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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 02:19:46 AM

Title: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 02:19:46 AM
You win. I will never again have an opinion about another n00b on this board, ever.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 20, 2010, 02:22:06 AM
TEH PROFESSOR CRAMULUS:

ZERO TO VICTORY IN TWO POSTS!
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 02:24:39 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 20, 2010, 02:19:46 AM
You win. I will never again have an opinion about another n00b on this board, ever.

Me neither.  I'm going to let someone else do the poptard checks, etc.

If someone posts NSFW shit, or similar stuff, I'll deal with it.  But from now on, I couldn't give a fuck if AKK, Wade, Pop Tart, and DK all came back at once.  It's someone else's fucking problem, I'm sick of catching shit over it.

Funny thing is, Cram gave me shit about not showing enough solidarity over Poptard.  :lol:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 02:24:50 AM
Quote from: Cainad on October 20, 2010, 02:22:06 AM
TEH PROFESSOR CRAMULUS:

ZERO TO VICTORY IN TWO POSTS!

wut
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 20, 2010, 02:29:02 AM
Sorry, I thought this was a lighthearted thread.

I was referring to the fact that Cram made exactly two posts in regard to the most recent n00b, as of the time I posted that.

If I was wrong about the intent of this thread, I'll apologize for sticking my nose into what's not my business. Again. :oops:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 02:41:38 AM
Quote from: Cainad on October 20, 2010, 02:29:02 AM
Sorry, I thought this was a lighthearted thread.

I was referring to the fact that Cram made exactly two posts in regard to the most recent n00b, as of the time I posted that.

If I was wrong about the intent of this thread, I'll apologize for sticking my nose into what's not my business. Again. :oops:

Naw, no biggie.

I'm just having a giggle at the fact that Cram was on my shit for a thread I addressed to poptard, and then he's giving us the retard treatment for responding negatively to someone who sent Freeky and I weird PMs.  I'm reasonably sure it was Poptard, because he stopped posting 3 hours after he started, at about the point you'd expect a proxy IP to croak, but that's beside the point.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.  In any case, I no longer give a shit if Poptard or any other troll regs & posts.  Someone else can be the heavy for a while.

Because I'm sick of shit like this:

Quote from: Cramulus on October 20, 2010, 12:52:10 AM
b-b-b-but what if krez isn't his real name??

:tinfoilhat:


and what if one day he posts something b-b-b-bad??

:scared:

I'm just going to advise Freeky to block his PMs if he keeps acting creepy, assuming he's ever going to be back under that moniker (he won't), and I'm just going to ignore his PMs to me (I can't block PMs).

Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 02:43:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 02:41:38 AM
Quote from: Cainad on October 20, 2010, 02:29:02 AM
Sorry, I thought this was a lighthearted thread.

I was referring to the fact that Cram made exactly two posts in regard to the most recent n00b, as of the time I posted that.

If I was wrong about the intent of this thread, I'll apologize for sticking my nose into what's not my business. Again. :oops:

Naw, no biggie.

I'm just having a giggle at the fact that Cram was on my shit for a thread I addressed to poptard, and then he's giving us the retard treatment for responding negatively to someone who sent Freeky and I weird PMs.  I'm reasonably sure it was Poptard, because he stopped posting 3 hours after he started, at about the point you'd expect a proxy IP to croak, but that's beside the point.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.  In any case, I no longer give a shit if Poptard or any other troll regs & posts.  Someone else can be the heavy for a while.

Because I'm sick of shit like this:

Quote from: Cramulus on October 20, 2010, 12:52:10 AM
b-b-b-but what if krez isn't his real name??

:tinfoilhat:


and what if one day he posts something b-b-b-bad??

:scared:

I'm just going to advise Freeky to block his PMs if he keeps acting creepy, assuming he's ever going to be back under that moniker (he won't), and I'm just going to ignore his PMs to me (I can't block PMs).



That was the post that made me not give a fuck either.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 02:48:29 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 20, 2010, 02:43:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 02:41:38 AM
Quote from: Cainad on October 20, 2010, 02:29:02 AM
Sorry, I thought this was a lighthearted thread.

I was referring to the fact that Cram made exactly two posts in regard to the most recent n00b, as of the time I posted that.

If I was wrong about the intent of this thread, I'll apologize for sticking my nose into what's not my business. Again. :oops:

Naw, no biggie.

I'm just having a giggle at the fact that Cram was on my shit for a thread I addressed to poptard, and then he's giving us the retard treatment for responding negatively to someone who sent Freeky and I weird PMs.  I'm reasonably sure it was Poptard, because he stopped posting 3 hours after he started, at about the point you'd expect a proxy IP to croak, but that's beside the point.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.  In any case, I no longer give a shit if Poptard or any other troll regs & posts.  Someone else can be the heavy for a while.

Because I'm sick of shit like this:

Quote from: Cramulus on October 20, 2010, 12:52:10 AM
b-b-b-but what if krez isn't his real name??

:tinfoilhat:


and what if one day he posts something b-b-b-bad??

:scared:

I'm just going to advise Freeky to block his PMs if he keeps acting creepy, assuming he's ever going to be back under that moniker (he won't), and I'm just going to ignore his PMs to me (I can't block PMs).



That was the post that made me not give a fuck either.

Yep.  As far as I'm concerned, this can be the next 23AE, where every single thread becomes bogged down under the attacks of 2-3 insanely persistent trolls.  Not because I don't care about PD, but because I'm sick of the biannual "Roger is a fucking meanie to noobs" shit that one person or another starts every 6 months or so.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 02:53:36 AM
Amazingly enough, 30 seconds after I posted the above, Krez came back.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cramulus on October 20, 2010, 05:31:40 AM
CRAM IS THE BOSS
            \
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/horrormirth1-1.gif)



DO YOU BELIEVE HIS SHIT
            \
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/horrormirth1-1.gif)




IT'S LIKE A MOTHERFUCKING JIZZ PARADE
            \
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/horrormirth1-1.gif)
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 05:57:57 AM
I am not amused.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on October 20, 2010, 06:21:59 AM
I AM!

:popcorn:


but I'm just the audience, anyway. carry on!
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 06:28:48 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on October 20, 2010, 06:21:59 AM
I AM!

:popcorn:


but I'm just the audience, anyway. carry on!

Please feel free to join the Fuck You parade then. I am sick to death of the fucking judgment being passed around here. Judge away asswipes.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on October 20, 2010, 06:33:19 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 20, 2010, 06:28:48 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on October 20, 2010, 06:21:59 AM
I AM!

:popcorn:


but I'm just the audience, anyway. carry on!

Please feel free to join the Fuck You parade then. I am sick to death of the fucking judgment being passed around here. Judge away asswipes.

I'm just here for the beer and loose women, Pops.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 06:35:18 AM
Whatever. I am not inclined to continue to contribute to a site so eager to judge based on the last post I have made. There are, after all, other places I can contribute.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 06:36:27 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 20, 2010, 06:35:18 AM
Whatever. I am not inclined to continue to contribute to a site so eager to judge based on the last post I have made. There are, after all, other places I can contribute.

Well I, for one, Charley, am tired of it.  I'm calling you out here. (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=26993.0)
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 06:40:12 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 20, 2010, 05:31:40 AM
CRAM IS THE BOSS
            \
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/horrormirth1-1.gif)



DO YOU BELIEVE HIS SHIT
            \
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/horrormirth1-1.gif)




IT'S LIKE A MOTHERFUCKING JIZZ PARADE
            \
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/horrormirth1-1.gif)


this shit always makes me laugh.


ALWAYS.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Nast on October 20, 2010, 06:42:09 AM
I'm not aware of any argument, let alone choosing sides in it, but I just wanted to say that Crams posts are  :lulz:.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 06:43:05 AM
*shrug*
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cramulus on October 20, 2010, 01:21:31 PM
at this point it's becoming a cliche.

as soon as somebody vaguely objects to the very entrenched paranoia and hostility towards new users, the unwelcoming committe gets all hurt feelings and defensive about it and says something like "FINE, I'll never express my opinions again. EVER. YOU WIN." (Roger's done it at least twice in memory.)

Sorry but you don't get to act like a dick and be immune to anybody commenting on it. If you can't take a little fun being poked at getting all I'VE GOT MY EYE ON YOU after somebody makes a *single* post, maybe you need to relax a little. If you're going to start a confrontation thread every time somebody rubs you the wrong way, go ahead, but it's not going to stop people from commenting on what you do.

Quote from: roger
Funny thing is, Cram gave me shit about not showing enough solidarity over Poptard.

I gave you shit for doing exactly what poptart wants you to do, that is, talking about him, starting threads about him, glorifying what he's doing, and being generally unwelcoming to new users on the suspicion that they all might be him.

If Krez sent you and Freeky "creepy PMs", I was not privy to that information. From where I'm sitting, it's somebody who registered at the board and posted in a way requested by the OP. And then suddenly the PD Inquisition is all up his ass. If having a clean ip and knowledge of the things he referenced in his back story isn't going to save him, we might as well just close registration.

I'll be straight with you guys, I WANT new users on the board. I spend a lot of time here, and I like talking to people who are into Eris, even if they have totally different ideas than I do. Even anarchists and libertarians and wizards. You guys are camping the spawn point. Which dooms us to having the same 15 boring conversations over and over again until we're a parody of ourselves.

Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 02:40:55 PM
As I said in the other thread, you are correct and that will no longer be a problem.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: A /b/ C D on October 20, 2010, 07:39:08 PM
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb408/world_of_b/1287168962365.jpg)
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: A /b/ C D on October 20, 2010, 08:32:46 PM
404 - POST NOT FOUND
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 08:34:16 PM
See?  Everything will be just fine.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 20, 2010, 08:40:28 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 20, 2010, 08:43:11 PM
No matter how this goes, it's going to be funny.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 08:44:34 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 20, 2010, 08:43:11 PM
No matter how this goes, it's going to be funny.

Well, I still banned him.  I am, after all, a professional.

But I won't be LOOKING for him, anymore, or giving new people fish-eyed stares.  He'll have to out himself, first.  Since he's always proxied, he has to do that fairly fast.

Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 09:00:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 08:34:16 PM
See?  Everything will be just fine.   :lulz:

:lulz:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:01:08 PM
Quote from: A /b/ C D on October 20, 2010, 08:32:46 PM
404 - POST NOT FOUND

:lulz:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 20, 2010, 09:02:46 PM
It's important to have as many people registered here as possible, regardless of the quality. C'mon, you guys, an audience of retards is better than no audience at all, right?

RIGHT?

Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 20, 2010, 09:02:46 PM
It's important to have as many people registered here as possible, regardless of the quality. C'mon, you guys, an audience of retards is better than no audience at all, right?

RIGHT?



I, for one, welcome our new troll overlords.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:07:11 PM
And I fully support this new policy of erasing posts.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:08:03 PM
You know, if I had realized asking just to not immediately suspect every noob of wrongdoing without evidence would've started this shit, I wouldn't have bothered typing the post.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 09:09:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:08:03 PM
You know, if I had realized asking just to not immediately suspect every noob of wrongdoing without evidence would've started this shit, I wouldn't have bothered typing the post.

Or, it wasn't your post that did it. Speaking as the OP.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:11:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:08:03 PM
You know, if I had realized asking just to not immediately suspect every noob of wrongdoing without evidence would've started this shit, I wouldn't have bothered typing the post.

I wasn't responding to you, Cain.  You were, I felt, reasonable and polite in your request.

I had, by the way, already checked the IP of Krez, and it resolved to Baltimore, as he claimed.  However, Freeky and I had received some PMs that seemed a little creepy at first (resolved later, and found to be harmless).
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Jasper on October 20, 2010, 09:12:34 PM
In other words, this whole debacle is a misunderstanding taken to extremes.  Like it always is. 

Le Sigh.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 09:13:13 PM
And I haven't said shit, even with this mouthful.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:21:10 PM
I didn't know about the PMs until I read this thread.

I'd also like everyone to know that I always check the IP, email and username of anyone signing up here.  Mostly because we have so many spambots targeting the site and they are usually caught out by having similar IPs from unusual countries, or having signed up to 10,000 forums in the same week.  It also helps weed out pests, but I consider that a pleasant bonus to the main issue of keeping spam off the site.

I also still believe that publically airing suspicions without evidence is not exactly helpful and, in that position, I would also likely react negatively, despite knowing it would increase the chances of people thinking badly of me.  I just see no real gain from it.  If you have a suspicion, you can always PM me or someone else, and I will look into it, I promise.  But publically accusing someone does nothing if they are in fact the person you think they are (they're not going to admit it) and if they're not, it's only going to increase resentment and tension, which is one aim of trolling in the first place.  The probabilities show this to be a sub-optimal approach.

Which is not to say if a noob rubs you up the wrong way or acts like a moron I'm saying you shouldn't call them out on their shit or anything.  I'm just saying, if you're hoping to weed out potential returning trolls, this isn't even near the best way of doing it.

And that's all I have to say about it, really.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 09:27:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:21:10 PM
I didn't know about the PMs until I read this thread.

I'd also like everyone to know that I always check the IP, email and username of anyone signing up here.  Mostly because we have so many spambots targeting the site and they are usually caught out by having similar IPs from unusual countries, or having signed up to 10,000 forums in the same week.  It also helps weed out pests, but I consider that a pleasant bonus to the main issue of keeping spam off the site.

I also still believe that publically airing suspicions without evidence is not exactly helpful and, in that position, I would also likely react negatively, despite knowing it would increase the chances of people thinking badly of me.  I just see no real gain from it.  If you have a suspicion, you can always PM me or someone else, and I will look into it, I promise.  But publically accusing someone does nothing if they are in fact the person you think they are (they're not going to admit it) and if they're not, it's only going to increase resentment and tension, which is one aim of trolling in the first place.  The probabilities show this to be a sub-optimal approach.

Which is not to say if a noob rubs you up the wrong way or acts like a moron I'm saying you shouldn't call them out on their shit or anything.  I'm just saying, if you're hoping to weed out potential returning trolls, this isn't even near the best way of doing it.

And that's all I have to say about it, really.

I give you my word I will never make another post about IP's or n00bs.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:21:10 PM
I didn't know about the PMs until I read this thread.

I'd also like everyone to know that I always check the IP, email and username of anyone signing up here.  Mostly because we have so many spambots targeting the site and they are usually caught out by having similar IPs from unusual countries, or having signed up to 10,000 forums in the same week.  It also helps weed out pests, but I consider that a pleasant bonus to the main issue of keeping spam off the site.

I also still believe that publically airing suspicions without evidence is not exactly helpful and, in that position, I would also likely react negatively, despite knowing it would increase the chances of people thinking badly of me.  I just see no real gain from it.  If you have a suspicion, you can always PM me or someone else, and I will look into it, I promise.  But publically accusing someone does nothing if they are in fact the person you think they are (they're not going to admit it) and if they're not, it's only going to increase resentment and tension, which is one aim of trolling in the first place.  The probabilities show this to be a sub-optimal approach.

Which is not to say if a noob rubs you up the wrong way or acts like a moron I'm saying you shouldn't call them out on their shit or anything.  I'm just saying, if you're hoping to weed out potential returning trolls, this isn't even near the best way of doing it.

And that's all I have to say about it, really.

And I agree with everything you say.  And, as I've said, I don't plan to do any of that stuff anymore, as I'm sick and damned tired of being called the bad guy...Not by you, mind you, as I said, your request was reasonable.  The follow up by Cram, though, was more than a little insulting, IMO, and it occurs to me that someone else can deal with the dumbfucks.  You've done a great job with the spambots (We haven't had one actually post in years, IIRC), but dealing with the expert Discordians is really a thankless job, and I suggest you steer clear of it, much as I intend to.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:31:31 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on October 20, 2010, 09:12:34 PM
In other words, this whole debacle is a misunderstanding taken to extremes.  Like it always is.  

Le Sigh.

Only with respect to Cain, IMO.

Cram's attempt at public humiliation left no room for misunderstanding.  This is what I get for not trusting my instincts on the earlier incident.

Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:32:53 PM
I'm all about optimizing strategies to make mine, and everyone elses lives easier.

And besides, half of PD is convinced I'm some kind of Machiavellian schemer anyway (plus I am the guy with the disappearing button) so I doubt my reputation would take any serious hit.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:31:31 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on October 20, 2010, 09:12:34 PM
In other words, this whole debacle is a misunderstanding taken to extremes.  Like it always is.  

Le Sigh.

Only with respect to Cain, IMO.

Cram's attempt at public humiliation left no room for misunderstanding.  This is what I get for not trusting my instincts on the earlier incident.


Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:32:53 PM
I'm all about optimizing strategies to make mine, and everyone elses lives easier.

And besides, half of PD is convinced I'm some kind of Machiavellian schemer anyway (plus I am the guy with the disappearing button) so I doubt my reputation would take any serious hit.

But you ARE a Machiavellian schemer.  You're just OUR Machiavellian schemer.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 09:35:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:32:53 PM
I'm all about optimizing strategies to make mine, and everyone elses lives easier.

And besides, half of PD is convinced I'm some kind of Machiavellian schemer anyway (plus I am the guy with the disappearing button) so I doubt my reputation would take any serious hit.

Being an admin is a thankless job, and somebody sure as hell has to do it. I sure as hell don't want to do it. There was no sarcasm in my reply to you.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 09:46:25 PM
RAT WILL BE AN EVIL OVERLORD!
GIVE RAT THE BUTTON!
RAT WILL KICKBAN ALL TROLLS AND ALL PEOPLE THAT DON'T EAT A HOT DOG ON FRIDAY!
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 09:46:25 PM
RAT WILL BE AN EVIL OVERLORD!
GIVE RAT THE BUTTON!
RAT WILL KICKBAN ALL TROLLS AND ALL PEOPLE THAT DON'T EAT A HOT DOG ON FRIDAY!

It's all fun and games until a Paladin comes along and slays you...
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 09:46:25 PM
RAT WILL BE AN EVIL OVERLORD!
GIVE RAT THE BUTTON!
RAT WILL KICKBAN ALL TROLLS AND ALL PEOPLE THAT DON'T EAT A HOT DOG ON FRIDAY!

It's all fun and games until a Paladin comes along and slays you...

RAT WILL KICKBAN PALADINS, ROGUES, RANGERS, WIZARDS, SORCERERS AND GODDAMNED BARBARIANS!

Unless they eat hot dogs on Friday, sans bun.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 09:46:25 PM
RAT WILL BE AN EVIL OVERLORD!
GIVE RAT THE BUTTON!
RAT WILL KICKBAN ALL TROLLS AND ALL PEOPLE THAT DON'T EAT A HOT DOG ON FRIDAY!

It's all fun and games until a Paladin comes along and slays you...

RAT WILL KICKBAN PALADINS, ROGUES, RANGERS, WIZARDS, SORCERERS AND GODDAMNED BARBARIANS!

Unless they eat hot dogs on Friday, sans bun.

They'll wear you down, man.  Like a pack of 99 bonobos pulling down a hyena.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 09:56:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 09:46:25 PM
RAT WILL BE AN EVIL OVERLORD!
GIVE RAT THE BUTTON!
RAT WILL KICKBAN ALL TROLLS AND ALL PEOPLE THAT DON'T EAT A HOT DOG ON FRIDAY!

It's all fun and games until a Paladin comes along and slays you...

RAT WILL KICKBAN PALADINS, ROGUES, RANGERS, WIZARDS, SORCERERS AND GODDAMNED BARBARIANS!

Unless they eat hot dogs on Friday, sans bun.

They'll wear you down, man.  Like a pack of 99 bonobos pulling down a hyena.

The trick with bonobos is to grab them by the dick. Its their way of being friends. :lulz:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 09:58:13 PM
I was going to respond to Rat, but, well, it came out all wrong.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 20, 2010, 10:29:42 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 20, 2010, 06:28:48 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on October 20, 2010, 06:21:59 AM
I AM!

:popcorn:


but I'm just the audience, anyway. carry on!

Please feel free to join the Fuck You parade then. I am sick to death of the fucking judgment being passed around here. Judge away asswipes.

dude, you started the thread. pot calling kettle much?

FFS.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:30:29 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 20, 2010, 10:29:42 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 20, 2010, 06:28:48 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on October 20, 2010, 06:21:59 AM
I AM!

:popcorn:


but I'm just the audience, anyway. carry on!

Please feel free to join the Fuck You parade then. I am sick to death of the fucking judgment being passed around here. Judge away asswipes.

dude, you started the thread. pot calling kettle much?

FFS.

"Bob" had a thing or two to say about this.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 20, 2010, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 20, 2010, 09:02:46 PM
It's important to have as many people registered here as possible, regardless of the quality. C'mon, you guys, an audience of retards is better than no audience at all, right?

RIGHT?



actually, yeah, it is. I don't see much point in coming here to talk to the same 20 people all the time. this place needs new blood and sometimes that means putting up with 50 dipshits to find the one worthwhile new poster. If that's a problem for anyone, maybe they should call whine-one-one.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 20, 2010, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 20, 2010, 09:02:46 PM
It's important to have as many people registered here as possible, regardless of the quality. C'mon, you guys, an audience of retards is better than no audience at all, right?

RIGHT?



actually, yeah, it is. I don't see much point in coming here to talk to the same 20 people all the time. this place needs new blood and sometimes that means putting up with 50 dipshits to find the one worthwhile new poster. If that's a problem for anyone, maybe they should call whine-one-one.

I seem to remember you saying once that you'd rather have 20 good users than 100 idiots.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:35:39 PM
I'M GONNA KICK EVERYONE IN THE NADS!!!

IN!

THE!

NADS!

BUT FIRST....

Kitty
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/Squidoid667/cutie.jpg)


wait.... did you just say whine-one-one??

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFHAHA!
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 20, 2010, 10:37:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 20, 2010, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 20, 2010, 09:02:46 PM
It's important to have as many people registered here as possible, regardless of the quality. C'mon, you guys, an audience of retards is better than no audience at all, right?

RIGHT?



actually, yeah, it is. I don't see much point in coming here to talk to the same 20 people all the time. this place needs new blood and sometimes that means putting up with 50 dipshits to find the one worthwhile new poster. If that's a problem for anyone, maybe they should call whine-one-one.

I seem to remember you saying once that you'd rather have 20 good users than 100 idiots.

Just saying.

yeah, but those two things aren't mutually exclusive. And I have the right to change my mind, if they are. The real asstards tend to either smarten up after a while or weed themselves out, but if they're all chased off preemptively then we're going to be losing people that would otherwise have become contributing members.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:40:55 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 20, 2010, 10:37:37 PM
yeah, but those two things aren't mutually exclusive. And I have the right to change my mind, if they are.

Fair enough.  :lol:


Quote from: First City Hustle on October 20, 2010, 10:37:37 PM
The real asstards tend to either smarten up after a while or weed themselves out, but if they're all chased off preemptively then we're going to be losing people that would otherwise have become contributing members.

Okay.  In any case, I've already stated ad nauseum that I'm done with being the "Unwelcome Wagon", and have no further interest in hazing noobs or weeding out returning fucktards (unless they out themselves).  All traditions eventually end (except in the British Navy), and I don't see why this has to be an exception.

Dok,
Is ready for a great big love-in, which is sure to come.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 10:43:24 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 20, 2010, 10:29:42 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 20, 2010, 06:28:48 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on October 20, 2010, 06:21:59 AM
I AM!

:popcorn:


but I'm just the audience, anyway. carry on!

Please feel free to join the Fuck You parade then. I am sick to death of the fucking judgment being passed around here. Judge away asswipes.

dude, you started the thread. pot calling kettle much?

FFS.

And so? Oh, right, my fucking hive mind is busted again. Oh fuck.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:43:39 PM
A secret part of me is wishing that Dok was out in public with his laptop, gawking at that picture of Blinky up there, and behind him is some toothless weirdo passing by thinking--
     "The hell? Is this man lookin at kitties? Why is this man lookin at kitties???"
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:43:39 PM
A secret part of me is wishing that Dok was out in public with his laptop, gawking at that picture of Blinky up there, and behind him is some toothless weirdo passing by thinking--
     "The hell? Is this man lookin at kitties? Why is this man lookin at kitties???"

Yeah, but I'd just get busted for public nudity, again.

Dok,
Doesn't mix clothes and laptops.  Bet you could have gone all day without knowing that.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 10:48:47 PM
Oh come the fuck on this is ridiculous.  This doesn't need to be blown out of proportion about hive minds and Our Sacred Security or whatever the fuck.

At one point are we not allowed to poke fun at each other without it becoming an international incident?  We've all said more caustic shit to each other on a daily basis than the post in question, and sometimes a joke is just a joke and not some biting commentary on every fiber of a person's being.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:49:38 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 10:48:47 PM
Oh come the fuck on this is ridiculous.  This doesn't need to be blown out of proportion about hive minds and Our Sacred Security or whatever the fuck.

At one point are we not allowed to poke fun at each other without it becoming an international incident?  We've all said more caustic shit to each other on a daily basis than the post in question, and sometimes a joke is just a joke and not some biting commentary on every fiber of a person's being.

I'm just trying to have a little fun.   :sad:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:50:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:43:39 PM
A secret part of me is wishing that Dok was out in public with his laptop, gawking at that picture of Blinky up there, and behind him is some toothless weirdo passing by thinking--
     "The hell? Is this man lookin at kitties? Why is this man lookin at kitties???"

Yeah, but I'd just get busted for public nudity, again.

Dok,
Doesn't mix clothes and laptops.  Bet you could have gone all day without knowing that.

:aww:   why would you..  :aww:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 10:51:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:49:38 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 10:48:47 PM
Oh come the fuck on this is ridiculous.  This doesn't need to be blown out of proportion about hive minds and Our Sacred Security or whatever the fuck.

At one point are we not allowed to poke fun at each other without it becoming an international incident?  We've all said more caustic shit to each other on a daily basis than the post in question, and sometimes a joke is just a joke and not some biting commentary on every fiber of a person's being.

I'm just trying to have a little fun.   :sad:

We aren't here for fun and games, Dok.  PD is SRS BUSINESS.   :argh!:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:51:49 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:50:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:43:39 PM
A secret part of me is wishing that Dok was out in public with his laptop, gawking at that picture of Blinky up there, and behind him is some toothless weirdo passing by thinking--
     "The hell? Is this man lookin at kitties? Why is this man lookin at kitties???"

Yeah, but I'd just get busted for public nudity, again.

Dok,
Doesn't mix clothes and laptops.  Bet you could have gone all day without knowing that.

:aww:   why would you..  :aww:


Because I am a horrible cunt, obviously.

Uniform for using laptop:

Engineer boots.
Stetson.
Laptop.
Back hair.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 10:52:26 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 10:48:47 PM
Oh come the fuck on this is ridiculous.  This doesn't need to be blown out of proportion about hive minds and Our Sacred Security or whatever the fuck.

At one point are we not allowed to poke fun at each other without it becoming an international incident?  We've all said more caustic shit to each other on a daily basis than the post in question, and sometimes a joke is just a joke and not some biting commentary on every fiber of a person's being.



Hawk,
Horrible Cunt II
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:52:43 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 10:51:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:49:38 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 10:48:47 PM
Oh come the fuck on this is ridiculous.  This doesn't need to be blown out of proportion about hive minds and Our Sacred Security or whatever the fuck.

At one point are we not allowed to poke fun at each other without it becoming an international incident?  We've all said more caustic shit to each other on a daily basis than the post in question, and sometimes a joke is just a joke and not some biting commentary on every fiber of a person's being.

I'm just trying to have a little fun.   :sad:

We aren't here for fun and games, Dok.  PD is SRS BUSINESS.   :argh!:

Fun IS serious business, EoC.  Or we're just one big circle jerk.

Decide.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:53:55 PM
I mean, I may be reading you wrong, EoC, but it appears that Cram can use a little "caustic humor" with us, but I'm not allowed to direct any back his way?

I must be reading you wrong.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Richter on October 20, 2010, 10:54:48 PM
EOC: I beleive we are observing the necessary clash of opposing ideas, the dynamic of opposite forces which produce a result that cannot be achieved by any guideline, rule, peaceful or moderate resolution.  

That being said, my discordian side is going to club the peaceloving side of my head like a naughty harp seal, black bag it, and box it up.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:51:49 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:50:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:43:39 PM
A secret part of me is wishing that Dok was out in public with his laptop, gawking at that picture of Blinky up there, and behind him is some toothless weirdo passing by thinking--
     "The hell? Is this man lookin at kitties? Why is this man lookin at kitties???"

Yeah, but I'd just get busted for public nudity, again.

Dok,
Doesn't mix clothes and laptops.  Bet you could have gone all day without knowing that.

:aww:   why would you..  :aww:


Because I am a horrible cunt, obviously.

Uniform for using laptop:

Engineer boots.
Stetson.
Laptop.
Back hair.

ANUS REQUIRES MORE WOOD!

Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:51:49 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:50:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 20, 2010, 10:43:39 PM
A secret part of me is wishing that Dok was out in public with his laptop, gawking at that picture of Blinky up there, and behind him is some toothless weirdo passing by thinking--
     "The hell? Is this man lookin at kitties? Why is this man lookin at kitties???"

Yeah, but I'd just get busted for public nudity, again.

Dok,
Doesn't mix clothes and laptops.  Bet you could have gone all day without knowing that.

:aww:   why would you..  :aww:


Because I am a horrible cunt, obviously.

Uniform for using laptop:

Engineer boots.
Stetson.
Laptop.
Back hair.

ANUS REQUIRES MORE WOOD!



I can't interpret that in any way that won't result in me getting beaten within an inch of my miserable life.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Jasper on October 20, 2010, 11:00:54 PM
I'm at a loss myself.   :? :lol:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 11:03:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:53:55 PM
I mean, I may be reading you wrong, EoC, but it appears that Cram can use a little "caustic humor" with us, but I'm not allowed to direct any back his way?

I must be reading you wrong.

My Discordianism wasn't equipped with a fucking off switch.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 11:05:21 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 20, 2010, 10:54:48 PM
EOC: I beleive we are observing the necessary clash of opposing ideas, the dynamic of opposite forces which produce a result that cannot be achieved by any guideline, rule, peaceful or moderate resolution.  

That being said, my discordian side is going to club the peaceloving side of my head like a naughty harp seal, black bag it, and box it up.

All well and good if it were about the guideline itself, which I believe was Cain's request.  Looks like all parties agreed to that one.

But nobody dare accuse me of being anything but a contrarian fuckwad.  "Can't we all just get along," is probably the most contrarian shit one could do on this board.    :lulz:

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:53:55 PM
I mean, I may be reading you wrong, EoC, but it appears that Cram can use a little "caustic humor" with us, but I'm not allowed to direct any back his way?

I must be reading you wrong.

I guess I just don't find it funny when two old bastards cry.   8)
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 20, 2010, 11:07:48 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 11:05:21 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 20, 2010, 10:54:48 PM
EOC: I beleive we are observing the necessary clash of opposing ideas, the dynamic of opposite forces which produce a result that cannot be achieved by any guideline, rule, peaceful or moderate resolution.  

That being said, my discordian side is going to club the peaceloving side of my head like a naughty harp seal, black bag it, and box it up.

All well and good if it were about the guideline itself, which I believe was Cain's request.  Looks like all parties agreed to that one.

But nobody dare accuse me of being anything but a contrarian fuckwad.  "Can't we all just get along," is probably the most contrarian shit one could do on this board.    :lulz:

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 10:53:55 PM
I mean, I may be reading you wrong, EoC, but it appears that Cram can use a little "caustic humor" with us, but I'm not allowed to direct any back his way?

I must be reading you wrong.

I guess I just don't find it funny when two old bastards cry.   8)

D/N/T THE HORRIBLE CUNT™ CABAL
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 11:27:33 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 11:05:21 PM
I guess I just don't find it funny when two old bastards cry.   8)

:mccain: :walken: :clint:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cain on October 21, 2010, 06:09:24 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 20, 2010, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:32:53 PM
I'm all about optimizing strategies to make mine, and everyone elses lives easier.

And besides, half of PD is convinced I'm some kind of Machiavellian schemer anyway (plus I am the guy with the disappearing button) so I doubt my reputation would take any serious hit.

But you ARE a Machiavellian schemer.  You're just OUR Machiavellian schemer.   :lulz:

No, I'm not, and I'm sick of the various and constant insinuations that I am.

And FTR, I found tonight's display to be every bet as humiliating as you both probably found Cram's statements, if not more so.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Troll Monster on October 21, 2010, 09:00:42 AM
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb408/world_of_b/Successful_troll2.jpg)
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2010, 03:09:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2010, 06:09:24 AM
No, I'm not, and I'm sick of the various and constant insinuations that I am.

Sorry, I was kidding.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2010, 06:09:24 AM
And FTR, I found tonight's display to be every bet as humiliating as you both probably found Cram's statements, if not more so.

Well, I thought it might be a better way to address the issue than the other two methods I've tried:

1.  PMing and asking WTF, and

2.  Going berserk.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 21, 2010, 03:55:23 PM
Quote from: Troll Monster on October 21, 2010, 09:00:42 AM
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb408/world_of_b/Successful_troll2.jpg)

:x

Sadly true... once again.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 21, 2010, 03:57:25 PM
Only because people keep responding to him.

hint hint.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cuddlefish on October 21, 2010, 04:08:04 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 20, 2010, 10:48:47 PM
At one point are we not allowed to poke fun at each other without it becoming an international incident?

PD.com-Now with more international incidents per serving.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cain on October 21, 2010, 09:45:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2010, 06:09:24 AM
And FTR, I found tonight's display to be every bet as humiliating as you both probably found Cram's statements, if not more so.

Well, I thought it might be a better way to address the issue than the other two methods I've tried:

1.  PMing and asking WTF, and

2.  Going berserk.

OK, but unless anything was said in the PMs between you and Cram, it seems the closest possible comment towards "being nice" were mine, even taking into account the caveats I posted in this thread.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cramulus on October 21, 2010, 09:52:55 PM
FTR I wasn't addressed via PM, just multiple threads of braying and drama escalation
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 22, 2010, 05:07:55 AM
SHUT UP NOOB!
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 21, 2010, 09:52:55 PM
FTR I wasn't addressed via PM, just multiple threads of braying and drama escalation

No, not this time.  In the past I've PM'd you over misunderstandings, etc, and usually not received a response.

Hateshitting doesn't work, and isn't really appropriate, anyway.

So I did as you asked.  Sure, first I spent a day spazzing out in a hippie-esque love fest, but that was just for cheap kicks.  I am still not going to say a damn thing to any noobs, other than maybe "hello", no matter what the circumstances are.

So you got what you wanted.  I trust there will be no complaints.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cramulus on October 22, 2010, 05:56:06 PM
I recall a few instances of you PMming me over misunderstandings, most of the time we work them out like adults. The vast majority of the time, you express your dissatisfaction by dragging drama all over the board, by being disproportionally rude and sarcastic in a bunch of unrelated threads, and by acting like I'm some kind of fascist dictator for expressing my opinion.

Those times that you've PM'd me and been any degree of diplomatic, I've been willing to work with you and meet half way as long as you're actually centered on resolving the issue and not enflaming it.

I think people will back me up here that I've got a pretty good track record of handling things with diplomacy. I can think of a few recent examples, but you deleted those threads, so I guess you'll just have to take my word on it.

I like how you've dismissed the idea of being diplomatic with me though, and prefer to spazz out and throw temper tantrums. Clearly what you and Charlie want is a board where you can be a total dick and be free of any criticism or feedback. Hey, that's understandable -- I wish nobody would disagree with me either, but I'm not willing to sacrifice friendships over minor tension, so you are stronger than me in that regard.

Unfortunately, the real reasons I come here have finally been eclipsed by the endless drama cycle, and I no longer care. I've invested too much here and now I kind of regret it. I don't have the energy to engage somebody that produces thread after thread of butt hurt at the slightest sign of challenge. So you can have it, man - this is your board. You can make it into any kind of community you want. You won't be bothered by any more feedback. Since you take it really personally even when I'm joking around with you, I'll cut that out too. I'll be quiet and submissive and limit myself to writing haikus and fluff threads.

If you'd prefer that I leave entirely, I'm actually fine with that too. No need to even ask, just leave the drama in your sig so that there's no way anybody can avoid it. You are the master troll, I tip my hat to you.

Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 22, 2010, 05:56:06 PM
I recall a few instances of you PMming me over misunderstandings, most of the time we work them out like adults. The vast majority of the time, you express your dissatisfaction by dragging drama all over the board, by being disproportionally rude and sarcastic in a bunch of unrelated threads, and by acting like I'm some kind of fascist dictator for expressing my opinion.

Those times that you've PM'd me and been any degree of diplomatic, I've been willing to work with you and meet half way as long as you're actually centered on resolving the issue and not enflaming it.

I think people will back me up here that I've got a pretty good track record of handling things with diplomacy. I can think of a few recent examples, but you deleted those threads, so I guess you'll just have to take my word on it.

I like how you've dismissed the idea of being diplomatic with me though, and prefer to spazz out and throw temper tantrums. Clearly what you and Charlie want is a board where you can be a total dick and be free of any criticism or feedback. Hey, that's understandable -- I wish nobody would disagree with me either, but I'm not willing to sacrifice friendships over minor tension, so you are stronger than me in that regard.

Unfortunately, the real reasons I come here have finally been eclipsed by the endless drama cycle, and I no longer care. I've invested too much here and now I kind of regret it. I don't have the energy to engage somebody that produces thread after thread of butt hurt at the slightest sign of challenge. So you can have it, man - this is your board. You can make it into any kind of community you want. You won't be bothered by any more feedback. Since you take it really personally even when I'm joking around with you, I'll cut that out too. I'll be quiet and submissive and limit myself to writing haikus and fluff threads.

If you'd prefer that I leave entirely, I'm actually fine with that too. No need to even ask, just leave the drama in your sig so that there's no way anybody can avoid it. You are the master troll, I tip my hat to you.



What the hell?  :?

I was just having a little fun.   :sad:





Also, what threads did I delete?
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cramulus on October 22, 2010, 06:54:26 PM
the split from The Great Reality Safari
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 06:57:35 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 22, 2010, 06:54:26 PM
the split from The Great Reality Safari

That still exists, I think.  It may be down in the trash bin.  I don't have the ability to delete entire threads.

And I split that to get back on topic, after we discussed it.

But I have a serious, non-bitchy (if it sounds bitchy, it's not intended) question, Cram...You had a little fun with us, with the "b-b-b-but what if they do something BAD?" post, so we had a little fun with you, with the Dok/Charley hippie freakout.

Why is it okay for you to have some fun, but not us?
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cramulus on October 22, 2010, 07:07:08 PM
It's a matter of proportion

one single post from me - not even an especially bitchy or confrontational post -

resulted in 2 new threads, & dragging the drama into several other threads and your signatures


My patience was already thin for being rudely called out for joking around with you in the infographic thread. The very next day, you started another board-spanning campaign against me based on one post.


fuck this
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on October 22, 2010, 07:10:18 PM
:(
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 07:15:26 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 22, 2010, 07:07:08 PM
It's a matter of proportion

one single post from me - not even an especially bitchy or confrontational post -

resulted in 2 new threads, & dragging the drama into several other threads and your signatures


My patience was already thin for being rudely called out for joking around with you in the infographic thread. The very next day, you started another board-spanning campaign against me based on one post.


fuck this

I'm not accepting that answer.  

If you get to joke around, we get to joke around.  If our joke runs on a bit long, well, I'm just partial to shaggy dog stories, you know?  I mean, I finally decide to stop getting pissed off at posts like the one I described (which was definitely an "I'm laughing at you, not with you" routine, you know it was well as I do), and run it back at you a little, and now that's a high crime?

No, Cram, we are a society of equals, here.  You don't get special rules or dispensations.  If you want to indulge in a little mockery and derision, you can at least expect a little mockery in return (or maybe a whole lot).

So what's it going to be, Cram?  Are you going to be a rock n roller, and hold yourself to the same standard you demand of us, or are you going to go all "Bill O'Reilly" on us?
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: LMNO on October 22, 2010, 07:17:21 PM
Why the hell is it that this shit usually starts when I'm not able to post here for a few days?


Cram: You suck.

Howl: You suck.

Charley: Lighten up.

And FUCK YOU, KAI.





LMNO
-into the deep end.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 22, 2010, 07:17:21 PM
Why the hell is it that this shit usually starts when I'm not able to post here for a few days?


Cram: You suck.

Howl: You suck.

Charley: Lighten up.

And FUCK YOU, KAI.





LMNO
-into the deep end.

That's it.  I'm hiring Suu to accidentally your and dump you in that river that Providence lets go to waste.

Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: LMNO on October 22, 2010, 07:24:07 PM
BRING IT, BALDY.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 07:25:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 22, 2010, 07:24:07 PM
BRING IT, BALDY.

TOO LAZY.  CONTRACTING IT.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: LMNO on October 22, 2010, 07:29:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 07:25:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 22, 2010, 07:24:07 PM
BRING IT, BALDY.

TOO LAZY.  CONTRACTING IT.


:lulz:

Goddamn it.  I honestly couldn't keep a straight face when I read that.

:argh!:

THIS ISN'T OVER, OLD MAN!
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Cramulus on October 22, 2010, 07:30:57 PM
what ever

I'm not asking for special status protected from critique (like Charlie), and I'm not saying you're not allowed to comment on my comment. I'm saying you blew it way out of proportion by trolling me all over the board. And it worked - I won't get in your way any more.

I guess that makes me Bill O'Reilley.


peace out
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 07:32:43 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 22, 2010, 07:30:57 PM
what ever

I'm not asking for special status protected from critique (like Charlie), and I'm not saying you're not allowed to comment on my comment. I'm saying you blew it way out of proportion by trolling me all over the board. And it worked - I won't get in your way any more.

I guess that makes me Bill O'Reilley.


peace out

:(

I have viewed you as a giant since 2007.  Now you're telling me it was just the camera angle?

Say it ain't so, Joe.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 07:34:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 22, 2010, 07:29:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 07:25:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 22, 2010, 07:24:07 PM
BRING IT, BALDY.

TOO LAZY.  CONTRACTING IT.


:lulz:

Goddamn it.  I honestly couldn't keep a straight face when I read that.

:argh!:

THIS ISN'T OVER, OLD MAN!

Tucson protects me.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of Phoenix, I shall fear no teabagger.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 07:40:10 PM
Well, shit.  Someone I really admired turned out to not exist.  Just another nasty joke played on me by the universe.

:madbanana:

This pisses me the fuck off.  It's like finding out that Bill Nye is just an actor, not a real scientist.  Or that Elton John has been lip-synching for 42 years, like Milli Vanilli.  Or that downtown Boston and Providence are really just wooden cut-outs supported by rickety frames.

There are no giants.  Just more fucking windmills.  :crankey:

I'm going to go shit in the engineer's filing cabinet.

For now,
Dok
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: LMNO on October 22, 2010, 07:54:49 PM
CRAM:  PUT ON YOUR MOUSTACHE, AND DRINK SCOTCH.



ONLY THE COMBINATION OF THESE CAN SAVE YOUR IMMORTAL SENSE OF HUMOR.






srsly.  plz?
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: the last yatto on October 22, 2010, 08:51:35 PM
Some reason I keep hearing devo's whipit except the lyrics been changed


CRAM IT CRAM IT GOOD
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 22, 2010, 09:06:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 22, 2010, 07:17:21 PM
Why the hell is it that this shit usually starts when I'm not able to post here for a few days?


Cram: You suck.

Howl: You suck.

Charley: Lighten up.

And FUCK YOU, KAI.





LMNO
-into the deep end.

Go fuck yourself. Filthy Pig fucker. Yes, they squealed on you, pervert.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: LMNO on October 22, 2010, 09:08:19 PM
Pig puns?


YOU RESORT TO PIG PUNS?


Have you no decency, sir?
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 22, 2010, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 22, 2010, 07:30:57 PM
what ever

I'm not asking for special status protected from critique (like Charlie), and I'm not saying you're not allowed to comment on my comment. I'm saying you blew it way out of proportion by trolling me all over the board. And it worked - I won't get in your way any more.

I guess that makes me Bill O'Reilley.


peace out

Whoa. I wasn't asking for a fucking thing. I simply stated what would fucking happen.

You (inadvertently)  invoked The Dok and Charley Show. We do that kind of thing. It's a large part of our lovable charm. This isn't the first time we have been told we are big bad mean bullies to n00bs. Perhaps it was that last straw?

I like you, but I'll be damned if I stop being who I am because you or others say so.

Dok, had IRL shit to do, sorry to leave you hanging.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 22, 2010, 09:12:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 22, 2010, 09:08:19 PM
Pig puns?


YOU RESORT TO PIG PUNS?


Have you no decency, sir?

I always go straight for the curly.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: AFK on October 22, 2010, 09:21:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 22, 2010, 07:17:21 PM
Why the hell is it that this shit usually starts when I'm not able to post here for a few days?


Cram: You suck.

Howl: You suck.

Charley: Lighten up.

And FUCK YOU, KAI.





LMNO
-into the deep end.

I know how you feel.  I still don't really understand what happened.  I've been around but I have so many projects in the air right now I'm only able to give cursory attention to the board. 
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 22, 2010, 09:28:34 PM
I can see where Cram is coming from. I'd be pissed too, if I were him. I won't bother expecting any of the people that are antagonizing him to understand why their actions are being perceived the way they are, but yeah, I think some of you guys have been been disproportionally dickly to him. There's "hey, one of our fellow PDers said something we disagree strongly with and we're going to use snark and assholish humor to make him see our points of view" and then there's "FUCK THAT GUY AND WHAT HE THINKS LET'S FUCKING SHOW THAT FUCKER WHAT A FUCKER HE IS" and frankly, some people have seemed to embrace the latter course of action. You guys are probably lucky you pulled this shit on Cram, who doesn't seem to feel like it's worth the bother to buck up and piss in all of your boots. I'd be mailing you all 3 week old roadkill.

Either way, I hope you fuckers can find a way to work this out that doesn't leave the board poorer for the outcome.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 22, 2010, 09:30:44 PM
Quote from: Punmeister Meisterpunner on October 22, 2010, 09:21:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 22, 2010, 07:17:21 PM
Why the hell is it that this shit usually starts when I'm not able to post here for a few days?


Cram: You suck.

Howl: You suck.

Charley: Lighten up.

And FUCK YOU, KAI.





LMNO
-into the deep end.

I know how you feel.  I still don't really understand what happened.  I've been around but I have so many projects in the air right now I'm only able to give cursory attention to the board. 

Short version.

Dok/Charley go batshit. Hey, it happens. It's not our fault 1/3 of the board freaked out, 1/3 of the board was in hysterics and 1/3 of the bard was pissed.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 22, 2010, 09:34:05 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 22, 2010, 09:28:34 PM
I can see where Cram is coming from. I'd be pissed too, if I were him. I won't bother expecting any of the people that are antagonizing him to understand why their actions are being perceived the way they are, but yeah, I think some of you guys have been been disproportionally dickly to him. There's "hey, one of our fellow PDers said something we disagree strongly with and we're going to use snark and assholish humor to make him see our points of view" and then there's "FUCK THAT GUY AND WHAT HE THINKS LET'S FUCKING SHOW THAT FUCKER WHAT A FUCKER HE IS" and frankly, some people have seemed to embrace the latter course of action. You guys are probably lucky you pulled this shit on Cram, who doesn't seem to feel like it's worth the bother to buck up and piss in all of your boots. I'd be mailing you all 3 week old roadkill.

Either way, I hope you fuckers can find a way to work this out that doesn't leave the board poorer for the outcome.

Like I said, I like Cram, always have. Did I mean for it to go to these extremes? No.

Bottom line, I don't want to lose his friendship over a fight about how I treat n00bs. I have given my word that I will ignore them.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: the last yatto on October 22, 2010, 10:32:04 PM
If a problem comes along you must CRAM IT
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 22, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
I don't think it's so much about how noobs are treated as it is how Cram was disrespected and shit on for voicing his opinion.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 11:35:33 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 22, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
I don't think it's so much about how noobs are treated as it is how Cram was disrespected and shit on for voicing his opinion.

It was HOW he voiced his opinion that led me to run it back at him in a very similar, if over the top, way.

If someone posts in a sneering, condescending way - even in jest - I'm going to give them shit (in jest), just as I am given shit, and you are given shit, and anyone else here is given shit.  Rather than post about what an asshole he is - because he isn't an asshole - I, along with Charley, went on a 24 hour hippie fest binge...employing the exact same humor he employed on us.

Contrast that with my response to Cain, who voiced the exact same concern Cram did, but in a reasonable, polite manner.

If Cram can needle me, I can needle him.  Right?
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Jimmy Chitwood on October 22, 2010, 11:36:29 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on October 22, 2010, 10:32:04 PM
If a problem comes along you must CRAM IT

CRAM IT GOOD
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 23, 2010, 01:07:33 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 22, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
I don't think it's so much about how noobs are treated as it is how Cram was disrespected and shit on for voicing his opinion.

Disrespected?

So now when I go batshit about something I am disrespecting?


This isn't going to work for me. Maybe I am the one who should move on.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 23, 2010, 01:13:19 AM
Yeah, I've thought it over.

Bye.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: the last yatto on October 23, 2010, 01:15:11 AM
...

Or :?
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: E.O.T. on October 23, 2010, 03:36:18 AM
W0W,

          i didn't know all this was going on. do i have to start reading every godamned thread just to keep a breast?!
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on October 23, 2010, 03:40:33 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 23, 2010, 03:36:18 AM
W0W,

         i didn't know all this was going on. do i have to start reading every godamned thread just to keep a breast?!

IF

         you fall off the wagon again, we will confiscate your remaining breast.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Don Coyote on October 23, 2010, 03:41:33 AM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on October 23, 2010, 03:40:33 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 23, 2010, 03:36:18 AM
W0W,

          i didn't know all this was going on. do i have to start reading every godamned thread just to keep a breast?!

IF

          you fall off the wagon again, we will confiscate your other breast.

THIS

        make me crave a sammich.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: E.O.T. on October 23, 2010, 03:44:08 AM


YOU

          guys are exactly why p.d. can't have nice things
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Don Coyote on October 23, 2010, 03:45:42 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 23, 2010, 03:44:08 AM


YOU

          guys are exactly why p.d. can't have nice things

SEE

        my sig.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: the last yatto on October 23, 2010, 03:52:01 AM
I ate yuo guys  :argh!:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 23, 2010, 05:40:28 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 11:35:33 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 22, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
I don't think it's so much about how noobs are treated as it is how Cram was disrespected and shit on for voicing his opinion.

It was HOW he voiced his opinion that led me to run it back at him in a very similar, if over the top, way.

If someone posts in a sneering, condescending way - even in jest - I'm going to give them shit (in jest), just as I am given shit, and you are given shit, and anyone else here is given shit.  Rather than post about what an asshole he is - because he isn't an asshole - I, along with Charley, went on a 24 hour hippie fest binge...employing the exact same humor he employed on us.

Contrast that with my response to Cain, who voiced the exact same concern Cram did, but in a reasonable, polite manner.

If Cram can needle me, I can needle him.  Right?

Thing is, I don't think I've even seen the post of his that you're talking about. Could be because it wasn't really sneering and condescending (not like you've ever read that into a post where it wasn't actually present), or it could be because it was one post and only one post.

On the other hand, the completely overdramatic and seemingly very petulant responses to his one post (and not just by you, mind you) quickly covered several threads and turned into a completely unnecessary shitfest. So please, don't try to characterize it as though you were just giving back what you had gotten.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 23, 2010, 05:43:29 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 23, 2010, 01:07:33 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 22, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
I don't think it's so much about how noobs are treated as it is how Cram was disrespected and shit on for voicing his opinion.

Disrespected?

So now when I go batshit about something I am disrespecting?


This isn't going to work for me. Maybe I am the one who should move on.

The argument could be made that when you go batshit about something trivial every other day you are disrespecting the board at large. I mean, in what world is it considered perfectly acceptable behavior to go batshit at the drop of a hat? I'm not trying to pick on you, man, but I hope you're capable of stepping back and looking at that behavior from an outside perspective and realizing that maybe it's neither warranted nor particularly amusing.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 23, 2010, 05:47:03 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 23, 2010, 05:40:28 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 11:35:33 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 22, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
I don't think it's so much about how noobs are treated as it is how Cram was disrespected and shit on for voicing his opinion.

It was HOW he voiced his opinion that led me to run it back at him in a very similar, if over the top, way.

If someone posts in a sneering, condescending way - even in jest - I'm going to give them shit (in jest), just as I am given shit, and you are given shit, and anyone else here is given shit.  Rather than post about what an asshole he is - because he isn't an asshole - I, along with Charley, went on a 24 hour hippie fest binge...employing the exact same humor he employed on us.

Contrast that with my response to Cain, who voiced the exact same concern Cram did, but in a reasonable, polite manner.

If Cram can needle me, I can needle him.  Right?

Thing is, I don't think I've even seen the post of his that you're talking about. Could be because it wasn't really sneering and condescending (not like you've ever read that into a post where it wasn't actually present), or it could be because it was one post and only one post.

On the other hand, the completely overdramatic and seemingly very petulant responses to his one post (and not just by you, mind you) quickly covered several threads and turned into a completely unnecessary shitfest. So please, don't try to characterize it as though you were just giving back what you had gotten.

Oh, and dude, don't try to be all "at least I didn't post about what an asshole he is" when you changed your signature to point out in every post you made on the entire board what an asshole you think he is. I mean, c'mon.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 23, 2010, 06:00:51 AM
I want to point out, that as the last few pages were happening, Suu, Richter, Leln, GS, and myself were taking history tours on Lovecraft, drinking scotch, eating bratwurst, pretzels, sauerkraut, and drinking beer out of boots.  PD works.  Love, EoC.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Adios on October 23, 2010, 07:43:37 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 23, 2010, 05:43:29 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 23, 2010, 01:07:33 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 22, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
I don't think it's so much about how noobs are treated as it is how Cram was disrespected and shit on for voicing his opinion.

Disrespected?

So now when I go batshit about something I am disrespecting?


This isn't going to work for me. Maybe I am the one who should move on.

The argument could be made that when you go batshit about something trivial every other day you are disrespecting the board at large. I mean, in what world is it considered perfectly acceptable behavior to go batshit at the drop of a hat? I'm not trying to pick on you, man, but I hope you're capable of stepping back and looking at that behavior from an outside perspective and realizing that maybe it's neither warranted nor particularly amusing.

Well, it's because you don't have the ability to shut the fuck up that I am leaving PD. You are an asshole. You bitch endlessly about this shit when I was trying to solve it. Fuck you, you arrogant glass house prick.
This is the last post I will ever make on this pissy whiney assed site.

Fuck you ECH for your arrogance.
Fuck you Cram for your playing the butthurt little baby.

Good luck Dok. I have had enough of this fucking bullshit.
You can find me at MW. Where at least I know what the rules are.
PD has turned into something I can no longer tolerate or support.

Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 23, 2010, 08:42:30 AM
this whole thread

:crankey:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REVl4skqqUg&feature=related
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Payne on October 23, 2010, 09:37:55 AM
Meh.

Sometimes people forget that PD is more than ECH, DH, Hawk and Cram (plus whoever jumps into whatever argument is going).

I am sick of it myself. So sick of it that I am planning to drop Ezekial (Paynite Version) on your asses. Out of Spite I would leave the description (all 8 chapters or so) of the New Temple in.

I barely post as it is, what with sharing a computer and connection with the ever lovely Pixie. When I DO have a chance to, I'm finding I don't want to anymore.

I love Cram as a colleague (WOMP counts as work now, dammit) and as a very unique and compelling visionary of Discordia. I love Roger as the creative genius he is, he's someone that I have NEVER had any kind of argument with or any bad words with I think of him as a friend (friends are rare for me, I treasure them). I love Hawk, for all his "faults" he's an outstandingly nice guy, and with all the half bricks life has thrown at him you'd expect him to be down for the count. No he's built himself a nice little house. I love ECH for his supreme bluntness and his refusal to compromise.

I mean, I could go on, there are plenty of people to love here, and many reasons to love them. Even the assholes who piss me off occasionally have something I can get behind. Not including the out and out trolls here, of course. And there are plenty of things I hate with a goddamned passion

I don't CARE who's right or wrong. I don't CARE who wins the argument. I dont CARE if there is nothing else to do except argue.

All I know is that I am sick to the back teeth of the arguing and the disruption to a community I love, and the very real threat of PD becoming a "Routine" stop for me in my internetting as opposed to it being what it is now.

And I sincerely hope that the principles in this current argument can see that they (Hawk in particular) are conflating the argument between 3 or 4 people with the ENTIRITY of PD. It has to stop, now.

Or kill me.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on October 23, 2010, 10:34:08 AM
IAWTF

Pixie: Turning Payne into a hippie since 2009.

its time for my pills now.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2010, 04:09:34 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 23, 2010, 05:47:03 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 23, 2010, 05:40:28 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 22, 2010, 11:35:33 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 22, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
I don't think it's so much about how noobs are treated as it is how Cram was disrespected and shit on for voicing his opinion.

It was HOW he voiced his opinion that led me to run it back at him in a very similar, if over the top, way.

If someone posts in a sneering, condescending way - even in jest - I'm going to give them shit (in jest), just as I am given shit, and you are given shit, and anyone else here is given shit.  Rather than post about what an asshole he is - because he isn't an asshole - I, along with Charley, went on a 24 hour hippie fest binge...employing the exact same humor he employed on us.

Contrast that with my response to Cain, who voiced the exact same concern Cram did, but in a reasonable, polite manner.

If Cram can needle me, I can needle him.  Right?

Thing is, I don't think I've even seen the post of his that you're talking about. Could be because it wasn't really sneering and condescending (not like you've ever read that into a post where it wasn't actually present), or it could be because it was one post and only one post.

On the other hand, the completely overdramatic and seemingly very petulant responses to his one post (and not just by you, mind you) quickly covered several threads and turned into a completely unnecessary shitfest. So please, don't try to characterize it as though you were just giving back what you had gotten.

Oh, and dude, don't try to be all "at least I didn't post about what an asshole he is" when you changed your signature to point out in every post you made on the entire board what an asshole you think he is. I mean, c'mon.

Wait.  What?  I made a sig out of something he said that I thought was funny on more than one level.

In any case, I'm done with the subject.  I've explained my side of it, and I really don't have anything to add.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: BadBeast on October 23, 2010, 09:21:08 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on October 23, 2010, 09:37:55 AM
Meh.

Sometimes people forget that PD is more than ECH, DH, Hawk and Cram (plus whoever jumps into whatever argument is going).

I am sick of it myself. So sick of it that I am planning to drop Ezekial (Paynite Version) on your asses. Out of Spite I would leave the description (all 8 chapters or so) of the New Temple in.

I barely post as it is, what with sharing a computer and connection with the ever lovely Pixie. When I DO have a chance to, I'm finding I don't want to anymore.

I love Cram as a colleague (WOMP counts as work now, dammit) and as a very unique and compelling visionary of Discordia. I love Roger as the creative genius he is, he's someone that I have NEVER had any kind of argument with or any bad words with I think of him as a friend (friends are rare for me, I treasure them). I love Hawk, for all his "faults" he's an outstandingly nice guy, and with all the half bricks life has thrown at him you'd expect him to be down for the count. No he's built himself a nice little house. I love ECH for his supreme bluntness and his refusal to compromise.

I mean, I could go on, there are plenty of people to love here, and many reasons to love them. Even the assholes who piss me off occasionally have something I can get behind. Not including the out and out trolls here, of course. And there are plenty of things I hate with a goddamned passion

I don't CARE who's right or wrong. I don't CARE who wins the argument. I dont CARE if there is nothing else to do except argue.

All I know is that I am sick to the back teeth of the arguing and the disruption to a community I love, and the very real threat of PD becoming a "Routine" stop for me in my internetting as opposed to it being what it is now.

And I sincerely hope that the principles in this current argument can see that they (Hawk in particular) are conflating the argument between 3 or 4 people with the ENTIRITY of PD. It has to stop, now.

Or kill me.
:mittens: :fuckmittens: :mittens: I was just about to say the exact same thing. OK, not exact, but fuckin' hell guys, can't we all just be  snarky smartarses to each other without having so much fucking DRAMA involved? It's not like there's even an argument to win here anymore, just a steaming pile of shit that needs sucking up. Everyone who weighed in here (just about) had valid points to make, everyone who weighed in here (just about) stomped around indignantly for a bit, and everyone who weighed in here, wants to see PD be all that it can be. Which it can't be if everyone gets all prima donna, and starts saying shit that turns into. This. Fucking. Drama.
Dok, ECH, Charley, and Cram, I think everyone accepts the huge investments each of you have made to PD, but you all have different visions for this place. They are not incompatible, but you are all part of the essential dynamic that makes this place what it is.
So when you get involved in this sort of Drama, everyone is affected. People get drawn in, shit gets said, and PD suffers. No-one minds a bit of suffering, if it's going to have a beneficial outcome, but  I can't see anything getting resolved here. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, and something good comes from this. Like
A/ Charley, please stop being so oversensitive, and saying you're leaving for good. No-one, not even you wants this to be the case.

B/ Dok, Get back on that unwelcoming committee, and chew some fucking n00bs up. You know you enjoy it, you know it needs to be done, and you know nobody else is up to the special blend of hate, derision, and (where necessary) welcome you bring.

ECH/ Just keep on doing what you do. 

Cram/ Have a drink, trim your whiskers, and say something totally inappropriate, then we'll all know everything's gonna be cool.

OK, I'm done.   :|   
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 23, 2010, 11:54:44 PM
Payne and BadBeast are riding an awfully correct-looking motorcycle. I'm done with this drama. My opinion has been voiced (some might say more forcefully than necessary) and anyone on the receiving end of that opinion has already made up their mind how to react to it so no point carrying on.

And just so everyone is clear, I still consider Roger and Charley friends, and I'd still go to bat for them anytime. Hell, Roger, I consider you as good a friend as it's possible to have never actually met and Charley (because I know you can't stay away forever) I'd still like to raise a glass with you. But I don't blunt my opinion for anyone, least of all the people I respect. I hope whatever hard feelings have arisen from this don't linger too long.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: eighteen buddha strike on October 24, 2010, 11:31:12 AM
This recent drama has made me think...
Its too internalized. Charlie & Roger are the sort that you damn well need for a raid though.
That was never my cup of tea, too distracted by meat and meat related activities.
Nonetheless, those are the sort you damn well need.
Roger, I'll forgive you for confusing me with Zurtok.
You are the sort we damn well need, say it again, Damn Well Need.
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Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: East Coast Hustle on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
Wait, Roger confused you with Zurtok? :lulz:

I don't think I've ever even seen a mexican in Omaha.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: AFK on October 24, 2010, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on October 23, 2010, 09:37:55 AM
Meh.

Sometimes people forget that PD is more than ECH, DH, Hawk and Cram (plus whoever jumps into whatever argument is going).
I am sick of it myself. So sick of it that I am planning to drop Ezekial (Paynite Version) on your asses. Out of Spite I would leave the description (all 8 chapters or so) of the New Temple in.

I barely post as it is, what with sharing a computer and connection with the ever lovely Pixie. When I DO have a chance to, I'm finding I don't want to anymore.

I love Cram as a colleague (WOMP counts as work now, dammit) and as a very unique and compelling visionary of Discordia. I love Roger as the creative genius he is, he's someone that I have NEVER had any kind of argument with or any bad words with I think of him as a friend (friends are rare for me, I treasure them). I love Hawk, for all his "faults" he's an outstandingly nice guy, and with all the half bricks life has thrown at him you'd expect him to be down for the count. No he's built himself a nice little house. I love ECH for his supreme bluntness and his refusal to compromise.

I mean, I could go on, there are plenty of people to love here, and many reasons to love them. Even the assholes who piss me off occasionally have something I can get behind. Not including the out and out trolls here, of course. And there are plenty of things I hate with a goddamned passion

I don't CARE who's right or wrong. I don't CARE who wins the argument. I dont CARE if there is nothing else to do except argue.

All I know is that I am sick to the back teeth of the arguing and the disruption to a community I love, and the very real threat of PD becoming a "Routine" stop for me in my internetting as opposed to it being what it is now.

And I sincerely hope that the principles in this current argument can see that they (Hawk in particular) are conflating the argument between 3 or 4 people with the ENTIRITY of PD. It has to stop, now.

Or kill me.

This, especially the bolded. 
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: eighteen buddha strike on October 24, 2010, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
Wait, Roger confused you with Zurtok? :lulz:

I don't think I've ever even seen a mexican in Omaha.

There are plenty on the South Side.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: BIG MAC on October 26, 2010, 08:53:47 AM
principiadiscordia.com, where mods fight over trivial shit in order to retain power and stature that doesn't exist.


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Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 26, 2010, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
Wait, Roger confused you with Zurtok? :lulz:

I don't think I've ever even seen a mexican in Omaha.

Maybe they confuse indians for them.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: BadBeast on October 26, 2010, 08:55:58 AM
Quote from: BIG MAC on October 26, 2010, 08:53:47 AM
principiadiscordia.com, where mods fight over trivial shit in order to retain power and stature that doesn't exist.


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Oh Fuck off, you numb cunt.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Placid Dingo on October 26, 2010, 09:26:26 AM
Quote from: BIG MAC on October 26, 2010, 08:53:47 AM
principiadiscordia.com, where mods fight over trivial shit in order to retain power and stature that doesn't exist.


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Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
Wait, Roger confused you with Zurtok? :lulz:

I don't think I've ever even seen a mexican in Omaha.

Maybe they confuse indians for them.
Oh please.
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 26, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
Wait, Roger confused you with Zurtok? :lulz:

I don't think I've ever even seen a mexican in Omaha.

Maybe they confuse indians for them.
Oh please.

Please what?
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
Wait, Roger confused you with Zurtok? :lulz:

I don't think I've ever even seen a mexican in Omaha.

Maybe they confuse indians for them.
Oh please.

Please what?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdMZ1qrn6k)
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 26, 2010, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
Wait, Roger confused you with Zurtok? :lulz:

I don't think I've ever even seen a mexican in Omaha.

Maybe they confuse indians for them.
Oh please.

Please what?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdMZ1qrn6k)

I think you mean PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jGA5ZMKxJQ)
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 08:13:38 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
Wait, Roger confused you with Zurtok? :lulz:

I don't think I've ever even seen a mexican in Omaha.

Maybe they confuse indians for them.
Oh please.

Please what?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdMZ1qrn6k)

I think you mean PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jGA5ZMKxJQ)
Nigga Plz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I11w-rl6iaY)
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Jimmy Chitwood on October 26, 2010, 09:26:55 PM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 08:13:38 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
Wait, Roger confused you with Zurtok? :lulz:

I don't think I've ever even seen a mexican in Omaha.

Maybe they confuse indians for them.
Oh please.

Please what?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdMZ1qrn6k)

I think you mean PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jGA5ZMKxJQ)
[/url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I11w-rl6iaY]Nigga Plz[/url]

:lulz:
Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 27, 2010, 05:39:43 AM
WHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!


Title: Re: Attn: Cramulus
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 27, 2010, 05:45:00 AM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 08:13:38 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: eighteen buddha strike on October 26, 2010, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 26, 2010, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: First City Hustle on October 24, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
Wait, Roger confused you with Zurtok? :lulz:

I don't think I've ever even seen a mexican in Omaha.

Maybe they confuse indians for them.
Oh please.

Please what?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdMZ1qrn6k)

I think you mean PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jGA5ZMKxJQ)
Nigga Plz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I11w-rl6iaY)

:lulz: