http://mexico.cnn.com/mundo/2010/10/01/eu-pide-perdon-a-guatemala-por-contagio-de-enfermedades-sexuales (http://mexico.cnn.com/mundo/2010/10/01/eu-pide-perdon-a-guatemala-por-contagio-de-enfermedades-sexuales)
Quote from: WASHINGTON (CNN) — Estados Unidos ofreció disculpas este viernes por un estudio de investigación realizado entre 1946 a 1948, en el que deliberadamente infectó de sífilis a varios guatemaltecos como parte de un experimento.
En una declaración emitida por las secretarias de Estado, Hillary Clinton, y Salud y Servicios Humanos, Kathleen Sebelius, dijeron que la acción ha sido "reprobable".
EU realizó la investigación con la intención de buscar vacunas contra enfermedades venéreas.
"Lamentamos profundamente que esto haya sucedido y pedimos perdón a todas las personas que se vieron afectados por esas prácticas abominables de investigación", expresa la declaración conjunta.
"El comportamiento exhibido durante el estudio no representa los valores de Estados Unidos o nuestro compromiso con la dignidad humana y un gran respeto por el pueblo de Guatemala".
Las autoridades guatemaltecas tienen conocimiento del informe, pero no harán comentarios al respecto hasta más tarde este viernes, señaló el vocero presidencial, Ronaldo Robles, a CNN.
La investigación fue titulada Estudio del Servicio de Salud Pública de EU sobre Inoculación de Enfermedades de Transmisión Sexual 1946-1948. Recibió el respaldo de la entonces Organización Panamericana de la Salud y del gobierno de Guatemala.
"El estudio es un triste recordatorio de que las garantías adecuadas para la investigación en seres humanos no existían hace medio siglo", menciona la declaración. "En la actualidad, los reglamentos que gobiernan la investigación médica en seres humanos financiada por Estados Unidos prohíben este tipo de violaciones atroces".
Clinton y Sebelius aseguran que Estados Unidos puso en marcha una investigación sobre los detalles de este caso de 1946. Y también convocaron a un grupo de expertos internacionales para examinar e informar sobre los métodos más eficaces para asegurarse de que todas las investigaciones con seres humanos en todo el mundo médico cumplen rigurosas normas éticas.
"A medida que avanzamos para comprender mejor este atroz suceso, reiteramos la importancia de nuestra relación con Guatemala y nuestro respeto por el pueblo guatemalteco, así como nuestro compromiso con las normas éticas más exigentes en la investigación médica", agregaron.
Detalles del experimento
El Servicio de Salud Pública de Estados Unidos en la administración de Harry S. Truman (1945-1953) lideró la investigación que tenía como objetivo ver el desarrollo de las enfermedades en periodos prolongados de tiempo, sin ofrecer tratamiento alguno a los infectados.
Las prácticas han salido a la luz gracias a un estudio de la investigadora de la Universidad de Wellesley, Susan Reverby, quien afirma que infectaron a 696 personas, muchas de ellas pacientes internados en instituciones para enfermos mentales.
De acuerdo con el estudio de Reverby, los experimentos trataban de determinar si la penicilina podía prevenir, y no sólo curar, una infección de sífilis.
Los sujetos fueron contagiados en visitas de prostitutas que tenían la enfermedad e inoculación directa, y a muchos de ellos se les alentó a que propagaran los padecimientos a otras personas, de acuerdo con la investigadora, que no pudo determinar si los pacientes fueron curados o tratados más adelante.
Nick Valenciana contribuyó con este despacho.
WASHINGTON (CNN) — USA offered apologies this friday for experiments made from 1946-48 in which subjects were deliberatly infected with syphilis...
An apology is all most people get when this happens.
GAWD BLESS AMURRICA :x :x :x
It makes me feel so patriotic.
Quote from: Sigmatic on October 02, 2010, 03:20:52 AM
An apology is all most people get when this happens.
fuck they're lucky they got that.
THE EWE ESS OF HEEEEEEEEY: IF WE COULD CHANGE THE SHAPE OF OUR CUNTRY INTO A MIDDLE FINGER, WE'D TOTALLY DOIT.
I know for a fact there's places here that hire for "lab rat" unregulated jobs.
So cry me a river of fucking crocodile tears, Hillary "Oh,so hillarious" Clinton.
Nobody gives a shit. It happened somewhere else to brown people. It could fucking happen tomorrow and nobody would fucking care.
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 02, 2010, 03:51:59 AM
Nobody gives a shit. It happened somewhere else to brown people. It could fucking happen tomorrow and nobody would fucking care.
this is troof.
sad troof, but troof none the less
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 02, 2010, 03:51:59 AM
Nobody gives a shit. It happened somewhere else to brownnon-American people. It could fucking happen tomorrow and nobody would fucking care.
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 03:52:51 AM
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
I guess it is true that people with "wolf" in their user-names or avatars are dicks.
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:01:05 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 03:52:51 AM
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
I guess it is true that people with "wolf" in their user-names or avatars are dicks.
Amoung other things.
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:01:05 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 03:52:51 AM
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
I guess it is true that people with "wolf" in their user-names or avatars are dicks.
What about other canines?
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 04:24:32 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:01:05 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 03:52:51 AM
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
I guess it is true that people with "wolf" in their user-names or avatars are dicks.
Amoung other things.
So do you really think the Secretary of State's job is to apologize for crackpot conspiracies that never took place?
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 02, 2010, 04:32:25 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:01:05 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 03:52:51 AM
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
I guess it is true that people with "wolf" in their user-names or avatars are dicks.
What about other canines?
Coyote's a dick too, although quite lovable.
I think he meant it as a joke...I hope so, anyway. People from Indiana, especially those near South Bend, should avoid humor.
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 02, 2010, 04:32:25 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:01:05 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 03:52:51 AM
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
I guess it is true that people with "wolf" in their user-names or avatars are dicks.
What about other canines?
As wolves are the (misconceived) archetype for independent predators which translates as "independent thinker" or "loner internet tough guy", no, only wolves.
Dogs are "man's best friend" while coyotes/dingos are more like scavengers. Although ive heard that if hungry coyotes in the woods find you, they will fuck you up good.
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:40:32 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 02, 2010, 04:32:25 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:01:05 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 03:52:51 AM
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
I guess it is true that people with "wolf" in their user-names or avatars are dicks.
What about other canines?
As wolves are the (misconceived) archetype for independent predators which translates as "independent thinker" or "loner internet tough guy", no, only wolves.
Dogs are "man's best friend" while coyotes/dingos are more like scavengers. Although ive heard that if hungry coyotes in the woods find you, they will fuck you up good.
Preliminary genetic evidence, however, has shown that "coyotes" in some areas are, genetically speaking, 85-90 percent Canis latrans, and from ten to fifteen percent Canis lupus (primarily wolf, along with some domestic dog DNA), prompting one researcher to jokingly suggest they be called "Canis soupus" as they are a "soup" (mixture) of canid species.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote#Name
Haven't you heard the story where Coyote kills Wolf's son?
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 04:48:25 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:40:32 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 02, 2010, 04:32:25 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:01:05 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 03:52:51 AM
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
I guess it is true that people with "wolf" in their user-names or avatars are dicks.
What about other canines?
As wolves are the (misconceived) archetype for independent predators which translates as "independent thinker" or "loner internet tough guy", no, only wolves.
Dogs are "man's best friend" while coyotes/dingos are more like scavengers. Although ive heard that if hungry coyotes in the woods find you, they will fuck you up good.
Preliminary genetic evidence, however, has shown that "coyotes" in some areas are, genetically speaking, 85-90 percent Canis latrans, and from ten to fifteen percent Canis lupus (primarily wolf, along with some domestic dog DNA), prompting one researcher to jokingly suggest they be called "Canis soupus" as they are a "soup" (mixture) of canid species.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote#Name
Haven't you heard the story where Coyote kills Wolf's son?
Wolf probably deserved it, and no.
Hey, silly wolf boy.
Check this guy out: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1741;sa=showPosts
It's only eight pages of posts. Which really isn't that many, when it comes to PD.
Forget about wolves, my fursona is a hamburger.
Great, now I have images running through my head of the hamburgler and a guy in a burger outfit.
But where's the beef?
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 02, 2010, 04:37:56 AM
I think he meant it as a joke...I hope so, anyway. People from Indiana, especially those near South Bend, should avoid humor.
It was a comment on general skepticism in regards to government conspiracies.
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:51:58 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 04:48:25 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:40:32 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 02, 2010, 04:32:25 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:01:05 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 03:52:51 AM
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
I guess it is true that people with "wolf" in their user-names or avatars are dicks.
What about other canines?
As wolves are the (misconceived) archetype for independent predators which translates as "independent thinker" or "loner internet tough guy", no, only wolves.
Dogs are "man's best friend" while coyotes/dingos are more like scavengers. Although ive heard that if hungry coyotes in the woods find you, they will fuck you up good.
Preliminary genetic evidence, however, has shown that "coyotes" in some areas are, genetically speaking, 85-90 percent Canis latrans, and from ten to fifteen percent Canis lupus (primarily wolf, along with some domestic dog DNA), prompting one researcher to jokingly suggest they be called "Canis soupus" as they are a "soup" (mixture) of canid species.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote#Name
Haven't you heard the story where Coyote kills Wolf's son?
Wolf probably deserved it, and no.
I can't find it online, but if I recall correctly, Coyote and Wolf were making rules for life after the world had been created. Coyote suggested that, when someone dies, they should be brought back to life the next day. Wolf, dick that he is, said, No, the dead must remain dead, then Coyote killed his son so that Wolf would be the first to suffer the loss of a loved one.
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 05:11:22 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 02, 2010, 04:37:56 AM
I think he meant it as a joke...I hope so, anyway. People from Indiana, especially those near South Bend, should avoid humor.
It was a comment on general skepticism in regards to government conspiracies.
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:51:58 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 04:48:25 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:40:32 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 02, 2010, 04:32:25 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:01:05 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 03:52:51 AM
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
I guess it is true that people with "wolf" in their user-names or avatars are dicks.
What about other canines?
As wolves are the (misconceived) archetype for independent predators which translates as "independent thinker" or "loner internet tough guy", no, only wolves.
Dogs are "man's best friend" while coyotes/dingos are more like scavengers. Although ive heard that if hungry coyotes in the woods find you, they will fuck you up good.
Preliminary genetic evidence, however, has shown that "coyotes" in some areas are, genetically speaking, 85-90 percent Canis latrans, and from ten to fifteen percent Canis lupus (primarily wolf, along with some domestic dog DNA), prompting one researcher to jokingly suggest they be called "Canis soupus" as they are a "soup" (mixture) of canid species.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote#Name
Haven't you heard the story where Coyote kills Wolf's son?
Wolf probably deserved it, and no.
I can't find it online, but if I recall correctly, Coyote and Wolf were making rules for life after the world had been created. Coyote suggested that, when someone dies, they should be brought back to life the next day. Wolf, dick that he is, said, No, the dead must remain dead, then Coyote killed his son so that Wolf would be the first to suffer the loss of a loved one.
What does this have to do with having sex in hamburger costumes?
Don't you respect our lifestyle?
Quote from: Nast on October 02, 2010, 05:13:05 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 05:11:22 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 02, 2010, 04:37:56 AM
I think he meant it as a joke...I hope so, anyway. People from Indiana, especially those near South Bend, should avoid humor.
It was a comment on general skepticism in regards to government conspiracies.
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:51:58 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 04:48:25 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:40:32 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 02, 2010, 04:32:25 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 04:01:05 AM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 02, 2010, 03:52:51 AM
Conspiracy theorists are in league with the media!
I guess it is true that people with "wolf" in their user-names or avatars are dicks.
What about other canines?
As wolves are the (misconceived) archetype for independent predators which translates as "independent thinker" or "loner internet tough guy", no, only wolves.
Dogs are "man's best friend" while coyotes/dingos are more like scavengers. Although ive heard that if hungry coyotes in the woods find you, they will fuck you up good.
Preliminary genetic evidence, however, has shown that "coyotes" in some areas are, genetically speaking, 85-90 percent Canis latrans, and from ten to fifteen percent Canis lupus (primarily wolf, along with some domestic dog DNA), prompting one researcher to jokingly suggest they be called "Canis soupus" as they are a "soup" (mixture) of canid species.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote#Name
Haven't you heard the story where Coyote kills Wolf's son?
Wolf probably deserved it, and no.
I can't find it online, but if I recall correctly, Coyote and Wolf were making rules for life after the world had been created. Coyote suggested that, when someone dies, they should be brought back to life the next day. Wolf, dick that he is, said, No, the dead must remain dead, then Coyote killed his son so that Wolf would be the first to suffer the loss of a loved one.
What does this have to do with having sex in hamburger costumes?
Don't you respect our lifestyle?
:lulz:
Speaking of subtext:
Proposition A: Media is reporting on government conspiracy turd theories.
Proposition B: Government conspiracies arent given enough credit.
So ok, haha. :roll:
And Wolf in that story was a smartass, and had it coming. Playing the nietzschan-wannabe lifestyle that goes along with eternity being boring and that one lifetime well used is more than enough means you cant complain when you fuck it up.
W: "I r haz thrilling lifestylez, i dun needs eternitis or goes boring"
C: <kills W puppy>
W: "BAWWWWWW"
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 02, 2010, 04:59:28 AM
Hey, silly wolf boy.
Check this guy out: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1741;sa=showPosts
It's only eight pages of posts. Which really isn't that many, when it comes to PD.
QuoteConsider these little epiphanies symbolic of a greater whole. Kinda out there but my belief system was never easy to nail down. Christians nailed their's down and it got messy.
That's because people don't care what you believe if you won't commit to anything.
Hence, discordianism.
Quote from: Sigmatic on October 02, 2010, 06:06:19 AM
That's because people don't care what you believe if you won't commit to anything.
Hence, discordianism.
HEY! YOU HAVEN'T EVEN DECLARED AN OFFICIAL WATERING HOLE!! - talk about discord!!
(http://paul.renaud75.free.fr/Zorro1.jpg)
English language, non-American newsource here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11457552
QuoteUS testing that infected hundreds of Guatemalans with gonorrhoea and syphilis more than 60 years ago was a "crime against humanity", Guatemalan President Alvaro Colom has said.
President Barack Obama has apologised for the medical tests, in which mentally ill patients and prisoners were infected without their consent.
Mr Obama told Mr Colom the 1940s-era experiments ran contrary to American values, Guatemala said.
The US has promised an investigation.
Syphilis can cause heart problems, blindness, mental illness and even death, and although the patients were treated it is not known how many recovered.
Evidence of the programme was unearthed by Prof Susan Reverby at Wellesley College. She says the Guatemalan government gave permission for the tests.
No offer of compensation has yet been made, but an investigation will be launched into the specifics of the study, which took place between 1946 and 1948.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said on Friday the news was "shocking, it's tragic, it's reprehensible".
In an interview with the BBC, Mr Colom said the test subjects were "victims of rights abuses".
"There's been a very strong reaction in the Guatemalan media and by my compatriots," he said.
"Of course, there may have been similar incidents in other countries around the world, but speaking as the president and a Guatemalan, I would have preferred that these events had never happened on this soil."
The joint statement from Mrs Clinton and Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said: "Although these events occurred more than 64 years ago, we are outraged that such reprehensible research could have occurred under the guise of public health.
"We deeply regret that it happened, and we apologise to all the individuals who were affected by such abhorrent research practices."
In his phone call to President Colom, Barack Obama reaffirmed the United States' unwavering commitment to ensure that all human medical studies conducted today meet exacting US and international legal and ethical standards, the White House.
President Obama also "underscored the United States' deep respect for the people of Guatemala and the importance of our bilateral relationship".
The study by Prof Reverby shows that US government medical researchers infected almost 700 people in Guatemala with two sexually transmitted diseases.
The patients - prisoners and people suffering mental health problems - were unaware they were being experimented upon.
The doctors used prostitutes with syphilis to infect them, or inoculation, as they tried to determine whether penicillin could prevent syphilis, not just cure it.
The patients were then treated for the disease, but it is unclear whether everyone was cured.
Prof Reverby has previously done research on the Tuskegee experiment, where the US authorities measured the progress of syphilis in African-American sharecroppers without telling them they had the disease or adequately treating it.
The experiment ran from 1932 to 1972, with President Bill Clinton eventually apologising for it.
It should be noted that from 1940-1944 Jorge Ubico was the dictator of Guatemala, and was heavily supported by the United Fruit Company, of latter "can we haz coup by CIA nao plz" fame. His sucessor, Juan José Arévalo, however, started the land reforms which eventually led to the 1954 coup (though he was also, at heart, an authoritarian, but of a more socialist bent than the liberal Ubico). Yet he was the one who apparently ran the country when the tests were being carried out. I know Ubico placed a lot of supporters in various powerful civil service positions, so it would be interesting to know which government office and officials actually green-lighted the experiments, given Arévalo was not popular in the USA and aligned his country away from the stance of Ubico, which was one of closest alliances in the Western Hemisphere previously. Did Arévalo allow the tests in order to show the USA he was still willing to "do business" or as part of a deal which allowed him to go ahead with his land reform, or was his government always secretly more aligned to the US than it claimed (Arévalo cracked down on Communist groups harder than almost anyone else, in spite of his socialist leanings).
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 02, 2010, 03:51:59 AM
Nobody gives a shit. It happened somewhere else to brown people. It could fucking happen tomorrow and nobody would fucking care.
It's probably happening right now.
All an apology means is that they'll hide it better next time.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 02, 2010, 06:55:38 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 02, 2010, 03:51:59 AM
Nobody gives a shit. It happened somewhere else to brown people. It could fucking happen tomorrow and nobody would fucking care.
It's probably happening right now.
Well, we know for sure that one program of human experimentation was running only a few years ago:
http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/06/bush-administration-experimented-detainees-phr-report
QuoteIn the course of trying to prove that its "enhanced" interrogation program was legal, the Bush administration may have broken the law, according to a new report (PDF) by Physicians for Human Rights. The watchdog group claims that in an attempt to establish that brutal interrogation tactics did not constitute torture, the administration ended up effectively experimenting on terrorism detainees. This research, PHR alleges, violated an array of regulations and treaties, including international guidelines on human testing put in place after the Holocaust.
According to the report, which draws on numerous declassified government documents, "medical professionals working for and on behalf of the CIA" frequently monitored detainee interrogations, gathering data on the effectiveness of various interrogation techniques and the pain threshholds of detainees. This information was then used to "enhance" future interrogations, PHR contends.
By monitoring post-9/11 interrogations and keeping records on the effectiveness of various techniques, medical professionals could also provide Bush administration lawyers with the information they needed to set guidelines for the use of so-called "enhanced" interrogation tactics. For instance, attorneys in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) who were devising the legal rationale for the interrogation program could use the research to determine how many times a detainee could be waterboarded. Or, based on the observations of the medical personnel monitoring the interrogation sessions, they could assess whether it was legally justifiable to administer techniques like stress positions or water dousing in combination or whether these methods needed to be applied separately.
Physicians for Human Rights makes the case that since human subject research is defined as the "systematic collection of data and/or identifiable personal information for the purpose of drawing generalizable inferences," what the Bush administration was doing amounted to human experimentation:
Human experimentation without the consent of the subject is a violation of international human rights law to which the United States is subject; federal statutes; the Common Rule, which comprises the federal regulations for research on human subjects and applies to 17 federal agencies, including the Central Intelligence Agency and the Department of Defense; and universally accepted health professional ethics, including the Nuremberg Code... Human experimentation on detainees also can constitute a war crime and a crime against humanity in certain circumstances.
Ironically, one goal of the "experimentation" seems to have been to immunize Bush administration officials and CIA interrogators from potential prosecution for torture. In the series of legal papers that are now popularly known as the "torture memos," Justice Department lawyers argued that medical monitoring would demonstrate that interrogators didn't intend to harm detainees; that "lack of intent to cause harm" could then serve as the cornerstone of a legal defense should an interrogator be targeted for prosecution. In 2003, in an internal CIA memo cited in the PHR report, the CIA's general counsel, Scott Muller, argued that medical monitoring of interrogations and "reviewing evidence gained from past experience where available (including experience gained in the course of U.S. interrogations of detainees)" would allow interrogators to inoculate themselves against claims of torture because it "established" they didn't intend to cause harm to the detainees.
According to Wikipedia, no US citizen has ever been successfully prosecuted for human experimentation without consent. So I wouldn't expect anything to change anytime soon. It's only actually a law when it's, you know,
enforced and stuff.
Trying to find stuff on human experimentation in other countries. I know there were tons of experiments in the 50s and 60s like this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipeholm_experiments
QuoteThe Vipeholm experiments were a series of human experiments where patients of Vipeholm Mental Hospital in Lund, Sweden were fed large amounts of sweets to provoke dental caries (1945-1955). The experiments were sponsored both by the sugar industry and dentist community, in an effort to determine whether carbohydrates affected the formation of cavities.
The experiments provided extensive knowledge about dental health and resulted in enough empirical data to link the intake of sugar to dental caries. However, today they are considered to have violated the principles of medical ethics.
and this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Maddison
QuoteLeading Aircraftman Ronald George Maddison (c.1933 – 6 May 1953) was a twenty-year-old Royal Air Force engineer who died while acting as a volunteer human "guinea pig" while testing nerve agents at Porton Down, in Wiltshire, England. After substantial controversy, his death was the subject of an inquest 51 years after the event.
Maddison, from Consett, County Durham, died within 45 minutes of having twenty drops (200 mg) of sarin placed onto a cloth draped on his arm during an experiment at Porton Down. Five subjects entered a sealed gas chamber at 10:17 a.m. All were fitted with respirators. Within twenty minutes, Maddison began to complain that he did not feel well. Three minutes later, Maddison collapsed and began gasping for breath, at which point the scientists removed him from the chamber and took off his gas mask. They injected him with atropine after they witnessed an asthma-like attack and convulsions. Maddison also complained of going deaf. An ambulance took him to a local medical facility. The sarin's effects blocked the flow of air into Maddison's lungs, ultimately starving his brain and tissues of oxygen. On 16 May, at an inquest ordered by the British Home Office, his death was declared accidental.
Maddison's death, along with allegations that other British chemical-weapons test volunteers (who were used as subjects between 1939 and 1989) were not properly informed and may have been misled about the experiments and their risks, was the subject of a police investigation, Operation Antler, in 1999–2004.
Servicemen were offered about 15 shillings and a three-day leave pass for taking part in the experiments. Ronald had planned to use the money to purchase an engagement ring for his girlfriend, Mary Pyle. On 8 and 16 May 1953, an inquest was held in secret before the Wiltshire Coroner, Harold Dale, who returned a verdict of misadventure. The Ministry of Defence apparently paid Maddison's father £40 for funeral expenses.
(incidentally, I don't live too far from Porton Down, and the rumours are highly wierd shit continues on being done there to this day. Evidence is slim on the ground, naturally, since British secrecy laws are amongst the tightest in the world, and the MoD denies everything, but that's what I hear)
And there is this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev_Nuclear_Research_Center
QuoteAccording to a lawsuit filed in Be'er Sheva Labor Tribunal, workers at the center were subjected to human experimentation in 1998. According to Julius Malick, the worker who submitted the lawsuit, they were given drinks with uranium without medical supervision and without obtaining written consent or warning them about risks of side effects.
Trying to find some more modern occurences, as I'm sure there are ongoing human experimentation programs in China, Burma, North Korea and similar places - the problem is because of their status as an international war crime, which makes holidaying in Europe difficult, and the natural secrecy of these states, evidence is thin on the ground.
Ah, here we are
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_North_Korean_human_experimentation
QuoteThe human rights charity Christian Solidarity Worldwide details on its website allegations of chemical experiments done to political prisoners, and an apparent eyewitnesses report about seven people who died in two gas chambers, including a mother who held her youngest child as she died.
A BBC television programme on February 1, 2004, with the title, Access to Evil in the This World series, detailed other allegations.
In the programme, a former North Korean woman prisoner, Lee Soon Ok tells how 50 healthy women prisoners were selected and given poisoned cabbage leaves, which all the women had to eat despite cries of distress from those who had already eaten. All 50 were dead after 20 minutes of vomiting blood and anal bleeding. Refusing to eat would allegedly have meant reprisals against them and their families.
Kwon Hyok, a former prison Head of Security at Camp 22, described laboratories equipped respectively for poison gas, suffocation gas and blood experiments, in which three or four people, normally a family, are the experimental subjects. After undergoing medical checks, the chambers are sealed and poison is injected through a tube, while scientists observe from above through glass. In a report reminiscent of the earlier account of a family of seven, Kwon Hyok claims to have watched one family of two parents, a son and a daughter die from suffocating gas, with the parents trying to save the children using mouth-to-mouth resuscitation for as long as they had the strength.
An interview with Kim Sang Hun, described as a distinguished human rights activist, was also broadcast. Kim Sang Hun showed documents that he says were brought from Camp 22 by an escapee and which he is sure are not forgeries. These documents each say that a certain prisoner is to be transferred for experimentation with chemical weapons. A London based expert on Korea also considers it likely that the documents are genuine and Kwon Hyok stated independently that such documents were used at Camp 22.
North Korea refuses access by any outside observers to Camp 22.
Lee Soon Ok, another North Korean defector, and one of the few to have escaped from life imprisonment in an "Absolute Control Area" through China to South Korea. In her original defector's testimony, her US Senate testimony and her prison memoir Eyes of the Tailless Animals (ISBN 0-88264-335-5) she recounted witnessing two instances of lethal human experimentation. Allegedly, her account is backed by satellite photographs, but how such events were seen has not been disclosed.
Former prison guard Ahn Myung Chul has reported that prisoners were used for "medical operation practice" for young doctors. According to him, these doctors would practice surgery on prisoners, without anesthesia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_laboratory_of_the_Soviet_secret_services
QuotePoison laboratory of the Soviet secret services, alternatively called as Laboratory 1, Laboratory 12, and Kamera which means "The Chamber" in Russian, was a covert poison research and development facility of the Soviet secret police agencies.
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Mairanovsky and his colleagues tested a number of deadly poisons on prisoners from the Gulag ("enemies of the people"), including mustard gas, ricin, digitoxin and many others. The goal of the experiments was to find a tasteless, odourless chemical that could not be detected post mortem. Candidate poisons were given to the victims, with a meal or drink, as "medication"
Finally, a preparation with the desired properties called C-2 was developed. According to witness testimonies, the victim changed physically, became shorter, weakened quickly, became calm and silent and died within fifteen minutes. Mairanovsky brought to the laboratory people of varied physical condition and ages in order to have a more complete picture about the action of each poison.
"Sudoplatov and Eitingon approved special equipment [poisons] only if it had been tested on humans", according to testimony of Mikhail Filimonov[5]. Vsevolod Merkulov said that these experiments were approved by NKVD chief Lavrenty Beria.. Beria himself testified on August 28, 1953, after his arrest that "I gave orders to Mairanovsky to conduct experiments on people sentenced to the highest measure of punishment, but it was not my idea".
In addition to human experimentation, Mairanovsky personally executed people with poisons, under the supervision of Pavel Sudoplatov.
I'm sure I've read something about Chinese political prisoners, but all I'm turning up are docs from the infamous Japanese Unit 731.
But Cain, its obviously the media running its mouth for sensationalist news-stories derived from mere conspiracies! I'm sure you dont really believe our governments could do such a thing!
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 02, 2010, 08:37:59 PM
But Cain, its obviously the media running its mouth for sensationalist news-stories derived from mere conspiracies! I'm sure you dont really believe our governments could do such a thing!
So you
do understand irony.