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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Cramulus on October 20, 2010, 04:58:07 PM

Title: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Cramulus on October 20, 2010, 04:58:07 PM
A recent survey showed that atheists and agnostics are better informed about religion than religious people (http://www.pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx). (don't read the article if you're gonna take the quiz, it gives away some of the answers)

I am willing to bet that Discordians can beat atheists.  :p



Here's another version of the quiz:

http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/index.php?


My score: 12/15 correct, scoring better than 87% of the population. 8)
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 20, 2010, 04:58:07 PM
A recent survey showed that atheists and agnostics are better informed about religion religious people (http://www.pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx). (don't read the article if you're gonna take the quiz, it gives away some of the answers)

I am willing to bet that Discordians can beat atheists.  :p



Here's another version of the quiz:

http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/index.php?


My score: 12/15 correct, scoring better than 87% of the population. 8)


I took it a couple of weeks ago and your assessment is correct. I got a perfect score.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 05:02:21 PM
Also, I found the percentage results and demographics per question to be disheartening, especially where people were incapable of correctly answering questions about their own religious denomination.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Cain on October 20, 2010, 05:03:02 PM
I think I got the one of the constitutional questions wrong which, incidentally, is entirely unfair.

14 out of 15.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: bds on October 20, 2010, 05:04:03 PM
9 out of 15. Not terrible, I guess. Especially as 2 of the questions were US constitution specific. Kinda hoped for higher, but I'm pretty sure I got the main ones right, just didn't know who one or two of the names mentioned were.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Juana on October 20, 2010, 05:05:06 PM
14/15. Better than 97%.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Suu on October 20, 2010, 05:13:03 PM
You answered 13 out of 15 questions correctly
for a score of 87%.

Better than 93% of the public.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 05:14:04 PM
93%

Incorrectly answered the last question.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Suu on October 20, 2010, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 05:14:04 PM
93%

Incorrectly answered the last question.

I missed that one too.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: AFK on October 20, 2010, 05:24:17 PM
Heh, I imagine atheists and agnostics score better because of all that research they do to pwn religious-types on internet message boards.  Meanwhile, the religious people rely upon their, um, faith, in their own knowledge. 
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Juana on October 20, 2010, 05:28:40 PM
Well, that or soul searching. Or general interest in different religions.

I can never remember the Old Testament, so I missed the "who loved God even though God let Satan fuck with him" question.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: themenniss on October 20, 2010, 05:29:31 PM
10/15
us constitution ones got me as well. then again. UK resident.
ah well.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 05:32:41 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 20, 2010, 05:28:40 PM
Well, that or soul searching. Or general interest in different religions.
I can never remember the Old Testament, so I missed the "who loved God even though God let Satan fuck with him" question.
This. Not everyone is an atheist internet troll.

Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on October 20, 2010, 05:40:19 PM
You answered 14 out of 15 questions correctly for a score of 93%.

I messed up on the Pakastan religion because my brain went  :x
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: AFK on October 20, 2010, 05:41:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 20, 2010, 05:32:41 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 20, 2010, 05:28:40 PM
Well, that or soul searching. Or general interest in different religions.
I can never remember the Old Testament, so I missed the "who loved God even though God let Satan fuck with him" question.
This. Not everyone is an atheist internet troll.

Sorry, I figured the e-prime was understood.  "Some" atheists and agnostics probably score very well for the reason I outlined. 

Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on October 20, 2010, 05:48:35 PM
13 out of 15.

I feel special now.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Jasper on October 20, 2010, 05:49:08 PM
I got 11/14

Better than 73%

I haven't even read any books on this.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Juana on October 20, 2010, 05:58:50 PM
I suspect if you pay attention, you'll have absorbed most of this. Some of it, no, but a good portion of it.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 06:02:46 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 20, 2010, 05:41:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 20, 2010, 05:32:41 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 20, 2010, 05:28:40 PM
Well, that or soul searching. Or general interest in different religions.
I can never remember the Old Testament, so I missed the "who loved God even though God let Satan fuck with him" question.
This. Not everyone is an atheist internet troll.

Sorry, I figured the e-prime was understood.  "Some" atheists and agnostics probably score very well for the reason I outlined. 



I don't know much about e-prime other than some people here use it.  :)
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Jasper on October 20, 2010, 06:05:23 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 20, 2010, 05:58:50 PM
I suspect if you pay attention, you'll have absorbed most of this. Some of it, no, but a good portion of it.

Most of it.

I intentionally guessed wrong on the "reading a bible excerpt in class" question just to be contrary though.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on October 20, 2010, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 20, 2010, 05:58:50 PM
I suspect if you pay attention, you'll have absorbed most of this. Some of it, no, but a good portion of it.

13/15. I was a day off on the Jewish Sabbath (though I had considered the right answer, just wasn't sure) and just guessed at the Great Awakening question.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: AFK on October 20, 2010, 07:17:48 PM
I got 13/15 but honestly I guessed on a couple of the ones I got right. 
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on October 20, 2010, 07:19:52 PM
I knew all of them, it pisses me off I spazzed.   :evilmad:
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 20, 2010, 07:17:48 PM
I got 13/15 but honestly I guessed on a couple of the ones I got right. 

I guessed on the Great Awakening one myself.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: The Android on October 20, 2010, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 20, 2010, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 20, 2010, 07:17:48 PM
I got 13/15 but honestly I guessed on a couple of the ones I got right. 

I guessed on the Great Awakening one myself.

I guessed on that one too.  I got 14/15.  I was the keener in Sunday School, though I don't think I believe any of it then.  In my house bible stories amounted to about the same as stories about King Arthur or Hr Pufenstuf.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Phox on October 20, 2010, 08:36:25 PM
14/15. Missed the Jewish Sabbath one, because it was misleadingly worded.  (Actually, I didn't bother to read past Jewish Sabbath before answering) :oops:
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 20, 2010, 08:37:33 PM
14/15, better than 93%

Damn well oughtta be, after AP World, AP US, and AP European History, with a summer class on Buddhism to boot. :lulz:
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Cain on October 20, 2010, 08:47:06 PM
Quote from: Phox on October 20, 2010, 08:36:25 PM
14/15. Missed the Jewish Sabbath one, because it was misleadingly worded.  (Actually, I didn't bother to read past Jewish Sabbath before answering) :oops:

I hesistated before that one as well.  Of course it starts on Friday night, but it is commonly just referred to as Saturday...so you have to wonder, do the test designers actually know this?  I decided since it was Pew, they probably did, but in any other test, I would have just picked Saturday.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Kurt Christ on October 20, 2010, 08:48:53 PM
13/15. Missed the Sabbath one, and the one about the Great Awakening.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Elder Iptuous on October 20, 2010, 08:58:39 PM
i missed the sabbath one for reason that cain stated, and the leading a class in prayer thing, because this is Texas and the teachers still do it anyways.  :lol:

seriously, you guys all missed the jonathan edwards one?  did 'sinners in the hands of an angry god' not impact you strongly?  even with all the fantastic spider imagery which is so popular on this board?
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:02:10 PM
I got Edwards.  It was leading the prayers which caught me out.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: The Johnny on October 20, 2010, 09:13:29 PM

73% but i dont know all your goddamn local trivia.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:14:51 PM
Given this test was apparently asked in Spain and the UK as well, why was there so much American-centric trivia?  I mean, that is surely going to skew the results...maybe not significantly, but it's not exactly helpful.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 09:15:35 PM
Quote from: Phox on October 20, 2010, 08:36:25 PM
14/15. Missed the Jewish Sabbath one, because it was misleadingly worded.  (Actually, I didn't bother to read past Jewish Sabbath before answering) :oops:

My last boss is an observant Jew, so there was no way I wasn't going to nail that one (I used to handle his schedule)
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: The Johnny on October 20, 2010, 09:16:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:14:51 PM
Given this test was apparently asked in Spain and the UK as well, why was there so much American-centric trivia?  I mean, that is surely going to skew the results...maybe not significantly, but it's not exactly helpful.

I smell IP tracker filtersss.

QuoteYour responses on the quiz do NOT affect the U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey's results.

Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Elder Iptuous on October 20, 2010, 09:17:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:14:51 PM
Given this test was apparently asked in Spain and the UK as well, why was there so much American-centric trivia?  I mean, that is surely going to skew the results...maybe not significantly, but it's not exactly helpful.

as Kouichi Toyama pointed out, everywhere is America...
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 09:14:51 PM
Given this test was apparently asked in Spain and the UK as well, why was there so much American-centric trivia?  I mean, that is surely going to skew the results...maybe not significantly, but it's not exactly helpful.

To be fair, for those particular questions, if you step back a moment and think about them, you can reason them out. Especially seeing as how non-Americans consistently seem to know more about how America works than your average American does.  :lulz:

Edit for To/Too/Two fail. Thinking phonetically again.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: The Johnny on October 20, 2010, 09:19:15 PM
Im still beating your Jewish home team by 12%, and Jews are racial-stereotype smart.  :wink:

So,  :pax:
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: The Johnny on October 20, 2010, 09:21:51 PM

But its simple, its almost a given that people that are into a post-modern Discordia thing are aware of several religions tenets and have some basic knowledge of whats going on with the rest of them.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on October 20, 2010, 09:21:51 PM

But its simple, its almost a given that people that are into a post-modern Discordia thing are aware of several religions tenets and have some basic knowledge of whats going on with the rest of them.

I think that's another reason why atheists did pretty well. You're usually not born atheist or Discordian, so you kinda shop around for a bit first to see what's out there. I suppose in order to think for yourself, you have to see what other people are thinking too.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: BabylonHoruv on October 20, 2010, 09:25:03 PM
I got 14/15,  I didn't know who led the "first great awakening"
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 09:30:56 PM
I just thought of something too:
Does the survey take education level into account? Generally atheism is more prevalent in people with higher level education, so not only have they been exposed to other cultures and religions through people they went to college and grad school with (thus getting you out of whatever neighborhood you lived in in high school) but also that they may have taken a comparative religions course along the way. For example, I didn't know any non-Catholics til I got to high school and I didn't meet any Muslims until I got to college.

Except for Muhammad. But he worked at the pizza joint and talked more about missing Morocco than anything else.

ETA: One of the funniest quotes I've heard in my life, I walk in to order a sub and the first thing I hear is another guy in the back shouting "Muhammad! Stop talking about donkey dick!" and I saw him motioning in response and saying "They're this big!"
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 20, 2010, 09:33:01 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 20, 2010, 09:25:03 PM
I got 14/15,  I didn't know who led the "first great awakening"

Me and you both... I thought it was Morpheus. :rimshot:
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on October 20, 2010, 09:41:06 PM
13/15

or

87%

Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on October 20, 2010, 09:41:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 20, 2010, 09:30:56 PM

ETA: One of the funniest quotes I've heard in my life, I walk in to order a sub and the first thing I hear is another guy in the back shouting "Muhammad! Stop talking about donkey dick!" and I saw him motioning in response and saying "They're this big!"

:lulz:
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 09:43:32 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on October 20, 2010, 09:41:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 20, 2010, 09:30:56 PM

ETA: One of the funniest quotes I've heard in my life, I walk in to order a sub and the first thing I hear is another guy in the back shouting "Muhammad! Stop talking about donkey dick!" and I saw him motioning in response and saying "They're this big!"

:lulz:

I laughed too. Muhammad spun around and just said, "They really are!" I was a regular there, naturally. But it did suddenly make me feel awkward ordering a sub.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Golden Applesauce on October 20, 2010, 10:29:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 20, 2010, 09:30:56 PM
I just thought of something too:
Does the survey take education level into account? Generally atheism is more prevalent in people with higher level education, so not only have they been exposed to other cultures and religions through people they went to college and grad school with (thus getting you out of whatever neighborhood you lived in in high school) but also that they may have taken a comparative religions course along the way. For example, I didn't know any non-Catholics til I got to high school and I didn't meet any Muslims until I got to college.

Except for Muhammad. But he worked at the pizza joint and talked more about missing Morocco than anything else.

ETA: One of the funniest quotes I've heard in my life, I walk in to order a sub and the first thing I hear is another guy in the back shouting "Muhammad! Stop talking about donkey dick!" and I saw him motioning in response and saying "They're this big!"

Yeah, education is the single best predictor of score on the test.  But even after taking education and demographics into account, Jews/Mormons/Atheists do better.

From the article (the one you weren't supposed to read until after the test.)
Quote
What factors seem to contribute to religious knowledge? Data from the survey indicate that educational attainment – how much schooling an individual has completed – is the single best predictor of religious knowledge. College graduates get nearly eight more questions right on average than do people with a high school education or less. Having taken a religion course in college is also strongly associated with higher religious knowledge.

Other factors linked with religious knowledge include reading Scripture at least once a week and talking about religion with friends and family. People who say they frequently talk about religion with friends and family get an average of roughly two more questions right than those who say they rarely or never discuss religion. People with the highest levels of religious commitment – those who say that they attend worship services at least once a week and that religion is very important in their lives – generally demonstrate higher levels of religious knowledge than those with medium or low religious commitment.3 Having regularly attended religious education classes or participated in a youth group as a child adds more than two questions to the average number answered correctly, compared with those who seldom or never participated in such activities. And those who attended private school score more than two questions better on average than those who attended public school when they were growing up. Interestingly, however, those who attended a private religious school score no better than those who attended a private nonreligious school.

This survey and previous Pew Forum studies have shown that Jews and atheists/agnostics have high levels of educational attainment on average, which partially explains their performance on the religious knowledge survey. However, even after controlling for levels of education and other key demographic traits (race, age, gender and region), significant differences in religious knowledge persist among adherents of various faith traditions. Atheists/agnostics, Jews and Mormons still have the highest levels of religious knowledge, followed by evangelical Protestants, then those whose religion is nothing in particular, mainline Protestants and Catholics. Atheists/agnostics and Jews stand out for high levels of knowledge about world religions other than Christianity, though they also score at or above the national average on questions about the Bible and Christianity. Holding demographic factors constant, evangelical Protestants outperform most groups (with the exceptions of Mormons and atheists/agnostics) on questions about the Bible and Christianity, but evangelicals fare less well compared with other groups on questions about world religions such as Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism. Mormons are the highest-scoring group on questions about the Bible.

When education and other demographic traits are held equal, whites score better than minorities on the survey's religious knowledge questions, men score somewhat better than women, and people outside the South score better than Southerners. The oldest group in the population (age 65 and older) gets fewer questions right than other age groups. However, people 65 and older do about as well as people under age 50 on questions about the Bible and Christianity; they do less well on questions about other world religions.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Cuddlefish on October 20, 2010, 10:40:25 PM
12 of 15
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Golden Applesauce on October 20, 2010, 10:44:42 PM
Now wait a second.  Protestants averaged 6.5 / 12 questions on Christianity, while Mormons averaged 7.9 / 12.  But three questions specifically relating to Mormonism were in the question set (of which Mormons got 2.7 correct.)  Was Mormonism filed under Christianity or World Religions?
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Triple Zero on October 20, 2010, 10:51:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 05:03:02 PM
I think I got the one of the constitutional questions wrong which, incidentally, is entirely unfair.

14 out of 15.

I thought I'd get those wrong too, and the one about the Smith guy, but I guessed them, figured "Smith sounds American, if it's somehow an important dude, probably mormon" and the Great Awakening one, I knew it wasn't Billy Graham (who, thanks to reading Illuminatus, I know is a televangelist) so I had to guess those.

Guessed them all correctly. Failed on thinking the Sabbath is on Saturday (it isn't??), so 14/15 :lulz:
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Tempest Virago on October 20, 2010, 10:54:19 PM
I expected this to be harder. I only got 12/15 though so I probably shouldn't talk. It's scary that so many people wouldn't know these things. Some of them were kinda hard, but most of them seemed like basic knowledge that you should know even if you hadn't researched this shit.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 10:55:13 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 20, 2010, 10:51:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 05:03:02 PM
I think I got the one of the constitutional questions wrong which, incidentally, is entirely unfair.

14 out of 15.

I thought I'd get those wrong too, and the one about the Smith guy, but I guessed them, figured "Smith sounds American, if it's somehow an important dude, probably mormon" and the Great Awakening one, I knew it wasn't Billy Graham (who, thanks to reading Illuminatus, I know is a televangelist) so I had to guess those.

Guessed them all correctly. Failed on thinking the Sabbath is on Saturday (it isn't??), so 14/15 :lulz:

The Jewish Sabbath begins at sundown on Friday. (Like I said, last boss was observant Jewish)
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 10:56:52 PM
Quote from: Tempest Virago on October 20, 2010, 10:54:19 PM
I expected this to be harder. I only got 12/15 though so I probably shouldn't talk. It's scary that so many people wouldn't know these things. Some of them were kinda hard, but most of them seemed like basic knowledge that you should know even if you hadn't researched this shit.

It's not hard at all. I guessed on one question and got it right. Got all the other ones right too.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Juana on October 20, 2010, 10:58:14 PM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on October 20, 2010, 10:44:42 PM
Now wait a second.  Protestants averaged 6.5 / 12 questions on Christianity, while Mormons averaged 7.9 / 12.  But three questions specifically relating to Mormonism were in the question set (of which Mormons got 2.7 correct.)  Was Mormonism filed under Christianity or World Religions?
Really depends. A lot of people treat them as a non-Christian religion, others do. My philosophy of religion book tucks them in the back of the book along with neo-paganism.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 20, 2010, 11:00:01 PM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on October 20, 2010, 10:44:42 PM
Now wait a second.  Protestants averaged 6.5 / 12 questions on Christianity, while Mormons averaged 7.9 / 12.  But three questions specifically relating to Mormonism were in the question set (of which Mormons got 2.7 correct.)  Was Mormonism filed under Christianity or World Religions?

Mormonism is technically Christianity. 2 testaments in common. Also, they believe that Jesus of Nazareth was the messiah. That is the basic criterion of being Christian, Native American Jews be damned.

ETA: Mormons would score better because they are Protestants. But they are a specific kind of Protestant that other Protestants look upon as at best heretical and at worst Satanic.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Tempest Virago on October 20, 2010, 11:25:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 20, 2010, 10:56:52 PM
Quote from: Tempest Virago on October 20, 2010, 10:54:19 PM
I expected this to be harder. I only got 12/15 though so I probably shouldn't talk. It's scary that so many people wouldn't know these things. Some of them were kinda hard, but most of them seemed like basic knowledge that you should know even if you hadn't researched this shit.

It's not hard at all. I guessed on one question and got it right. Got all the other ones right too.

Yeah, there was just a few I wasn't sure on, and had to guess on. I admit I am not an expert on all things religious, which is why I expected it would be harder for me, I guess.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Phox on October 21, 2010, 12:36:32 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 20, 2010, 08:47:06 PM
Quote from: Phox on October 20, 2010, 08:36:25 PM
14/15. Missed the Jewish Sabbath one, because it was misleadingly worded.  (Actually, I didn't bother to read past Jewish Sabbath before answering) :oops:

I hesistated before that one as well.  Of course it starts on Friday night, but it is commonly just referred to as Saturday...so you have to wonder, do the test designers actually know this?  I decided since it was Pew, they probably did, but in any other test, I would have just picked Saturday.

Yeah, that's tricky if you answer "When is the Jewish Sabbath?" not, "When, by a modern American calendar week, does the Sabbath begin?" .

The reason I knew John Edwards is because I have read some of his sermons in a few American philosophy courses. The second guy I'd never heard of, though.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Jenne on October 21, 2010, 01:41:44 AM
13/15, but I should have done better than that--the only Q I didn't know was that last one, and I spaced on the other one I missed, which I don't remember...this is what I get for working 12 hours in a day. :x
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Kai on October 21, 2010, 02:15:23 AM
14/15. Last one was the only one I didn't immediately know, and missed.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Elder Iptuous on October 21, 2010, 02:19:07 AM
i immediately knew every single one of them, but missed two... :/
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: President Television on October 21, 2010, 02:50:55 AM
12/15. I have no formal religious education. Shame on America.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Iason Ouabache on October 21, 2010, 03:00:14 AM
15 out of 15, bitches.

:jihaad:
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Iason Ouabache on October 21, 2010, 03:12:10 AM
I really surprised that only 11% of people got the last question right. I had to read Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God (http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/history/spurgeon/web/edwards.sinners.html) in high school English class (public school, btw). That guy was fucking intense!
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: pharmakon on October 21, 2010, 08:53:14 AM
14/15.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Payne on October 21, 2010, 08:55:26 AM
100%

Guessed on the supreme court questions.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: BadBeast on October 24, 2010, 01:31:29 AM
14 out of 15. But I accidentally skipped one of the questions and couldn't go back to it.  :x  So, does this mean I can be a Jehovah's Witness then?
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Placid Dingo on November 01, 2010, 11:58:43 AM
I got 13 BUT the irony is I only got the Communion question right because I read about people getting it wrong in the test, in an article.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: BadBeast on November 01, 2010, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on November 01, 2010, 11:58:43 AM
I got 13 BUT the irony is I only got the Communion question right because I read about people getting it wrong in the test, in an article.
See how the insipid drip, drip, drip,of stifling Dogma, seeps into our modern "enlightened" consciousness, from dozens of generations of superstitious Churchgoing ancestors, from the first 5th or 6th Century Roman Missionary Priests, exiled to Barbarian lands, to spread the Gospel of Christ to the Heathens, to the Jehovah's Witnesses who (used to) knock on my door every other week?
It's like having your Hard drive all clagged up with Spyware, that you don't even know is there. Only in your head! 
Thanks a bunch, Jesus!
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Cramulus on November 01, 2010, 01:37:16 PM
I haven't crunched any numbers or anything but I suspect we are beating the pants off of everybody.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Eve on November 01, 2010, 08:47:11 PM
15/15, including a lucky 50-50 guess on the last one.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Richter on November 01, 2010, 08:59:21 PM
14/15 from a few weeks ago.  Yeah, the last one was pretty left-field to me. 
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: BadBeast on November 01, 2010, 09:52:02 PM
Quote from: Eve on November 01, 2010, 08:47:11 PM
15/15, including a lucky 50-50 guess on the last one.
Did they send you, Your Own. Personal. Jesus?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMF8vWYnYs4
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Telarus on November 02, 2010, 12:13:24 AM
My girl and I went through this together. We each scored 14/15 (we got different ones wrong). 'Course, we kind of take the 'Clergy' thing seriously, and she's performed 2 marriages so far, but it's not like we read Abrahamic theology all the time.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: BadBeast on November 02, 2010, 12:36:23 AM
Quote from: Telarus on November 02, 2010, 12:13:24 AM
My girl and I went through this together. We each scored 14/15 (we got different ones wrong). 'Course, we kind of take the 'Clergy' thing seriously, and she's performed 2 marriages so far, but it's not like we read Abrahamic theology all the time.
Ah, well that would be an ecunemical matter, . . .
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Requia ☣ on November 02, 2010, 12:47:04 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 21, 2010, 03:12:10 AM
I really surprised that only 11% of people got the last question right. I had to read Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God (http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/history/spurgeon/web/edwards.sinners.html) in high school English class (public school, btw). That guy was fucking intense!

I have no idea who this guy is, or what that book is.  He apparently has negative recognition though, since you'd expect one person in three to get it right by guessing.

Come to think, there are a few questions like that.  The transubstantiation one and the bible-as-literature one both have well below coin flip performance.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Iason Ouabache on November 02, 2010, 07:40:54 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 02, 2010, 12:47:04 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 21, 2010, 03:12:10 AM
I really surprised that only 11% of people got the last question right. I had to read Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God (http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/history/spurgeon/web/edwards.sinners.html) in high school English class (public school, btw). That guy was fucking intense!

I have no idea who this guy is, or what that book is.  He apparently has negative recognition though, since you'd expect one person in three to get it right by guessing.
People probably confused him with former senator John Edwards or John Edward, the Biggest Douche (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103515/im-not-a-douche) in the Universe (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/153799/there-he-is). It's a shame too since Jonathan Edwards played a big role in pre-Revolutionary War America. He was the biggest Puritan leader and helped start the First Great Awakening. Also, huge raging Calvinist dick.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: BadBeast on November 02, 2010, 07:55:39 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 02, 2010, 07:40:54 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 02, 2010, 12:47:04 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 21, 2010, 03:12:10 AM
I really surprised that only 11% of people got the last question right. I had to read Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God (http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/history/spurgeon/web/edwards.sinners.html) in high school English class (public school, btw). That guy was fucking intense!

I have no idea who this guy is, or what that book is.  He apparently has negative recognition though, since you'd expect one person in three to get it right by guessing.
People probably confused him with former senator John Edwards or John Edward, the Biggest Douche (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103515/im-not-a-douche) in the Universe (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/153799/there-he-is). It's a shame too since Jonathan Edwards played a big role in pre-Revolutionary War America. He was the biggest Puritan leader and helped start the First Great Awakening. Also, huge raging Calvinist dick.
A proper Frothy one then?
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: BadBeast on November 02, 2010, 07:57:00 AM
Probably just as well he shipped out to America then, or he may have ended up on a Bonfire!
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Stelpa on November 03, 2010, 01:45:57 AM
12 out of 15... Durn, I thought I would do better :\
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Lies on November 03, 2010, 02:01:12 AM
12/15, the ones I didn't score well on were knowing the jewish sabbath (I thought it was muslims who had theirs on fridays, I answered saturday) and the one with martin luther king and that johnathan edwards guy, which I mostly missed because my understanding of those american things are quite limited, so I'm pretty happy with my score.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Golden Applesauce on November 03, 2010, 02:47:01 AM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on November 01, 2010, 11:58:43 AM
I got 13 BUT the irony is I only got the Communion question right because I read about people getting it wrong in the test, in an article.

I can understand how even the Catholics were confused by that question.  Having gone to CCD (Catholic Sunday School) and three different Catholic private schools, the best understanding of the doctrine I have is the bread and wine literally turn into the body and blood of Christ, not symbolically, but that the "body and blood of Christ" is itself symbolic for the Church as a community.  Nobody teaches that the bread turns into meat or the wine into serum/platelets/blood cells.  I think it's one of the cases where the Vatican can't take back the idea of literal transubstantiation, so they redefined the word "literal" instead.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Placid Dingo on November 03, 2010, 07:49:23 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on November 03, 2010, 02:01:12 AM
12/15, the ones I didn't score well on were knowing the jewish sabbath (I thought it was muslims who had theirs on fridays, I answered saturday) and the one with martin luther king and that johnathan edwards guy, which I mostly missed because my understanding of those american things are quite limited, so I'm pretty happy with my score.

Me too!

Were you too deceived by The Big Lebowski?
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on November 03, 2010, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on November 03, 2010, 02:01:12 AM
12/15, the ones I didn't score well on were knowing the jewish sabbath (I thought it was muslims who had theirs on fridays, I answered saturday) and the one with martin luther king and that johnathan edwards guy, which I mostly missed because my understanding of those american things are quite limited, so I'm pretty happy with my score.

The Sabbath one is a trick question. The Jewish day begins at Sunset, so technically its their Saturday while its still our Friday Night.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Golden Applesauce on November 03, 2010, 02:56:14 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 03, 2010, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on November 03, 2010, 02:01:12 AM
12/15, the ones I didn't score well on were knowing the jewish sabbath (I thought it was muslims who had theirs on fridays, I answered saturday) and the one with martin luther king and that johnathan edwards guy, which I mostly missed because my understanding of those american things are quite limited, so I'm pretty happy with my score.

The Sabbath one is a trick question. The Jewish day begins at Sunset, so technically its their Saturday while its still our Friday Night.

The Sabbath starts on Saturday, but Saturday starts on Friday.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Telarus on November 03, 2010, 11:25:27 PM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on November 03, 2010, 02:56:14 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 03, 2010, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on November 03, 2010, 02:01:12 AM
12/15, the ones I didn't score well on were knowing the jewish sabbath (I thought it was muslims who had theirs on fridays, I answered saturday) and the one with martin luther king and that johnathan edwards guy, which I mostly missed because my understanding of those american things are quite limited, so I'm pretty happy with my score.

The Sabbath one is a trick question. The Jewish day begins at Sunset, so technically its their Saturday while its still our Friday Night.

The Sabbath starts on Saturday, but Saturday starts on Friday.

Yes, exactly. Which is why the whole Hot Dog on a Friday thing is in the PD. Incidentally, I got through about half of that quiz from remembering where in the PD it got made fun of, then free-associating to the answer.
Title: Re: Religious Knowledge Survey
Post by: Brotep on November 04, 2010, 12:21:03 AM
100%.

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God is pretty vivid. As for the god portrayed therein, kind of a dick.