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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: AFK on August 18, 2010, 05:36:52 PM

Title: What this world needs right now....
Post by: AFK on August 18, 2010, 05:36:52 PM
is Rock and Roll.  What happened to rock and roll?  When I was a young one, rock and roll was everything man.  It was part of our soul.  There was nothing better than driving down those long windy roads, with the windows down, and a good rock riff blasting on the radio. 

It was denim, it was dirty and gritty.  It was raw.  No auto-tune or corporate gloss to smooth out the edges.  It was brash and abrasive.  It let you know you were about to rock and it fucking saluted you.  You wanted it all and you wanted it now! 

Where did the rock go?  Did it retire?  Is it in some senior's home somewhere, breathing off of an oxygen tank and collecting Social Security?  Is it in some plastic surgeon's office getting Botox getting ready for a big comeback?  Did it move to Florida and become a born again Conservative? 

It's cliche and maybe it's because I'm getting old...but...today's music just ain't got the same soul.  I want that old tyme rock and roll. 
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Adios on August 18, 2010, 05:41:58 PM
I agree. I just don't like so much of the music today. When I hear an old rock song, I crank it. I sing along at the top of my lungs like a fool and love it.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2010, 05:44:45 PM
Rock n roll became a safe, shrink-wrapped CoN Product™, the same way country did.  We had Elvis and the Stones and Elton John (Back when he knew the score.), and that wasn't good enough.  Now we have Devo II and Taylor Swift, because we demanded it.

You won't be hearing another Let it Bleed any time soon.

The only actual rock that sneaks by has to do it by moving under the radar (Gaga, Pink, Against Me, etc), by pretending to be part of that package.  You can still SAY stuff, but you have to be a freak to do it.

James Brown and Elvis and Johnny Cash have all died, because they can't live on the air we breathe.  They needed cool, and we gave them Cool™.  

Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Payne on August 18, 2010, 05:48:01 PM
Rock'n'Roll died the moment Elvis saw whatever it was he saw.

It turned him into a bloated wreck who couldn't remember his lines, and who died the prophetic death of AmericaTM.

This is where the dream went to die.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2010, 05:48:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on August 18, 2010, 05:48:01 PM
Rock'n'Roll died the moment Elvis saw whatever it was he saw.

It turned him into a bloated wreck who couldn't remember his lines, and who died the prophetic death of AmericaTM.

This is where the dream went to die.

I disagree.  He wrote and performed his very best song, right before he died.

He was The King, right to the end.  He even died on the throne.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Payne on August 18, 2010, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2010, 05:48:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on August 18, 2010, 05:48:01 PM
Rock'n'Roll died the moment Elvis saw whatever it was he saw.

It turned him into a bloated wreck who couldn't remember his lines, and who died the prophetic death of AmericaTM.

This is where the dream went to die.

I disagree.  He wrote and performed his very best song, right before he died.

He was The King, right to the end.  He even died on the throne.

Yeah, he was still The King. And he was still writing some great shit.

But he was The King of a dead nation, and he knew it.

What is seen cannot be unseen, and whatever he saw hanunted him until his last gasping breath.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Adios on August 18, 2010, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2010, 05:48:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on August 18, 2010, 05:48:01 PM
Rock'n'Roll died the moment Elvis saw whatever it was he saw.

It turned him into a bloated wreck who couldn't remember his lines, and who died the prophetic death of AmericaTM.

This is where the dream went to die.

I disagree.  He wrote and performed his very best song, right before he died.

He was The King, right to the end.  He even died on the throne.

Amen.

Funny thing is, even today a bar can pack itself with a good Old time rock band. With kids. But, as Dok said, the Con™ is more concerned with things other than the actual music.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2010, 05:53:30 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on August 18, 2010, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2010, 05:48:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on August 18, 2010, 05:48:01 PM
Rock'n'Roll died the moment Elvis saw whatever it was he saw.

It turned him into a bloated wreck who couldn't remember his lines, and who died the prophetic death of AmericaTM.

This is where the dream went to die.

I disagree.  He wrote and performed his very best song, right before he died.

He was The King, right to the end.  He even died on the throne.

Yeah, he was still The King. And he was still writing some great shit.

But he was The King of a dead nation, and he knew it.

What is seen cannot be unseen, and whatever he saw hanunted him until his last gasping breath.

I was proud to wreck a Ducati with his last song in my head.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Adios on August 18, 2010, 05:54:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2010, 05:53:30 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on August 18, 2010, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2010, 05:48:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on August 18, 2010, 05:48:01 PM
Rock'n'Roll died the moment Elvis saw whatever it was he saw.

It turned him into a bloated wreck who couldn't remember his lines, and who died the prophetic death of AmericaTM.

This is where the dream went to die.

I disagree.  He wrote and performed his very best song, right before he died.

He was The King, right to the end.  He even died on the throne.

Yeah, he was still The King. And he was still writing some great shit.

But he was The King of a dead nation, and he knew it.

What is seen cannot be unseen, and whatever he saw hanunted him until his last gasping breath.

I was proud to wreck a Ducati with his last song in my head.

Damn fine bike.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: AFK on August 18, 2010, 06:00:12 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 18, 2010, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2010, 05:48:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on August 18, 2010, 05:48:01 PM
Rock'n'Roll died the moment Elvis saw whatever it was he saw.

It turned him into a bloated wreck who couldn't remember his lines, and who died the prophetic death of AmericaTM.

This is where the dream went to die.

I disagree.  He wrote and performed his very best song, right before he died.

He was The King, right to the end.  He even died on the throne.

Amen.

Funny thing is, even today a bar can pack itself with a good Old time rock band. With kids. But, as Dok said, the Con™ is more concerned with things other than the actual music.

That's a very good point and one I don't want to ignore.  Rock is still alive on a grassroots level.  And it is certainly still alive in the hearts of those of us who cut our teeth on the rock, the Real True Rocktm.  That isn't something you can take easily from a man (or woman). 

You just can't beat a good pounding 4/4 beat.  It's universal, or at least it should be. 
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Adios on August 18, 2010, 06:04:10 PM
I also miss John Lennon. Imagine is one of my favorite songs.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Iron Sulfide on August 18, 2010, 07:26:25 PM
Yes: We, the newish generation, Stole that song, too (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpqKA9_ddFk).
Title: Re:
Post by: Suu on August 18, 2010, 07:54:23 PM
Rock and roll is still here. You just have to find it.

Suu
-yes, I DID play Jackal "I'm a lumberjack, baby" on the air last night.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: LMNO on August 18, 2010, 08:11:49 PM
I have no shame. (http://www.reverbnation.com/thefrostheaves)
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2010, 08:12:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 18, 2010, 08:11:49 PM
I have no shame. (http://www.reverbnation.com/thefrostheaves)

For later.

Damn you, Websense.  Damn you.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Adios on August 18, 2010, 08:34:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 18, 2010, 08:11:49 PM
I have no shame. (http://www.reverbnation.com/thefrostheaves)

Yours?
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: LMNO on August 18, 2010, 08:36:16 PM
Yup.

I just realized that I need to put our newer tracks up.

www.myspace.com/thefrostheavesmusic

That's more current, but yeah... it's freakin myspace.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Adios on August 18, 2010, 08:37:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 18, 2010, 08:36:16 PM
Yup.

I just realized that I need to put our newer tracks up.

www.myspace.com/thefrostheavesmusic

That's more current, but yeah... it's freakin myspace.

Pretty good. Is the vocalist on Run different than on the other tracks?
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Cramulus on August 18, 2010, 08:44:50 PM
This is largely a product of the period in which I grew up

but I think rock music was best in the 90s during the grunge swing.

After "alternative" was consumed and re purposed by our capitalist handlers, we ended up with about 10 years of really awful music. But I do think it's pulling up out of the nose dive right now.


Here's some of the rock music that's wormed its way into my brain


Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros - Home - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjFaenf1T-Y

The White Stripes - Seven Nation Army - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j7huh5Egew - a few years old, but how can you not love this song? IMO these guys saved rock from limp bizkit and the like

Broken Bells - The High Road - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWBG1j_flrg&feature=av2n - is this rock? I dunno but I love it

Spoon - "Written in Reverse" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYWlg9iHHlY&feature=channel

I couldn't point you at any one song in particular, but I'm also really digging the Black Keys
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Payne on August 18, 2010, 08:45:18 PM
As an aside, did you ever catch that post on the Frost Heaves facebook page by that other dude who seemed to think he had first dibs on the Frost Heaves name?

I saw it, but didn't believe it. I didn't believe it, when I saw it...
                                                         \
(http://mimg.ugo.com/200809/22532/samuel-l-jackson-do-the-right-thing.jpg)

Thread Jack over, sorry RWHN. It was just bugging me.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Adios on August 18, 2010, 08:47:55 PM
I would like to see the band live.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: LMNO on August 18, 2010, 08:51:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on August 18, 2010, 08:45:18 PM
As an aside, did you ever catch that post on the Frost Heaves facebook page by that other dude who seemed to think he had first dibs on the Frost Heaves name?

I saw it, but didn't believe it. I didn't believe it, when I saw it...
                                                         \
(http://mimg.ugo.com/200809/22532/samuel-l-jackson-do-the-right-thing.jpg)

Thread Jack over, sorry RWHN. It was just bugging me.

I'll have to check that out.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Cramulus on August 18, 2010, 08:54:41 PM
oooh, almost forgot:

David Byrne and Fatboy Slim - Toe Jam - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHCkheMECeQ&has_verified=1 - this is the coolest video I've seen this year

Cage the Elephant - No Rest for the Wicked - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U631FGnXDXY&feature=av2e

Muse - Knights Of Cydonia - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sBOsh-vyI&feature=av2e
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: LMNO on August 18, 2010, 08:55:27 PM
Obligatory.

www.myspace.com/theparaplegics
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Freeky on August 18, 2010, 09:17:24 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 18, 2010, 08:54:41 PM
oooh, almost forgot:

David Byrne and Fatboy Slim - Toe Jam - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHCkheMECeQ&has_verified=1 - this is the coolest video I've seen this year

Cage the Elephant - No Rest for the Wicked - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U631FGnXDXY&feature=av2e

Muse - Knights Of Cydonia - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sBOsh-vyI&feature=av2e


Just about eveything by Muse is amazing, imo.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Juana on August 18, 2010, 09:23:42 PM
Muse sold out to SMeyers and the Twihards. Can't listen anymore, especially after I figured out which song inspired Edward.


I put forth: Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94c7fdAxTas
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Freeky on August 18, 2010, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on August 18, 2010, 09:23:42 PM
Muse sold out to SMeyers and the Twihards. Can't listen anymore, especially after I figured out which song inspired Edward.


I put forth: Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94c7fdAxTas

I read a thing where they only knew it was going to be a vampire movie, and then when they finally see it, they were like "WTF is this shit?"
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Juana on August 18, 2010, 09:48:42 PM
Still. Even if they were stupid enough to NOT LOOK UP WHAT THEY WERE SINGING FOR, that I can tell you which song Edward was inspired by, is enough.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Cramulus on August 18, 2010, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on August 18, 2010, 09:23:42 PM
Muse sold out to SMeyers and the Twihards. Can't listen anymore, especially after I figured out which song inspired Edward.


I put forth: Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94c7fdAxTas

so you don't like muse's music because stephanie myers likes muse's music? eh not the best reason to not like a band, but different strokes for different folks

it turns out muse isn't so crazy about twilight, btw (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1643615/20100714/muse_uk_.jhtml)
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Adios on August 19, 2010, 02:13:22 AM
Shit. I thought we were talking about Steppenwolf.
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: Juana on August 19, 2010, 03:48:34 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 18, 2010, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on August 18, 2010, 09:23:42 PM
Muse sold out to SMeyers and the Twihards. Can't listen anymore, especially after I figured out which song inspired Edward.


I put forth: Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94c7fdAxTas

so you don't like muse's music because stephanie myers likes muse's music? eh not the best reason to not like a band, but different strokes for different folks

it turns out muse isn't so crazy about twilight, btw (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1643615/20100714/muse_uk_.jhtml)
Her liking Muse doesn't really have anything to do with it. It has more to do with the fact that every time I listen to their stuff, Twilight flashes before my eyes. Like I said, I can tell you which song inspired Edward. That ruined it.

ETA: And thanks for the article. :)
Title: Re: What this world needs right now....
Post by: LMNO on August 19, 2010, 01:42:18 PM
I can't really listen to Muse simply because of the overused "really boost the gasp the singer makes as he struggles for breath in between the lines" schtick they do.