Man kills self, leaves 1900+ page suicide note
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/9/22/heisman-harvard-mother-death/
The note can be found here,
http://www.suicidenote.info/ebook/suicide_note.pdf
Ive got to say this is some of the best ranting Ive read in awhile.
QuoteThe document references Harvard and research done by Harvard faculty—such as Law School professor Alan M. Dershowitz, government professor Harvey C. Mansfield '53, and psychology professor Steven Pinker—more than half a dozen times.
While I have few arguments with Pinker, I can
fully understand contemplating suicide after grappling in any depth with the work of Dershowitz and Mansfield.
I don't even...I was going to upload this to my e-reader, but then I realized that it is still downloading to my computer, and that 2k pages is a lot, and I still have the death of Arthur to finish.
tl;dr
Quote from: Lysergic on September 26, 2010, 05:41:28 AM
tl;dr
If he didn't off himself at first, he would've done after reading that.
As an aside, "The Seditious Genius of the Spiritual Penis of Jesus", the title of one of the chapters, would make a great name for a band.
Claiming that his work "will be repressed" denounces megalomania - we can interpret that he was also depressed.
So at least those are two maesltroms of bias to take into account.
Also someone that leeched lived on his father's inheritance.
You could also add father's death as part of something significant that biases him.
This gonna be a good read. :lulz:
If I made that heinous table of contents, I would kill myself too.
I've enjoyed the first few dozen pages, though it needs more barstool.
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page 27
Could suicide represent the pinnacle of the rational life realized?
:lulz:
:emo:
Meh, Industrial Society and It's Future was better.
Not better written, mind you, just more interesting.
And shorter.
did he decide he had to write this and finish all 2000 pages of it before committing suicide, or did he maybe just start writing and kept it up until he finally dared/managed/succeeded/etc to actually do it?
Quote from: Lysergic on September 26, 2010, 05:41:28 AM
tl;dr
The short version:
Man kills himself when he discovers he is an overly verbose bore.
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on September 26, 2010, 06:18:48 AM
Claiming that his work "will be repressed" denounces megalomania - we can interpret that he was also depressed.
Just wanted to say, unless this has a precise psychological meaning I'm not aware of, you probably didn't mean to use that word.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=619&q=define%3A+denounce&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
"Suggests" or possibly at a stretch "announces" (as in "announces he has megalomania") are more likely to be the words you're looking for.
Not saying this to be a jerk, only because a native Spanish speaking friend of mine this summer basically forced me to find any and all inaccuracies in his speaking and I've now gotten into the habit. Which would be useful if I ever actually became an ESL teacher, I guess.
Denotes?
But yeah, I've actually read that part of Socrates recently. Although he does say that death and ultimate rationality are not dissimilar in the sense he thinks of it, in the same breath he argues against suicide.
According to google, the 4th and partially the 5th definition it gives is what i meant - and no, there is no psychological term "denounce" as far as i know.
Quote from: google define denounce
1. speak out against; "He denounced the Nazis"
2. stigmatize: to accuse or condemn or openly or formally or brand as disgraceful; "He denounced the government action"; "She was stigmatized by society because she had a child out of wedlock"
3. announce the termination of, as of treaties
4. give away information about somebody; "He told on his classmate who had cheated on the exam"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
5. To make known in a formal manner; to proclaim; to announce; to declare; To criticize or speak out against (someone or something); to point out as deserving of reprehension or punishment, etc. ...
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/denounce
Quote from: diccionario de la real lengua española
denunciar.
1. tr. Noticiar, avisar.
2. tr. pronosticar.
3. tr. Promulgar, publicar solemnemente.
4. tr. Participar o declarar oficialmente el estado ilegal, irregular o inconveniente de algo.
5. tr. delatar.
6. tr. Der. Dar a la autoridad judicial o administrativa parte o noticia de una actuación ilícita o de un suceso irregular.
7. tr. Der. Dicho de una de las partes: Notificar la rescisión de un contrato, la terminación de un tratado, etc.
8. tr. Ingen. Dicho de quien cree haber descubierto una mina, o de quien se propone beneficiar la que está caducada: Acudir a la autoridad competente para que se registre su nombre y denuncia, y quede asegurado con esto su derecho a obtener la concesión de aquella mina.
Now, going from back to front, by using "denunciar" in spanish and then thinking of "denounce", the synonim that most accurately expresses the meaning would be "delatar", which translated to english is "to betray", but "delatar" is at the same time to "tell on someone" and not necessarily how its translated as betraying, therefore:
Claiming that his work "will be repressed" "gives away"/"is symptomatic of"/"shows" megalomania. (which now retroactively rethinking about it, it could also be paranoid-schizoid traits, or very well could be egocentrism, but true egocentrists i think rarely could understand what is understood in a book that doesnt agree with is views....)
Only in this board is where i communicate in english. An infortunate implication of reading most articles in english in all of my browsing habits, is that when i speak in spanish i create neologisms, so not only is my english borked, so is my spanish.
Anyhow, i plan on reading this when i have the time, with a mild interest in his ideas and more of an interest as a case study of mental pathology.
ETA: yes, could be "denotes"
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 26, 2010, 01:07:03 PM
did he decide he had to write this and finish all 2000 pages of it before committing suicide, or did he maybe just start writing and kept it up until he finally dared/managed/succeeded/etc to actually do it?
Apparently he had written several of the sections of the book over a long period of time and at some point he decided to compile them all together into a suicide note.
Quote from: Lies on September 26, 2010, 05:41:28 AM
tl;dr
Given the context, I give this "post of 2010". :lulz:
Kids in the Hall did it 20 years ago.
Quote from: Hoopla on March 24, 2011, 03:42:25 AM
Kids in the Hall did it 20 years ago.
What, killed themselves after writing
War & Peace? :lulz:
QuoteIf my hypothesis is correct, this work will be repressed.
His work is not being repressed, so I guess that means his hypothesis is not correct. Does that mean he killed himself over something that isn't even true?
Quote from: Pastor Miskatonic Zappathruster on March 28, 2011, 04:15:29 PM
QuoteIf my hypothesis is correct, this work will be repressed.
His work is not being repressed, so I guess that means his hypothesis is not correct. Does that mean he killed himself over something that isn't even true?
Testing hypothesis is the work of SCIENCE after all, he truly was an scientist.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2011, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on March 24, 2011, 03:42:25 AM
Kids in the Hall did it 20 years ago.
What, killed themselves after writing War & Peace? :lulz:
They did a sketch about a guy who wrote a tome as a suicide note, but the death didn't take and all the friends have to awkwardly admit they didn't read the note. I guess it's not really all that similar now that I say it like this.
I kind of wish he didn't kill himself. It's the only way this book could be made any funnier.
Not even original when the Kids In Hall Did it.
Preface to a Twenty Volume Suicide Note, poems, 1961 by Leroi Jones (aka Amiri Baraka)
Quote from: Mangrove on March 29, 2011, 08:56:04 PM
Not even original when the Kids In Hall Did it.
Preface to a Twenty Volume Suicide Note, poems, 1961 by Leroi Jones (aka Amiri Baraka)
Trust a fucking poet to write a book for no money...
Quote from: Hoopla on March 30, 2011, 12:02:42 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on March 29, 2011, 08:56:04 PM
Not even original when the Kids In Hall Did it.
Preface to a Twenty Volume Suicide Note, poems, 1961 by Leroi Jones (aka Amiri Baraka)
Trust a fucking poet to write a book for no money...
:lulz:
I think it's in the job description.
Indeed, I have this one friend who is a poet. He has a side job as a meter reader.
Oh, for fuck's sake...
:argh!: :lulz: :argh!:
:thanks:
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 30, 2011, 05:42:56 PM
Indeed, I have this one friend who is a poet. He has a side job as a meter reader.
:golfclap:
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 30, 2011, 05:42:56 PM
Indeed, I have this one friend who is a poet. He has a side job as a meter reader.
:jawdrop:
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 30, 2011, 05:42:56 PM
Indeed, I have this one friend who is a poet. He has a side job as a meter reader.
Goddamn.
Flawless Victory!!!!
:hammer: