Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:06:42 PM

Title: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:06:42 PM
Nigel and I would like to welcome you all to America, even if you've lived here your whole life.  Why?  Because we know America, and you don't.  We were there when they let people like Reagan and Richard Nixon run loose, and we saw the last moments of American glory that ended with the demise of the Apollo program.  We saw the rules change, we understand the nuts and bolts of America, we've read the schematic and helped write the operating manual.

Not that anyone read it, of course, or even changed the oil.  This is of course why we can't have nice things.

I mean, you don't think we've bunkered-in in places like Portland and Tucson for nothing, right?  They are horrible towns that want us all dead, but - maybe because of that, these towns still know how to have a good time.  From these safe havens, we watched our enemies grow strong on what we'd left behind.

But what of it?  It's really hard to be happy without a fight, and picking on the hapless dems and their glassy-eyed followers was like punting a retarded child.   Makes a horrible noise, and just isn't a challenge.

But now the yahoos are back, and I love them.  They spazz out at the drop of a hat...Or, for that matter, the drop of the enormous butt-lumber I left on their local office door stoop last night, in a frenzy of joy.  I had eaten turkey meatloaf, and the embedded bits of corn and peas made my offering look appropriately festive.

You should love them, too, in the same way a U-Boat commander loved to see a merchantman drop out of a convoy with engine trouble.  It's hard to explain the predatory grin that remains plastered on my face at all times.  You can actually see my molars.  All of them.

Nigel and some of the other older generation here will know precisely what I mean.  We loved Richard Nixon in his retirement, and we loved to hate him.  He was at the same time a monster and a warrior.  He knew why we hated him, and he didn't care, unlike this weak creature that we have now.  Nixon did what HE thought was right, and we wound up with things like clean air and water, OSHA, and that Watergate thing.  He wasn't really an evil man, just paranoid.  Some people said he just loved too much, and I suspect they might be right.

He also set the stage for the architect of modern America, Ronald Reagan.  Reagan was a hideous old man, and everything he did was filthy and wrong, and he left a trail of slime on the rug that caused the White House cleaning staff to call a hazmat team...But he did teach us not to trust the government, though - true to form - the American public mis-applied the lesson and now we have Sarah Palin humping our legs.  In this morning's meeting, all the other supervisors were gushing about how she'd "be ready in 2016".  

Horrible, horrible.

George Bush (41) knew that Reagan was nuttier than a shithouse rat (The same opinion he's offered on the teabaggers), but he got distracted by Desert Storm and Operation Just BeCause, and never really did much about it.  Clinton and Bush (43) basically continued Reagan's demented policies, and Obama...Well, Obama just grins a lot, as if he knows the punch line and you don't.  And now the teabaggers.

Can anyone blame me for expressing my admiration in a scatological manner?  I merely wished to convey my respect for them as an enemy.  

And this new America that the teabaggers promise us...Why, it's going to be the most fertile ground to recruit new freaks that we've seen since George 43 publicly castrated himself in the summer of 2008.  Are we ready to take advantage of this?  We'd better be...If we can't make this the funniest period in American history (with the exception of HUAC), then we should just admit that we're Facebook for Nerds and be done with it.

So I say unto you:  In the next 60 days, each of you should try to recruit 2 new Discordians.  It doesn't matter if they come to PD or not, just get them active.  That will keep YOU active.  Then try to get THEM to recruit 2 new people, while you go on to recruit one additional person per 2-3 months.  

Then DO STUFF.  Go nuts with propaganda, try to photobomb rallies, try to get in the local news, wrench up your local government.  Post your exploits as "ideas" to keep in line with the KYFMS rule.

There's no time to sit still and post observations about the stupid monkeys that surround us.  We must ACT, we must PUNISH THE MONKEYS.  WE MUST ALL DO SOMETHING GROTESQUE BEFORE WE DIE!  ERIS DEMANDS IT!

AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Or Kill Me.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 05, 2010, 04:15:09 PM
2 Discordians, 2 months. I'm in.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 05, 2010, 04:22:20 PM
Actually, quick question-

Do they actually have to become 2 Discordians, or do they have to be people willing to help me out with Discordian projects?
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Epimetheus on November 05, 2010, 04:23:30 PM
Fuck, man. You sure can inspire (negatively and positively). I'm in.

Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 05, 2010, 04:22:20 PM
Do they actually have to become 2 Discordians, or do they have to be people willing to help me out with Discordian projects?
I don't think there's any important difference. Except that they gotta go on and do their own shit too.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 05, 2010, 04:24:40 PM
Then, I probably already have convert 1 just waiting- my drummer.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:26:34 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on November 05, 2010, 04:18:25 PM
Fuck, man. You sure can inspire (negatively and positively). I'm in.

There's a time to stick apart, and a time to glob up in a big ball of wrath and go stompin'.

It's fucking Friday, right?  There's no time like the present.  Go chat people up (I will post some suggested methods, but that part is really on you.  You're going to fail more often that succeed...It's a matter of numbers).  

Then you need to spend a week dreaming up things to do.  Then spend next weekend DOING THEM.  I realize that not everyone can afford to burn 1500 color copies on crack n peel paper, but sharpies are cheap, and easier to explain than spray cans or paint sticks.

IMPROVE things.  Look at the advertisements and signage around you, and ask yourself "How could I tighten that up just a bit?".

Find your local teabaggers, American Legion, etc, and find ways to fuck with them.  Join up, for that matter, and try to subvert them (Note:  Leave the Moose Lodge alone.  They run orphanages and never bother anyone.)

2 Discordians, 2 months.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:30:08 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on November 05, 2010, 04:23:30 PM
Fuck, man. You sure can inspire (negatively and positively). I am so down.

Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 05, 2010, 04:22:20 PM
Do they actually have to become 2 Discordians, or do they have to be people willing to help me out with Discordian projects?
I don't think there's any important difference. Except that they gotta go on and do their own shit too.

This.

If they're willing to go do shit, then they ARE Discordians.

The best part about selling Discordianism is that we don't demand that anyone actually worship anything.  You can be a Christian and still be a Discordian.  I bill it as "The AFLAK of religions".  Christians, etc, worry about what happens to you when you die, we worry about what happens to you while you're here.

Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Cramulus on November 05, 2010, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:26:34 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on November 05, 2010, 04:18:25 PM
Fuck, man. You sure can inspire (negatively and positively). I'm in.

There's a time to stick apart, and a time to glob up in a big ball of wrath and go stompin'.

It's fucking Friday, right?  There's no time like the present.  Go chat people up (I will post some suggested methods, but that part is really on you.  You're going to fail more often that succeed...It's a matter of numbers).  

Then you need to spend a week dreaming up things to do.  Then spend next weekend DOING THEM.  I realize that not everyone can afford to burn 1500 color copies on crack n peel paper, but sharpies are cheap, and easier to explain than spray cans or paint sticks.

IMPROVE things.  Look at the advertisements and signage around you, and ask yourself "How could I tighten that up just a bit?".

Find your local teabaggers, American Legion, etc, and find ways to fuck with them.  Join up, for that matter, and try to subvert them (Note:  Leave the Moose Lodge alone.  They run orphanages and never bother anyone.)

2 Discordians, 2 months.

:mittens:
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on November 05, 2010, 04:32:06 PM
You realize that in trying to covert them I out myself and will be busted for untold incidents of hilarity which may have only been funny to me.....   :lulz:

On another note, I have one potential convert I have been working on all football season, I'll have to step up my game.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Richter on November 05, 2010, 04:32:19 PM
Mission Accepted.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Cuddlefish on November 05, 2010, 04:32:48 PM
I can do this.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Cuddlefish on November 05, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:26:34 PM

There's a time to stick apart, and a time to glob up in a big ball of wrath and go stompin'.


I've been feeling this.

Quote from: Richter on November 05, 2010, 04:32:19 PM

Mission Accepted.


We have a presence here. In RI alone, there's a handful of us. I have other friends that would probably lend a hand if the concept was good. And hell, we also have people like EoC and Cram practicaly right around the corner. We have no excuses. We should be on the news within two months.

-dimo-
to the fucking wall
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefist on November 05, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:26:34 PM

There's a time to stick apart, and a time to glob up in a big ball of wrath and go stompin'.


I've been feeling this.

Quote from: Richter on November 05, 2010, 04:32:19 PM

Mission Accepted.


We have a presence here. In RI alone, there's a handful of us. I have other friends that would probably lend a hand if the concept was good. And hell, we also have people like EoC and Cram practicaly right around the corner. We have no excuses. We should be on the news within two months.

-dimo-
to the fucking wall

Remember, though:  It's hard to have a good time in jail.  Have fun, but be careful.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 05, 2010, 04:41:11 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:30:08 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on November 05, 2010, 04:23:30 PM
Fuck, man. You sure can inspire (negatively and positively). I am so down.

Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 05, 2010, 04:22:20 PM
Do they actually have to become 2 Discordians, or do they have to be people willing to help me out with Discordian projects?
I don't think there's any important difference. Except that they gotta go on and do their own shit too.

This.

If they're willing to go do shit, then they ARE Discordians.

The best part about selling Discordianism is that we don't demand that anyone actually worship anything.  You can be a Christian and still be a Discordian.  I bill it as "The AFLAK of religions".  Christians, etc, worry about what happens to you when you die, we worry about what happens to you while you're here.



Gotcha- Buttons seems a bit uninterested in things that have religious trappings. Though, that said, he became a minister in one of those hand out minister credentials like candy websites for the fuck of it, and I'm sure he'll get a huge kick out of being a card carrying Pope. Actually, Pope cards might be a good in for some people I know. They'll find it amusing and accept them, but will likely ask about them.

He's always up for a bit of mischief and fun though, so he's a good target. He and the rest of my band helped me out with an EggGASM at a St. Paddy's party, mostly for shits and giggles. He found some really good hiding places. I'm wondering if they're still finding eggs, though the humor was lost on the hosts (one of them suggested that whoever wrote them was either gay or a woman due to the neatness of handwriting).
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Cuddlefish on November 05, 2010, 04:46:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefist on November 05, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:26:34 PM

There's a time to stick apart, and a time to glob up in a big ball of wrath and go stompin'.


I've been feeling this.

Quote from: Richter on November 05, 2010, 04:32:19 PM

Mission Accepted.


We have a presence here. In RI alone, there's a handful of us. I have other friends that would probably lend a hand if the concept was good. And hell, we also have people like EoC and Cram practicaly right around the corner. We have no excuses. We should be on the news within two months.

-dimo-
to the fucking wall

Remember, though:  It's hard to have a good time in jail.  Have fun, but be careful.

True, and agreed. However, I'd be willing to take the trip if it was worth it. We could use a martyr or two.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Richter on November 05, 2010, 05:10:27 PM
A very careful, planned martyr with bail, legal counsel, and sympathetic press contacts ready to go.

You're right on Dimo.  We all know folks who are up for weird fun, we just need to get them into it. 
"Improving" various adds outside around the city, especially the anti abortion ones at Planned Parenthood is my first idea.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 05:12:15 PM
I think it's time we started posting pics of the hilarity (voluntary, of course), though perhaps we should create a null account to do so.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 05, 2010, 05:50:40 PM

And they will wake up screaming.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Cuddlefish on November 05, 2010, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: Richter on November 05, 2010, 05:10:27 PM
A very careful, planned martyr with bail, legal counsel, and sympathetic press contacts ready to go.

This, you mind-reading bastard.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Reginald Ret on November 05, 2010, 06:06:41 PM
Am i doing this null account thingy right?
acc: Hivemind
Pass: Password
Still waiting for approval (since when is that required?)

Note to legal peoples trying to use this to screw me over: fuck you, i'm not afraid of anything you can do to me.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 06:08:08 PM
Quote from: Regret on November 05, 2010, 06:06:41 PM
Am i doing this null account thingy right?
acc: Hivemind
Pass: Password
Still waiting for approval (since when is that required?)

Note to legal peoples trying to use this to screw me over: fuck you, i'm not afraid of anything you can do to me.

Yep.  I approved it.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on November 05, 2010, 06:23:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:06:42 PMBut what of it?  It's really hard to be happy without a fight, and picking on the hapless dems and their glassy-eyed followers was like punting a retarded child.   Makes a horrible noise, and just isn't a challenge.

But now the yahoos are back, and I love them.  They spazz out at the drop of a hat...Or, for that matter, the drop of the enormous butt-lumber I left on their local office door stoop last night, in a frenzy of joy.  I had eaten turkey meatloaf, and the embedded bits of corn and peas made my offering look appropriately festive.
I was trying to figure out why it is that I enjoy making fun of Republicans so much more than I enjoy making fun of Democrats, even though even though I find them equally absurd, but that's it.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:26:34 PMIt's fucking Friday, right?  There's no time like the present
You are going to LOVE my excuse as to why I can't get started today.



My family has tickets and we are all going to go see "America's Got Talent" live tonight.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 06:34:46 PM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on November 05, 2010, 06:23:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:06:42 PMBut what of it?  It's really hard to be happy without a fight, and picking on the hapless dems and their glassy-eyed followers was like punting a retarded child.   Makes a horrible noise, and just isn't a challenge.

But now the yahoos are back, and I love them.  They spazz out at the drop of a hat...Or, for that matter, the drop of the enormous butt-lumber I left on their local office door stoop last night, in a frenzy of joy.  I had eaten turkey meatloaf, and the embedded bits of corn and peas made my offering look appropriately festive.
I was trying to figure out why it is that I enjoy making fun of Republicans so much more than I enjoy making fun of Democrats, even though even though I find them equally absurd, but that's it.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:26:34 PMIt's fucking Friday, right?  There's no time like the present
You are going to LOVE my excuse as to why I can't get started today.



My family has tickets and we are all going to go see "America's Got Talent" live tonight.

...

...

...
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Juana on November 05, 2010, 06:43:10 PM
I'm in.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Remington on November 05, 2010, 07:42:13 PM
It shall be done.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 05, 2010, 08:11:34 PM
Already got a potential recruit. Hoping to convert a teacher sometime soon.

I'm trying to come up with some things I can do that are tailor made for a small town.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: President Television on November 06, 2010, 01:03:50 AM
I'm pumped now. I'm not expecting any success, seeing as everyone I meet is creeped out by me and wants nothing to do with me, but I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Phox on November 06, 2010, 02:22:24 AM
I accept your challenge.

Convert count:11/2. Monday we begin a GASM.  Will send pictures.  :lulz:



Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 06, 2010, 02:48:22 AM
I am not sure how to count "converts". Bloody stumps or worshipful entourage?
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Remington on November 06, 2010, 02:49:51 AM
If I convert a young-earth Creationist, do I get double points?
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 06, 2010, 02:58:00 AM
Quote from: Remington on November 06, 2010, 02:49:51 AM
If I convert a young-earth Creationist, do I get double points?

For a second I thought you said "a double penis".
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Phox on November 06, 2010, 03:11:49 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 06, 2010, 02:58:00 AM
Quote from: Remington on November 06, 2010, 02:49:51 AM
If I convert a young-earth Creationist, do I get double points?

For a second I thought you said "a double penis".
:fap: :fap: :fap:
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Remington on November 06, 2010, 03:55:44 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on November 06, 2010, 02:58:00 AM
Quote from: Remington on November 06, 2010, 02:49:51 AM
If I convert a young-earth Creationist, do I get double points?

For a second I thought you said "a double penis".
PROOF OF EVOLUTION

CHECK AND MATE
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Juana on November 06, 2010, 04:27:00 AM
I just roped my favorite Mormon into this. He says he'll do the best he can, and will try to subvert his missionary companions. I love this guy.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 06, 2010, 05:12:05 AM
Latter Discordian Saints? Man, that's awesome!
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Don Coyote on November 06, 2010, 05:17:30 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on November 06, 2010, 04:27:00 AM
I just roped my favorite Mormon into this. He says he'll do the best he can, and will try to subvert his missionary companions. I love this guy.  :lulz:

OH
MY
GODS

:lulz: :lulz: :fap:
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Triple Zero on November 06, 2010, 02:26:08 PM
Quote from: Remington on November 06, 2010, 02:49:51 AM
If I convert a young-earth Creationist, do I get double points?

TRIPLE, no QUINTUPLE POINTS!!!!
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Cuddlefish on November 06, 2010, 07:47:57 PM
My bass player texted me.

Parker: Want to do something?

Me: Sure. What?

Parker: IDK, spread propaganda or drink something.

Me:  :evil:
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 06, 2010, 08:17:29 PM
I'm guessing that you and Parker are opting for a little bit of both  :D

I did a little bit of recon today to see what ideas I could come up with and implement. Man, I'm glad I bought that little memo book. Mostly today I think I'm going to be planning/possibly recruiting, then heading over to the gf's and see how she's feeling. But, I've got some eggs that I can drop in choice areas on the way there.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:06:42 PM

There's no time to sit still and post observations about the stupid monkeys that surround us.  We must ACT, we must PUNISH THE MONKEYS.  WE MUST ALL DO SOMETHING GROTESQUE BEFORE WE DIE!  ERIS DEMANDS IT!

AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Or Kill Me.


:banana:

I'M ON IT!
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 07, 2010, 06:51:51 PM
Two converts.   :evil:
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2010, 07:54:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 07, 2010, 06:51:51 PM
Two converts.   :evil:

Really?  And have you accomplished anything with your new converts?
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 07, 2010, 08:30:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2010, 07:54:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 07, 2010, 06:51:51 PM
Two converts.   :evil:

Really?  And have you accomplished anything with your new converts?

Not yet, working on it.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Salty on November 07, 2010, 09:35:30 PM
I've got one potential and mining for another.
The last thing I did was great fun but I'd like something with a bit more bite next.
Something silently horrible.

Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 08, 2010, 10:00:45 PM
I'm going to approach one of my possible recruits tomorrow about participating in some Mindfuckery. So fingers crossed.

I'm also printing out Pope Cards right now. And I've got some poster ideas I'm going to do later this week.

Anyone have any ideas on how I should approach Operation MindFuck in regards to a small redneck town?
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 09, 2010, 02:25:31 AM
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on November 08, 2010, 10:00:45 PM
I'm going to approach one of my possible recruits tomorrow about participating in some Mindfuckery. So fingers crossed.

I'm also printing out Pope Cards right now. And I've got some poster ideas I'm going to do later this week.

Anyone have any ideas on how I should approach Operation MindFuck in regards to a small redneck town?

Carefully.

But you shouldn't actually have much difficulty.  The problem with small towns is that they're BORING, which is why there's more crime per capita than you have in a large city.

If you tailor your propaganda for the personality of your town, you shouldn't have much trouble.  If you tell me more about the town, I could maybe give you some hints.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 09, 2010, 03:03:31 AM
Quote
Carefully.

But you shouldn't actually have much difficulty.  The problem with small towns is that they're BORING, which is why there's more crime per capita than you have in a large city.

If you tailor your propaganda for the personality of your town, you shouldn't have much trouble.  If you tell me more about the town, I could maybe give you some hints.

Pennsylvania redneck town, which means lots of fishing and hunting. The town is pretty Republican dominated, and Obama is almost universally hated, but opinions on the Tea Party are relatively mixed. Despite this, at least among the town's youth, political apathy is the rule rather than the exception. Rather diverse religiously, at least within the Christian spectrum.

Racism is based around hatred of Latinos (which has been exacerbated by the recent arrival of migrant workers) , with the remainder hovering vaguely between anti-Islamic and anti-Semitic ideas. Musically, things are mostly dominated by country, which among teens is rivaled by screamo and rap.

The town is very bitter, having been hit by the Repression a couple years before the rest of the country, thanks to Adelphia. Their is a lot of resentment against Welfare and people on Welfare (called Welfare Rats). Among kids this is frighteningly evident. This area (and this town in particular) has the highest numbers of teenage pregnancy and STDs in the state.

Most kids rebel by throwing themselves into binge drinking and hard drugs. Flirting is built upon the idea that if a guy insults and demeans you, then he really cares for you. There is a high tendency for atheism among teens, which is more a result of general hopelessness than a conscious decision that there is no god.

That's about the gist of it. I could go on, but this is the main idea of the place.

EDIT: Split up the thing so that its not just two big blocks of text.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 09, 2010, 03:10:50 AM
I'm thinking a "THEY DID THIS TO YOU" posterfest.

Have fun with who THEY are.  Spread the blame around a bit.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 09, 2010, 03:15:11 AM
Hmm. I like that. There are a fair number of people I could throw blame at. The local government, Adelphia, the local School system, etc.

I was also thinking of something playing off the kid's nihilism and wallowing in the town's filth. This town is FILLED with misplaced and/or buried rage and hopelessness.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 09, 2010, 03:20:55 AM
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on November 09, 2010, 03:15:11 AM
Hmm. I like that. There are a fair number of people I could throw blame at. The local government, Adelphia, the local School system, etc.


The American Legion, their parents, etc.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 09, 2010, 03:28:28 AM
QuoteThe American Legion, their parents, etc.

Exactly! Ya, I've got some ideas. Have various groups pointing fingers at each other. The American Legion blaming the School, the School blaming parents, the parents blaming local government, and around and around we go.

Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 09, 2010, 03:29:54 AM
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on November 09, 2010, 03:28:28 AM
QuoteThe American Legion, their parents, etc.

Exactly! Ya, I've got some ideas. Have various groups pointing fingers at each other. The American Legion blaming the School, the School blaming parents, the parents blaming local government, and around and around we go.



The American Legion deserves everything you throw at them.  If there was ever an example of everything that went wrong with America, it's them.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 09, 2010, 03:35:29 AM
QuoteThe American Legion deserves everything you throw at them.  If there was ever an example of everything that went wrong with America, it's them.

Primary target acquired. Time to acquaint myself with the local American Legion. We've also recently had a new Sheetz move into town, even though we already have one. Of course this one is bigger, so that's okay. They bulldozed a hotel that had been in almost since the town's founding to make room for it, while the old Sheetz is going to be closed and left to rot.

Secondary Target acquired.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 09, 2010, 03:37:20 AM
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on November 09, 2010, 03:35:29 AM
QuoteThe American Legion deserves everything you throw at them.  If there was ever an example of everything that went wrong with America, it's them.

Primary target acquired. Time to acquaint myself with the local American Legion. We've also recently had a new Sheetz move into town, even though we already have one. Of course this one is bigger, so that's okay. They bulldozed a hotel that had been in almost since the town's founding to make room for it, while the old Sheetz is going to be closed and left to rot.

Secondary Target acquired.

What's a Sheetz?
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 09, 2010, 03:41:35 AM
QuoteWhat's a Sheetz?

Sheetz is a East Coast fast food/general store chain which has been spreading like the love child of a wildfire and cancer through Appalachia. It's boosted the local economy, but also taken advantage of this to push the local government around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetz)
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Phox on November 09, 2010, 03:54:16 AM
I stopped at a Sheetz in Ohio when I went to Erie this summer. It was rather forgettable.

So, I have one full convert and two maybes now. We put up a couple posters, but haven't done anything truly worthy of mention yet.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Epimetheus on November 09, 2010, 05:11:21 AM
Still have to find the people. I guess I just gotta talk to everyone I see until I can smell TEH SHITHATE in them.

QuoteWE MUST ALL DO SOMETHING GROTESQUE BEFORE WE DIE!

gawd I love this. Yo Roger, what's your policy on stealing your words? Attribution non-commercial?
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 09, 2010, 05:12:35 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on November 09, 2010, 05:11:21 AM
Still have to find the people. I guess I just gotta talk to everyone I see until I can smell TEH SHITHATE in them.

QuoteWE MUST ALL DO SOMETHING GROTESQUE BEFORE WE DIE!

gawd I love this. Yo Roger, what's your policy on stealing your words? Attribution non-commercial?

That's the standard.  Other things can be negotiated.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 11, 2010, 03:28:13 AM
So, my recruitment was a success, and this weekend I'm going to start working on posters. Hell yes!

And I've been seeding the school with pope cards. Slipping them into lockers, purses, pockets, you name it. Haven't really been noticed much, but I'm building up speed. They'll be finding these things all year long.

Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 14, 2010, 08:34:23 PM
Bump. Just finished my first couple posters. Will get with my recruit and put them up around town sometime this week.

(http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g334/Doctor_James_Semaj/untitled.jpg?t=1289766702)

(http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g334/Doctor_James_Semaj/Noose.jpg?t=1289766702)

Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2010, 08:34:54 PM
NICE

YOINKED!
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 14, 2010, 08:37:07 PM
QuoteNICE

YOINKED!

Thanks. Going to make more of these all week. Should have some up in town by this weekend, everything works out.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Phox on November 14, 2010, 08:37:47 PM
Also yoinked. Death and I will put some of these up when the school week starts.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2010, 08:37:56 PM
Some oldies that are worth rehashing.

(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/horrormirth1.jpg)

(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/richoldman1a.jpg)

(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr126/TGRR/ruinslaugh.jpg)
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 14, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
Right. Using these, especially the first one.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Phox on November 14, 2010, 08:42:48 PM
Indeed. Yoinked for future plastering.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Cramulus on November 15, 2010, 05:25:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on November 14, 2010, 08:34:23 PM
Bump. Just finished my first couple posters. Will get with my recruit and put them up around town sometime this week.

(http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g334/Doctor_James_Semaj/untitled.jpg?t=1289766702)

(http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g334/Doctor_James_Semaj/Noose.jpg?t=1289766702)



good pairing of words + images

I think they'd be more effective with some style changes though.

The text in the first image is hard to read because you're using black on a relatively dark background. White text with a black border might work better, ala roflbot

The text in the second one would be easier to read if it was separated from the eagle's head


the second one is also pretty straight forward "both parties are bad" -- personally I think you need some additional info in order to make this a motivator and not just a piece of commentary. In contrast, the first image suggests how an individual should relate to the changes happening in society and is therefore more effective.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Triple Zero on November 15, 2010, 05:35:15 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 15, 2010, 05:25:17 PM
The text in the first image is hard to read because you're using black on a relatively dark background. White text with a black border might work better, ala roflbot

The text in the second one would be easier to read if it was separated from the eagle's head

I agree with these points. Especially in print, contrast can suddenly turn out quite different from how it looks on the screen.

The first text might just (partly) disappear into darkness, unless your copy-shop's printer is really fancy, and even then, from a distance the text should still pop into vision (otherwise it gets drowned in the cosmic advertising background noise).

Do you have a link to the original of the city picture? I might have a go at it tomorrow.



The text on the eagle picture is, I'm afraid, 80% likely to become unreadable, except when examined up close. I agree with Cram, place the text below the eagle. But also make the letters about twice as big (they should be able to nearly fill out the with of the poster).

Quotethe second one is also pretty straight forward "both parties are bad" -- personally I think you need some additional info in order to make this a motivator and not just a piece of commentary. In contrast, the first image suggests how an individual should relate to the changes happening in society and is therefore more effective.

Good point, you could add this in a smaller font below the big catchline, for instance. Possibly in a different (but neutral) colour.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Death on November 15, 2010, 05:36:53 PM
Quote from: Phox on November 14, 2010, 08:37:47 PM
Also yoinked. Death and I will put some of these up when the school week starts.  :lulz:
You betchur booties we will :D Right up over those fratboy purple and yellow papers.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 15, 2010, 09:15:01 PM
Okay, I made some alterations based on Cram and Trip's suggestions.

Here they are

(http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g334/Doctor_James_Semaj/Desolation2.jpg?t=1289855623)

and

(http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g334/Doctor_James_Semaj/Noose2.jpg?t=1289855623)
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Cramulus on November 15, 2010, 09:32:37 PM
much better! Clearer and more attention grabbing.  :mrgreen:

second one is much more evocative and motivational than the previous "we're fucked!" message
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Wizard on November 15, 2010, 09:39:40 PM
Quotemuch better! Clearer and more attention grabbing.  Green smile

second one is much more evocative and motivational than the previous "we're fucked!" message

Thanks! Going to make more tomorrow, print them out and give some to my recruit.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2010, 09:40:50 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 15, 2010, 09:32:37 PM
much better! Clearer and more attention grabbing.  :mrgreen:

second one is much more evocative and motivational than the previous "we're fucked!" message

I think you're needlessly dismissive of hopeless pessimism.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: LMNO on November 19, 2010, 01:15:58 PM
Ok, so it seems that my guitarist might be open to ideas.  He's familiar with the Gurdjieff theory that the majority of how we act could be considered "sleeping".

I'm gonna try to hit him up with some literature, see what happens.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Phox on November 23, 2010, 06:12:01 AM
Finally got around to uploading this. And by got around to, I mean remembered to do so. Death with the one poster we put up that survived a week.
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5552/deathwithaposter.th.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/deathwithaposter.jpg/)

Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on November 23, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
Fucking figures that I missed this entirely :x

I've only got a month and change! What to do, what to do.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Epimetheus on November 24, 2010, 06:23:17 AM
Shit. I slacked off in this - forgot. OK, PEOPLE, YOU ARE BECOMING ERISIAN WARRIORS WHETHER YUO LIKE IT OR NOT!
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Don Coyote on November 24, 2010, 06:50:37 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on November 24, 2010, 06:23:17 AM
Shit. I slacked off in this - forgot. OK, PEOPLE, YOU ARE BECOMING ERISIAN WARRIORS WHETHER YUO LIKE IT OR NOT!
Coyote disagrees.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Epimetheus on November 24, 2010, 06:59:32 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 24, 2010, 06:50:37 AM
Coyote disagrees.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT DAMN COYOTE! Which by the way, is pronounced Kye-oat.

I learned that from a Robin Williams-narrated Pecos Bill story on CD which I listened to as a child way too often for any lad's health.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 24, 2010, 07:12:50 AM
Something amazing happened in this thread while I wasn't paying attention.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Cuddlefish on December 09, 2010, 04:12:33 AM
I think I snagged one today. Good kid from my modern lit. class who wrote a decent piece on TSA for the campus paper. We'll see if it pans out.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Suu on December 09, 2010, 04:19:55 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on November 24, 2010, 06:59:32 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 24, 2010, 06:50:37 AM
Coyote disagrees.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT DAMN COYOTE! Which by the way, is pronounced Kye-oat.

I learned that from a Robin Williams-narrated Pecos Bill story on CD which I listened to as a child way too often for any lad's health.

It's Kye-Oat-EE you fucking Yankee.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Epimetheus on December 09, 2010, 04:31:25 AM
Quote from: Suu on December 09, 2010, 04:19:55 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on November 24, 2010, 06:59:32 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 24, 2010, 06:50:37 AM
Coyote disagrees.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT DAMN COYOTE! Which by the way, is pronounced Kye-oat.

I learned that from a Robin Williams-narrated Pecos Bill story on CD which I listened to as a child way too often for any lad's health.

It's Kye-Oat-EE you fucking Yankee.

Yeah, we actually do pronounce it kye-oat-ee. I was make joke.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Suu on December 09, 2010, 04:37:01 AM
I know...And both pronunciations are correct. I just feel weird saying "Kye-oat", and it seems more prevalent here in the North than it did down yonder.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 09, 2010, 06:11:35 AM
I think I was 16 before I knew you pronounced the e. Damn Northwesterners.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Jasper on December 09, 2010, 08:38:36 PM
Reading those last few posts made me realize how similar Coyote and Quixote can sound.

Hm.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: hooplala on December 09, 2010, 08:45:35 PM
This could be complete fiction, but I seem to recall reading or hearing somewhere that the "Kai-oat" pronunciation dominated until the Wile E. Coyote cartoons became popular.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: hooplala on December 09, 2010, 08:48:49 PM
Not that Wikipedia is the last word on any subject, but it does back up my story, which I had suddenly feared I had made up whole cloth:

QuoteBy far the best known representation is the animated Wile E. Coyote, whose popularity has spread the three-syllable Spanish pronunciation of the word coyote throughout English-speaking North America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote#Contemporary_cultural_references (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote#Contemporary_cultural_references)


Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Juana on December 10, 2010, 08:04:52 PM
Meh. I still say Kai-oat most of the time.


I really need to get on this. I have about three-ish weeks between finals and the new semester, which is also during Christmas. Gonna get on that Wal Mart troll.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: President Television on December 11, 2010, 07:18:38 PM
I've managed to convert a friend of mine to the Church of the Subgenius. I've recently gotten a job, and see a potential avenue for recruitment there too. Regardless, I'll try to talk my current convert into spreading the good word. I don't think he'll take issue with it.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 11, 2011, 05:55:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:06:42 PM
Nigel and I would like to welcome you all to America, even if you've lived here your whole life.  Why?  Because we know America, and you don't.  We were there when they let people like Reagan and Richard Nixon run loose, and we saw the last moments of American glory that ended with the demise of the Apollo program.  We saw the rules change, we understand the nuts and bolts of America, we've read the schematic and helped write the operating manual.

Not that anyone read it, of course, or even changed the oil.  This is of course why we can't have nice things.

I mean, you don't think we've bunkered-in in places like Portland and Tucson for nothing, right?  They are horrible towns that want us all dead, but - maybe because of that, these towns still know how to have a good time.  From these safe havens, we watched our enemies grow strong on what we'd left behind.

But what of it?  It's really hard to be happy without a fight, and picking on the hapless dems and their glassy-eyed followers was like punting a retarded child.   Makes a horrible noise, and just isn't a challenge.

But now the yahoos are back, and I love them.  They spazz out at the drop of a hat...Or, for that matter, the drop of the enormous butt-lumber I left on their local office door stoop last night, in a frenzy of joy.  I had eaten turkey meatloaf, and the embedded bits of corn and peas made my offering look appropriately festive.

You should love them, too, in the same way a U-Boat commander loved to see a merchantman drop out of a convoy with engine trouble.  It's hard to explain the predatory grin that remains plastered on my face at all times.  You can actually see my molars.  All of them.

Nigel and some of the other older generation here will know precisely what I mean.  We loved Richard Nixon in his retirement, and we loved to hate him.  He was at the same time a monster and a warrior.  He knew why we hated him, and he didn't care, unlike this weak creature that we have now.  Nixon did what HE thought was right, and we wound up with things like clean air and water, OSHA, and that Watergate thing.  He wasn't really an evil man, just paranoid.  Some people said he just loved too much, and I suspect they might be right.

He also set the stage for the architect of modern America, Ronald Reagan.  Reagan was a hideous old man, and everything he did was filthy and wrong, and he left a trail of slime on the rug that caused the White House cleaning staff to call a hazmat team...But he did teach us not to trust the government, though - true to form - the American public mis-applied the lesson and now we have Sarah Palin humping our legs.  In this morning's meeting, all the other supervisors were gushing about how she'd "be ready in 2016".  

Horrible, horrible.

George Bush (41) knew that Reagan was nuttier than a shithouse rat (The same opinion he's offered on the teabaggers), but he got distracted by Desert Storm and Operation Just BeCause, and never really did much about it.  Clinton and Bush (43) basically continued Reagan's demented policies, and Obama...Well, Obama just grins a lot, as if he knows the punch line and you don't.  And now the teabaggers.

Can anyone blame me for expressing my admiration in a scatological manner?  I merely wished to convey my respect for them as an enemy.  

And this new America that the teabaggers promise us...Why, it's going to be the most fertile ground to recruit new freaks that we've seen since George 43 publicly castrated himself in the summer of 2008.  Are we ready to take advantage of this?  We'd better be...If we can't make this the funniest period in American history (with the exception of HUAC), then we should just admit that we're Facebook for Nerds and be done with it.

So I say unto you:  In the next 60 days, each of you should try to recruit 2 new Discordians.  It doesn't matter if they come to PD or not, just get them active.  That will keep YOU active.  Then try to get THEM to recruit 2 new people, while you go on to recruit one additional person per 2-3 months.  

Then DO STUFF.  Go nuts with propaganda, try to photobomb rallies, try to get in the local news, wrench up your local government.  Post your exploits as "ideas" to keep in line with the KYFMS rule.

There's no time to sit still and post observations about the stupid monkeys that surround us.  We must ACT, we must PUNISH THE MONKEYS.  WE MUST ALL DO SOMETHING GROTESQUE BEFORE WE DIE!  ERIS DEMANDS IT!

AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Or Kill Me.


Bump for Nigel.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 11, 2011, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 11, 2011, 05:55:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2010, 04:06:42 PM
Nigel and I would like to welcome you all to America, even if you've lived here your whole life.  Why?  Because we know America, and you don't.  We were there when they let people like Reagan and Richard Nixon run loose, and we saw the last moments of American glory that ended with the demise of the Apollo program.  We saw the rules change, we understand the nuts and bolts of America, we've read the schematic and helped write the operating manual.

Not that anyone read it, of course, or even changed the oil.  This is of course why we can't have nice things.

I mean, you don't think we've bunkered-in in places like Portland and Tucson for nothing, right?  They are horrible towns that want us all dead, but - maybe because of that, these towns still know how to have a good time.  From these safe havens, we watched our enemies grow strong on what we'd left behind.

But what of it?  It's really hard to be happy without a fight, and picking on the hapless dems and their glassy-eyed followers was like punting a retarded child.   Makes a horrible noise, and just isn't a challenge.

But now the yahoos are back, and I love them.  They spazz out at the drop of a hat...Or, for that matter, the drop of the enormous butt-lumber I left on their local office door stoop last night, in a frenzy of joy.  I had eaten turkey meatloaf, and the embedded bits of corn and peas made my offering look appropriately festive.

You should love them, too, in the same way a U-Boat commander loved to see a merchantman drop out of a convoy with engine trouble.  It's hard to explain the predatory grin that remains plastered on my face at all times.  You can actually see my molars.  All of them.

Nigel and some of the other older generation here will know precisely what I mean.  We loved Richard Nixon in his retirement, and we loved to hate him.  He was at the same time a monster and a warrior.  He knew why we hated him, and he didn't care, unlike this weak creature that we have now.  Nixon did what HE thought was right, and we wound up with things like clean air and water, OSHA, and that Watergate thing.  He wasn't really an evil man, just paranoid.  Some people said he just loved too much, and I suspect they might be right.

He also set the stage for the architect of modern America, Ronald Reagan.  Reagan was a hideous old man, and everything he did was filthy and wrong, and he left a trail of slime on the rug that caused the White House cleaning staff to call a hazmat team...But he did teach us not to trust the government, though - true to form - the American public mis-applied the lesson and now we have Sarah Palin humping our legs.  In this morning's meeting, all the other supervisors were gushing about how she'd "be ready in 2016".  

Horrible, horrible.

George Bush (41) knew that Reagan was nuttier than a shithouse rat (The same opinion he's offered on the teabaggers), but he got distracted by Desert Storm and Operation Just BeCause, and never really did much about it.  Clinton and Bush (43) basically continued Reagan's demented policies, and Obama...Well, Obama just grins a lot, as if he knows the punch line and you don't.  And now the teabaggers.

Can anyone blame me for expressing my admiration in a scatological manner?  I merely wished to convey my respect for them as an enemy.  

And this new America that the teabaggers promise us...Why, it's going to be the most fertile ground to recruit new freaks that we've seen since George 43 publicly castrated himself in the summer of 2008.  Are we ready to take advantage of this?  We'd better be...If we can't make this the funniest period in American history (with the exception of HUAC), then we should just admit that we're Facebook for Nerds and be done with it.

So I say unto you:  In the next 60 days, each of you should try to recruit 2 new Discordians.  It doesn't matter if they come to PD or not, just get them active.  That will keep YOU active.  Then try to get THEM to recruit 2 new people, while you go on to recruit one additional person per 2-3 months.  

Then DO STUFF.  Go nuts with propaganda, try to photobomb rallies, try to get in the local news, wrench up your local government.  Post your exploits as "ideas" to keep in line with the KYFMS rule.

There's no time to sit still and post observations about the stupid monkeys that surround us.  We must ACT, we must PUNISH THE MONKEYS.  WE MUST ALL DO SOMETHING GROTESQUE BEFORE WE DIE!  ERIS DEMANDS IT!

AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Or Kill Me.


Bump for Nigel.


YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

:mittens:

This ship is doomed, and I want to light it on fire before it goes down.
Title: Re: Welcome to the USA
Post by: Luna on October 11, 2011, 06:57:44 PM
Hell, yeah.