 120mph backflip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqsli2QM8Po (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqsli2QM8Po)
apparently Ferarri are sulking and making allegations today was a fix. I only know this shit cos Payne tells me.
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 27, 2010, 05:57:28 PM
apparently Ferarri are sulking and making allegations today was a fix. I only know this shit cos Payne tells me.
Not Ferrari, Alonso - ever since Lewis taught him that he can't drive worth a fuck he's been developing his - moaning like a bitch - skills to see if he can pick up any points that way.
I almost poomped at Webber's backflip (which I still think is mostly his fault). And then I almost poomped with all the bad shit that happened to Ferrari during the race, especially the penultimate lap pass on Alonso by that fucking insane little Japanese guy, Kobayashi, who I love dearly. I was jumping up and down and cheering and everything, cause FUCK Ferrari.
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 27, 2010, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 27, 2010, 05:57:28 PM
apparently Ferarri are sulking and making allegations today was a fix. I only know this shit cos Payne tells me.
Not Ferrari, Alonso - ever since Lewis taught him that he can't drive worth a fuck he's been developing his - moaning like a bitch - skills to see if he can pick up any points that way.
No, no. Ferrari too. They label it a "scandal" on their site.
Kobayashi is turning out to be one non-shit-donating little japanese motherfucker. Be nice to see him in something he could do a bit more damage in.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on June 27, 2010, 06:07:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 27, 2010, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 27, 2010, 05:57:28 PM
apparently Ferarri are sulking and making allegations today was a fix. I only know this shit cos Payne tells me.
Not Ferrari, Alonso - ever since Lewis taught him that he can't drive worth a fuck he's been developing his - moaning like a bitch - skills to see if he can pick up any points that way.
No, no. Ferrari too. They label it a "scandal" on their site.
They're just backing up fuckhead cos if they don't he'll throw a hissy fit and walk out. For some inexplicable reason they think it's a good idea to have him in their team.
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 27, 2010, 06:11:26 PM
Kobayashi is turning out to be one non-shit-donating little japanese motherfucker. Be nice to see him in something he could do a bit more damage in.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on June 27, 2010, 06:07:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 27, 2010, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 27, 2010, 05:57:28 PM
apparently Ferarri are sulking and making allegations today was a fix. I only know this shit cos Payne tells me.
Not Ferrari, Alonso - ever since Lewis taught him that he can't drive worth a fuck he's been developing his - moaning like a bitch - skills to see if he can pick up any points that way.
No, no. Ferrari too. They label it a "scandal" on their site.
They're just backing up fuckhead cos if they don't he'll throw a hissy fit and walk out. For some inexplicable reason they think it's a good idea to have him in their team.
oh indeed. I reckon Ferrari would have been better served with keeping Raikonnen, myself. But I'm biased, cause I'm a big fan of his.
Anyone but Alonso, though. Look at what he did and what he tried to do to McLaren (as a whole team) in 2007.
DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES!
Quote from: Captain Utopia on June 27, 2010, 04:52:17 PM
That just saved me 76 minutes of watching it. Thanks, I think.
It's only a shame I couldn't be there in person to rub it in the face of all the England supporters here who told me things along the line of "it will be a tough fight, but Germany are going down." I said it'd be a thrashing from the start, and believe I am owed some drinks.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on June 27, 2010, 06:15:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 27, 2010, 06:11:26 PM
Kobayashi is turning out to be one non-shit-donating little japanese motherfucker. Be nice to see him in something he could do a bit more damage in.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on June 27, 2010, 06:07:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 27, 2010, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 27, 2010, 05:57:28 PM
apparently Ferarri are sulking and making allegations today was a fix. I only know this shit cos Payne tells me.
Not Ferrari, Alonso - ever since Lewis taught him that he can't drive worth a fuck he's been developing his - moaning like a bitch - skills to see if he can pick up any points that way.
No, no. Ferrari too. They label it a "scandal" on their site.
They're just backing up fuckhead cos if they don't he'll throw a hissy fit and walk out. For some inexplicable reason they think it's a good idea to have him in their team.
oh indeed. I reckon Ferrari would have been better served with keeping Raikonnen, myself. But I'm biased, cause I'm a big fan of his.
Anyone but Alonso, though. Look at what he did and what he tried to do to McLaren (as a whole team) in 2007.
Alonso's career in a nutshell..
01-04 typical noob shit. Showed some promise, fucked up a lot. Eventually proved himself worthy of being in the sport. Nothing more, nothing less - him and a whole bunch of other guys
05-06 - was given the fastest, most reliable car in the sport by a nautical mile and still almost managed to fuck it up on a couple of occasions
07 - Given that years fastest most reliable ride but, unfortunately found himself partnered with someone who could actually drive the fucking thing, spent the whole year bitching and whining and coming up with excuses as to why he was getting pwnt by a noob on a level playing field
end of 07 - sacked - for being a complete twat
08-09 - Minardi (who the fuck?) picked him up for next to nothing, figuring he had experience with the big boys and that might be good for the team
end of 09 - Minardi regretting the error of their ways let him go to Ferrari whom we can only assume have gone completely insane since Schumi, then Ross Brawn left.
end of 10 - prediction: If someone hasn't actually killed him by then he'll be too busy getting turned down for jobs as supermarket shelf stacker to worry too much about motorsport. Either that or Ferrari will announce they new 2011 package consisting of a horse drawn sled with secret go faster-hay and they'll sign him for 5 years as chief stable boy.
JUST CAUSE YOU HATE FOOTBALL DOESNT MEAN YOU GOTTA RUIN IT FOR OTHERS :argh!:
I'm running out of teams to even pretend to root for.
USA - Gone
Cote D'Ivoire - Gone
Socceroos - Gone
El Tri - Gone
I think I'm rooting for Japan, then, out of the teams that could actually win it, I'm rooting for Germany, mostly because they're not Brazil, Spain, Argentina, or the Netherlands.
But if I'm a betting man? Netherlands vs. Argentina in the finals, Argentina wins 3-2.
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 27, 2010, 05:44:19 PM
Watch the grand prix instead - Worth watching even just for Mark Webber's fucking epic 120mph backflip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqsli2QM8Po (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqsli2QM8Po)
Bonus: You can't hear any vuvuzelas over the engines.
Ok does anyone know when NL is going to play against Germany btw?
which is more important than the finals.
They'll meet in the finals (or 3rd place playoff) if they get through.
i am rooting for Japan atm.
Still hoping the Argies win. Absolute and complete pwnage of England fans cannot be denied.
TRUFACT: The Argentina team is the cutest. Do not test Mrs LMNO's expertise in this matter.
I'm inclined to agree that they are one of the cutest, but some of the Spanish boys are pretty adorable.
Netherlands VS Slovakia and Brazil VS Chile today.
First game should be slow, 2nd game I should get my Brazilian guys in, which means no tips. Not that it matters, because as long as I'm forced to pay back that walk-out, I'm screwed anyway.
... yeah my gf is planning to go shopping during the NL game, cause it'll be all nice and quiet in town :D
OH! and a nice classical vuvuzela youtube for you, also demonstrating Germans do in fact have a sense of humor [actually this kind of dead-beat, doing something very serious in a completely silly manner or vice versa, is a very typical example of German humour] -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkhJKAkau2A
I AM WEARING MY ORANGE. 000 PUT YOAR ORANGE ON :argh!:
This is only acceptable if Fred is wearing orange panties.
:lol: i actually am
i have an orange jersey, jacket, scarf, lei, and underwear :D
-Fred,
Goes all out, even when watching alone at home
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 28, 2010, 01:16:31 PM
actually this kind of dead-beat, doing something very serious in a completely silly manner or vice versa, is a very typical example of German humour -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkhJKAkau2A
Yeah, as fun as it is to poke the "humourless Germans", they're actually very dry and clever comedians, for the most part. If anything, they remind me of certain British acts and people.
WE ARE WINNING WHOOOOOOOOO
gf decided to not go shopping and watch anyhow.
which is good cause then I dont have to watch
FUCK YEAH WE SCORED AGAIN
WHOOOOOOOO
:banana: HOLLAND :banana: HOLLAND :banana:
:jihaad: :jihaad: :jihaad: <----- pretend is vuvuzela
HUH WHAT PENALTY KICK :?
AH WELL WE WON 2-1
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3706/dancingcarrot.gif) ORANGE (http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3706/dancingcarrot.gif) WINS (http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3706/dancingcarrot.gif) AGAIN (http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3706/dancingcarrot.gif)
Sneijder is pretty. Fred and I should do bad things to him.
Two Girls One Striker?
NO. I CLAIM THE ENTIRE TEAM AND IM NOT SHARING!!!! :argh!:
Next up is Brazil/Chile.
I'm thinking Brazil, no problem.
PLEASEPLEASEPLEASECHILE PULL AN UPSET :aww: :aww:
I want Brazil. So my hot guys keep coming in.
but if Brazil wins Netherlands will have to play them next :x
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 27, 2010, 07:04:44 PM
08-09 - Minardi (who the fuck?) picked him up for next to nothing, figuring he had experience with the big boys and that might be good for the team
end of 09 - Minardi regretting the error of their ways let him go to Ferrari whom we can only assume have gone completely insane since Schumi, then Ross Brawn left.
end of 10 - prediction: If someone hasn't actually killed him by then he'll be too busy getting turned down for jobs as supermarket shelf stacker to worry too much about motorsport. Either that or Ferrari will announce they new 2011 package consisting of a horse drawn sled with secret go faster-hay and they'll sign him for 5 years as chief stable boy.
Actually, it was Renault who took him up in '08 and '09, the team he won the championships for and with in '05 and '06. And they took him cause they were struggling and needed their "Talisman" back. He did some pretty outrageous things in that car (his first victory comes to mind), and then in '08 he picked up a win (actually two wins, but I will never count Singapore '08 as one for him with the blatant cheating that brought him it).
If Brazil wins i'll keep going for the Dutch.
At the half, it's 2-0 Brazil.
Shocking. Who is winning on the cards front?
Only one yellow, on Brazil. A player named Kaka (giggle).
Kaka AGAIN? Well, it was probably deserved...this time. Still, getting a yellow only two matches after your last red is not a good idea.
Apparently, it's been a pretty rough half. I haven't been able to see much footage.
And Vidal gets a yellow card for body checking Kaka into the turf.
Whoops, another Brazil goal.
NOOOOOOOOO NETHERLANDS HAS TO PLAY BRAZIL ON WEDNESDAY NOW :x :x :x
That's going to be a bitchin' match!
lol england lost
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8768122.stm
QuoteEngland has exited the football World Cup and once again failed to live up to expectations. But why do the English fool themselves, again and again, into believing they can win, and might they actually enjoy it?
According to Wikipedia, hysteria is "a state of mind of unmanageable fear or emotional excesses. The fear is often caused by multiple events in one's past that involved some sort of severe conflict."
Sound familiar?
After a humiliating 4-1 defeat to Germany, England has once again entered an unofficial period of national mourning. It's something the country goes through after every World Cup or European Championship exit - from euphoric anticipation to shock and despair in the space of 90 minutes.
So have the English become hysterical in their dealings with the national side?
Harry Eyres, writer of the Financial Times's Slow Lane column, believes the passion has taken on a desperate, obsessive quality: "Too much seems to hang on it. We appear needy as a nation. There's an extraordinarily neurotic fear and excessive expectation about watching England. I don't think we're in touch with reality."
The world is entranced by the beautiful game every four years. But not everyone seems to invest as much importance in their national side.
On holiday in Spain during the 2002 World Cup, Eyres remembers pulling into a bar in Andalucia to catch the end of the Spanish team's quarter final with South Korea.
The talented Spanish side went on to lose but there was no vitriol, Eyres recalls: "It was amazing how lightly they took it. This was a working class, blue collar bar. Can you imagine a pub full of builders in England when the team get knocked out - it would be a tragedy. My impression is that in Spain it just doesn't matter so much."
Writer Simon Kuper sees a similar imbalance of expectation when England is compared with France, where he lives. If the English did badly in this competition, the French - finalists in the last World Cup - did even worse, getting knocked out in the first round.
But in France, says Kuper, author of Why England Lose, no-one thought the home side would actually win.
What enraged the French public was not poor displays on the pitch but the mutinous behaviour of the team's arrogant stars.
"Unlike the English the French are able to switch off the team when they're angry with it. People are disgusted. But they don't go into the anguish of looking at the country as a whole. They just say the team are horrible people."
Not only do the English never learn. They appear to thrive on the masochism of outlandish hope followed by tragic defeat, he argues.
"I think people enjoy the ritual. Every four years it happens and takes you back to previous tournaments. It's a communal moment, people sharing the pain with each other at the bus stop. It's that thing about big World Cup games that end in tragedy - usually on penalties, ideally to Germany."
But that ritual comes at a price, says Kuper, who sees a crucial difference between the attitude of the English side and that of his native Holland.
Anger-land
"When a Dutch player scores he's happy but when an England player does it's all clenched jaw, relief and anger. It's very stressful for the England players. It's like with children at school, when they know the expectations are too high and they can't meet them."
But if England is deceiving itself about its ability, who or what is guilty of inflating expectations unrealistically high?
Britain's tabloid press frequently seem to overplay the side's ability. But that's no surprise, says Roy Greenslade, a professor of journalism and a former editor of the Daily Mirror. Playing on the hopes of fans, and reinforcing their disappointment, is all part of the never ending circulation battle.
"The biggest football fans are tabloid readers. And the popular papers both respond to and ramp up the public mood. And it is our national sport. You don't get this level of interest for cricket."
But there is something unique about Britain's newspaper industry, he says: "We are different in having a competitive national press. So the papers can galvanise a population across the whole country. They can't do that in France or Germany where much of the press is regional."
Back in 1966 when England won the World Cup and Greenslade was a young reporter for the now defunct Barking Advertiser there were only two national tabloids. Today the newspaper scene is almost unrecognisable by comparison.
Diagnosing defeat
"Make no mistake the papers set the agenda. And today we have feeding frenzies. Savage as it sounds the Madeleine McCann story sold papers and previously there was Princess Diana. The World Cup is another first class example of a feeding frenzy that electrifies the newspapers."
What this frenzy is really about is fear of national decline, says the writer and broadcaster Toby Young: "In a sense it's people's anxiety about Britain's waning influence on the international stage. It expresses itself in their anxiety about how England will fare in the World Cup."
And that's why beating Germany has become so important.
"The chant 'two world wars and one world cup!' rings increasingly hollow each time we're beaten by a German team. It's the ability of the German team to punch above its weight in football terms. And that seems to us to reflect their ability to punch above their weight economically."
There is a political angle to all this with theorists on opposite sides of the ideological debate diagnosing defeat in different ways. "If you're on the left it's the players who are overpaid and selfish exhibiting the spirit of materialism introduced by Thatcher," he says. "If you're on the right it's because of a lack of confidence and self belief."
The loss to Germany has prompted much soul searching. So would the English be better off hiding the their flags next time around?
Young thinks not - believing that win or (mostly likely) lose, it's all for the good.
"In this age, here's something that for once genuinely brings us together as a country. And the anxiety about national decline would be there whether it's expressed in this way or not. You can describe it as hysterical if you like but I'd say it's cathartic."
The healthy side
Psychologist Dr Sandy Wolfson agrees. She has studied the behaviour and emotional lives of football fans and argues the World Cup is good for the mind.
"The vast majority of fans get many psychological benefits. There's always going to be moments of depression and despondency when you lose. The key thing is its ability to get social interaction between people from all walks of life. You'll get a highly paid lawyer in the pub talking to a street cleaner. And football's a good way of getting people to think intellectually. You can also scream and shout in a socially acceptable way."
But aren't we all living in denial? "The optimism is healthy. And it's cyclical, you get the renewal of hope after defeat. I'm not denying your team lets you down and you're going to have a hard time. There will be a lot of people angry, upset and negative. But research shows that within a week you're thinking about the next event."
Surely there is one simple lesson we can learn from this predictable debacle. Whoever gets the poisoned chalice of being England manager in four years' time, could for once learn to manage expectations. When the inevitable question from the press pack arrives - "So can we win the World Cup this time?" the coach would reply: "Probably not. Let's see if we can get to the second round first shall we?"
Quote from: Cain on June 28, 2010, 08:22:24 PM
Kaka AGAIN? Well, it was probably deserved...this time. Still, getting a yellow only two matches after your last red is not a good idea.
You are now imagining a young father talking to his newborn son.
Paraguay/Japan, now.
...
...yeah, so, anyway... How about the 11 hour tennis game the other day at Wimbeldon?
Japan needs to keep this attack up, and realize that most of the Paraguayan defenders are taller than them.
Heading up to the bar today to pretend to be Portuguese. Should be a good time!
It's gone into overtime... and it's really, really dull.
I hope Japan wins.
Suu and Richter, check your emails.
LMNO, I need your gmail account, if that's where you want it sent. The evil bastards at comcast knocked our whole neighborhood out, so I need to send it from here.
Quote from: Suu on June 29, 2010, 05:42:02 PM
I hope Japan wins.
No such luck.
Dok, PM + text sent.
Quote from: LMNO on June 29, 2010, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: Suu on June 29, 2010, 05:42:02 PM
I hope Japan wins.
No such luck.
Dok, PM + text sent.
Text sent.
What's up with the American team?
Next game, Portugal and Spain then?
All our troops are in the middle east; we can't get to South Africa that quickly.
Quote from: LMNO on June 29, 2010, 06:17:01 PM
All our troops are in the middle east; we can't get to South Africa that quickly.
Well, yeah, but with America out, you'd think the organizers would just close up shop and go home, right?
Even more surprising, the games are still being shown on ESPN.
Quote from: LMNO on June 29, 2010, 06:21:40 PM
Even more surprising, the games are still being shown on ESPN.
Puzzling. It's like keeping the sound system on the day after a concert.
PORTUGAL BETTER DIE IN A FIRE :argh!: SPAGS
PORTUGAAAL!!!
CHOKE ON A COCK RONALDO :argh!:
Noo! I'm having his Portagee babehs!
Quote from: Suu on June 29, 2010, 08:04:02 PM
Noo! I'm having his Portagee babehs!
How can you have his babby when he can't even get it into the back of the net?
Quote from: LMNO on June 29, 2010, 08:05:52 PM
Quote from: Suu on June 29, 2010, 08:04:02 PM
Noo! I'm having his Portagee babehs!
How can you have his babby when he can't even get it into the back of the net?
Oh snap!
Neither can the Spanish.
No one expects the Spanish Premature Ejaculation!
That was bad. Even for you.
Quote from: RWHN on June 29, 2010, 08:31:12 PM
No one expects the Spanish Premature Ejaculation!
:spluff:
Tied at the half, no yellow cards?
Nope. No cards.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL :D :D :D :D :D
I was just about to post, "I'm only getting this through the ESPN gamecast, but does it seem like Spain is on a fairly furious attack right now?" but I guess the answer is, "Yes."
Noooooooooo!
Quote from: Suu on June 29, 2010, 08:34:21 PM
That was bad. Even for you.
Yeah. Yeah it was.
HAW HAW RED CARD
I'm just happy that the French are out.
:lulz:
Fuck. Well, go Dutchspags.
I know someone would put it up on youtube...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6jrOHRGuic
so Im assuming he was hit by a invisible North Korean missile... or a magical unicorn... or Roger's mind control rays
Is that the red card? INVISIBLE FLYING ELBOW.
Now to wait for friday. Grr.
I KNOW!
Two days off, and I get to sleep in on Thursday...whatever shall I do?!
That Portuguese red card was totally undeserved. I think FIFA are going to be raked over the coals about the refereeing in this World Cup, because this is getting stupid. Even Rugby uses technology to weed out cheats now.
Quote from: Cain on June 30, 2010, 05:40:19 AM
That Portuguese red card was totally undeserved. I think FIFA are going to be raked over the coals about the refereeing in this World Cup, because this is getting stupid. Even Rugby uses technology to weed out cheats now.
Hell, Major League Baseball, an organization that has elevated tradition to a religion, is starting to use instant replay on certain calls. FIFA really has no excuse left other than "we don't feel like it."
I understand the biggest argument is that they don't want to stop the flow of the game.
I say, if it's a shot in the net, it gets a quick booth review to confirm. Shouldn't take more than thirty seconds. Same with red cards (yellow cards can be dealt with after the match). There's so much grandstanding already that the spags on the pitch can go through their antics while the replay goes down. It doesn't have to be as exact as US football, it can be a "reasonable doubt" thing.
If this were done, the game wouldn't be stopped any longer than it already is through celebrations, arguments etc. Also, the more egregious goals (US, England, Mexico, Ireland [in the qualifiers], Agentina, et al) would have been gotten right.
Actually the biggest argument is that soccer should be subject to a unified set of controls which are the same for every match from the local Sunday League team to the World Cup Final. And the major proponent of this position is the man who has the biggest say in things is FIFA president Sepp Blatter. It does seem quite hopeful that he has actually apologised to the Mexican and English FA's over the obvious shortcomings of the current system. You really shouldn't have a situation where the biggest game in the world is decided through a bunch of authoritarian bungles. If the crowd can see that there has been a bad decision then something has to be done about it. Saying that it would slow play down is ridiculous when we all know that an officious ref can slow down play far more than an instant replay. I'd also extend it to sanctions on players who are demonstrated to have cheated even if you have to wait til after the event to review video evidence. I'm real old fashioned about not wanting to see cheats prosper - and unfortunately when you are a soccer fan you really can't avoid seeing people getting away with shit on camera that they are never held accountable for.
Oh, I forgot one more fix that might help -- More officials on the field. At least one more.
Quote from: Cain on June 30, 2010, 05:40:19 AM
That Portuguese red card was totally undeserved. I think FIFA are going to be raked over the coals about the refereeing in this World Cup, because this is getting stupid. Even Rugby uses technology to weed out cheats now.
Yeah, he didn't even come NEAR the guy. I was fuming.
In and among the weird porn and sickening accident photos, jj.am is posting some of the more egregious dives from the world cup... fun stuff.
Quote from: LMNO on June 30, 2010, 01:22:57 PM
I understand the biggest argument is that they don't want to stop the flow of the game.
I say, if it's a shot in the net, it gets a quick booth review to confirm. Shouldn't take more than thirty seconds. Same with red cards (yellow cards can be dealt with after the match). There's so much grandstanding already that the spags on the pitch can go through their antics while the replay goes down. It doesn't have to be as exact as US football, it can be a "reasonable doubt" thing.
Yes, but apparently if you hold that strictly to the rules, it's no longer a game
... or something. According to that German dude trying to explain why that one goal where the ball obviously bounced behind the line as seen on the goal-cam, the referee was totally in his right to invalidate it because in the heat of the game he really believed it was not a goal, and that's what matters.
because, apparently, referees are also playing a game ... :?
You know, arguing that the entire game of Futbol is a comprehensively Subjective sport is pretty bold.
I might just be convinced. It's meta, in its own way.
Well that's what the German dude said. I forgot who he is, might have been the coach or trainer or some other sort of important soccer person.
Are you sure it wasnt the Swiss guy, president of FIFA?
It was Günter Netzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Netzer).
ahh!
It sounds like the prevailing attitude is that the game should be like improvisational athletic art. That you should not go back and question the craft of what just happened. It happened the way it happened and just let it be. I think that is an okay idea until you are playing for titles and trophies where the idea is the best team wins.
And I remember the times before hockey had the goal cam and instant replay. The game and the action was just as fast-paced an exciting after that was introduced. I don't think it impacted the spirit of the game at all. I don't see why they can't do something similar for soccer. Same idea, just a bigger and less slippery playing surface.
Quote from: LMNO on June 30, 2010, 01:22:57 PM
I understand the biggest argument is that they don't want to stop the flow of the game.
It's a bad argument though, as in other sports it has not caused such problems.
Basically FIFA are lazy, rich and realize soccer fans really have nowhere else to turn for their fix, so it's their way or the highway.
Quote from: RWHN on June 30, 2010, 07:29:57 PM
It sounds like the prevailing attitude is that the game should be like improvisational athletic art. That you should not go back and question the craft of what just happened. It happened the way it happened and just let it be. I think that is an okay idea until you are playing for titles and trophies where the idea is the best team wins.
Yes, in that case you should not call them referees, but juries. Like in ice-skating.
000 PREPARE YOAR SACRIFICES TO THE ORANGE GODS
WE MUST BE READY FOR TOMORROW
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Just heard a third theory on NPR: FIFA likes pissing off country's fans, because that increases awareness and interest in the sport.
Maradona made two goals in 1986: one brilliant, one blatantly cheating. Guess which one people talk about more?
Quote from: FredleySneijder on July 01, 2010, 07:07:32 PM
000 PREPARE YOAR SACRIFICES TO THE ORANGE GODS
WE MUST BE READY FOR TOMORROW
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
Quote from: Triple Zero
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 01, 2010, 11:01:16 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 01, 2010, 11:01:39 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
Rah Ah Ah Ah?
Fuck when does this soccer match start?
They're sounding vuvuzelas and assorted other horns all over the neighbourhood.
Heh.
Horns are totally back this summer :D
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 02, 2010, 01:33:42 PM
Fuck when does this soccer match start?
They're sounding vuvuzelas and assorted other horns all over the neighbourhood.
Heh.
Horns are totally back this summer :D
10:00 EST USA, so in about an hour and a half.
It's the Dutchspags vs The Brazilians! NOT SPANISH! :argh!:
Quote from: Suu on July 02, 2010, 01:42:29 PM
It's the Dutchspags vs The Brazilians! NOT SPANISH! :argh!:
Whoopsie. Hold on.
There.
They might as well be Spanish.
We either win, and continue to go and kick Germany's ass, or we don't.
That's what soccer is about. NL kicking DE's ass.
And some other spags doing shit with a ball on a big field or something.
GOT MAH VUVUZELA READYYYYYY :fap: :fap: :fap:
We have commenced.
Incidentally, I'm seriously considering taking an early lunch and watching the second half in a bar.
Whoops. Brazil just scored.
WHAT
Yeah. In the 10th minute by Robinho.
FUCKIGNNGNAETKNJAEEBJKNRGJKNEFJKWN
AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH
SIRWUOWTOUITOIUWR I CANT FUNCTION
I AM PRETENDING MY DRUM IS ROBINHOS FACE
FUCK YOUUUUUUU BRAZILLLLLLLLLL
AND WTF DUTCH MIDFIELD COULD YOU TRY GOING DOWN THE FIELD ROBBEN CANT SCORE BY HIMSELF
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
DEGIPUFITUEIPRWGIJRJ;GRJ; :crankey: :crankey: :crankey: :crankey: :crankey: :crankey:
Ok, it's Halftime. I'm gonna go see this on TV. I'll be back.
I NEED BOOZE :x
DUTCHSPAG GOAL!
Heh. Off the head of a Brazilian, too.
FROM OUTSIDE TEH BOX TOOOOOOOO
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: FredleySneijder on July 02, 2010, 03:56:46 PM
I NEED BOOZE :x
I'm currently in a bar... Fuck it, it's Friday.
:glug, glug:
IM ABOUT TO SHIT MYSELF WITH JOY
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
ANOTHER DUTCHSPAG GOOOOOOOOOAL!
Did you see that corner kick bend? Brilliant.
[09:24] <@badge> BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
[09:24] <@badge> YEAH
[09:24] <@badge> YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH
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Come onnnnnn stop being retarded
There isn't much grace and beauty in this game. It's pretty brutal.
I NEED THIS TO BE OVER NOW BEFORE I HAVE A HEART ATTACK AND DIE
YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
OFUK- ORANGESPAGS WIN.
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Well done to the Netherlands. Must've been unusual for them, playing as the underdog. I had hoped they would win, and now Brazil is out of the world cup, the possibility of other teams achieving victory are significantly better.
Unfortunately, had one of the Brazilian boys here at work crying a little, but he's better now.
8 minutes in.
Quote from: LMNO on July 02, 2010, 07:42:28 PM
8 minutes in.
THAT'S 5 DECIMETERS FOR YOU METRIC SPAGS!
I'm leaving earlier. Enjoy the game for second place.
Quote from: LMNO on July 02, 2010, 07:54:24 PM
I'm leaving earlier. Enjoy the game for second place.
second place?
no it's uruguay vs ghana now, which is whoever of those wins, gets to play the netherlands next.
Quote from: Cain on July 02, 2010, 06:28:15 PMWell done to the Netherlands. Must've been unusual for them, playing as the underdog. I had hoped they would win, and now Brazil is out of the world cup, the possibility of other teams achieving victory are significantly better.
from what I heard NL was playing kind of "boring" before [even though they won], but this time we didn't.
... although I must admit I was asleep during most of the game :oops: it's soooo hot here (35 degrees Celsius, or 95 Farthingites)
oooohhhh for the love of GOD, my gf figured out she can watch the game on BOTH TV AND LAPTOP STREAM AT THE SAME TIME
ITS SO FUNNY LOOK THIS ONE HAS A DELAY
AND THEY FILTERED THE VUVUZELAS MORE ON THE OTHER ONE
OH LOL
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4628/trip150.gif)
In their previous games they didnt need to try very hard so they played alot of keep away and practised passing
this time they had to be more aggressive
CRAZY SHIT GOIN DOWN!!!!!
OH BOY LAST MINUTE HANDS BLOCK PENALTY MISS OMG
Germany is winning by double teaming Messi.
Ps- I'm drinking pint before noon. Yup, living the life.
Hells yes Germany never fails.
Also, does anyone know where I can find this streaming online?
Espn.go.com has a free flash based gamecast, but you'll have to pay for a live stream.
3-0. Fuuuuuuuck.
On the other hand, wow. They are a great team.
Regarding the current title of this thread: I'd like to point out that most of the Nazis, after the fall of Germany at the end of WW2, emigrated to Argentina.
Also, Go Uruguay. I'm glad they won a game because of blatant cheating because I want Ghana to feel as much pain and indignation as possible.
Anyone left who doesn't think that Germany is going to win this thing, and (assuming the relevant players stay healthy) probably at least one of the 2014 and 2018 cups as well? That team is poised for a long run of dominance.
Quote from: LMNO on July 03, 2010, 04:29:49 PM
Espn.go.com has a free flash based gamecast, but you'll have to pay for a live stream.
Yeah but it's on ABC. I found a shitty bootleg stream that's about as big as a postage stamp.
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on July 03, 2010, 04:40:48 PM
Regarding the current title of this thread: I'd like to point out that most of the Nazis, after the fall of Germany at the end of WW2, emigrated to Argentina.
Also, Go Uruguay. I'm glad they won a game because of blatant cheating because I want Ghana to feel as much pain and indignation as possible.
Anyone left who doesn't think that Germany is going to win this thing, and (assuming the relevant players stay healthy) probably at least one of the 2014 and 2018 cups as well? That team is poised for a long run of dominance.
I dunno, the dutch have been doing really well this year as well. I think it's going to boil down to those two.
Also, Germanys best player can't play the next game because of yellow cards.
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on July 03, 2010, 04:40:48 PM
Also, Go Uruguay. I'm glad they won a game because of blatant cheating because I want Ghana to feel as much pain and indignation as possible.
Why?
Quote
Anyone left who doesn't think that Germany is going to win this thing, and (assuming the relevant players stay healthy) probably at least one of the 2014 and 2018 cups as well? That team is poised for a long run of dominance.
Well yeah, the Netherlands is going to win, duh. I've been hoping for Germany to win just so we can crush them in the finals :evil:
Weltburger.
england fans are probably hoping the dutch win as well.
Lets face it.. with our world cup history the germans will not be popular, at least they kicked Maradonna's team in the ass.
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 03, 2010, 05:09:37 PM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on July 03, 2010, 04:40:48 PM
Also, Go Uruguay. I'm glad they won a game because of blatant cheating because I want Ghana to feel as much pain and indignation as possible.
Why?
Because Ghana beat the US. But TBH Ghana earned that win fair and square, US team let every single one of their opponents score on them in the first 20 minutes and just generally sucked in that game. Miracles can only save so much bad playing.
Huh. Paraguay is stepping up and showing some balls.
And as I was writing this, Spain scores.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 03, 2010, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 03, 2010, 05:09:37 PM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on July 03, 2010, 04:40:48 PM
Also, Go Uruguay. I'm glad they won a game because of blatant cheating because I want Ghana to feel as much pain and indignation as possible.
Why?
Because Ghana beat the US. But TBH Ghana earned that win fair and square, US team let every single one of their opponents score on them in the first 20 minutes and just generally sucked in that game. Miracles can only save so much bad playing.
Yeah, but their play-acting put the Italians to shame.
anywho.
NEDERLAND!
DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES!!!
-Suu
Has to catch up after no comp for 48 hours of working.
Oh, and today, my coworkers and I came up with the most politically incorrect band name ever in honor of the Germany/Argentina match..
Gerry and the Genetic Experiments.
:rimshot:
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 03, 2010, 04:51:11 PM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on July 03, 2010, 04:40:48 PM
Regarding the current title of this thread: I'd like to point out that most of the Nazis, after the fall of Germany at the end of WW2, emigrated to Argentina.
Also, Go Uruguay. I'm glad they won a game because of blatant cheating because I want Ghana to feel as much pain and indignation as possible.
Anyone left who doesn't think that Germany is going to win this thing, and (assuming the relevant players stay healthy) probably at least one of the 2014 and 2018 cups as well? That team is poised for a long run of dominance.
I dunno, the dutch have been doing really well this year as well. I think it's going to boil down to those two.
Dutch, Germans....same thing.
Quote from: Suu on July 04, 2010, 03:52:15 AM
Oh, and today, my coworkers and I came up with the most politically incorrect band name ever in honor of the Germany/Argentina match..
Gerry and the Genetic Experiments.
:rimshot:
The most politically incorrect band name ever is "Pigger Nussy".
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on July 04, 2010, 06:42:16 PM
Quote from: Suu on July 04, 2010, 03:52:15 AM
Oh, and today, my coworkers and I came up with the most politically incorrect band name ever in honor of the Germany/Argentina match..
Gerry and the Genetic Experiments.
:rimshot:
The most politically incorrect band name ever is "Pigger Nussy".
Oooh...Good one.
Here we go...
In related news: The (German) psychic octopus predicts Spain will beat Germany tomorrow.
http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/07/and-the-prediction-is-in-paul-the-psychic-octopus-chooses.html.php
I'm thinking calamari is going to be the blue-plate special tomorrow somewhere in Germany.
FRED HAS TEAM SPIRIT
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/holy_garber/Photo20.jpg)
not pictured: orange knee socks, vuvuzela and nederland sweatshirt tied around waist
BRZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
also, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL :D :D :D :D
YEAHYEAHYEAH!
Beautiful kick, too.
my folks just got back from Germany, and brought me a vuvuzela...
too late for the twilight premier, though... :cry:
I need to get one or seven of those things.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :cry: :cry: :cry:
Whoops. Uruguay scores.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: FredleySneijder on July 06, 2010, 07:47:48 PM
FRED HAS TEAM SPIRIT
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/holy_garber/Photo20.jpg)
not pictured: orange knee socks, vuvuzela and nederland sweatshirt tied around waist
BRZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
also, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL :D :D :D :D
FUCK YEAHWHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
:D :D :D :D
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now tomorrow, Germany shall beat Spain, so that we can kick their asses on Sunday. ITS ON
(... for anyone wondering, my gf is half german half dutch, so ... That'll make things interesting :evil:)
YOU WILL PWN HER 000!
my moms family is from spain and my dads family is german. I WANT THEM TO FIGHT.
I shat bricks today in stoppage. That is all.
The teams are on the pitch. Here we go...
Watching this via Swiss internet TV. http://www.tsr.ch/video/sport/football/#id=2240113
Germany seems to have the most possession so far, which is usually a good indicator of who will win. We shall see though
Seems like Spain is taking more shots on goal, though.
Oh? I'm kinda trolling TCC at the same time, so I'm missing these things. Just saw Germany screw up the corner, though.
Yeah, but the general view is that Germany is just letting Spain tire themselves out.
So it's 0-0 at halftime, and I have to go get my teeth cleaned. Bummer.
Just have the Dental assistant hold your fancy-pants cellphone nearby checking for updates.
Quote from: LMNO on July 07, 2010, 08:18:16 PM
So it's 0-0 at halftime, and I have to go get my teeth cleaned. Bummer.
(For you English types, "getting your teeth cleaned" is an American ritual that is rather difficult to explain to outsiders.)
Well, I called that one wrong.
Spain faces the Netherlands in the final. THIRTY YEARS WAR GRUDGE MATCH.
Holy shit! I missed it all. How did Spain do it?
Carlos Puyol in the 73rd minute. Spain had a corner and he headed it in.
:crankey:
The octopus was right. Don't doubt the cephalapods!
It was not a very interesting game, even though I missed most of it, cause I was preparing CURRY WURST (which was AWESOME)
but no matter the superiod German vibe of CURRY WURST, they lost :(
my gf is sad. also because I forgot to buy any vegetarian sausage, I just got bratwurst. But veggie sausage is some of the foulest meat imitations I know (I'd prefer raw tofu).
I told her, you still have a team left! Count yourself lucky!
It didn't work.
Fuck spain.
Currywurst is indeed rather awesome, and I'm surprised it's not more popular in other countries. I mean, the UK loves curry and America loves sausages, you think at least those two places would be all over something that delicious.
Yeah, I made my own curry sauce, even. Cause I don't really like the bottled one.
It was ketchup, white wine, yellow curry powder, black pepper, tsp mustard, bit of olive oil and worcestershiresauce.
Also a tiny clove of garlic, chopped, but in hindsight that didnt belong there. Some very finely chopped onion (or pureed) would have worked better.
Then when you pour it over the sliced sausage, a little sprinking of curry powder to finish it off.
At least that's the way I made it because that's the way I got it when I ordered it in Germany.
The garlic probably would've worked, if the worcestershire sauce wasn't present. I'm guessing anyway, since I always use garlic for my curries, but never the sauce.
You may be right. It was between tastings I added both, and then it tasted like something very familiar. Like how everybody has this spice/flavour mix that's usually in their dishes. With me garlic is a big part of that. But this time I was trying to make currysauce, not some generic awesome taste explosion.
Mmm, currywurst. I ate it almost daily on my trip to Germany and it still haunts my dreams.
You Eurospags are fuckin' weird.
Here we go.
FUCK YOU, PSYCHIC OCTOPUS!
OCTOPUS IS GERMAN AND CANT BE TRUSTED IN MATTERS OF DUTCHNESS
GLORIOUS DUTCH.
Boy those Spanish boys look shaken up.
And I found a great stream...and then my ISP caught up with me. Four times.
FUCK YOU, COX COMMUNICATIONS.
GOT ONE. *keeps fingers crossed*
Fucking pirated streaming, how does it work?
Also, boooooo, card-happy refs.
No shit.
I want to see how bad the refs are going to favor the Spanish, so my Vegas theory is correct.
Que esta Vegas Theory?
DUDE. De Jong just SIDEKICKED Alonzo. DUDE!
Vegas Theory: Vegas is controlling the FIFA refs to allow for teams to win when they don't deserve it, hence so many bad calls. Someone important with a lot of money has a bet on Spain.
They've caught them doing this in American football and baseball before, why NOT association football?
Fuck, that's gonna leave a mark. We're gonna need a gif of that cleat to the chest.
Argh.
Dirty game is dirty.
The best part about finding a foreign stream is the commercials. I have Spanish commercials and they just sold me on a trip to Andalusia and attending the University of Madrid.
Andalusia is pretty awesome. If it wasn't Dutchspagland, I'd be rooting for Spain.
And if anyone ever wanted to know, they do have Midas in Spain too, and their commercials are better than ours.
Oh, and all members of the national team are getting brand new Chevrolets if I heard that last one correctly....and then I think I may have lost my stream. :(
yeah on a normal day spain is my 4th fav team and my family is spanish and all but today.... FUCK YOU SPAIN YOU DISGUSTING SPAGS MAKE ME VOMIT DIE IN A FIIIIRE :argh!:
Oh shit, it's back, and they had a Burger King commercial, and instead of stupid Eclipse stuff, they're giving away cool soccer team stuff instead!!!
WHO IS WINNING? :O
I'm very vocally supporting Holland, if only because many obnoxious kids here are Spanish (as is one of the members of staff - he's pretty cool, but a huge footy fan, so winding him up is mandatory. He's going to be wound up even further over the next few weeks as his sister comes to work with us and our almost entirely male team).
Your Vegas Theory might be right, if that last yellow was anything, but you have to admit the Dutch aren't playing that well.
Freeky: no one.
Holland have warmed up as the game has gone along. They've also collected an impressive number of yellow cards, so make of that what you will. At the start though, the Spanish were doing their usual trick of short, sharp passes, allowing them to keep possesion and deny the Dutch any chances of even mounting an attack on goal. As the game has progressed, this has been broken up, partly due to bad Spanish and Dutch play.
Both teams are playing like hell.
They're both being malicious, but the Dutch are totally targeted by the refs.
However, that WAS just a hell of a save.
OH FUCK YOU, REFEREE.
This ref truly sucks. A World Cup match's stories should be about the play, not the ref.
Ofuk. Octopi calls it.
WTF.
i hate the world :sad:
Quote from: FredleySneijder on July 11, 2010, 08:26:39 PM
yeah on a normal day spain is my 4th fav team and my family is spanish and all but today.... FUCK YOU SPAIN YOU DISGUSTING SPAGS MAKE ME VOMIT DIE IN A FIIIIRE :argh!:
you need to read Bill Simmons' column on sports bigamy (http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/020227). You aren't allowed to have a 4th favorite team, or even a 3rd.
how come I have this perception that Fred has a huge ranking system for every sport that includes every team within that sport and a huge list on her wall?
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on July 12, 2010, 03:33:25 AM
Quote from: FredleySneijder on July 11, 2010, 08:26:39 PM
yeah on a normal day spain is my 4th fav team and my family is spanish and all but today.... FUCK YOU SPAIN YOU DISGUSTING SPAGS MAKE ME VOMIT DIE IN A FIIIIRE :argh!:
you need to read Bill Simmons' column on sports bigamy (http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/020227). You aren't allowed to have a 4th favorite team, or even a 3rd.
WELL I DO SO THERE. and then theres a bunch of people i dont care about and then there are my four least fav teams :D PORTUGAL BRAZIL FRANCE ITALY :argh!: :argh!: :argh!: SPAGS
OK ILL PUT IT THIS WAY
I HHAVE A FAV TEAM AND THEN EVERYONE ELSE IS RANKED FROM LEAST HATED TO MOST HATED :D
Quote from: FredleySneijder on July 12, 2010, 05:33:08 AM
OK ILL PUT IT THIS WAY
I HHAVE A FAV TEAM AND THEN EVERYONE ELSE IS RANKED FROM LEAST HATED TO MOST HATED :D
like I said
I was cheering for the vuvuzuelas.
I nearly made a kid eat a vuvuzuela yesterday. Sad thing is, his parents probably would've given me a bonus for doing it, but it's "child cruelty" or some such bullshit.
Poor Dutch :( They didn't make the Eurovision finals, either :horrormirth:
I never really cared for soccer in the first place and it's just a stupid game, after all.
what are you looking at me?
:argh!: :argh!: :argh!: dont make me come hurt you!!!
So does this mean you're going to be following Inter Milan when Serie A and Champions start up again now, Fredley? :mrgreen:
:vom: :vom: :vom: :vom: :vom: :vom:
i actually like Barcelona :lol: which contains many spags who just defeated the dutch :sad:
But Sneijder is on Inter!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Barcelona is awesome though, dunno who I want to go for in Champions this year yet. Premier is starting back up in a couple of weeks though.
I DONT CARE IF SNEIJDER IS ON IT I DONT CHEER FOR ANYTHING IN ITALY....EXCEPT FOOD! :argh!:
:sad:
No love.
None.
Quote from: FredleySneijder on July 13, 2010, 03:54:19 PM
:argh!: :argh!: :argh!: dont make me come hurt you!!!
hihihihi nah we made 2nd place, that's also pretty good, yeah?
and personally, in the long run, I'm a lot more disappointed by the fact we didn't get to battle Germany.
also, that before-last pass before Spain's goal was totally off-side.
I wanted to hear the Dutch chant for their bicycles!
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 13, 2010, 04:35:01 PM
Quote from: FredleySneijder on July 13, 2010, 03:54:19 PM
:argh!: :argh!: :argh!: dont make me come hurt you!!!
hihihihi nah we made 2nd place, that's also pretty good, yeah?
and personally, in the long run, I'm a lot more disappointed by the fact we didn't get to battle Germany.
also, that before-last pass before Spain's goal was totally off-side.
Yeah second is good :( BUT I WANTED TO WIN AND NOT TAKE MY JERSEY OFF FOR A MONTH AND GET STINKY :cry:
o well NEXT TIME :argh!: THAT CLAW HAND BALL STATUE WILL BE OURS...ER...THEIRS...YEAH
*starts saving for a brazil trip*
I don't even want to know how much it cost you to go to South Africa. :aaa:
i dont even really know my dad paid for everything :lulz:
if thats what he wants to spend is hard earned monies on IM NOT COMPLAINING! :D