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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 10, 2010, 10:27:37 PM

Title: Retracted.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 10, 2010, 10:27:37 PM
Former title:  Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.

But don't worry, Vex.  Tomorrow I may choose to feel better, and then that insult won't count.

Right?   :lulz:

QuoteI unconditionally retract the above post, with apologies.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 10, 2010, 10:38:30 PM
i love you roger, and i don't have to wait for you to feel better tomorrow because i already feel good today.

:)
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 10, 2010, 10:42:06 PM
Quote from: postvex™ on November 10, 2010, 10:38:30 PM
i love you roger, and i don't have to wait for you to feel better tomorrow because i already feel good today.

:)

Of course you feel better, Vex.  You hurt some people.  That always seems to give you a warm fuzzy feeling.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on November 10, 2010, 11:01:33 PM
Moving this to Apple Talk, if you don't have any objections. It's not exactly what I would call a rant.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 10, 2010, 11:06:30 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on November 10, 2010, 11:01:33 PM
Moving this to Apple Talk, if you don't have any objections. It's not exactly what I would call a rant.

:lulz:

It's the Reader's Digest Condensed Books version of Vex's "rant".

But no worries.  I made my point.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on November 11, 2010, 01:10:58 AM
We're all sociopaths here.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Don Coyote on November 11, 2010, 04:34:48 AM
Quote from: Grade 7 Pannus on November 11, 2010, 01:10:58 AM
We're all sociopaths here.

I'm not. :cry:
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 11, 2010, 05:53:49 AM
Huh, yeah, I'm gonna go with almost nobody here being a sociopath.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 11, 2010, 06:08:07 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 10, 2010, 10:42:06 PM
Quote from: postvex™ on November 10, 2010, 10:38:30 PM
i love you roger, and i don't have to wait for you to feel better tomorrow because i already feel good today.

:)

Of course you feel better, Vex.  You hurt some people.  That always seems to give you a warm fuzzy feeling.

depends on your definition of "people."
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Don Coyote on November 11, 2010, 06:08:55 AM
Quote from: postvex™ on November 11, 2010, 06:08:07 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 10, 2010, 10:42:06 PM
Quote from: postvex™ on November 10, 2010, 10:38:30 PM
i love you roger, and i don't have to wait for you to feel better tomorrow because i already feel good today.

:)

Of course you feel better, Vex.  You hurt some people.  That always seems to give you a warm fuzzy feeling.

depends on your definition of "people."

See we aren't people to him.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 11, 2010, 06:17:20 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 11, 2010, 06:08:55 AM
Quote from: postvex™ on November 11, 2010, 06:08:07 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 10, 2010, 10:42:06 PM
Quote from: postvex™ on November 10, 2010, 10:38:30 PM
i love you roger, and i don't have to wait for you to feel better tomorrow because i already feel good today.

:)

Of course you feel better, Vex.  You hurt some people.  That always seems to give you a warm fuzzy feeling.

depends on your definition of "people."

See we aren't people to him.

Inevitably, everything I say will be construed that way. I might as well play along.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Don Coyote on November 11, 2010, 06:20:49 AM
Quote from: postvex™ on November 11, 2010, 06:17:20 AM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on November 11, 2010, 06:08:55 AM
Quote from: postvex™ on November 11, 2010, 06:08:07 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 10, 2010, 10:42:06 PM
Quote from: postvex™ on November 10, 2010, 10:38:30 PM
i love you roger, and i don't have to wait for you to feel better tomorrow because i already feel good today.

:)

Of course you feel better, Vex.  You hurt some people.  That always seems to give you a warm fuzzy feeling.

depends on your definition of "people."

See we aren't people to him.

Inevitably, everything I say will be construed that way. I might as well play along.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify your behavior.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on November 11, 2010, 07:02:23 AM
Coyote, you really don't even have the slightest clue what you're talking about right now. Roger, for all that I feel he may be misrepresenting what Vex has said, at least has a years-long repoire with Vex and therefore has some sort of basis for his feelings on the matter. You appear to just be dogpiling on with the crowd and it might be wiser of you to shut the hell up and spit out your foot.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on November 11, 2010, 08:00:00 AM
Whatever's going on here is making me sneeze ferociously.
Please discontinue as this is very painful.


Thanks  :)



Oh wait, I think it's just these 5 million fucking cats in my god damned house!!!

continue.....
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Triple Zero on November 11, 2010, 10:14:50 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 11, 2010, 05:53:49 AM
Huh, yeah, I'm gonna go with almost nobody here being a sociopath.

Thank you. I wanted to post this the last time when people were calling eachother "sociopath" simply because somebody didn't act the way they wanted them to and the other replied "I don't care what you think", so maybe we can stop calling eachother "sociopaths" unless they actually are. However, looking at the list of symptoms and diagnosis, I'm pretty sure that an actual sociopath would do something to get themselves banned rather sooner than later.

Antisocial personality disorder
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  (Redirected from Sociopath)


Antisocial personality disorder (adyp or Atu) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual as "...a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood."[1]

Antisocial personality disorder is sometimes known as sociopathic personality disorder. It is also sometimes referred to as psychopathy or sociopathy. Some researchers believe that antisocial personality disorder and psychopathic personality are different conditions.

Signs and symptoms

Characteristics of people with antisocial personality disorder may include:
- Persistent lying or stealing
- Apparent lack of remorse[3] or empathy for others
- Cruelty to animals[4]
- Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper
- A history of childhood conduct disorder
- Recurring difficulties with the law
- Promiscuity
- Tendency to violate the boundaries and rights of others
- Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights
- Inability to tolerate boredom
- Disregard for right and wrong
- Poor or abusive relationships
- Irresponsible work behavior
- Disregard for safety

Diagnosis

DSM

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth edition, DSM IV-TR = 301.7, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines antisocial personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster B) as:[1]
A) There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring for as long as either childhood, or in the case of many who are influenced by environmental factors, around age 15, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
- deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
- impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
- irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
- reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
- consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;
- promiscuity;
- having shallow or seemingly nonexistent feelings.

New evidence points to the fact that children often develop Antisocial Personality Disorder as a cause of their environment, as well as their genetic line. The individual does not need to meet a certain age requirement in order to be diagnosed with this disorder.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Whatever on November 11, 2010, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 11, 2010, 10:14:50 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 11, 2010, 05:53:49 AM
Huh, yeah, I'm gonna go with almost nobody here being a sociopath.

Thank you. I wanted to post this the last time when people were calling eachother "sociopath" simply because somebody didn't act the way they wanted them to and the other replied "I don't care what you think", so maybe we can stop calling eachother "sociopaths" unless they actually are. However, looking at the list of symptoms and diagnosis, I'm pretty sure that an actual sociopath would do something to get themselves banned rather sooner than later.

Antisocial personality disorder
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  (Redirected from Sociopath)


Antisocial personality disorder (adyp or Atu) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual as "...a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood."[1]

Antisocial personality disorder is sometimes known as sociopathic personality disorder. It is also sometimes referred to as psychopathy or sociopathy. Some researchers believe that antisocial personality disorder and psychopathic personality are different conditions.

Signs and symptoms

Characteristics of people with antisocial personality disorder may include:
- Persistent lying or stealing
- Apparent lack of remorse[3] or empathy for others
- Cruelty to animals[4]
- Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper
- A history of childhood conduct disorder
- Recurring difficulties with the law
- Promiscuity
- Tendency to violate the boundaries and rights of others
- Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights
- Inability to tolerate boredom
- Disregard for right and wrong
- Poor or abusive relationships
- Irresponsible work behavior
- Disregard for safety

Diagnosis

DSM

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth edition, DSM IV-TR = 301.7, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines antisocial personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster B) as:[1]
A) There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring for as long as either childhood, or in the case of many who are influenced by environmental factors, around age 15, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
- deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
- impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
- irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
- reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
- consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;
- promiscuity;
- having shallow or seemingly nonexistent feelings.

New evidence points to the fact that children often develop Antisocial Personality Disorder as a cause of their environment, as well as their genetic line. The individual does not need to meet a certain age requirement in order to be diagnosed with this disorder.


Nice post.  And I totally appreciate your point.  Then I completely read it.

The only problem with definitions like that, not that they aren't good I'm sure, but the problem is you can read them and go WAIT, like 4 of those can describe me..... It's kind of like going to the online medical pages and realizing the same symptoms can be anything from a hangnail to a brain tumor.

Then you end up spazzing all day thinking OMG OMG OMG I'm a fucking Sociopath, I have a brain tumor....  and possibly the worst.... OMG OMG OMG a HANGNAIL

:omg:

:lulz:
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Phox on November 11, 2010, 02:58:54 PM
Quote from: Niamh on November 11, 2010, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 11, 2010, 10:14:50 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 11, 2010, 05:53:49 AM
Huh, yeah, I'm gonna go with almost nobody here being a sociopath.

Thank you. I wanted to post this the last time when people were calling eachother "sociopath" simply because somebody didn't act the way they wanted them to and the other replied "I don't care what you think", so maybe we can stop calling eachother "sociopaths" unless they actually are. However, looking at the list of symptoms and diagnosis, I'm pretty sure that an actual sociopath would do something to get themselves banned rather sooner than later.

Antisocial personality disorder
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  (Redirected from Sociopath)


Antisocial personality disorder (adyp or Atu) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual as "...a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood."[1]

Antisocial personality disorder is sometimes known as sociopathic personality disorder. It is also sometimes referred to as psychopathy or sociopathy. Some researchers believe that antisocial personality disorder and psychopathic personality are different conditions.

Signs and symptoms

Characteristics of people with antisocial personality disorder may include:
- Persistent lying or stealing
- Apparent lack of remorse[3] or empathy for others
- Cruelty to animals[4]
- Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper
- A history of childhood conduct disorder
- Recurring difficulties with the law
- Promiscuity
- Tendency to violate the boundaries and rights of others
- Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights
- Inability to tolerate boredom
- Disregard for right and wrong
- Poor or abusive relationships
- Irresponsible work behavior
- Disregard for safety

Diagnosis

DSM

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth edition, DSM IV-TR = 301.7, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines antisocial personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster B) as:[1]
A) There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring for as long as either childhood, or in the case of many who are influenced by environmental factors, around age 15, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
- deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
- impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
- irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
- reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
- consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;
- promiscuity;
- having shallow or seemingly nonexistent feelings.

New evidence points to the fact that children often develop Antisocial Personality Disorder as a cause of their environment, as well as their genetic line. The individual does not need to meet a certain age requirement in order to be diagnosed with this disorder.


Nice post.  And I totally appreciate your point.  Then I completely read it.

The only problem with definitions like that, not that they aren't good I'm sure, but the problem is you can read them and go WAIT, like 4 of those can describe me..... It's kind of like going to the online medical pages and realizing the same symptoms can be anything from a hangnail to a brain tumor.

Then you end up spazzing all day thinking OMG OMG OMG I'm a fucking Sociopath, I have a brain tumor....  and possibly the worst.... OMG OMG OMG a HANGNAIL

:omg:

:lulz:

Internet diagnoses: Making paranoia a household disorder since 1993.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Cain on November 11, 2010, 02:59:00 PM
If you're worried about being a sociopath, then you're not one.

Unless of course you're putting on a show of being concerned about being a sociopath, so everyone else around you will come to that conclusion, in which case you're a very clever little psychopath.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Whatever on November 11, 2010, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: Subetai on November 11, 2010, 02:59:00 PM
If you're worried about being a sociopath, then you're not one.

Unless of course you're putting on a show of being concerned about being a sociopath, so everyone else around you will come to that conclusion, in which case you're a very clever little psychopath.

See now if I understand that should I be scared?
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Disco Pickle on November 11, 2010, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Subetai on November 11, 2010, 02:59:00 PM
If you're worried about being a sociopath, then you're not one.

Unless of course you're putting on a show of being concerned about being a sociopath, so everyone else around you will come to that conclusion, in which case you're a very clever little psychopath.

:lulz:

nice.  very nice.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Cramulus on November 11, 2010, 03:01:53 PM
sociopath is the new pedophile is the new nazi

it's just another word that used to represent something offensive but now its used so broadly and casually it no longer means anything


like when you read somebody on the Internet calling somebody else a nazi --  you don't think "This motherfucker must be all about white power and antisemitism", you think, "ehhh somebody's flipping out about something."
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: AFK on November 11, 2010, 03:03:14 PM
Yeah but you're obviously a socialist sociopath so why should we believe what you fucking say? 
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Phox on November 11, 2010, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 11, 2010, 03:01:53 PM
sociopath is the new pedophile is the new nazi

it's just another word that used to represent something offensive but now its used so broadly and casually it no longer means anything


like when you read somebody on the Internet calling somebody else a nazi --  you don't think "This motherfucker must be all about white power and antisemitism", you think, "ehhh somebody's flipping out about something."

You lie, you damn dirty nazi sociopath!  :argh!:
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: AFK on November 11, 2010, 03:05:39 PM
Get off my punchline you schizophrenic fascist!
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Phox on November 11, 2010, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 11, 2010, 03:05:39 PM
Get off my punchline you schizophrenic fascist!

Communist nymphomaniac!
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Cain on November 11, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
Anyone who can work a quote from Anti-Oedipus and/or A Thousand Plateaus into a pun ITT shall win a small prize.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Triple Zero on November 11, 2010, 04:30:52 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 11, 2010, 03:01:53 PM
sociopath is the new pedophile is the new nazi

MEET THE NEW NAZI IS THE NEW PEDOPHILE, SAME AS THE OLD SOCIOPATH IS THE OLD NAZI.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 11, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
Quote from: Phox on November 11, 2010, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 11, 2010, 03:05:39 PM
Get off my punchline you schizophrenic fascist!

Communist nymphomaniac!

I met one of these last night.

I'm really, really tired this morning. And sore.
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Triple Zero on November 11, 2010, 04:38:27 PM
Nationalsoziopathische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei: Die partei für Spaß und die Arbeit für Freiheit!!!
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: the last yatto on November 12, 2010, 12:59:59 AM
 :hosrie: :hosrie: :hosrie: :hosrie: :hosrie:
Inability to tolerate boredom
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: E.O.T. on November 12, 2010, 01:33:31 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 11, 2010, 05:53:49 AM
Huh, yeah, I'm gonna go with almost nobody here being a sociopath.

THAT'S

          exactly the way a sociopath would view themselves in regards to being a sociopath. just admit it. but no, you can't, can you?
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: The Johnny on November 12, 2010, 02:39:09 AM

"There's no need to fear or hope, but only to look for new weird-puns."
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Salty on November 12, 2010, 06:51:33 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 11, 2010, 04:38:27 PM
Nationalsoziopathische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei: Die partei für Spaß und die Arbeit für Freiheit!!!

:lol:
Title: Re: Vexation is a piece of vermin, and a bit of a sociopath.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 13, 2010, 12:42:37 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on November 12, 2010, 01:33:31 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 11, 2010, 05:53:49 AM
Huh, yeah, I'm gonna go with almost nobody here being a sociopath.

THAT'S

          exactly the way a sociopath would view themselves in regards to being a sociopath. just admit it. but no, you can't, can you?

:crankey:
Title: Re: Retracted.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 13, 2010, 12:43:09 AM
New title is amusing and confusing.